LOST (Game Over)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

we are down to 5 people without readlists:

Dancing Puppets (Nancy Drew 39 and Titus)
Malakittens
MalcolmTucker
Enchant
Dwlee99

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Rn, CSF, Pooky, Dunn, Luke, Bell, Taly OtH , Galron in no particular order are all pretty strong tls for me.

are these all your TLs/TRs?

I'll color these in green for you,

just give me the list of people you find scummy and everyone else is null and we're gucci

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

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yoink

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I'm one away from usurping the throne

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Read my iso I think I’ve made it pretty clear who I’m not currently feeling great about.

ok the whole point of this excercise is so I don't have to read your iso to figure out who you are not feeling great about, just give me their names plz <3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sure who do i use my red marker on for u

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it's fine to not have any confident SRs

you can always add/change your reads later

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Spoiler: Readlists So Far

Highlights so far:

BBT is the most susp'd person - 14 scumreads 0 townreads.
Lukewarm is the most townread person - 19 townreads 0 scumreads.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sounds like a skill issue

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Spoiler: Updated Chart So Far

So Far:

Top Townreads:

Lukewarm - 19 TRs
Rad - 17 TRs
Dunn - 16 TRs - 2 SRs
CSF - 14 TRs
Pooky - 14 TRs


Top Scumreads:

BBT - 12 SRs - 2 TRs
Toad - 11 SRs - 1 TR
Ceph - 8 SRs - 2 TRs


No Consensus:

Bell - 12 TRs - 7 SRs
OTH - 12 TRs - 5 SRs


Mostly Null:

D-Lee 3 TR 2 SR 17 Nulls
Bella 5 TR 1 SR 16 Nulls
C+G 5 TR 2 SR 15 Nulls

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I know Luke said the roles might be divorced from alignment but can you imagine a more worthless role than a scum player that can talk with the dead?

viewtopic.php?p=13054811#p13054811

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I know Luke said the roles might be divorced from alignment but can you imagine a more worthless role than a scum player that can talk with the dead?

viewtopic.php?p=13054811#p13054811

504. Point not found.

that's a scum role that can talk with the dead.

also another flavor point

Spoiler: Lost Spoilers in Here don't click if you don't want to see show spoilers

The Main Bad Guy in Lost(The Smoke Monster) can manifest as dead people. https://lostpedia.fandom.com/wiki/The_Man_in_Black

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Spoiler: Readlists So Far

Highlights so far:

BBT is the most susp'd person - 14 scumreads 0 townreads.
Lukewarm is the most townread person - 19 townreads 0 scumreads.

Does this mean that your gonna try to kill me now pooky?

Luke's seen this movie b4 huh

I guess I am fine letting the nightkills sort you out

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm ngl the person i'm most interested in rn is toad

cuz he feels pretty under the radar for having 11 SRs and no1 TRing him

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viewtopic.php?f=54&t=86947&user_select%5B%5D=35197

I dare anyone to tell me this isn’t town!Marci.

this isn't town marci

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

copycat

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Bell's been traumatized too many times by scum!me :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

klick might be more polarized then bell ngl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky, I was looking at your chart, and you have mine wrong.

I specifically wanted the "I have not retained any thoughts about this slot" people red

ok i'll fix it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Just going to point out that Pooky appears to be using his own spreadsheet, as there was 1 difference between his 883 reads post and what ended up in sheet reveal 1827 - Roden goes from null to town (with 24 Roden posts between these 2 Pooky posts, which is the majority of Roden's ISO)

And 1 more difference between 1827 and 1901 - Dancing Puppets goes from null to town (with 18 DP posts between these 2 Pooky posts)

So either town!Pooky is using the spreadsheet or scum!Pooky has planted this for someone to notice (Hello!). Pooky doesn't even mention the change in reads for Roden and DP, he just updates his chart and continues trying to gather more chart data (unless I missed it in the ISO skim, correct me if I'm wrong).

This is about the pace that my reads are changing as well, so while 2 seems kinda low maybe?.. it resonates with me at least.

