Manatee's Pokemon Large Theme | Game Over

[Milobird]

I mean basically, all I have to do is murder everybody but me and we have a 50% shot at winning the game after we miss twice. I'm assuming we'll miss twice for dramatic effect and also because inexplicably this happens a lot lately.
Except for that one game by that person. Mountainous, pretty fun.

[Milobird]

Once again I was vla

My point has nothing to do with you having been V/LA and more you posting about catching up. When you're kind of not that kind of dragon.
But maybe you are. We'll find out.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Okay, okay, good night.
I'm sad that my mind is spinning now and I'm trying to solve. I liked when I wasn't doing that.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Yo Milo I saw you read my post.

Milobird

Pokemon:

Meditite->Medichan

Move

(Role Flavor)

:

Detect(only???)->???

Role:

2-shot nerfed/ORIGINAL-Motion Detector (also known as a weak-voyeur, not weak-modifier, but literally

weakened

-voyeur; may be getting an official NRG-rebranded-name soon) / Activated Bulletproof->Flavor Cop / Rolecop (depending on target's evolutionary status); checks what someone evolves into and if they’ve evolved/can still.

Actions:

N1, immunity, triggering evolution. N2, targeted Wisdom (result: two evolutions, one neighborizer one follower). N3, targeted Malakittens (result; evolved). N4, targeted STD (result, STD is a 2-evolution pokemon).

N5, ???. N6, ???

Notes:

Obvtown by play, but not conftown.

Milobird where's the N5/N6?

So like, having read my post could you answer this?

So about this. We didn't do anything. Why? I dunno.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Ask Notty, I think he just misread our role PM though, I think he thought we had 3 uses but I interpreted it differently and sent the STD check in. I just deferred to his interpretation. and never read the STD result and didn't notice until now that we got one and I was right, lol.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Also, I was eating a see's candy and my crown fell out.

...Rip.

[Milobird]

My personal opinion and interpretation of the catch up posts is that:

STD was apologizing to his scum team buddies. Because he doesn't really ever do catch ups as actual town.

no math, it was apologizing to my supposed scumteam

Actually I interpreted it as apologizing to the scum team for taking time out and apologizing to the town for not giving them a run for their money. But like, eh.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I didn’t submit because I felt like it was ultimately a waste of time?

And I’m fairly clearly checked out. Mastinas still scum, but y’all kill who you guys want idrc

[Milobird]

Sigh fine.
VOTE: Mastina
-Bell

[Milobird]

why is mastina scum?

Because her role pm says so

Ninja-
Because reading is tech and I blatantly communicated when I did?

[Milobird]

Like you are asking me to explain how I misread something

I skimmed it, got the wrong answer, and proceeded with the wrong answer

Idk what more there is to it?

[Milobird]

Like for fucks sake noones made the case “hurrdurr they had a result that said wisdom was a follower and hammered him to avoid his result”

So don’t come at me with that weak shit y’all are boring as fuck

[Milobird]

I dunno, the best I got rn is that they're doing the mad lecturer blame gamey stuff which is anti-social in nature and seems more geared to get town read than to be productive.
Not that they're not being productive but I'm not sure they'd keep arguing like this if they were town about it and wouldn't just drop it.

[Milobird]

I dunno, the best I got rn is that they're doing the mad lecturer blame gamey stuff which is anti-social in nature and seems more geared to get town read than to be productive.
Not that they're not being productive but I'm not sure they'd keep arguing like this if they were town about it and wouldn't just drop it.

^Bell

[Milobird]

Does it matter, if we were gunna lie about it, why would we do it after all the claims are on the table and it would be extremely easy to just lie and give two more results.

[Milobird]

Because the most obvious person to sheep him just died?

[Milobird]

I'm giving it a college try because I'm a team player and just because I don't agree with Notty doesn't mean I can't make an argument for someone to be town or scum for every player except, you know, the inno ones. I have had condescending scum before that were largely concerned with berating the town from moral outrage.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Reasons suck in general. Almost all cases aren't worth the bytes of data they're made from from a perspective of accuracy.

[Milobird]

but what about it did you skim and see that made you think "this is 3 shot"

Yeah this is veering into the area we can get modkilled sooooooooooooooo

nah

ninja
I dont really care what you think, koba!

Ninja-
Because Ive been disengaged since we had a 7 fucking day N1 and one of the three players I joined this game to play with replaced out from arguing with the other??

[Milobird]

Wait, are you mad Notty.
I suppose I could see why you wouldn't talk to me about that given what I've been dealing with but still,
sorry yo.

