CONTROL - GAME OVER!

[MUSHSHAGANA]

VOTE: Arcade Pals

Scummy to vote me for another game tbh. A game in which you were scum. Curious

I’m not exactly VLA but I’m busy off and on till Tuesday night. Expect phone posting and no wall posts, I’m phone posting now and have a suspicion this will be one of my longest posts this game. Also as stated at the conclusion of last game, I’m trying a new playstyle, I just can’t pull off the scheme juggling since I quit smoking.

Good night for now, and don’t go walking around without your HRAs

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I don't see one goddamned HRA here. Health and Safety is going to scream about this.

Also VOTE: Bell Hello! Hi! It's been a while! Time to tunnel you till I sort you and then, if you're town, borrow your entire brain to solve the game before throwing it two steps short of the finish line, just like old times (i.e. a bit over a year ago)

Nah I'm just kidding, I don't have the energy to tunnel you or anyone. But you can hold my vote for now anyway: it's cold and I need to find my gloves and I don't got anywhere to put the vote so it doesn't get dirty or squished. Thanks

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Well! That was quicker than expected. One read so far.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

VOTE: Ircher

Reason? Not asking what it is, just if you have one.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

VOTE: Ircher

Reason? Not asking what it is, just if you have one.

why did you ask about my vote and not anyone else's vote

I said I have one read

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Oh jeez good call

VOTE: Cephrir

[MUSHSHAGANA]

ah, good, we're going to have ~fun~ this game

Look if you didn't want to get burned down early then you should've used your noggin before you fluffposted, now its too late and that's your problem not mine

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Also Dragons and LLD can be town for now, love to see what someone else sees, hear what someone else hears

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Contrarian take: Cephrir isn't scum

Explanation requested

[MUSHSHAGANA]

ah, good, we're going to have ~fun~ this game

Look if you didn't want to get burned down early then you should've used your noggin before you fluffposted, now its too late and that's your problem not mine

how dare i attempt to have fun. i should be burned at the stake for this heinous crime

Fluff isn't a crime

It's the scum poking out of it

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Contrarian take: Cephrir isn't scum

Explanation requested

He hasn't done anything scummy

Disagree. Hard disagree. I believe you believe that though

[MUSHSHAGANA]

ah, good, we're going to have ~fun~ this game

Look if you didn't want to get burned down early then you should've used your noggin before you fluffposted, now its too late and that's your problem not mine

how dare i attempt to have fun. i should be burned at the stake for this heinous crime

Fluff isn't a crime

It's the scum poking out of it

i'd be interested in seeing you try to explain this without copying LLD's homework

Sure but only because it turns out she wasn't seeing what I saw, whoops

The content of your post reads EXACTLY in theme with a specific part of Control, but its a part that wouldn't be very likely to come up in a green role PM. If you hadn't fluffposted without thinking through the consequences of your actions you might have been fine, but instead you fluffposted in a way that gave the game away, precisely because you didn't know what you were talking about. Sorry bud

[MUSHSHAGANA]

The people demand more Bellposting

PEDIT: hooray

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Ircher why do you think I'm making any claims about Cephrir specifically and not a general statement about anyone in the circumstances Cephrir finds himself in

Also you're next as of around the bottom of page 2 so have fun with this???

Also also the Bellposting is magnificent, the crowd is going wild

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Well sorry to say I never use meta with players I don't have history with, and then only if I fail to read them independently

Ceph and I have never played together, there is no meta being used here

I guess you're still scum. Great job bolstering my early hypothesis

PEDIT: Yeah exactly Ceph looool

[MUSHSHAGANA]

i would still like a more thorough explanation of post 80 mush

if you're right and i'm scum, then i will surely have already relayed what mistake i made to my scumteam, so i don't see what the harm could be in outing your secret flavor read

Its not a secret. Your role PM is like blatantly either Trench or Dylan full stop send tweet

PEDIT: Dragons, buddy, friend, I don't know the dude and I don't use meta literally at all if I don't have personal history with a player, your arguments may be convincing to you but I'm immune to them? Sorry, it's like "ok so that's your history, enjoy that"

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I am neither trench nor dylan

Are you Cephrir though

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Damn there's two (PEDIT: 3) Ceph posts I like now

Keep it up and I might have to, let me check my notes here, update my read of you based on information given (considering it is entirely possible that you have not yet at any point lied, however unlikely that may be). Huh weird you'd think to listen to everyone else that I was just making shit up as I went

Ircher however remains precisely as scummy as from jump

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I'm gonna sit on Ceph for awhile longer, but assuming the trajectory I see continues, I'm on an Ircher wagon in spirit anyway.

Also: there's some headfuckery going on on my end, so if you notice abrupt changes in posting style, that is normal and expected and means everything is working correctly.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I have never seen Mush this scummy ever. Will explain more later.

-nornor

I'm gonna pre-empt it

It's gonna be about me not wallposting, which is just the playstyle change I was talking about from jump

OR

It's gonna be about my change in typing style which is because there's a different fuckin person moving the fingers, gee willikers, we're trying to put different people in charge of the body sometimes over here

OR

It's gonna be both

And in case it's "OH, following other people" I was the first person to scumread Ircher TRY AGAIN LATER LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

One post is concerned? Ok cool, whats that make your ten-to-twenty posts

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Also like, that wasn't even a defense it was literally a question: how can you square your questioning my character with you doing literally the Same But More??? But ok it's just no u whatever i guess LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Oh that

Nah that's just me getting sick of scum Noraa attacking me right out of the gate every single damn time the same damn way

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Mush feels town to me tbh.

Why?

I don't explain town reads. Provides scum with insight into my blindspots and makes my reads worse.

Here is a counter point. You ask this question without providing your own feelings. What is your read on Mush?

I'd like for them to respond to 176 first before answering.

Hi hello welcome have you tried literally reading ahead like 5 posts from the post you're asking about I literally GIVE THE ANSWER what is the point of asking this again LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

How about your fallacious reasoning this game?

Can you provide proof of fallacious reasoning? NOTE: it is not enough to call my reasoning fallacious for this, you must actually show the fallacy

Also scum is as scum does and you are scum so get thee hence

[MUSHSHAGANA]

VOTE: Ircher

Reason? Not asking what it is, just if you have one.

why did you ask about my vote and not anyone else's vote

I said I have one read

*narrator voice* Greeting had not in fact read.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Greeting, buddy, I think you are the only one other than Ircher who doesn't get the first two parts by now, its not like I've been hiding shit this game, I gave up that conniving scheming playstyle after the fiasco of Mtn Dew Mafia. I am an open book come and read me

As for why, I'm gonna save it till you decide to accept what the entire rest of the player list has, purely because it amuses me to watch you get held up on this small simple thing

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I've answered afaik all questions that weren't already answered in thread, almost all of my posting is completely straightforward and (starting with the question to Dragons) 90% serious assuming you read context, I gave an actual reason for scumreading Cephrir and my vote hasn't budged from Cephrir since it got there and there was a pretty concentrated push on that slot that I was part of???? What even is this blatant BS push LOL you're literally just making shit up and throwing it at the wall to see what sticks here this is hilarious

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Like Cephrir asked me questions and got answers so its not even like you can frame it as oh I just answer my townreads, your attack of my slot is totally indefensible fucking gibberish

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Bell: It seems less black and white to me than it does entirely made up out of whole cloth, but I admit I could be missing something since it's aimed in my direction and I know my own actions and motivations as a rule

But the not-answering-questions part is ENTIRELY gibberish

PEDIT: Noraa your first post almost every damn game since Newbie 2028 is to push me as scum LOL what do you expect, if youre predictable I'm gonna predict

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Also god that was a lot of posts I missed the second part sorry Bell

I mostly am having a laugh because it literally just takes a quick scan of my ISO to prove Greeting totally wrong abt my play? I don't necessarily scumread it because it's almost TSTBS you know, the just blatant make shit up and see if anyone piles on, but it DEFINITELY is hilarious

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Oh yeah like I said this isn't a push back, Greeting can be town for now, it's just incredibly funny the absurdity of that push. Like you said not one true statement buddy what are you DOING are you ok

PEDIT: Shit my expectations are nothing Bell LOL I totally changed my entire playstyle this game after last game I played was a trash fire, AND there's a different person up front steering this ship, total playstyle/typing style shifts are gonna get me scumreads, you're good, it isnt just "grr whoever scumreads me is bad" over here

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Yeah, votecount good -- and on that note! LLD I wanna doublecheck on Ceph, cause I reread the ISO and it doesn't smell as bad as I remembered, and its not just effortposting either. Feels legit. Thoughts?