I'm going with a strong town read on this, giving me 2 strong town reads now

uh I obviously update my reads as they change in my spreadsheet but I don't like post every read change lol

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I'm pretty sure I'm not allowed to upload it to google docs and share it cuz we're not allowed to like communicate by outside means but it's not that hard to make a spreadsheet lol. I believe in the collective try-hard nerdiness of our team

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VOTE: Toad

be the change you want to see in the world T-Bone

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Is this a read or just a spreadsheet comment?

this is me poking fun at Bell/Klick at the same time because I am efficient with my trolling

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Ceph will get going whenever he gets going

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky before we get near a real flip, I think you should share your doc editing rights with someone you can trust, so we can keep up that spreadsheet in case you're targeted. Cause damn it's so good.

VOTE: Toad

be the change you want to see in the world T-Bone

Oof I'm tempted, but following CSF?

dw this cat will lead us to victory. We might have to take a few detours and U-turns, but we'll get there

I will legit be sad if CSF is somehow scum here[she's not]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Peng is town for 1341 alone

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Brevity is the soul of wit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ngl but mathblade looks kinda scummy so far on entrance cuz he doesnt have 180 posts by now rofl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

drunk mala spitting fire takes about lost shipments

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

His like Penguin is also frequent miselimbait.

don't like this - before my break i was actually very hard to lim as town.

Steph Curry level assist here

Penguin Locktown

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stole my PURRfect page top

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Why is penguin posting more when V/LA than when they weren't V/LA.

do you want him to post less rofl

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pagetopping with a pagetop scoreboard and taking the lead from the Mod at the same time

my mission in life is complete I can die happy now

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

4 8 15 16 23 42

These numbers seem to be coming up a lot in VCs.

I did a Google search and these numbers seem important to Lost.

Any suggestions Lost nerds?

they're the player numbers for the scum team, the mod put them in the first post as an easter egg

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4 8 15 16 23 42

These numbers seem to be coming up a lot in VCs.

I did a Google search and these numbers seem important to Lost.

Any suggestions Lost nerds?

they're the player numbers for the scum team, the mod put them in the first post as an easter egg

Unlikely. OP says 5 mafia.

obviously 42 is not one of the numbers since we have 26 players

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

not until you notice my subsecond pagetop steal

You can't steal from me; we are of one soul.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Enchant/Dwlee/Mala were the last three

did they fill out the sheet yet

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

pooky! look at these timestamps:

sick moves best bird

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Bro

I was kidding about talking to the dead

Lmafo

I’m just unhappy I’m not Juliet

Also I have given some reads.

SO YOUR ATTITUDE CAN TAKE A HIKE OK

YOU TAKE A HIKE. I HOPE YOU ENJOY IT.

ROFLMAO

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm too lazy to differentiate TRUE pagetops

from the doubleposted ones

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tho I guess I could do it if I was a true tryhard

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

that would be some degenerate shit tho spending more time on pagetop scoring than actually solving the game but I am bad with priorities

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tho I guess I could do it if I was a true tryhard

Pooky is it possible for bird to have this godawful a read on me and still be town here?

it is in fact possible for town players to think you are not town

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that would be some degenerate shit tho spending more time on pagetop scoring than actually solving the game but I am bad with priorities

It would, I don't even know what you've done besides pagetop scoring and pretty squares making. It's been so long since we've seen the second I forgot that I forgot I removed you from my lim list for it.

I know right

it's my super sekrit strategy so when I win after murdering you all I will have a really cool timelapse spreadsheet of how I did it.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I look forward to the amv

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm always down for yeeting Corwin

dude was scummy af when he was here

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

tho I guess I could do it if I was a true tryhard

Pooky is it possible for bird to have this godawful a read on me and still be town here?

it is in fact possible for town players to think you are not town

He is clearly ignoring my posts and twisting everything I’m saying. If he was town here, he wouldn’t be blatantly ignoring them.

if he was scum he wouldn't attack you cuz attacking you is like trying to invade Okinawa with bayonets during WW2.

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Did he read this post? Obviously not, he’s ignoring very clear evidence that I’m town here.

ok I don't know if you know this but.