-Bell

[Milobird]

no u can paraphrase the wording of your role and which part confused you for us.

i'm really not liking that you seem very desperate to vote outside of std/I

I've literally been strong townreading both of you since day one fuck out of here

[Milobird]

I'm lost as to how you could see my posts as showing desperation.

-Bell

[Milobird]

go argue in ur fucking hydra pt and save thread for thoughts you want with others we dont care and its starting to look performative

Nah, we're good.

[Milobird]

go argue in ur fucking hydra pt and save thread for thoughts you want with others we dont care and its starting to look performative

Koba, you seem mad.
Maybe you should take a break and do something that makes you happy instead for awhile.

[Milobird]

Cool, we're not scum though.
So I guess we didn't fuck up at all.

[Milobird]

Wow, it's almost like I'm good enough at the game to know that and play it correctly as scum?

I literally have zero incentive as scum to go out of my way here from you two lining up like Spoinks to the slaughter.

[Milobird]

*snort*

[Milobird]

I don't care.

[Milobird]

{fferybell, ArcAngel9}
{Titus*, Annie} *I have not done more than skim about the Luke case made about the claim and need to go re-read for content.
{Dunn, Spiff, Uwnd, Pooks}
{Rhea, Dragons}
{Luke*, Manatee} *See above note about Luke's recent content

Let's talk.

Here's mine

Ffery, SF

Annie

, Dunn
Unwnd, AA9, Madea
STD, Manatee, Rhea (Null)
Spiffeh (gtmh scum)
Pooky
Lukewarm

Titus sucks at reading me and I could have thrown this in her face and killed Mala who knows me the best of everyone in this game, nice try though!

ninja-
I demand we kill mastina, because she's scum.

[Milobird]

Tell you what- you kill me, and when I flip green you kill mastina and ignore koba. Anytime Koba says anything about not killing mastina just quote all their posts calling the easiest player on site to read scum.

[Milobird]

Like, for some reason, I literally don't care about Koba's takes this game in large part because his reasons are no better, but he seems to think they are. But the reasoning is just as faulty and full of holes as my own, which I'm happy to state are in fact, full of holes and shoddy reasoning.

I guess he could be trapped scum hoping to take us out and then go back to STD while having a rager throughout the game and be the mad scum I was just talking about.
I mean if we're using the same reasoning here as the reasoning Koba is applying voting us shows that he's not very serious about it being him or STD since it's now Milo or STD.

[Milobird]

Titus is just bad at reading in general.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I have the same issue tbh. Can relate.

-Bell

[Milobird]

titus was townreading u most of the game so if she sucks at reading u thats a bad look (:

It's okay, I'll flip green and Titus will carry out my dirty work.

@Mala, you are tasked with the quote striping.

@Cakeboy- make sure you do this game what you should have done in popcorn.

Go on Koba, get us killed! I'm sure you can do it

[Milobird]

Mastina has us as lock town why wouldnt we bring her late as possible

[Milobird]

That seems like a lot more effort than STD, Koba, Pooky.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Math, the true rebellion is voting mastina with me.

[Milobird]

Like, it doesn't matter or rather it shouldn't really matter to scum us which order ya'll are killed in.

There's a lack of nuance there in your interpretation, it would be better to argue that we're trying to discred Mastina now so we can win the fight later while killing you both first.

Look, I'm arguing better than you and I'm not even scum.

-Bell

[Milobird]

You know when Im scum I just say that I didnt check anyones evolution path N5 N6 instead of bullshit based off of claims on the table

Because thats the big brain strat, along with trying to kill someone lock towning you.

[Milobird]

I'm still not sure if Koba is willing to be a clown to win a scum game and these posts are why I think so.

>.>

-Bell

[Milobird]

Are you the one who stole my ego Koba,
do you have two egos.
Could I have some of it back. I don't want to be depressed all the time.
Please.

[Milobird]

hedging on day 7

scumreading bell

[Milobird]

hedging on day 7

Didn't you just, like five minutes ago make a post about how bad we fucked up

if

we were scum because of our approach.
That's hedging too you know.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Koba, do you know Tenet.
In that game Gyphx was scum.
I was town and Gyphx was not playing very solid.
People's expectations of gyphx scum were so low they thought he couldn't be scum even though he's terrible scum and decent town.
It took the whole scum team to keep him afloat that game and even then he barely survived given the constant, "Is he really, really that bad at being scum, because, this is pretty bad"

I don't really think Gyphx is hard to read. So, I uh. Asked for him to die because he was scum this game again and I didn't want him to get away with living like he did last time.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I can confirm that Pooky would definitely let their partner be bad.
I was a Pooky pal once.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Cause they weren't saying anything of value.
-Bell

[Milobird]

thats not a thought process thats just a description of gypyx being scum in another game


what in *this* game made you think they were scum?