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Makes sense LLD yeah. Cool

I'll hop on Ircher then VOTE: Ircher, esp since that VC doesn't look too far off and it's 11 to exile to the Jukebox islands to suffer through the grind for the worst costume in the game

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Maybe I'm misremembering somehow but I stg you said this exact same thing "Oh no MUSH doesnt look town to me" out of the gate in Mtn Dew. Let me check that my damn memory gonna keep getting me in trouble at least Im not staking anything on it anymore LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Yeah fuck early reads are coming up "Mush town" in Mtn Dew. Fuck can't trust this damn brain for anything, apologies to Noraa

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Just, like, FTR???? If your case doesn't account for Shrike being in the driver's seat your case ain't shit Noraa LOL

Tbh just forget meta and case me on my own merits. Gimme a stand up fight, treat me like you don't know me, let's gooo

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I got a nulltownish thingy on you

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Just, like, FTR???? If your case doesn't account for Shrike being in the driver's seat your case ain't shit Noraa LOL

Tbh just forget meta and case me on my own merits. Gimme a stand up fight, treat me like you don't know me, let's gooo

If it is normal that Shrike is less committal to reads, I can drop that reason. I'm not sure though since my problem mainly stems from tone but perhaps this is just Shrike's normal tone. Did Shrike ever post in Mountain Dew? A couple posts to tone check would be enough I think.

I know I sometimes do just have issues with tone that have nothing to do with alignment so that is possible.

-baby bear

Idk about committal I don't exactly like keep a barometer on that loool but Curse (who you're more familiar with) calls me a "gigantic asshole" and accuses me of "trying to ruin everything" because "I hate everything" LOL so that's a reasonably trustworthy source though I think it's full of shit tbh

And nah this is my first day really off the leash you know, every day I wake up and choose fuckin violence and so forth so I don't get to come out and play much, but today's a new day and I been up front probably 70% of the time so far so

[MUSHSHAGANA]

FIIIIINE Curse can have the wheel for the night, stg can't have shit in this town, peace

[MUSHSHAGANA]

that's fair, maybe it was just random tone pings. i'll have to wait to see what Curse has to say since I think I have a better grasp on their play. very very very tentatively will give you a TL for now so I can think about other things. I still have to read up also since I skimmed so fast up.

-baby bear

Honestly was hoping Shrike could take over for this game some more, they need to socialize and I need to stop freaking out all the time. So I'm just going to put this out there and hope I can go spend my time thinking about other things again for awhile.

I was the one who initiated the Ceph push on this end. I was also the one who scumread Ircher first. Those are my posts, not Shrike's. There's a handful of others too. I don't do all-caps that much, I'm less slangy, I ask direct questions, I'm not clever with my words, my sentences are more complete, I take much longer to post. Shrike's too rude to be fit for man or beast, but I basically stand by and trust every move it's made so far despite that.

Meta WILL fail on me on every single level this game. That's a promise. I'm having to think differently, I'm developing a new playstyle from the ground up, I'm sharing time and brainspace with a foul-mouthed thing named after a bird, and I'm intentionally forcing myself to act different here and there (like not wallposting -- here's your exception, there will not be another) so that I don't slip into old habits that weren't working. You can scumread this, you can townread it -- you can do what you want with it, because I don't care. You're getting it because you asked for it, and it won't happen again.

Shrike and I will be sharing time again from here on out Don't go looking for the Curseposting, there won't be much more to speak of. I'm not signing anything, and whatever input I have is getting a Shrike filter to prevent overthinking to death. Welcome to the new normal.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

looooooooool we're sharing the sensorium HAHA oops

But it's good it doesn't really got like an ego attachment or whatever to being good at the game so all good

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Tbh save the dayvig we can just elim there. Ircher ain't saving that slot LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT

Tbh I wish we didn't quit smoking I'd light up out of SPITE ahahahahahaha

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Glad you could join us loooool

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Yeah I've played with everyone here except roden and Elodie. Unless they're alts too.

You never played with me afaik??? wtf LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Tbh I think Tet's full of it with the whole "I know everyone in the playerlist" thing looooooool

Anyway this has been DISRUPTIVE and I'm in a meeting seeya

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Goddd this game is a cold fucking splash of water in the face after that meeting godddddddd I fuckin hate it here

That's a meme, I'm memeing, shush

OKAY SO TET! Anyway problem is like Ceph said he decided to do that fluffpost shit BEFORE the role PM rwas received. And yeah scum could be lying but the thing is it's unfalsifiable, so I have to accept the POSSIBILITY it MIGHT be true, regardless of alignment, which would make it NAI, or else its potentially fucking game throwing on my part LOL

SO I re-read Ceph later and there's some fucking good posts and the reaction to pressure doesn't look as bad as I remembered, DO I STILL FUCKING PUSH THAT? Cause like, it is UNLIKELY but NOT IMPOSSIBLE (or even implausible!!!) that Ceph stumbled into the one bit of flavor that can only arguably come from antagonists??? And like, if the psoting is town and my mindread slot (LLD) is saying to give space it seems like the right move is to see Ceph catch scum, bus or flame out and get yoten???? If you say I still push that then Idfk guess you suck at mafia buddy lol

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Ircher buddy my argument relied on him being honest abt having no familiarity with the source material and going off of role PM alone because even passing familiarity with the source material would make it obvious this was a bad idea LOOOOOOL

And nah you're not scum for protecting Ceph, you're scum on your own unique and individual and irreplaceable merits don't you worry buddy

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Tet I don't see shit buddy, how bout you explain it to me so I can LOL abt it

mastina Idk what your Deal is with the town/scum "sorting" you're doing BUUUUUUUUT I don't like it can you explain the fuckin reads you're doing please thanks in advance!!! Also what the fuck I trust LLD every game I play with her to date tbh it should be NAI LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Oh yeah also T3 I thought I'd say something abt your push but the fuckin argument is so bad after the back-n-forth I had with Noraa that it doesn't even make sense, try actually reading my fuckin posts lolllll

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Noooo way its bears Ceph Ircher T3 Tet. Haaaa no way. That'd be counter productive, esp when this system's not that fuckin good historically (Death Curse excepted LOL)

So at least some of yall are coming from a town perspective on this argument vs me, and I do not understand it, its utter gibberish (not as bad as what Greeting was comin up with but still wtf LOL)

So like. Explain where the issue is, I laid my argument out for backing off of Ceph step by fuckin step, where's my mistake in it ffs?