Players cannot provide "clear evidence" that they are town because if they

could

they would simply

do it when they are mafia too

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

2741 lamist

she lamists a lot as town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm always down for yeeting Corwin

dude was scummy af when he was here

Do you think it makes sense that scum!Math wouldn’t know NM wasn’t actually a player in this game?

what does knowing nm is not in the game have to do with alignment

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: Mathblade

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I wanted something new and exciting. You may as well have trotted out BBT, Frogster, or Ceph again!

everyone needs their moment in the sun let's not deny mathblade the pleasure

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

So, I think I will need her reasoning for the town read more then just her saying that she has it tbh.

Oh okay, for some reason I thought Titus was good at reading MathBlade. Maybe it was the other way around or maybe my brain just made it up :S

she is not good at reading mathblade rofl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this game is lit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm writing a cool fanfic in my head about 5 hoods each with one scum on it

do it in thread or scumclaim

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I’m Sun. You can figure it out from there. If you can’t I’ll consult with my inner voice to me more explicit.

My opinion on the Hydra posting restriction, is that if it is real he is likely in a neighborhood with Sun.

That would give the slot an outlet to talk as much as they waty, and a way to keep communicating after they have run out of words (Jin getting Sun to "translate" for him). We also know that there is at least 2 claimed neighborhoods at this point. Could be with Toog, or could be a 3rd hood.

Can you like back off please if you’re town?

It’s hard enough trying to read everything and relay the hood properly and catch up.

If you think I am scum push me tomorrow or the next day

It’s really destructive and unfun to push me right now.

I was really hoping you’d see what I was saying if you’re town and why I scumread you.

I should not have had to claim here.

I'm off for bed.

I not sure why you responded to that post in particular, because that had nothing to do with your alignment and everything to do with me bragging about predicting your role existing like 1,500 posts ago.

Also not sure why the claim came now anyways. I've managed to rally what, 3 total votes against you? Lol

But regardless, I'm off for the night

Because you’re the main focus

I can’t hyperpost like I used to and have work in the AM.

There is a high likelihood you just spam the thread then I die and Jin can’t talk.

So I brought it up with DNA and asked.

do you have a read on the DNA hydra

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I think they’re town. They could have easily lied and said their restriction applied in the hood too.

They’ve been posting some good questions I relayed to the thread

I would love them to be engaged more but I can understand it being hard to engage when you can’t post in thread.

it would make absolutely 0 sense for them to claim their post restriction applies in the hood too

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Why not? Anything goes in a bastard game. DNA seems pretty Townie. I know no one else can see it but I think they’re town.

can you explain how you got to this townread of them?

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Why not? Anything goes in a bastard game. DNA seems pretty Townie. I know no one else can see it but I think they’re town.

can you explain how you got to this townread of them?

It’s more they have had spicy reads and been open and communicative. I have played with both heads before and one of the heads (imho) tends not to effort. I kinda don’t want to share their spicy reads without permission but I don’t see scum saying some things.

I don't understand why you think you can't share their spicy reads like wtf?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: best bird

I’ve decided that bird has shown 0 interest in correctly trying to parse me and his interactions with my slot look fake to me in retrospect.

It’s seriously scummy how he was dismissing all of my arguments and constantly twisting what I said. Town!Penguin would have already realized I was town by now.

do you keep track of how often your omgus scumreads are actually correct

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it's more like i recently played a town game with him where he was certifiably insane, so i was sus at the start because there was a complete shift, but now he's at least returned to being erratic. it could be an intentional change after he was suspected for this reason tho

i guess i could look into whether he actually makes more sense as scum

I've watched him play scum

he made very little sense

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it's more like i recently played a town game with him where he was certifiably insane, so i was sus at the start because there was a complete shift, but now he's at least returned to being erratic. it could be an intentional change after he was suspected for this reason tho

i guess i could look into whether he actually makes more sense as scum

I've watched him play scum

he made very little sense

Well shit

i mean he didnt make sense when i've watched him play town either

this is entirely new territory we're dealing with

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@pooky, are we meant to be updating our readlist periodically as a whole?

you should always be updating your readlist as the game goes on and you can always catch me online to make changes if you want

i'm not like online 24 hours a day but you can usually find me at some point and make me update your readlist :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol

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RCE looks p townie

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i would like to flip mathblade dude is probly not town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

This is because in general Math is town more than they are scum.
Like literally everybody else.