He was flat out useless

ninja-
pooky encourages their partner to be what they want to be

he encouraged me to stunt in bloodstained

[Milobird]

viewtopic.php?t=87795&f=3&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... er_sort=Go

these

[Milobird]

See that's just it.
All of his posts felt worthless to me.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Also quit the angleshooting it's boring as fuck

[Milobird]

Is it angle shooting if he's trying to hit town. All this pressure isn't doing anything because we're town bro. There's pretty much no way for us to miss a step. Because we're not dancing.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Also quit the angleshooting it's boring as fuck

im not angleshooting

"go check your hydra chat"

fuck outta here with that shit

Gypyx was flat tonally and I called it out from fairly early on, and that was like an eternity ago and I'm not going back over it.

ninja-
okay koba whatever you say buddy

[Milobird]

no what posts did you see that you determined needed a vote

you didnt just be like "oh all posts are why i voted"

there was a tipping point somewhere, no?

you should be able to identify it.

The tipping point for me was probably his extravagant first post that didn't do anything, tbh for me. It seemed like a lot of effort to say nothing, like he was trying to blow out steam or sing a rout song to get into the mood to talk and chat before going into a play.

I could say this better with another draft, but too lazy.

-Bell

[Milobird]

But yeah, I'm not very forgiving of Gyphx when he bad posts. Every contentless post he made, just made me want to turbo murder him.

-Bell

[Milobird]

This ties back into the Tenet thing.
Basically I gave him too many chances and let people talk me out of it because he cleared their bar that was on the ground.
It felt bad man. I wasn't gunna let myself do that again.
-Bell

[Milobird]

I'm not sure what to say man, we all get triggered.
Gyphx triggered my trauma by bad posting.
He shouldn't a did that.

[Milobird]

VOTE: std

Hi Mala

ninja
I pretty clearly dont think youre scum

[Milobird]

I'm scum. From a certain point of view.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I'm still waiting for Koba to tell me if their ego could handle looking like a clown to win as scum. Gunna use that tell forever if they're town here.

-Bell

[Milobird]

So are you scum here then

Pedit: heck no. Shit posting makes me happy.

[Milobird]

What was the case on STD again.

-Bell

[Milobird]

You can try to make me eat shit if I’m wrong but I genuinely don’t give a fuck!

[Milobird]

That’s definitely not what I think, and I have a pretty extensive history playing with her. Not the most of the game but I’ve played my fair share. There’s a reason she can’t get away pushing our slot lmao.

Ninja-
Who reads walls nowadays? Unwnd literally changed his playstyle because he realized he didn’t need to write kuzcos poison twenty different ways

[Milobird]

VOTE: STD

Sheeping mala idc

[Milobird]

VOTE: STD

Side note: I forgot my meds today so I slept all day. Wheee
Also, the I haven’t ever done this as scum before argument I’m gunna ignore.

If I wrote I never write about the noble possum when I’m scum it would still be true while, not really being much of an argument.

Yes, yes, I know you’re hyper aware of your own meta. But I’m gunna invalidate it almost out of habit than because of conviction. I swear there’s always one guy that does it when I do it. Guess that’s me this time.

-Bell

[Milobird]

The last of the dragon’s is dead Jim.

We did it.

Now did we win or was all that waffling worth something.

[Milobird]

I’m kidding, wafflin is a national pass time of me and Bell nation.

[Milobird]

The best anime fight is ash vs the dude with the legends in DPPT because he uses his Hoenn Pokémon

[Milobird]

There’s a disturbing lack of taillow in this game

[Milobird]

I wanna push through that the mod error, the mod is talking about is that actually Notty read our role correctly, they weren't supposed to give us a result on STD. We were a two shot. lol.

-Bell

[Milobird]

>.>

<.<

So there are 2 eliminations left.
I'm contractually obligated to try today.
and next day phase I have to try real hard if we miss today. I dislike losing and I dislike losing in elo even more.

And thus. And thus. Everything must be examined.

Koba, Pooky, Mastina has the last scum in it 100% yeah?

-Bell

[Milobird]

K cool, you two kill each other while I go dig through this 200 page game and whine a bit.

@Koba, please give me the scum games you're most proud of.