[MUSHSHAGANA]

But like its not hard to believe you might have come up with "alien imposter" shit on your own also???? Like a scumslip doesn't have to be fuckin binary it can be on a sliding scale and tbh probably usually IS on a sliding scale just people don't realize they're taking some grey-area shit and treating it as wholly yes/no LOL

And I explained all this shit in my step by step breakdown, like, it ISN'T entirely fuckin binary, there was a chance of you just not fuckin lying, and yet it still is a logical misstep HOW? Explain THAT part

[MUSHSHAGANA]

LOL I can always be wrong, I thought I brought my light bar with me to the new place when I moved on the 1st and I didn't, I thought I got garbage bags on my trip the store today and didn't, I thought I caffeinated and hadn't, I forget my meds every damn day while swearing up and down I haven't missed a dose in days, if it relies on me being right abt something it's a fuckin crapshoot

[MUSHSHAGANA]

T3 got that scum stink for sure yeah

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Yeah I been saying Greeting's town LOL

But Ircher is King of Scum... Look I even dug up a song for the purpose of illustrating Ircher's scumminess:



(ALSO I can't believe I never made this joke before looooooooooooooool)

[MUSHSHAGANA]

ehhh I can see someone saying "bad play=antitown=scum" in their head tbh, and Roden joindate makes that feel more likely even???????

The anti-alignment of LLD and Greeting is fully fabricated tho LOL and REGARDLESS of alignment bro needs to walk that shit back big time like why you gotta make shit up, just say you had a gut read LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

god Dragons is so fuckin town

Roden is so fuckin null, tho. Like can see scumreading but the scum-percentage there is way lower than Ircher IMO, esp with the wagon stalled out where it is on Ircher

Like. Can you explain why's Roden scum and not bad town here LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Like. Can you explain why's Roden scum and not bad town here LOL

i feel like he did

do you need to dunk on every idea anyone presents

Don't think I'm doing that but sure ok loooooool

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Weird how you feel the same way I do on Tet Bell... like "yeah this smells town but I don't trust it" wtf???? is that abt do you think

(I'll weigh in on the Roden thing again when ready don't ask me abt it rn we're watchin tho)

[MUSHSHAGANA]

godddddd I was gonna make time for one serious drunken mafia post on current events but honestly fuck this loooool this is such a little shit fight

Roden fuckin comin out town for this last post tbh (was null prior to this) and the lack of annnnnny response makes me hope everyone else realized it too fucks sake

Let's fuckin just crush T3 or Ircher LOL those two bleed red for sure this tvt shitfight nonsense gonna waste so much energy

Also I really don't like Galron can we have someone wring like any AI content out of that corner THANKS THANK YOU SO MUCH THANKS

Ok good night byeeeeee

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Wow what was I thinking last night. don't drunkpost kids fuckin LOL

RODEN you're a scumfuck and your 1v1s are making pointless noise and I'm starting to see you're the one keeping them fucking going??? Reminding me of like how Noraa n shellyc could control shit as scum by making themselves so loathed people would start to doubt their reads and give em townpasses on acct of it looooool I hate it here omg

Ircher Roden T3 scum lim in there pls lets gooooooooooooo and also Galron isnt paying attention to the game just fuckin namescanning??????? LOL WHAT is UP my dude???? and mastina's fuckin weird -- I think thats town bc there's a handful of cases I agree with instantly even tho I cant explain it, even if rest is like. complete bs

Arcade idfk could be scum wish theyd sign the damn posts LOL could maybe tell better then, don't like bears rn, Tet's weird Idk whats up there, DRAGONS + LLD SO FUCKIN TOWN, Greeting's townnnnnnn I guesssss god I hate it here tho, Norwegian's prob like,not scum? but like the play is so weaaaak atm step it up pls and thx, and can our lurkers fucking POST OMG

But what's weirdddddd is Roden v Cephrir, is this scum theater, like ???? i think this is the scummiest Ceph's been but Roden's so so soooooooooOOOOOOO scum

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I don't think Roden's getting townpasses, honestly. It's more feeling the same than being the same. Hey, unrelated, can you post more? Thanks.

Norw, you might have reads, but you aren't elaborating on them and your reasoning is kind of mystifying as a result. It makes /you/ hard to read. Coasting scum? I don't know, could be.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

loooooooooool I fuckin hate it here so much I make one drunk post in my life and now I'm alllllways drunkposting!! Goddddddd now I just wanna squash T3 out of spite, and I mean I think thats scum anyway so win win am i right LOL

Or ehhhhh maybe it's cause I made curse make one post godddd fuck this so much

Megs made 12 posts, 6 are shitposts 1 is curtailing damage from shitpost and rest are almost information free god damnit I never asked for this LOL I'm taking a break yall

[MUSHSHAGANA]

honestly agreeing with you re: mastina LOL

Like wtf EVEN are people talking abt... I don't like agree wrt the whole "Fourth" thing but Mastina pinpointed the EXACT MOMENT Ircher became scum for me LOL I cant explain shit but I felt it in my fuckin bones with that fucking Bell vote like "OH DAMN Ircher scum huh???"

And like I don't think scum picks up on what's scummy abt it ever. Cause I don't like. Have words abt it, I can't explain it to yall, it's not logickable. I think scum trying to fake like they know what my pg2 shit is abt points to the teasing AFTER the Bell vote, but the Bell vote was the killer for me the joke wasn't shit. That's what is like, shoving mastina into town for me rn, like, thats unfakeable you cant make that shit up

[MUSHSHAGANA]

uhhhhhhhhh are you talking about me Bell????

Cause if you are the difference from past games is cause there's a different person writing the posts LOL same body different mind yknow

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I dont really buy that but i mean who knows.

A townie post was born.
I may or may not be an idiot.

And naaaaaaaaaaaah i think i get what you mean but tbh this framing makes them look scummier than I thought taken as a whole looooooool

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Mash feels fake to me, but I can't tell if it's legit or not.

i feel this - its tone is different and feels exaggerated but i don't know mush particularly well never mind who is fronting/etc so there's a good chance this is just how it is

finally some good fucking pronoun you can be town today idgaf if I'm wrong thank you

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Nowegian saying eveything i want to what the FUCK i hate it here

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Like honest this whole thing is garbage play abt garbage meta and metas shit anyway so wtf.

Gonna throw bears at d3 sortpile cause this is so BAD that like if this is noraa scum you're gamethrowing LOL I can just ignore yall and solve around you and youll trip into limwagoned or youll get your shit together and either way town wins ... like what are yall even fuckin DOING here

[MUSHSHAGANA]

or ehhhhh I spose I can try n read off of Flea but ehhhhhhhhh. feels cheap and have to sieve through so much crap for that LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

There are 6 people voting Ircher based on 21 fucking players. And you’re trying to frame it as if Ircher is either just town being tunneled again. (When i’ve never tunneled Ircher in any prior games because i usually townread them by that point) or do you think scum are pushing the wagon? Ok, how many? 4 out of 6? Isn’t it more strange that this wagon has so little support and counterwagons pop up sll the time? Ircher has never been any serious threat and this wagon hasn’t even been that big. And yet you’re trying to kill it when you have no fucking idea what it is you are talking about. Just stop saying stupid things or i might have to revert my townread just to make sure your stupid ass doesn’t get anymore influence in this game if you’re going to go on like this.

GOD I BEEN SAYING THIS SHIT.

like this is the classic stalled scum wagon LOOOOOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Like hey yall Death Curse folks remember how Noraa and Freds wagons in DC froze up solid at abt scumteam numbers on wagon? Multiple attempts to start counterwagons, off-wagon pushing, etc? Or how about how same fuckin shit happen in Mtn Dew on Dunn and VFT in d1 LOL???