But unlike everyone else, his posting is good, he's on his best behavior and lock scum voted him to keep the wagon going. If Math and Nancy wouldn't kill me for faking masons with Math, I would. I will die on that hill.

Be back soon.

~Titus

you don't have the best track record for reading your brother correctly lol

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my main hangups with mathblade are:

(1) Corwin was a scummy scum fuck when he was playing

(2) Mathblade doesn't feel very enthusiastic and dude is like a dog with a bone when he reps in as town.

(3) when asked for why he townread C+G in the hood, I don't think his reasoning was very compelling or strong and felt more like TMI.

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when I say compelling I mean "compelling to

him

"

like a reason that I think he really believes in

when I asked him why C+G was townread in hood, he didn't really seem enthusiastic about anything.

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2) Math has been helping me with real life stuff I can't talk about. Just being a supportive brother.

mathblade is a really good guy and I'm sure he's a good brother and I don't think that has anything to do with the role pm he received in this game.

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he doesnt have to be online 16 hours a day posting 500 times for me to get the feeling that he really believes in something

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ive literally never seen a large theme game where scum do not have daytalk

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

respond to what ge?

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i think jf/math r scum

no opinion on dwlee

rad is maybe a townlean atp i dunno.

bella probly town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you should look at mathblade

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i think jf/math r scum

no opinion on dwlee

rad is maybe a townlean atp i dunno.

bella probly town

Thoughts on Klick?

Klick is obvtown

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

my main hangups with mathblade are:

(1) Corwin was a scummy scum fuck when he was playing

(2) Mathblade doesn't feel very enthusiastic and dude is like a dog with a bone when he reps in as town.

(3) when asked for why he townread C+G in the hood, I don't think his reasoning was very compelling or strong and felt more like TMI.

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i think jf/math r scum

no opinion on dwlee

rad is maybe a townlean atp i dunno.

bella probly town

Thoughts on Klick?

Klick is obvtown

More words please

Klick's scumgame is terrible and I would be shocked if he was somehow scum here

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

1) That’s not explained. That’s I am scum because I am scum.

here is corwin's iso in a completed town game:

viewtopic.php?t=89555&f=2&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... er_sort=Go


you can compare it to his iso in this game yourself

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2) Again I literally just had a game where I defended all three scum. So I started slow to get my feet wet and trying to figure out communication with Ircher/RCE and figure out a way to fo it while reading 100s of pages. So I didn’t have a bone. Because I haven’t found one

I don't see why being wrong in the past will make you lack confidence now.

it's never stopped you before!

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3) That’s actually a reason. I already answered it and no one agreed with you.

I don't really care if no1 agrees with me tbh

if someone presents a really good case for why you're town, i'll listen to that

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ok there's a difference between being wrong and no longer having opinions dude

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like 80% of the read has nothing to do with you

I was always going to scumread whoever rep'd into the slot unless they towntold extremely hard cuz Corwin was scummy af

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like 80% of the read has nothing to do with you

I was always going to scumread whoever rep'd into the slot unless they towntold extremely hard cuz Corwin was scummy af

Then you should be able to explain that read

But you haven’t.

uh yea i have

i linked the iso

town!corwin is like a bull in a china shop

he was barely present this game

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like 80% of the read has nothing to do with you

I was always going to scumread whoever rep'd into the slot unless they towntold extremely hard cuz Corwin was scummy af

Then you should be able to explain that read

But you haven’t.

uh yea i have

i linked the iso

town!corwin is like a bull in a china shop

he was barely present this game

Again already explained that

Having to play for two people is hard AF

Next

bruh he wasn't even playing for one person

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

there's no way to prove anything dude

if this was a court of law we would never lose

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So pooky is scum is then.

I am very much leaning that way

I don’t like how he up and ghosted.

I also know that pushing on him is a good way for people to never listen to me.

what ghost r u talking about

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

If something is scummy on post 200 you don’t wait until post 2000 to vote it if you believed it initially scummy.