[Milobird]

Stop spamming and someone talk to me about the night actions on the night nobody died.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Shush Bear.
Everyone knows Winnie the Pooh is the best bear.

[Milobird]

Nono, I mean like, all of the night actions so we can eliminate all the possibilities.

I find it unlikely Pooky was shot at. So eliminate that possibility.

We're left with what.

[Milobird]

Okay, who targeted Til.
Who Jailed Pooky.
What were the abilities?

Anything else that could have interfered with a kill that's known?

[Milobird]

Why am I reading this back and forth instead of being depressed about stuff.
These are prime depressing hours.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Notty we should kill everybody, what do you think

[Milobird]

I do wanna hear out Mastina,
either because they're going to embarrass themselves or show themselves to be ineffectual.
Either works.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I'm not against killing both of you.

[Milobird]

ITT koba swears up and down they r spewed town by themselves

Excuse me, but what's wrong with this tactic.

[Milobird]

I can’t wait for mastinas case to tear apart because she actually thinks she can miselim town notty bell!

Also

*surprised pikachu*

STD flipped town? Who’d have thought

[Milobird]

“Claimed rolecop”

We literally get evolved roles that role is trash.

I /also/ lurk as scum, and I have whatever other half of the posts of the hydra. “But notsci didn’t you recently break your meta” you vastly overestimate how much scum me would be concerned about this playerlist

[Milobird]

Ask Cakez has looked town by play for most of the game lmao.

[Milobird]

@pooks (who can’t be scum with me)

In your professional opinion do you think I’d have the same WIM this game as I did in bloodstained

[Milobird]

Mastina didn’t kill math she killed mala because mala likely goes after mastina for the shit push on me

[Milobird]

I really don’t think it’s koba!

[Milobird]

VOTE: PookyTheMagicalBear

Talked it over.
Wanna kill Pooky and then try tomorrow if there is one.
I'm burnt out.

-Bell.

[Milobird]

That's cool Pooky.
Let's kill you first and then if you're town you can tell us it's Koba from the dead thread and I'll hear you and nod wisely.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Everyone in the PoE please tell me who you’d elim if your top choice is wrong

Something like first I would elim X but if they’re town I would elim Y

I'm not in the POE so I don't have to do this right?

[Milobird]

Why would town you ever post this

-Bell

[Milobird]

This is my first post here today

[Milobird]

This is my first post here today

you're voting for me

you're bad

have fun losing

All I’ve done re this game was ask bell to review you v wisdom

Why are you being so grumpy

[Milobird]

I’m going to go. Maybe I’ll have spoons for this tomorrow.

This game ended up about how I expected it would in signups. Should have listened to my gut.

[Milobird]

Pooky.
Why would town you ever post this.

-Bell

[Milobird]

It's mean.
That's not the bear I know and love.
You must be possessed by a scum spirit.
Let me exorcise it for you.

-Bell

[Milobird]

If Pooky is town, I will do one of two things.

1. Emotionally just instant vote Koba and follow the bear.
2. Try my hardest to get it right like I always do in elo and just read as much as I can and do as much as I can with the time I have available to me. I will try to force Mastina and Koba to cross vote.
Make them case each other and reread the game while doing so.
It's always worked for me. *shrug*

-Bell

[Milobird]

I've never lost an elo as town.
-Bell.

[Milobird]

I'm not willing to vote Pooky today.

What makes his play here different than Mt Dew? This is a genuine question not a leading one.

[Milobird]

Titus, Sircakez is confirmed due to him being visited by someone's role that said he was town. I remember Notty saying it was a neighborizor or something. Regardless, if we lose to that oh well.

But no, this is it yo. Moment of truth.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Pooky and Mastina need to cross vote.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Also, given Pooky's confidence in Mastina, I think we kind of know the answer here.

Pooky was sure I and Mastina were town.
So this is real awkward for him.

Notty wants Mastina,
I want Pooky. But I'm just gunna go read and figure it out.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Notty thinks Mastina's role fits another scum player's role.
Rather it compliments it. He'll have to explain it himself.

I just think narratively, Pooky makes the most sense.
I know he wants to crush the tiring "I don't bus" narrative.
I know he loves telling the petapan story of the time he got vigged by his own partner.
I know he wants an awesome story of that one time he vigged a partner and rode it to scum victory.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I'm a serial solving procrastinator, but Pooky actually isn't really one.
But he tends to be lazier in solving when he's scum.
Which is demonstrably true here.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Notty tells me that Mastina always claims their role day 1.
Or something, or has done it as scum in the past.
Mastina, as a categorical self-examiner, what say you to this maybe half-remembered charge?