This is caught fuckin scum here Ircher always bleeds red today stg

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Yeah tbh I agree with Ceph on that take... I thought town while drunk cause I was missign the misdirection and shit, and from my perspective theres also like a LOT of just nettlesome minor misrep that's continuing the pattern of back-and-forth shitfight while borrowing shit I was sayin to act like hes a victim in allthis shit loool

Like idk how to describe it but like Roden feels like he phrases shit in innocent lookin ways that piss folks off so he can hold up his hands and be like "Yall getting fuckin upset at me over nothing wtf leave me alone" n play it out like a saint

pedit hey thats my point i cant have SHIT in this town godddd

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Idk abt towntellin or whatever but gotta agree Ceph been putting on a legit good showing and ALSO!!! Using correct PRONOUNS!!! which is like ....no matter what cephs surviving d1 at least i gotta keep what I got LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

T3 feels like attempting to tie himself to bears here tbh which is weird cause theres back-and-forth, but the game shift feels one-sided. ????? Idk

[MUSHSHAGANA]

tbh it looks similar EXCEPT FOR stealing the words of other players for his points whiiiiiiich he did in this game when i called roden v dragons a shitfight he started using that wording to dismiss everyone so like.... ok

[MUSHSHAGANA]

i don't think this is t3 scum but i could be wrong

Lay out the gamestate as /you/ see it for me? I think I see a couple potential points of disconnect which could help us bridge the gap one way or another. Shrike thinks T3's scum, I do too, but I'm less certain and I'm wondering if you're parsing part of the gamestate more clearly than we are, or if you're misinterpreting what we're saying about T3.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I think I need a broader view still Dragons. Like, your personal thoughts on the three major contentious slots (which I'd define as Ceph, Irch, Bears right now) would help me understand how you're parsing T3's content also.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

curse got sucked into discordian leftist theory reading book club which is 80% the same people as discordian ufo cult sorry to Dragons for the wait LOL

Anywayyyyyyyyy CURSE is fuckin donnnneee for tonight but it told me to say its fuckin idk kinda weird you dont get the T3 since you agree so strongly on the rest except bears? (We are nulling the FUCK out of bears rn)

TBH I think youre probbly just movin slow, we got heavy agreement but youre like a half-step behidn the curve from me??? like maybe T3scum read is just laggin bad youll get here idk I'm towning you like by default rn

[MUSHSHAGANA]

These Norwegian posts are THE fuckin good stuff tbh

Norwegian/Dragons/LLD/Cephrir(honorary for pronouns THANKS AGAIN) is my town block rn so
mastina is towny but not enough to gamble the game on, the first 3 in my block are like, if scums in there im so snowed you should just lim me now loooooooool

[MUSHSHAGANA]

curse is insisting i include bell too so EHHHHHHHHHH FINE bell too

[MUSHSHAGANA]

nahhhhh bears this Norwegian shit is townposting at its finest but thanksfor playing loooooooooool

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Yeah I forgot to throw bell in there tho so its incomplete

Personally im not sold on bell but the one with history is so here we go LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

hey noraa how come you havent drawn a green role pm in a single game I been in with you LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

yeah sure noraa cant wait for your red flip looooooooool

tet whats with the mastina thing talk to me here

[MUSHSHAGANA]

hmmm fair enough tet

Noraa I never seen you play town, bt i always see you make wild ass fuckin bonkers reads your hills to die on and here you are arguing obvtown Norwegian's scum what do you want??? like im just gonna go ok sure Noraa rolled scum yet again what else is new LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

god i posted that and thought i should double check

THANKFULLY my memory didnt wreck me this time LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I say lim's in T3 or Roden or Ircher yeahhhhh

Noraa LOL stop memeing pooky aint here loooooool

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I'm saying youre memeing abt limming me and Pooky isn't here to meme with you so its gonna go to waste lolll

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Galron can be town sure ok

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I have meetings every day from tomorrow until Wednesday, when I have a date. As such, starting today, my style will be a bit more "classic MUSHSHAGANA" until Thursday, when it will return to fulltime Shrikeposting.

Shrike will return intermittently, and we'll be blendy in the evenings.

As of this morning, we reached consensus on the gamestate:
Bell/Norw/STD/LLD are never scum here.
Cephrir can coast for a dayphase.
mastina/Galron are playing a town game.
Greeting is more town than not, but it wouldn't be too surprising to see this go red.
We don't like Tet's play but have no specific reason to NOT townread it, and we feel a lot of it has to be AI play, so it's defaulting to nulltown for now. Shrike is a bit more town-ish here than I am.
Everyone not specifically named needs more data.

T3/Roden/Ircher bleed red.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

So you can sound normal and not like you’re rambling every single time you post.

Have you just not paid any attention to Shrike mentioning over and over that we're plural and I, the one usually in charge for Mafia games, am taking an extended break? There was a whole back-and-forth with several people making bad meta-calls because they weren't entirely aware of that.

Because if you didn't pay any attention to that, then I can understand why you would /think/ this but not why you would /post/ it, considering I outlined exactly why I'm posting like "myself" again in the very post you're replying to. And if you did pay attention, then neither half of the think-post equation makes sense.

So. What is the point you think that you're making with this sentence, exactly?

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Things that didn't actually happen. There are one or two players, maximum, who we didn't immediately answer the questions of -- and no more than one question per player, at that.

Oh wait, you're one of them, because you asked a question answered by our play. Well, that explains things somewhat. Perhaps you should cut back on the salt in your diet, though -- high blood pressure isn't good for you.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Prior aimed at Greeting. Agreed that Galron is playing town.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I didn't at first either, Cephrir, but Shrike pointed out 876 and 881 and I had to agree.

PEDIT: Greeting, I'm not as convinced as Shrike is of your towniness, and I do my best work by crushing what I don't understand until it flails or it fails, as appropriate. As it turns out, I win either way. I can make you our new hobby if you want. But why make life hard on yourself when you can just take the townread?

Well, no accounting for taste.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Well, 872 and 881 taken together are what sold me. 872 is funny on its own, 881 makes it serious in hindsight, and that makes it a lot more town-feeling to me.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I guess we're going to be best friends then, Greeting. It'll be so much fun. For me, I mean.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Noraa, I really don't want to engage you here. You're a tiresome player when you latch onto things, and that can be a good trait, but there's a reason I put Shrike in charge. If I could leave it in charge, I would. I don't want to deal with mafia right now. But then again, I don't want to deal with whatever complex Shrike gave Greeting, either, and I don't get to put that one off now that I committed to it...

Some days it feels like I just don't get to have nice things. Ugh. I'm only going to do this once.

Bell is obvtown. Not that I know him incredibly well or anything, but this just feels like honest, unconsidered play in ways most of the playerlist lacks.
Norw is engaging the players outside of who is coming to him first, and actually has something like a progression. This is probably the only town read that we have that's based in logic at all, and it's our weakest of this batch.
STD is just, so fucking town. I'm all-but-literally seeing this dude's brain work in my head. Shrike is too. This is town because if it isn't we're all tapped into the same primordial information well somehow, and STD doesn't strike me as the esoteric eldritch Discordian type.
LLD is everything I just said about STD combined with a history in and out of game of our brains functioning in bizarrely close patterns. I trust that I can read LLD more accurately than I can any other player in this game, which means if I have a read at all, I have to just accept whatever my head tells me about LLD. Right now, that's "all town, all the time".

Got it? Good. I've got cases to build and a deep-clean and organization pass to complete in my room. Leave the pointless shading for Shrike to deal with, I don't want any.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

god even curse cant have shit in this town LOL

except!!!!!!!!!! andante, are you green? is that POE we smell? daaaamn we love to see it

ANYWAY I aint posting shit again tonight and neither is curse cuz its girlfriend said nice things LOL its a bad love song up here seeya

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I had a hugely stressful morning and I don't want to be here right now, so I'm just checking in to ??? about the evaporation of the Ircher wagon. I don't disagree that Meg is scum, but I don't get what's going on really.