Corwin was literally on my first scum list here : 883

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I asked you to case Corwin and you complained it’s hard or refused rather than try it.

this is a completed corwin towngame:

viewtopic.php?t=89555&f=2&st=0&sk=t&sd= ... er_sort=Go


he is much more involved and doesn't care about pissing people off and is invested in his own beliefs etc.

in this game he's not really around, came up with excuses for inactivity and when he was around didn't feel like he was like the above linked town game.

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like 80% of the read has nothing to do with you

I was always going to scumread whoever rep'd into the slot unless they towntold extremely hard cuz Corwin was scummy af

Then you should be able to explain that read

But you haven’t.

uh yea i have

i linked the iso

town!corwin is like a bull in a china shop

he was barely present this game

Again already explained that

Having to play for two people is hard AF

Next

this response doesn't even make sense to me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

"having to play for two people is hard af"

is um not an excuse

and corwin did not play for C+G

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

From what I gather Corwin did piss people off. So if I take your point at face value it’s wrong

I have another 75 pages ish I am behind on

ok then open up corwin's iso and show me where he pissed people off in this game then

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok i'll unvote and let you catch up if you want to catch up dude

UNVOTE:

i still think you're mafia

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

@Corwin

Not true, Luke and I both TR Mala slot. You can find the exact point I decided to rule out the Mala slot for D1 in my iso.

You want to help me out with that, because your mentions of mala in your iso go from "I have played scum with scum!Mala and town with scum!Mala and I admit their start seems a little different in this game." in 482, to town binning her for pooky's spreadsheet at 1260, to not mentioning her again a single time (at least by name) until just now.

This is possibly a contrived attempt at pretend-solving, I specifically decided to town bin Mala around the time I posted 482. That was my main motivation for sharing that comment in 482. Mala isn't mentioned again because I had no new takes on the slot. That's not difficult to understand. If you're town and this isn't pretend-solving, then stop shading my slot for no reason.

Holy shit dude, you made a read ~52 pages ago based on the start of the game, FoSed every other inactive player, and never looked twice at your very early read even given the "content" of her posts. And you don't think that's giving that slot a pass?

Start here Pooky

that's response to aggression in a reflexive way.

corwin in the linked game is aggro af on his own and attacking multiple slots.

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i get limmed d1 all the time i dunno what math is talking about :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

viewtopic.php?p=13310810#p13310810

here is one example

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Find how many games Pooky is elimmed D1 as any alignment.

Bet it’s damn near close to 0.

GnG Upick
D&C
Menagerie
Epilogue


There are some I don't remember probably but I do get elimmed d1 lots of times !

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

those r just the games I remember

and those are just day one..

I get eliminated on other days too!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also 2020->2022 is like 2 years

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I'm just refuting your point about me being unelimmable as any alignment therefore it's toxic narrative because that seems like

(1) not very useful for finding scum

(2) actually kind of toxic to say about someone

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

20 Years? I think that just broke my brain.

Join date 2003 it’s 2022

19 years rounded to 20

I didn't play any games from 2011 - 2020

I don't remember any of the games I played prior to 2020 because they happened over 10 years ago

I am only just going off top of my head games that happened from 2020 - 2022, which is like 2 years of time.

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also anything you say about popularity literally has nothing to do with my alignment so it's weird that this is the tack you're going with :/

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you could hunt for scum and make a case for someone being scum?

complaining about me being never elimmed is um.. not useful for anything?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok who do you think is scum and what's the case again?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... _Detection

Read it and weep "Math"Blade

can you give us a summary i ain't reading a research paper

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It does

Pooky says someone is scum

That’s it

They’re the elim

uh what

that's not true

I am not the leader of this island yet!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i alrdy unvoted you so you can go read

just go read?

like you're not magically going to get run up and ded just cuz u stopped posting for a few hours

this game is moving at a glacial pace

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i highly doubt you will be eliminated if you stop posting for a day dude

just chill its cool

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

alright i'll spend the next 30 minutes updating the spreadsheet - I'm kind of lazy ngl.

here's where it's at right now:



give me your updates.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I guess I can just fill them in as yellow so we get the right effect

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

looks a bit better

lemme know if there's any read changes I missed pls!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

is DCE supposed to be RCE?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

looks a bit better

lemme know if there's any read changes I missed pls!