-Bell

[Milobird]

I'm not sure how much I should weigh Pooky's drunk posting against him.
He was saying we were gunna lose by not killing koba, but killing him instead when, you know,
we had two eliminations left.

-Bell

[Milobird]

also, Pooky, according to Notty sources, did infact vote his partner recently in a completed game, mountain dew, he voted Dunnstral.

Pooky, your response?

-Bell

[Milobird]

I am going to spam. Until the game solves itself.

Pooky, Titus, Mastina, what do you think of Mastina using self-meta, I.e., they aren't very blame gamey as scum compared to as town mid game. Because they don't want to offend town and get exasperation voted?
Like, how likely is it that scum them makes that argument? It really doesn't feel very implausible to me. I would make similar arguments if I were pushed as scum.

Or at least I think I would. If my scum game didn't suck.

-Bell

[Milobird]

titus, you've played with Mastina and Pooky for centuries.
Which do you think it is? Why?

Sircakez:

....

Sircakez >_>
I dunno what to ask you or say to you.
I don't trust your reads, I don't trust your takes, I don't really know how accurate you are as town or if you really can avoid being fooled from PookyTheMagicalBear. who is, to my knowledge, an excellent pocketer.
-Bell

[Milobird]

I actually don't know why I'm asking Titus for their takes when I don't trust their reads either.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Eh, give me all the takes, I will solve for it.

[Milobird]

And the fact Bell came in here immediately and dropped a metric fuckton of posts when they had been so apathetic for so long rings suspiciously in my mind too
I really dislike them trying to widen the elim pool and add Mastina

-Bell

[Milobird]

You suck at this Sircakez.

-Bell

[Milobird]

It's elo, I don't like to lose. I've never lost in elo.

My motivation is clear as day here.
I have pride and vanity.
I'm a serial procrastinator that often let's games that seem won slip through their fingers until the end when I try again.

This is actually, extremely my speed.

Though I don't think you actually know that.

See death curse for another example of me owning and then basically checking out until the end of the game when I panic solve.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Uh, and no, I directly said what I was gunna do this day phase.
I was gunna get Mastina and Pooky to cross vote each other and then pick.
This is actually my MO for all of ELO games.
Remove yourself from the elim pool.
Make a coin flip.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Also, wasn't Koba like super spamming yesterday. I think you have no idea what reading people means.
Koba was being super shameless for scum them which is actually super townie of them, from a WIM perspective.
As town, I often just miss, sulk for three seconds and then go on and pretend my fuck up never happened.

Though in this case, I haven't really been involved enough with another elim other than Gyphx's to take much ownership of anything relating to reads.
My hands are clean on the Wisdom fuck up.

-Bell

[Milobird]

What?
I got shot.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Please answer my questions instead of just focusing on me being a huge narcissist.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I'm embarrassed enough as it is.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Wait, why are you willing to suspect Pooky, but not Mastina Cakez?

Is it just because of Koba?

-Bell

[Milobird]

But really,
I always lose my shit in elo as town.

This is documented.

-Bell

[Milobird]

vote me coward

It depends on what Notty wants. He kind of hates this game.
If it were me, I would murder you for glory and or hate mail.

But It's not just my show, especially when Notty has actually tried significantly harder than I have this game.
I've been a disappointing hydra partner, to say the least.

*flips off Koba from beyond the grave*

-Bell

[Milobird]

Also, fuck no.
You're cross voting each other Pooky. The end.
Vote Mastina.
Mastina votes you.

The end as far as I'm concerned.

-Bell

[Milobird]

See, that's just it.
Koba's clown town meta should have made him uneliminatable.
But nobody listened to my ironclad case for town Koba.

Also, because of my pedantism, I will point out he was right on SSBM.

and some other stuff that I forgot.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Also, fuck no.
You're cross voting each other Pooky. The end.
Vote Mastina.
Mastina votes you.

The end as far as I'm concerned.

-Bell

rofl make a scum case for mastina

go

Sure. If you cross vote them, I'll make a case for both of you being scum.

-Bell

Or what do you think I'm scum Pooky?

[Milobird]

See, that's just it.
Koba's clown town meta should have made them uneliminatable.
But nobody listened to my ironclad case for town Koba.

Also, because of my pedantism, I will point out they were right on SSBM.

and some other stuff that I forgot.

-Bell

Doot. Apologies.

-Bell

[Milobird]

You're full of shit, lol.
It's common sense that scum do not like putting themselves in the position of hard pushing town miselims one after the other because of that reasoning.