I am caught up, but the past two pages are nothing in my brain, just blank spaces. Feels like something happened behind the scenes, too much shifting and not enough reason to that I can see.

Shrike is confident Andante is town. I am not so confident, personally, and am unable to find a reading that brings Andante past null. I suspect Shrike and I will be playing at cross purposes until this is resolved, which is unpleasant.

Also, I have done none of my Greeting homework and have no intentions of catching up today. Too much to do, the game is bouncing off of my brain in its current state, and I feel like hell.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Curse done adulting for the day, its real fuckin gremlin hours here and im gonna stuff myself full fo mac n cheese while i shitpost at yall

Good lord roden youre scummy as fuck LOL tbh i think you exist rn to take heat off ircher, you bein hung out to dry buddy ol pal looooooooool

Anyway rn we got what, roden irch t3??? is that right????? And i dont hate meg-slot for scum which means its prob a miselim tbh feels like compromise vote bullshit what the fuck yall doin

Andante town as fuck out here, ceph town as fuck out here idgaf, tbh i wonder if we can solve by poe like i was jokin after andantes entrance

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Curse done adulting for the day, its real fuckin gremlin hours here and im gonna stuff myself full fo mac n cheese while i shitpost at yall

Good lord roden youre scummy as fuck LOL tbh i think you exist rn to take heat off ircher, you bein hung out to dry buddy ol pal looooooooool

Anyway rn we got what, roden irch t3??? is that right????? And i dont hate meg-slot for scum which means its prob a miselim tbh feels like compromise vote bullshit what the fuck yall doin

Andante town as fuck out here, ceph town as fuck out here idgaf, tbh i wonder if we can solve by poe like i was jokin after andantes entrance

Explain.

godddd this is such a nothing post LOL what the fuck you want explained??? youre so scummy your teams gotta be using you to muddy the waters, theres nothing to explain, it says what it says

anyway looks like curse actually exhausted the body so were headed to sleep soon actually WHOOPS. fuckin hate it here LOL but we're too goddamn tired to do shit godddddddddd

PEDIT: norwegian i think we should push the stalled scum wagon still on principle tbh so im gonna sit on it unless a non-compromise wagon gets closer which tbh look at this game state here LOL its a mess trying to demoralize and muddy shit. way things look im predicting either we push irch thru or we get a mislim tbh

[MUSHSHAGANA]

UNVOTE:

This is town.

Also, I think Shrike and I agree on Andante now. I can see the town play there.

Plus Meg and Irch are unaligned, I think, based on the VC.

I don't want to be here, so I'm going to not be here. Shrike will be back full time on Thursday, in case anyone is worried.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Shrike pointed out folks might ask "Why unaligned?"

I think scum absolutely has to be in that pair, but I don't think they can be scum buddies.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Ehhh. Meg is first on Irch wagon and never moved. Irch is early on Meg wagon. Early VC, sure, but it feels legitimately disqualifying for them BOTH being scum.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

That or my sense of time has completely begun to fail, which isn't out of the question. It's been like a week since gamestart right? Yeah just checked, a week on the dot. So that feels like enough time that I can make judgement calls based on stuff from the first 48 hours of activity.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Nah, we agree on Meg I think. Feels way less scummy than Ircher. But I don't feel like they can both be town, either.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

In fact, Shrike said outright that Meg feels like a compromise wagon pushed by scum as an alternative to Ircher, which I agree with. And that Roden feels like TSTBS to take heat off of Ircher's slot, and I agree there too. And I personally feel like the lengths they're going to to salvage Irch's slot suggest we should really knuckle down on it -- Shrike agrees with that, too.

So I'd prefer to push through the Ircher elimination against the resistance.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I think Irch is still tied for top wagon, so...

[MUSHSHAGANA]

MUSH do you have an opinion on Arcade

Eh... Scummier for low content than the content itself, IMO. I can't tell the heads apart, so I feel like I'm possibly attributing scum motives to small things that signed posts wouldn't get scumreads for.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

hi flea curse wanted to talk to you but it just got done doin serious business shit and handed over the keys so yall get to deal with my ass instead. sorry LOL

gimme your take on cephrir n ircher flea cause i think those are gonna gimme the best grasp of your slot

[MUSHSHAGANA]

huuuuuh ok. hm. huh. welp im thinkin bears might be scum lol

Think like this yeah: flea's usually way weirder than we are reads wise, but i ask n what i gets just. parroting a weak version of our reads on the 2 major slots loooool

Like not the exact same and not a diff balance with the same basic alignments -- just us with volume turned down.... feels like tryna appease me

Btwn that n noraa bein scummy as hell n titus leaning way too hard on the crappiest compromise lim i got nothin good for this slot. goddddddd NORAA YOU NEVER ROLL GREEN WITH ME LOOOOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

hi grendel we never heard of you but you got us with the name n avatar for sure. pocketed. locktown on acct of monster

nah just kiddin LOL put em up



PEDIT: Idk flea the volume thing i was talking abt like ... strong reads??? like metaphor lol. list exaggerates things a bit i feel like which makes it feel closer but still appeasy

Then again lists lookin a bit better to curse but godddd idk. tbh your reads so similar to mine i feel like you gotta be hopin to pocket. like cmon im your top townread???

[MUSHSHAGANA]

RIGHT???????????? nothing is there LOL what an empty fuckin list

curse says "idk we came to the same conclusions didnt we" and i say "excuse me have you ever understood flea?????" like for real faer fuckin with us or its scum o clock on the noraameter looool

[MUSHSHAGANA]

i flubbed the grammar and the pronoun at the same time LOL i did the theyre their thing but with faere n faer listen its LOUD in this noggin and we;re dealing with dinner n planning tomorrow lol

[MUSHSHAGANA]

like ok yeah you aint pocketing us cause it cant be done LOL but i gotta feel like yall are hopin to

Like. Lets grab some material here ok, for like, comparisons sake. You really gonna try n pull this one over on me?

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***Town***
Mush
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STD, LLD, Bell
Ceph
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Others
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Mastina
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T3, Tictac
Ircher
***Scum***

Thats where my reads stand currently. And honestly the Bell read is just because they're in and playing lol
-Pinkie bear flea

Bell/Norw/STD/LLD are never scum here.
Cephrir can coast for a dayphase.
mastina/Galron are playing a town game.
Greeting is more town than not, but it wouldn't be too surprising to see this go red.
We don't like Tet's play but have no specific reason to NOT townread it, and we feel a lot of it has to be AI play, so it's defaulting to nulltown for now. Shrike is a bit more town-ish here than I am.
Everyone not specifically named needs more data.

T3/Roden/Ircher bleed red.

like ok you null a few reads i got and your mastina read's opposite polarity same strength or what fuck ever sure

but like???? come the fuck onnnnnnnn flea yall are translucent rn, I see ur damn dinner ffs LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

yknow what im thinking? im thinkin yall got saddled with a scumteam that got half demolished in the opening pages and now youre tryin not to get flipped early cause when youre out the whole thing comes a tumblin LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

thatd suck for ceph but hell i can throw one tr to the wolves

[MUSHSHAGANA]

whoooooo were yoooou...

LOL t3 replacement

yeah hi scum can u and ur team try to have An Original Idea pls????? thank you

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yeah yeah yeah yeah thats all v clever n all but here's the thing flea

you been busy. and aint been postin much.

so like... maybe you're like exhausted right? "goddddd i just need a break from all this"

and also like, you figure if yall stay alive long enough you can redirect fire, yeah?