But i townread Enchant!

Why it's white.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this is where we're at now.

if you have more read changes i'll do an update session tomm :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what changes do I need to add to yours

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Klick's scumgame is terrible and I would be shocked if he was somehow scum here

Rude. I'd love to prove you wrong at some point

sorry my bad

feel free to be scum and crush me this game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Ceph is red for you right now

making him a yellow would be giving him townpoints

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

assuming optimal play is a bit of a stretch but it doesn't mean dunn is scum

i kind of doubt scum will openly doubt a true mason claim in a 26p

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Like guys, it's maybe obvious "Lie", but think from other way.


Why yoloclaim Mason... In flipless game. It's literally asking for problems.

scum can claim mason to avoid being elimmed but generally speaking we trust mason claims because i think thats just what people do on this site

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I just kind of think we leave this stuff up to nightkills for at least a few days? I dunno whats the point in yeeting this early.

as for the partner I'm assuming since its flipless that Roden + Partner have done some kind of elaborate crumbing towards each other that is very hard to detect from the outside but can be easily unlocked if needed for a claim if push comes to shove.

if they haven't I think they should.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

What is the advantage to having a second mason claim after Roden dies, and not before?

so the scum can't shoot both of the masons on n1 n2?

i mean if we dont care and we just want to throw those deaths away I guess fine?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i alrdy claimed mr eko how can i be bernard too >.>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i alrdy claimed mr eko like in my first post what even is this theory rofl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

...why would mafia not want to cast doubt on someone who could be confirmed town??

I have literally never seen a mafia shade a mason claim on d1 like ever.

at least not in my memory

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Oi, somebody give me a rationale why we're hunting for or trying to kill a mason claim D1 that isn't completely insane?

Dunn doesn't believe the mason claim for reasons he's stated in the thread and he's willing to burn 2 mason slots if its a true claim.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its funny because if LLD had claimed mason dunn would be hiding in a cave somewhere hehehehehe

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its a joke ^_^

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Wait, hold on. Roles are not revealed upon death so it's surely +EV for scum to NOT have the Mason claim? If it's a fake claim, and only one of them claim, then they get a ride off of it. If it's fake, two scum would have to claim Mason to make it viable, no?

What is the downside to Mason claiming if it's true?

a lot of players seem to be struggling with this concept:

masons being dead isn't good

they should easily be able to construct an unassailable crumb. like, spell out their name with the last letter of the second word in each post multiple times, or something

By the same token, if Roden is lying then scum being alive is also very much not good.

yes, but i don't think he's likely to be lying. rose and bernard are exactly the best mason claim possible by flavor, too

they r not the best mason claim

i wouldve made them lost masons who have to find each other

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

best mason flavor claim probly jin/sun

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

bbt can u stop complaining about the page number

its not like every page is required reading

i havent read like half the pages since page 100

just play the game. you not gonna get quizzed at the end on every little thing that happens.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you not gonna get quizzed at the end on every little thing that happens.

Wait, what the hell have I been studying for?

arent u the designated town leader or something

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

bell is too much of a wuss to shade people as scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

bell is too much of a wuss to shade people as scum

I’ll do it next time I roll scum. Just for you.

my kill rate on scumbags who try to come at me is absurd

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

shocking

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I still think doubting the mason claim is townie and Dunn is town for doing it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yoink

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Even with the benefit of the doubt, why is it ever a good idea to doubt cast a D1 claim especially when it confers conftown?

No, I don't see town motive here.

he didn't believe the claim

i think scum usually believe town when town claims mason

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i've literally never seen a mafia get masons to claim on d1

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

tho i guess i've never seen town do it either

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

pooktavius are you capable of corralling this unruly town into a vote that makes sense

im kind of concerned by the lack of anything you are doing

?