There are some rare players that do, such as Wisdom. But they're the exception, not the rule.

-Bell

[Milobird]

You're experienced enough to know this.

/:

[Milobird]

I notice you aren't saying I'm scum. Only that it's ODD THAT THEY TOWN READ KOBA, MAYBE THEY KNOW SOMETHING WE DON'T YOU GUYS?

Really?

-Bell

[Milobird]

because Koba was right that Pooky's play has been useless all game and I wasn't a big fan of how they posted in the hood last night
but I'm also taking a grain of salt on Koba's reads because they were shit for the second half of the game

ive literally killed more baddies than anyone else

This is deeply dishonest.

-Bell

[Milobird]

If I voted every scum in a game but did nothing to convince others that they were scum, what part, exactly did I play in securing their elimination?
You're fully capable of selling an elimination if you want to.
But I can't remember sale.

Even Mastina had one, even if it was bunk.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Sorry for Ego purposes upon which I must protect.

I will point out that Mastina has been right on (2 or 3 eliminations this game?)

and wrong on STD and I forgot who else.

Chowchow?

I really should have read this game more.

At the very least Mastina had more skin in the game.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I notice you aren't saying I'm scum. Only that it's ODD THAT THEY TOWN READ KOBA, MAYBE THEY KNOW SOMETHING WE DON'T YOU GUYS?

Really?

-Bell

you are scum

I'd vote for you but titus wants noelim

Uh huh.

-Bell

[Milobird]

good talk bell

if you wanted to engage with me, calling me scum when you know my scum game is terrible and I couldn't fool a wet paper bag for more than a minute wasn't going to sell me that my initial impression was wrong.
Mastina at least has a history of having bad reads and making huge misplays.
You don't have that excuse. BOP. >.>

-Bell

[Milobird]

if you're town you're really doing a p shit job of showing it ngl

Nah.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I show my townieness with every post.
I'm obvtown and everyone had me as obvious town pretty much from the get go, which is why I'm still alive since scum had to kill all the confirmed town. I was never getting day eliminated.

-Bell

[Milobird]

You've trapped yourself by calling both of us obvtown this whole game Pooky. It wasn't like you could have known that there would be this many clears.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Just vote Mastina, at least if you die and I fuck up.
You'll have the knowledge that you at least voted scum before you got fucked by all the scrubs playing this game.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I actually don't know why I'm asking Titus for their takes when I don't trust their reads either.

-Bell

Normally I'd hate discrediting conftown but I am off.

I still want scum to make the SirCakez kill.

I mean, I do this every game tho. It's my genuine opinion that your read accuracy is just kinda random. I'm not sure there are a ton of players I actually trust to have above average accuracy tbh, it's not meant to offend.

But I think I've said this before.

Cakez Takez are just kinda ew this game though. They're...I dunno. It's like we read the game totally differently along with people's motivations etc.

-Bell

[Milobird]

why the fuck do u want me to vote mastina if you think im scum

Is...are you for real? I'm town. I don't know who the scum are. I always take like this. I don't even know why you're asking this unless you're being deliberately dense on purpose.

-Bell

[Milobird]

The objectively correct decision is for other players to cross vote and then I choose who the last scum is and do my best.

What's that, it's the same for scum?

Sure is, but I'm town.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Flips the bird.

[Milobird]

rofl

so yesterday you were sure its me

but today you r unsure

ok buddy good joke

If you want me to get mad or something or hope this is going to go how it did with Koba, it's not.
I'm pretty sure if you vote me you're going to die.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Yes, just as planned, I fooled all of you into voting Koba to make you look bad.

-Bell

[Milobird]

My scum game has come a long way.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Which makes us pushing Mastina all the more brilliant.

You'd never see it coming.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I do that every game though, wut.

[Milobird]

Like I enjoy these back and forths, but you know that probably unless something changes I'm just going to bury you in analysis.
I have 7 days off.

[Milobird]

Did you read the last game day or any of our posts in it.

-Bell

[Milobird]

You're demanding I make a Mastina case right this second I assume separate from the last one Notty made and I half-assedly made in a show of reluctant support.

But you know that I'm a slow burner.

[Milobird]

I do that every game though, wut.

which is why its hilarious you claim this is obvtown you lol

But I'm always town and I'm never obvtown when I'm scum.

-Bell

[Milobird]

You're demanding I make a Mastina case right this second I assume separate from the last one Notty made and I half-assedly made in a show of reluctant support.