[MUSHSHAGANA]

like your teams fucked so yall gotta stay alive long enough you can get back in it

[MUSHSHAGANA]

tbh flea this is like proving my point lol

your reads aint in character for you, even you said so

yeah yall maybe got lowest chance of saving slot but ya got least 2? maybe 3??? people askin after u like either stay outta sight or do what yall can do and since yall got that "I got you" thing, if noraas like "oh god we gettin scumreads ship is sinkin evacuate" idk, seems like youd naturally step in n try right??? like idk im just repeatin ur shit back at u here flea idk what you expect from me LOL

it aint abt natural i know bettern that, its abt the Spark, the Glamour if u will, that you normally got

wheres it? it aint here for sure LOL uninspiredposting only

so yeah. ya scum. gj

[MUSHSHAGANA]

listen if yall come up green ill eat crow in postgame
if yall red.... aint bullying if im right LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

noraa LOL u need to actually read what im writing. try again. amazing how u misinterpreted every word that bothered u

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flea:

it aint abt making context and clues lol. like im explainin a possibility for ur play with ur own words flea. it aint abt like this is what happened its abt like this is some shit that coulda happened, yall can be telling the truth abt all this incidental shit and in the end ya still scum

fair deal on the spark/glamour situation tho. if u can contrive the expression of some of that maybe i revisit this read


noraa:

relax u aint even reading what im writing LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

btw wanna stress i aint talkin effort wrt spark/glamour shit, just, like, if you find it maybe draw extra attention to it LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

noraa ur still not reading what im writing????????

like calm down w this throw shit at me thing lol, its fuckin mafia

[MUSHSHAGANA]

oh shit i think we mighta been fucked up noraa pronouns??? idk when/if we talked abt them instead of to them, fuck our bad there, listen if yall ever see any of us in this fuckin head misgender anybody just call us out idgaf abt alignment its an honest mistake and we wanna correct it

[MUSHSHAGANA]

whats ur thoughts on bears after that reads list dragons

[MUSHSHAGANA]

tbh dragons im like half testing u cause we vibe too hard mentally speaking yknow

but also yeah damn literally my thoughts on bears LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Shrike got shoved out of front by important dating things (I think the girl I'm dating might Get Me on a very deep level...I'm what is known as, technical term, Very Anxious about tomorrow's date) and I don't want to make time for them to post the requested reply, Flea. Sorry.

Fortunately, I can still help. To be clear, it's not the dissonance Shrike (or I) have problems with. It's that Noraa's is the ramshackle mess I expect from scum Noraa and yours is the tidy, well-organized uncontroversial stack of perfectly aligned 8x11 papers with the appropriate date, time, stamp of approval, wax seal and signature affixed to each that I cannot imagine you creating based on my knowledge of you, primarily based on the interactions I've had with you OOG and your Death Curse town play, and thus not appearing to come from you as town.

You don't look like you look when you're town or not playing, Noraa looks EXACTLY like she looks as scum. The apparent "dissonance" is therefore actually a consonance, at a higher level of understanding.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Mush stream of thought posts fell genuine enough that I don't really feel him being scum atp.

Hey, hey, watch the pronouns please. That one in particular's the Bad One We Never Use For Me. Thanks.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

im sneaking in one last message or curse gonna be up all night having me yell abt it LOL

that message

is

grendel whod you replace again? meg? ok so you can maybe be town idk but like what the fuck is with ur reads dude????? try again re: ur fuckin scumreads, like, all of them LOL. like u really gonna need to sell me here idgi



oh yeah and also another message

which is

see yall on thursday morning LOL curse gonna be too busy tomorrow

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Legitimately scary to be scanning through in the early morning and catch Flea calling me by an old nom de guerre. I had to check post history and logs. I'm Curse, by the way (and that's actually my real and legal first name now), but GhostQlyph is an old username of mine, one of a small batch (including CHOLERA!, haloGen, null & void, ALTERANT) that were/are used almost exclusively for trolling purposes.

You're a newer player, Flea? Somehow that blows my mind. Honestly. You do not have the energy at all.

I'm promising myself right now that I'm not going to comment on anything else. I need to pack a day bag and make ready all my stuff, this game is a distraction I don't need right now. If you see me post again just hurl rocks or something.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Dropping in from the girl’s place to say FINALLY THE WAGON MOVES.

We aren’t blending or anything I’m just very excited and excitable right now

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Okay no more posting there’s just an interesting delay goin on

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I’m done for the night with my date, but I have about an hour till I get home. I am putting this here as a note to self to reread from 61 and rip this shit apart when I get back because several hard townreads have dropped drastically in my estimation — I just don’t remember which ones, given I seem to keep getting dust in my eyes (in the good way, it was a really good night).

Also, I’ll make Shrike post something too.

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im gonna do curses rippin shit apart for it cause it dont wanna ruin the good vibes

but also i realized too late gonna need to backtrack further than expected WHOOPS

also anyone who has hit brakes on irch wagon while also openly scumreading it ur fuckin scum goodbye LOL thsi tbh ate a lot of townreads according to curse, we shall see i guess lol

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Shrike fell asleep last night.

Changed reads are:

Norw. SCUM. Off wagon pushing. Votehopping. I was vibes-based townreading you, as was Shrike. Shrike disagrees with this scumread, but I'm pushing it through.
Grendel. TOWN. Norw/Grendel interactions feel legitimately disqualifying for SvS: its too one-sided (Grendel chasing Norw down), it's too intermittent, and it's too weak for anything of value to come of the theater except weakening the positions of both slots. I see where Bell's coming from, but I don't have enough other active slots I can play off of Bell to try to build solutions yet, so I'm going to go with my gut here. Shrike has Grendel at null here, doesn't agree with Bell's take OR mine.
Andante. SCUM. Pushing compromise wagons on lurkslots. Votehopping. Vibes-based scumread as well; everything since our last mention of the slot is disgustingly fake. It reminds me of Noraa being cute-on-purpose as scum, it's too sweet and makes me feel queasy. SCUM.
Val89. NULL. With updated information, this slot feels hard to keep in as lock scum. But I sure do hate it a lot, more than I did earlier when it was T3 even. This is where I would vig rather than lim, if I could vig. Shrike would like to add that this is the bad kind of null, not uncertainty for lack of data, but uncertainty for conflicting data.
Roden. TOWN. As with Val, but then Grendel makes several good arguments for why Roden's town-feeling here too. I feel like Roden and Grendel are always the same alignment, so if Norw goes green I'd kill them both. Shrike has Roden at null and thinks Norw is one thousand percent irrelevant but otherwise fully agrees.
Bears. TOWN. Flea brought out the faebrained antics and chaos shenanigans I was expecting in the first place, and it doesn't feel fake. Given lack of pressure to contribute (no hard-pushes on bear-slot) and faer RL considerations at the time we took the original read on the slot, this feels legit enough to thumbs up.

Shrike will post from here on out, I hope.