I tried to kill mathblade just yesterday

he said he needed time to reread and catch up or w./e

im giving him that time to do it

i still want to yeet him

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

did i say mathblade alrdy

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

dont read 100 + pages then

just read however much u want and pick an elim lets goooooo

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also p sure ur not auto nightkilled cuz theres probly at least one protective in a large theme

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky, do you think I am easily pocketed?

~Titus

I don't know you well enough to know if you are easy to pocket.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think mafia usually do not call for a mason to claim because mafia possess a sense of self preservation but if everyone wants to murder Dunnstral, I won't veto it because I do not have a great track record of reading Dunnstral correctly.

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is there anyone other than mathblade that u want dead at this point?

I dislike compromising because compromises tend to land on townies that I'm misreading as wolves.

If people have a really strong case against someone I will read it.

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What stops mafia from doing something scummy and then saying "I wouldn't do that as mafia though"

I don't think it's outside of anyone's scum range to play aggressively and appear to have no self-preservation

I don't think Dunn's reason for thinking my claim was fake comes from a town mindset either

Nothing prevents them. I just usually see scum back off when the pushed player claims mason so I don't expect the person pushing it to be a scum player.

I rarely see scum push to reveal partner as well and then also have such a complex thought about how the unique flip mechanics make it so that it's optimal to claim[I'm not sure that it is or not but I can see Dunnstral believing it is]

I would be extremely surprised to see Dunnstral flip scum but I would also be happy because killing bad people makes me happy.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I know you’re wrong and I have demolished every reason you put up.

does anyone here other than mathblade think he "demolished" every reason I put up?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

he could've done an extremely complicated crumb that only someone with the key could unlock but it borders on cryptography

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also it's already done - there's no use arguing over spilt milk.

if you guys really want to kill Dunnstral you need to convince a bunch of people to vote for him.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Post 44 in our ISOs say SOS across 3 lines. It's some show reference Roden knew

this is lit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Discussion was:
Me: I want to be Rose instead of Bernard
Roden: okay
Roden: let's make a complicated crumb <plan here>
Me: wow cool crumb let's do it
Me: wow game move fast
Roden: true but you're townie you're fine
Me: oh you had to claim should I claim now
Roden: some kind of response
Me: okay I'll claim cause everyone says I have to even though I don't want to

Is it antitown to share that plan? To demonstrate you had it?

im curious as to why this is important to you, i can't see how it matters but perhaps you have a reason

mathblade is hard at work "sorting" the claimed mason pair because he has to pretend he's doing something

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Discussion was:
Me: I want to be Rose instead of Bernard
Roden: okay
Roden: let's make a complicated crumb <plan here>
Me: wow cool crumb let's do it
Me: wow game move fast
Roden: true but you're townie you're fine
Me: oh you had to claim should I claim now
Roden: some kind of response
Me: okay I'll claim cause everyone says I have to even though I don't want to

Is it antitown to share that plan? To demonstrate you had it?

im curious as to why this is important to you, i can't see how it matters but perhaps you have a reason

mathblade is hard at work "sorting" the claimed mason pair because he has to pretend he's doing something

right that is why i asked

bro you literally asking a bank robber why they're looting a vault

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Maybe I'll just read Math's ISO

Nevermind he already has over 200 posts...

it's a quick skim, wouldn't take more than 10 minutes imo

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Regardless of Math’s alignment.
Pooky’s still town for me.
Like their push on Math regardless doesn’t feel like any scum agenda but rather town pushing someone because they believe them to be wolf.

Pooky is capable of pushing people as scum

very true

but math is scum

just read his iso dwlee

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky not pushing the hell out of frog is the suspicious part. They have in their ISO that frog is obviously scum and then it disappears (cause distancing?)

the only scumgame i've seen frog play is infernal affairs and he doesn't look like that

granted he also doesnt look like his town games so it's kind of whack

i feel more confident on mathblade

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like 80% of the read has nothing to do with you

I was always going to scumread whoever rep'd into the slot unless they towntold extremely hard cuz Corwin was scummy af

Then you should be able to explain that read

But you haven’t.