But you know that I'm a slow burner.

no just give me one reason

you can't even say a thing

They voted us. They haven't been super interactive. They haven't fallen apart which points against it, but I've seen them do better as town so maybe.
If you want me to actually drown you in analysis I have to reread the game though. Something you're trying to distract me from doing. There's no rush.
We have this day phase and the next apparently, since Titus wants to watch Sircakez die just in case a player played against win con.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Did you read the last game day or any of our posts in it.

-Bell

No I don't read the game I just randomly type words and hope they make sense.

Koba was right.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Maybe not about your alignment, but I always suspected.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I prefer dragging on ELOs and just analyzing and analyzing if someone wants to skip it and be dumb though, feel free.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Now, Pooky do you wanna answer/address the questions I asked or the things I said at the beginning of the day phase or are you just gunna back and forth me all day.

[Milobird]

I'm very happy with my assigned Pokemon.

wow im not

Same, I did not get Ralts : (

Pokemon! Gotta catch em all!

Interpretation 1: Trying to fit in, scum. +

Interpretation 2: Relaxed town. ~

I have a dnd sesh, but we have days for me to spam solve so just leave it be and I'll be obvious town in very short order.

As for the 100 versus 200 posts thing.
I'm not entirely sure what you'd like for me to say to that. That's a narrow distinction. I don't really know how long your slump is going to last anyway. Nobody but you does. I'll be making a better case for town/scum you anyway and you're going to have to deal more with that then what I'm saying now anyway.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Please don't post at work.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I for one am shocked back to back killing my strong townreads didnt end the game

[Milobird]

if you're town you're really doing a p shit job of showing it ngl

You've literally been REPEATEDLY saying as has mastina how town bell is lmao

Whichever two of you three are town are outright trolling

[Milobird]

Like yeah I'm in this same boat but at least I have the whole "no time for mafia" excuse

Yall killed two people who were stupidly town because you couldnt pull your heads out of your ass and have decided that instead of thinking who actually has a chance to be scum???

[Milobird]

Also Koba don't think you're off the hook that selfhammer was fucking ass.

[Milobird]

I'm not going to lie I'm going to spend most of the day bitching about the past two tbh.

[Milobird]

I personally think what Mastina is doing is helpful. Even though I have very low expectations.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Why would anyone ever Meta Mastina when Mastina is so familiar with their own meta. It's much faster just to ask them, especially because they don't really lie about the obvious stuff. They'll give you the data.
They might spin it or exaggerate. But they keep most of it honest.

I don't have much issue with them repeatedly trying to win me over with trust tells. It's novel if coming from scum and pretty much fair game as town.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Bell I don't think they care to win us over

[Milobird]

Rather than have a hissy fit about us not getting your alignment shit on the wagons from the past two days its a lot of fun and we all know they flipped green

[Milobird]

look at this heroic pose

[Milobird]

are you trying to get her modkilled by accusing her of trust telling dude

You know I'm not doing this. Mafia is partly a confidence game. I don't have an issue with someone being confident in their own towniness and their awareness of how they behave.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Please don't post at work.

-Bell

Stop saying that I could be scum for bullshit reasons and maybe I'll have less reason to.

This is literally me at my most active.

And scumastina is many things, but active is not among them.

That's been true even before my scum ability tanked. I was closer in levels to my town self, but both in the amount amount and type, I had obvious scumtells.

This is true. I don't know where you got the fuel for this if you're scum this game, given you've been disappointing yourself for about a year(?) now?

-Bell

[Milobird]

That's the thing though,
she usually only gets 50-75 posts in as scum because she's dead by then.

-Bell

[Milobird]

And we do???? There’s no cat/Dunn/any of the rest here I genuinely would not care if I won this scumgame

[Milobird]

But you're still putting words in my mouth.
I'm pretty much immortal in Elo when I'm town once I get going.
I don't know why you didn't just shoot me.
-Bell

[Milobird]

Sorry I see shit going down but I just can't be here right now
Wednesday Wednesday Wednesday

None of this back and forth matters. The only content that has been posted was my 2 quotes of Ralts. You can safely ignore Pooky's shit talking and you don't plan to vote Mastina anyway so it doesn't really matter there. But that's on you if they turn out to be scum and I end up thinking it's them.

-Bell

[Milobird]

That was a reference to my town game and my lack of confidence in my own reads. I actually think I'm terrible as both alignments lol.

I know my scum game is worse. But I don't know. I just thought eventually I would become more accurate or something. But, it hasn't happened. I'm just as accurate as I was as when I started.