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sorry to sya but u aint gettin shit from curse there val LOL

tbh its simple. grendels not postin like a spirited pockety defense of roden or anything, rcoks the boat too much to be under the radar read, grendel gets fuckall out of this townread if hes scum n rodens town, its just like useless-to-detrimental

n the reverse holds true too cause like, roden isnt working to boost this defense or recruit grndel at all, they aint really interacting so its not like rodens thinkin he got a pocket

but then figure the same alignment interactions and damn both of those make lots of sense n like, the t+t world is like ok this is legit townie pov seeing legit townie shit, the s+s world is like ok they backin each other up soft-like so it got time to percolate

sorry for delay im hungry n tired n dehydrated yall this game aint shiiiiiit to me today

[MUSHSHAGANA]

godddddd this thread movn slow-mo i hate it here

gl to titus, we got enough folks we worryin abt with covid

[MUSHSHAGANA]

tbh im prob ready tonight to power through the ircher lim and the only compromise im gonna accept is andante, who i will grind up quite gladly too. so. you know, make of that what u will

p much nothing else is acceptable to me rn so get ready n strap urselves in cuz im gonna take this thread to hell once i get back from grocery run and u cannot change my mind cuz i know what i want and i want this

[MUSHSHAGANA]

OK SO

im back and my trip to the store was MISERABLE

like fuck, what a waste of time

so! im mad

ANDANTE OR IRCHER. pick 1 of them

and remember that andante is my fuckin compromise choice here

[MUSHSHAGANA]

like if u think ur getting someone outside of andante or ircher today SURPRISE UR RIGHT AND U WILL WISH U WERE NOT

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Curse dropping in to say:

In case you were wondering, no, I will not engage with you. Talk to Shrike.

If you, whoever you might be, were talking to me, I would in fact offer Norw's head up as a compromise, but you are not, so I am not.

Shrike and I are prepared to push the wagons of Ircher, Andante, or the first poor bastard who thinks they can defy us to the finish line ourselves.

No, there are no other options. Either you volunteer as the sacrifice or you take one of the two we're giving you.

If you want a case, no you don't. If you think I'm wrong, actually, you're fooling yourself.

I will show up to build a case on someone if I must.

If I must build a case on someone, I will be extraordinarily unhappy, and the results will be pleasant for no one.

Vote Ircher. Thanks.

PEDIT: I am going to let that slide on account of it was before I made this post. Vote Ircher. Thanks.

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gee i dont really care.

also, irchers play is crap, the reads are crap, the scumhunting isnt fuckin there, the wagon fucking keeps stalling despite no apparent resistance right at 5-6 votes, etc...

also ircher is the reason me and STD exited RVS, along with being a heavy scumread for LLD which is enough points of connection that wed push it even if the play was fucking golden and everyone else was screaming townread and they fuckin aint doin that they sayin lhf at best WELL GEE WIZ LETS PLUCK THE FRUIT THEN LOL

like do u have a compelling reason to not vote for ircher? slash is ur role pm red text???

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hold upppppp like... are u seriously blamin me for my headmate scumreading u? LOL? goddddd i fuckin hate it here i cant have SHIT

ur MY townread, thats like the only reason u arent in andante's position. n i dont really wanna fuck with that but like, if u wanna give me no choice good luck and enjoy it i guess? some people just dont know when they got a good thing

[MUSHSHAGANA]

dunns got the issue of like, idfk what was up with arcade. how many posts were dunns idk. how much was dunn draggin ass to get hydra partners opinions idk. like slot was weak but circumstances make me ehhhh abt it??????? ircher got me worked up from jump, got the attention of a slot my brain fully connecting psychic powers with wait sorry whats that oh yeah BOTH slots my brain fully conneting psychic powers with.... like i aint gonna ignore that LOL thats enough distinct eyes from slots who can communicate well enough that its a nobrainer tbh

remember death curse? bell/gloria/somebody else idfk i wasnt around back then workin from tattered memories here

but like lld n std are fully the same shit for me here n now

[MUSHSHAGANA]

n irchers the zdenek/fred slot in case you didnt get it

[MUSHSHAGANA]

omg if yall dont know the game go fuckin learn its bomb as fuck omg

[MUSHSHAGANA]

bell u should vote ircher instead

or else i will b forced to crush u like a small cartoon puppy dog and literally everyone in the game will cry

[MUSHSHAGANA]

yeah i kinda figured that would be the case LOL

well either me or std but yeah like that was the unspoken understanding

[MUSHSHAGANA]

andante youre scum but go vote ircher anyway, ur scummy nature will be seen thru after the beyeetening of ur buddy ircher but like, idk i dont wanna wait, lets just speed this all up pls

[MUSHSHAGANA]

ok cool thats fine we can deal w ur slot tomorrow then, when irch flips red and u look like scum gettin caught tryin to save ur buddy while we were incommunicado LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

nice frivolous shade LOL just come out n say ur gonna try n line up a push on us

irchers it for this dayphase and i will crush u day 2 its that simple

[MUSHSHAGANA]

god i fuckin hate it here. Bears pls keep in mind the deadline. remember what last minute compromise lims lead to every single goddamn time: they lead to green flips! ur not seeing multiple slots trying desperately to deflect away from a slot that plays like total shit????? pls think this thru

[MUSHSHAGANA]

(not meanin total shit comment as like personal attack at irch btw just like dude ur fuckin play doesnt deserve the fuckin ppl diving in front of the bullet ur getting, u barely contributin and when u do its bland as fuck)

[MUSHSHAGANA]

bell get on ircher wagon that shit got momentum what are u talkin abt

[MUSHSHAGANA]

bell get on ircher wagon that shit got momentum what are u talkin abt

Did you agree to be eliminated if Ircher turns out to be town.

yeah i did LOL

[MUSHSHAGANA]

omg titus LLD was distracted by doubts on STD pls read

LLD was part of the early ircher-smashy block w me n STD like... thats 3 players seein the same shit together right, and i dont think were pocketed on my end, so like ???? just fuckin lets crush ircher u can kill me tomorrow if this is green stg

[MUSHSHAGANA]

i made bell that promise i give it now also to u

[MUSHSHAGANA]

also titus is unreadable fuckin player for me normally but based on personally experienced meta (THIS IS WEAK DO NOT LISTEN TO ME U WILL GET HAUNTED BY THE GHOST OF OUR BAD DECISIONS) this is town titus bc its completely fucking ridiculous

[MUSHSHAGANA]

hey fuckin pronouns pls THANK U

[MUSHSHAGANA]

thats the stuff thank u

everybody u will meet in this body uses it and no one uses he so he is always wrong and it is always right

maybe i should make a sig finally godddddd i hate it here

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too bad LOL im pushin ircher and thats the wagon closest to completion

u dont trust LLD i guess. like ??? ok cooooool ill sort her properly after ircher goes down??? what do u want LOL

anyway its not personality LLD has brain-connection w us its fuckin weird not a soulread or wtf ever but like "hey u are literally stealing the thoughts out of my head exactly as i thought them, ok then!", i think id see the scum there LOL

so far i have one doubt and we run 3 strike system in this skull so ??? if LLDs scum we will sort that real quick. but for now kill ircher

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yeah votecount would be nice tbh

[MUSHSHAGANA]

sry bears LOL not this close to the deadline u dont. nope. scum bussing is fine by me im stayin the course

[MUSHSHAGANA]

its just a side effect nothin is wrong relax its only for now



pls remain calm, ur compliance isnt optional

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ok cool like i guess im v happy for u n all, pls enjoy w/e it is ur enjoyin

but theres a wagon we can get and its 1 i want so like ??? why the fuck try n compromise for some wagon i hate w nobody on it. im takin ircher out n if thats green yall can burn me at the stake or w/e it is yall do to ppl who misyeet some poor bastard in the last hrs of d1 w no hope of findin a diff target that doesnt smell like compromise on town slot

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i count max 9 votes on ircher so i think thats e-2? but i think its prob less like 9 is an absolute maximum

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oh yeah btw just bc i think it could be useful

if anyone tries to puppeteer my carcass should i eat a nightkill yall need to know the only authorized medium for me on d2 is STD

accept no phony magicians

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lolllll yall really think it aint ircher today. u are wrong. i got a chain of 1v1s im gonna build yall better rethink n sheep while u can

when ircher flips red yall gonna look so garbage

also ircher is prob scum pr just from wagon resistance alone i mean LOOK AT THIS SHIT if its just weak town ircher gets fuckin clobbered in the opening 48 hrs

i fuckin LOL at suggestion d1 dont play out like this w desperate garbage counterwagons no one wants if irchers red. to the scumbucket with u all