uh yea i have

i linked the iso

town!corwin is like a bull in a china shop

he was barely present this game

Again already explained that

Having to play for two people is hard AF

Next

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

someone other than mathblade explain to me how this mathblade response makes any sense

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

someone other than mathblade

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like I recognize that I can be like a dog with a bone and incredibly stubborn

but these mathblade responses to me make 0 sense

and I'd rather not be in a spamoff with him

so if you understand wtf he's talking about

pls do me a favor and explain to me wtf he's talking about

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

someone other than mathblade explain to me how this mathblade response makes any sense

He saying that he’s playing for him and his previous slot owner and is struggling or something.

no he was saying corwin was playing for his slot and C+G at the same time and that's why corwin had no takes and not aggressive

which is ??? to me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

did i say mathblade alrdy

I forgot since I already did it (I TR Math)

~GE

w i l d ok

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

did i say mathblade alrdy

Do you think Ceph is town?

I think I have him as "Hated Godfather" and never updated the read because he's so charming and handsome

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yoink

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mathblade can't share C+G's reads until C+G gives him consent

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you know since we don't get role reveals or flavor reveals

it could be that mathblade/c+g r just scum together and not necesarily even jin+sun or neighbors at all

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

can u post C+G's reasoning for their reads?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

u

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oooh same second

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The above post really confuses me

Nancy thinks that someone being suspicious of her slot is equvelant to someone believing in QAnon Conspiracy theories, which is something that I think is pretty offensive ngl.

this feels extremely presumptuous

~GE

<3 <3 <3

I’m getting really fed up with continually being lectured to and picked on by Luke. This is like the third time now and it isn’t okay.

I’m not just going to say nothing when people are misrepping me, twisting my words, cherry picking things out of context and otherwise saying undulterated gatbage about me.

These are also all decent examples of saying that without including things that have real world damaging connotations like qanon.

Instead of continuing to scold me which is just further pissing me off, you could actually provide examples.

qanon is the example...

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

mb CSF told Dunn in the scum PT and Dunn slipped :O

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

but I'm not in Luke's hood. I'm not in any hood ^__^

this cat is trying to escape!

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Pooks and TBone, you cool with a Dunn launch? If not, why not?

i dont think dunn is scum because i dont think scum challenge masons openly on d1 like the way he did

I would not veto his launch because i've been wrong about him in the past.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

By appearing informed?

That wasn't really my intent at the time, anyone can guess at who Luke's neighbor is.

Oh wait YOUR his neighbour?

....

no

I am Luke's father

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

CSF is Luke's mother

we divorced eleven years ago but somehow ended up on the same flight over the pacific

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

a bullet in the head?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Spoiler: Latest Pagetop Scoreboard

It's actually surprising how many pagetops johnny has for how little he's actually done

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am totally not pointing things out just to eliminate my competition so I can maintain my throne

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky what's BB at in the Readslist

I haven't updated since last night

what do people want to change?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

just repost ill do them now

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Professional Mason Hunter

anyway I changed the 2 mason columns to green for everyone

@me if you want to scumread them or w/e

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Frogster would've nailed those scum if they weren't secretly masons

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok done updating for tonight ^_^

I'll review Taly tomm

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I gave up on reading every post in the thread like 100 pages ago

if people want to change their readlists they can @me with a full changelist

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Frogs isn't town

VOTE: Frogs

we neeed a flip

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You let frogs coast for a week before MathBlade was even here

i felt bad !

he said he was on his meds and shit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't see why I'm being blamed for not leading the town on a righteous frog hunt when I wasn't even appointed town leader lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

When I get nightkilled please remember what I'm saying about pooky

<3 it's ok D-lee you will figure out how to read me eventually


in this life or the next

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I've read you correctly every game we have played recently I think. Except for tunnelling Menalque but I still came around

you're not reading me correctly now!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky letting you coast isn't the same as you coasting

I don't understand how the sole responsibility of executing people was placed onto me.

If I had a dayvig gun I would've shot frog already lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

r u talking about frog

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Frog is bleeding obvtown

how many completed games have you played with Frogster!Town and which one of them is like this one?

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are you open to reading his play in games where I've seen him be very much townier than he is here