-Bell

[Milobird]

That's the thing though,
she usually only gets 50-75 posts in as scum because she's dead by then.

-Bell

ok and it's day 9 and she's still alive so why do you think she's mafia?

What part of, I haven't even gotten started yet don't you get? Who do you think I suspect more, you or Mastina?

[Milobird]

I suspect you more. This has been said from the outset, but I also do my due diligence.
And in the midst of that I spam.

I'm going to drown both of you, just wait in the corner and wait for the puzzle solve.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Do you have amnesia

[Milobird]

Stop wasting my time Pooky. I'm going to go back and read and quote the whole game.

[Milobird]

pokemon games are a scam they just copy paste the same formula over and over with terrible 2010 graphics
thoughrs?

VOTE: SirCakez
Scum claim

can we put early pressure on mastina and see their reaction?

VOTE: mastina

I thought we agreed to policy cakez

I dont understand why we haven't power yeeted dwlee yet.

Firebringer, with me.

They're not posting socks.

They're all talk and no action.

I still think mastina pressure is never bad

Does Mastina even need pressure. They kind of fall apart on their own as scum lately. Though I always feel bad saying that.
But it’s only fair because everyone says that about me.

-Bell

I still think mastina pressure is never bad

Is it really pressure if its just nonsense? Also in my experience pressuring mastina means she will respond to the pressure 2 weeks later when catching up and not acknowledge you continuing to talk to her in real time in the thread. She'll get to that in 2 more weeks.

Sock tease
VOTE: Dwlee99

that would be a town response by Mastina.

So it would be kinda worth it.

-Bell.

I've literally seen scum mastina use that as a tactic multiple times before.

Can’t believe scum would openly claim their alignment like that

-Gamma

They sure aren't doing this, this game. If TSQ is referring to the fact that they just never really respond to people until 2 months later.
But that hasn't really been my experience. They've always been pretty delayed in terms of responsiveness. This is actually an exception. Where they're engaging in real time with me.

So I guess strike one.

-Bell

[Milobird]

VOTE: Firebringer

Leggo

this fb wagon is dumb

I have early townreads on TheStatusQuo and Gamma.

See you all in 20 pages.

I highly doubt scums fake claim are an entire separate Pokémon and not just a new version of actual flavor

This seems to come from an informed perspective.

VOTE: Milobird

this fb wagon is dumb

Why?

seems random

I'm noticing a pattern with ralts. third chime, best chime. third vote, best vote.

-Bell

[Milobird]

I think it’s Pooky because he is the one I struggle to believe outright trolled the game

[Milobird]

Does that count as negging?

[Milobird]

I mean for someone who survived all the way as sole scum I sure did a bad job setting up melo for myself. And then proceeded to decide shitting on the votes I would need is the beat way to win

But yeah, you’ve got me

[Milobird]

Don’t act like you can’t tell us apart bear

I haven’t signed for most of the game

[Milobird]

According to you me/mastina are supposed to cross vote for you and you will murder us easily if we don't.

This is pretty accurate. I'll be surprised if that's not the case.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Pooky's entire game is to get us mad because he's afraid we'll drive this game right past his control. I wouldn't get baited notty.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Just self-vote already Pooky.
If you wanted to live maybe you should've done more than just shoot a buddy and coast.

-Bell

[Milobird]

You've done nothing but troll this day phase and last day phase.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Vote us then, coward.

[Milobird]

Every post you make is designed to bait us into engaging you, but unlike the last time, I see zero desire to sort or think.

-Bell

[Milobird]

You're trying to engage us to survive.
Not to sort or solve.

-Bell

[Milobird]

You're the one trying to pretend you're confused which of me/mastina is the last scum.

I don't need to fake confusion and hydra dissonance to get townread or whatever this performative bullshit you're doing is.

I literally always do this as town.

-Bell

[Milobird]

Uh, no.
I'm going to solve at my own pace across a few days or weeks.

-Bell

[Milobird]

For someone so sure it’s us there’s a surprising lack of a vote

[Milobird]

Is more time going to make you reconsider your lock town mastina read?

[Milobird]

So it’s essentially a senseless platitude to help you buddy conftown

Thought so, always good to double check though.

[Milobird]

They aren’t mutually exclusive?

[Milobird]

Nor is it intended in the personal manner, so OOG I am sorry if it comes across as such.

[Milobird]

You know I already have but you also know my WIM comes purely from who I’m playing into and while we’re homies I don’t have the same passion and fire as I did in bloodstained

But obv we won’t see eye to eye on this so it’s moot