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toog is gonna deserve extra close lookin at imo

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...

well WHOOPS im a dumbass. sorry folks false alarm everyone im officially the all-new MS dipshit dingus over here LOL


anywaaaaaaay thatll b e-1

IRCHER where are u n do u have any LAST WORDS to share w the class (other than admission of red role pm)

cuz it aint lookin good for u rn LOL

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tbh i would just like to remind yall of a couple things
1: scum can bus
2: VCA can give lots of data given we have like exactly 1 central wagon all game long and a half dozen counter wagons getting to a significant range at various points
3: i have a solid core townblock n i think more people have at least a handful of megastrong townreads by now
4: at least 1 person literally fully mind-read me abt ircher BEFORE I EVEN POINTED MY FINGER AT THE POST I HATED
5: worst case we're like, out 1 day n got TONS of AI info from p much every non-lurk slot

like u worry too much tbh??? if u doubt me let me have this one single time so u can point at it when u tell me why u will never trust my judgement

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actually im just gonna fuckin say it

this loud hesitancy shit reminds me of noraa on titus+dgb when it was curses turn w the scroll

"IM NOT SCUM WHEN THIS FLIPS OK CUZ LIKE IM ON WAGON
but like we should kill someone else IDK i dont think this is scum!!!!!!"

like cool ur jets we will get to u in good time we got a whole reread of lld slot to do even

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last post talkin abt Death Curse ofc fuckin lol

[MUSHSHAGANA]

(psssst its a good one)

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i would wait for claim just cuz everyone who is all like "NO" will be like "I TOLD U SO" otherwise

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not that i think it goes green but theyll do that shit pre flip LOL

death curse vibes in this player list

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ok so like this is getting into oh god i dont wanna do this territory, i have the patience of an angry train running downhill i do not want to educate u here

the sig is curse bein clever, bc. like. the hydra mechanism is our brain LOL. its joke. facts time: fact is we are two ppl in one physical body. u can think of this like "multiple personalities" if u want. ur wrong if ur brain goes immediately to horror movies n scary psycho killers n shit but w/e i dont wanna waste time on explainin it better n like. u will be close enough for govt work as the saying goes

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??????? what are u even talking abt. are u sure u know what u are doin here? like may i suggest u stop ur fingers wigglin and reread what u just said, pls? truly, sir, i implore u to shut up.

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like its truly impressive that u managed to not only find a slur against plurals on short notice but that u also managed to misgender everyone involved in the process. recordbreakingly thoughtless behavior. stunning work by our hero, bravo, well done

[MUSHSHAGANA]

11 to kill, u were vote number 10, toog was already on wagon

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syryana's popcorn n death curse get stuffed in the same locker

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NORAA I’m phone posting for u here the answer is NO ALSO I should be asleep I said “I will look at game 1 time before bed” and I see u aiming for some bs

Stop rolefishin Noraa and last time I will say to y’all in that hydra NO we crushin irch lol

(Also catboi I am ok and u should get catchup time for sure all I ask is pls do ur best to keep Noraa from tryin to derail this lim while I am sleeping so I can go to the store early tomorrow THANKS)

Pedit Yeah god catboi u weren’t kidding abt towning it up here pls enjoy it

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U were talking investigatives u silly bear

No we don’t even suggest they even exist ok we just like destroy irch that’s it that’s all GOOD NIGHT

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oh ffs fine ircher lives another day i guess VOTE: Andante

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@mod pls doublecheck tictic i believe u may have mistaken count there

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roden aint shit compared to andante tbh find town in that iso i dare u

[MUSHSHAGANA]

rodens ehhhhhh i think roden/grendel are same alignment n i waffle back n forth on both slots when i think abt it

what do u see that makes it firmly scum play tet

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noraa pls u keep lookin like u are trying to setup miseliminations and that isnt even fuckin possible in this case like somehow u still manage it ???? idgi. like chill buddy u are making ur slot look scum LOL

PEDIT NORAA those votes are from ppl who havent even logged on today LOL CHILL

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also galron voted tictac last pls read the votecounts one time noraa

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tbh noraa like the only reason im considering u maybe town is bc flea... and bc ur so absurdly scummy this game LOL

like we always go "huuuh maybe u town" w ur slot aside from our noob game w u and we always get fuckin wrong answer. here were just like "goddddddd noraa scum noraa scum" and its like so ur town right? cuz ur townie as fuck when u are scum, and here ur scumfuck, so ??? town??? does this make sense

i hate it a lot tho

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also fwiw tictac is middle of pack in my scumreads andante way scummier 2 me

also i might force curse to readslist cuz i get feeling we are way out of touch w each other but thoughts fuckin wiggly so its hard to tell

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Okay, reads list it is.

Ircher - I still hate this slot. If it's confirmable, great, who cares what I think.
The Three Bears (Titus, Flea the Magician, Noraa) - Town. Blatant town. Moonlogic Titus, chaos Flea and Noraa actually looking like scum for once says this hydra is town.
Cephrir - I hate your play but I think you're town.
Save The Dragons - TOWN.
catboi - TOWN.

Mastina - Nothing to work with, formerly a townread.
Malakittens - Nothing to work with.
TheWayItEnds - Garbage ISO, nothing to work with.

Dunnstral - Willing to give Dunn coast time. Not reminding me of Popcorn or Mtn Dew.
Tet - Null. Unreadable. Could be anything at all.
Galron - I hate it, but I have to null it.
Grendel - Forced down by Roden's play. I still think this is a definite alignment.
Roden - Townreading this until recently. This player is trying to slip out of the spotlight and I don't like it.
NorwegianboyEE - I'd call this scum, except the numbers are weird. I'll save this one for later.
tictac - As with Norw, but more-so.

Lady Lambdadelta - LLD, where are you? Can you show up for me? Like I reread your ISO and I'm unimpressed. You have access control to our brain, so I think I was giving you more of a pass than you deserved.

Andante - Agreed with Shrike. Scum.
Val89 - SCUM.
Toogeloo - SCUMMMMMMMMM.
Bell - Bell is scum. Full stop. And I am biased towards townreading this dude, so think about that.

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Damn. Looking that over feels terrible. Full disclosure: my reads are shit because I'm too busy thinking about the girl I'm dating to care much about the game. Don't read too hard into my reads, trust Shrike's judgement, this is its game.

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ehhh. its fuckin weird for that to b friendly neighbor but not completely outlandish

also that char could be scum technically, u see her w and without hiss possession, so like, tells us not a lot

honestly i think theres no valuable flavor in this game cuz even protagonist technically has an evil version, + lots of off screen chars u can grab for town purposes, like breaking flavor might b main chars are scum LOL


also @ toog like what do u get out of telling my headmate its reads are shit when it just got done sayin that without ur help and it isnt even really paying attention anymore. like is there any reason for u to do this except sheer jerkass behavior.

like do u want to be the meat for today cuz u bother me anyway, ur scum to curse, n it might be easier to line up an elimination on u, so like, if u want to be an asshole we can oblige u???

or u can be like minimally polite instead of talkin shit for literally no reason at all thanks

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I would expect typical pattern for a theme game is that mafia are given safe claims, would expect the game to not be breakable on flavor but wanted to check to see if the flavor passes the smell test

tbh my thing w control is thinkin it over u could get away with not even givin safe claims if u picked ur characters right. like helen is both a char of medium importance as a regular badass lady and final boss of the first dlc. u can legit just give one claim there, whos to say what version u mean