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RCE, does your read on Dwlee change if I inform you the slot has still done nothing 100 pages later?Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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With 5/26 slots scum it seems more likely than usual that scum don't come under much pressure D1 and the conflict is mostly TvT. I think with social loafing etc. most scum are likely chillin. That's why I think Roden+Dwlee+Taly.
I think it's reasonable to expect 1 or 2 scum are more in the heat of things, but I'm not really sure how much I can add to that discussion.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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I'm sorry, there's more to it than the activity levels.In post 3409, Frogsterking wrote:Spoiler:
@Malcolm
With 5/26 slots scum it seems more likely than usual that scum don't come under much pressure D1 and the conflict is mostly TvT. I think with social loafing etc. most scum are likely chillin. That's why I think Roden+Dwlee+Taly.
I think it's reasonable to expect 1 or 2 scum are more in the heat of things, but I'm not really sure how much I can add to that discussion.
None of the players I think are Town are willing to defend those three slots either (so far.)
So I think Roden+Dwlee+Taly due to PoE as well as activity.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Implying that you think his iso looks town?In post 3421, Off The Hook wrote:So I haven’t done the FULL ISO but I want to let out that my standards for BBT are kinda low since in my exp he’s kinda…bad as town?
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Hell yeah dude. Do you mind looking at many of my SRs, Roden + Dwlee + Taly?In post 3426, Off The Hook wrote:I read the remainder of BBT’s ISO and I don’t agree with anyone who SRs there rn. He’s a bit lazy and reactive but imo that’s not definite signs of scum particularly for him.
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Nooooo my towncoreBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Huh who are you?In post 3461, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Not a whole lot but it’s the most confident I got.
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It looks like they're paranoid of each other and bickering like a pair of star crossed TowniesIn post 3466, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
Yo can you elaborate on this?In post 3444, Frogsterking wrote:Bell v TBone I think is TvTBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Replacements are more likely overall to be scum. I think context is important though. In this context I think players on a scum team who fall behind in a large game are more likely to replace out due to guilt of letting the team down.In post 3518, MathBlade wrote:
Why?In post 3515, Frogsterking wrote:Yup Math is town.
Also, I feel like one of the replacements is probably scum
So I see there have been several rep-outs already and I'm thinking that the rep-out pool is a better place to hunt than the entire player list.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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It's not fundamentally wrong dude, you are uninformed. These people at stanford used this very website as a corpus and showed that replace outs are more likely to be scum. You can find the corpus yourself online easily.In post 3535, MathBlade wrote:
Except this is fundamentally wrong.In post 3531, Frogsterking wrote:
Replacements are more likely overall to be scum. I think context is important though. In this context I think players on a scum team who fall behind in a large game are more likely to replace out due to guilt of letting the team down.In post 3518, MathBlade wrote:
Why?In post 3515, Frogsterking wrote:Yup Math is town.
Also, I feel like one of the replacements is probably scum
So I see there have been several rep-outs already and I'm thinking that the rep-out pool is a better place to hunt than the entire player list.
Replace outs are indicative of a player not playing/wanting to play/busy/RL/bans or millions of reasons.
Some games have replace outs from all town because town is losing or lack of cooperation or unfun.
This game is insanely large and we (from where I have caught up to) haven’t had a single wagon all fucking game except Cephrir and maybe one other person. That’s demoralizingBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Come on guys we've only got 12 hours to reach 24 votes on Math and make their dream come trueBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Ofc they replaced out for RL reasons, I'm saying if they were town they may feel more comfortable popping in every now and then.
Can you elaborate on the Taly townread? You're the first one I've heard say this.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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My experience with Town!Math has been that they tunnel me irrationally when we are both Town. I appreciate your attempt to communicate with them but I'm not optimistic about the results.In post 3780, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Math are you a meta guy? 984 - I think Frogster is town, and around the time I posted that is when the Frogster wagon stalled (some ppl also TR'd him for the meds comment)Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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While we're on the topic, do you feel Taly has posted anything AI, TBone?In post 3786, T-Bone wrote:
This is an icky line of questioning. Let Toog rest in peace. Taly is here now and has basically played that slot's entire game.In post 3779, Frogsterking wrote:Ofc they replaced out for RL reasons, I'm saying if they were town they may feel more comfortable popping in every now and then.
Can you elaborate on the Taly townread? You're the first one I've heard say this.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Okay. You're more suspicious of the Roden slot though if I recall correctly?In post 3788, Dancing Puppets wrote:
They just sound like they do in every game I’ve played with them as town here, plus I vibe with many of their reads. I think Galron/Drap is very likely town for example. I also think Johnny’s probably also town but that’s weaker.In post 3779, Frogsterking wrote:Ofc they replaced out for RL reasons, I'm saying if they were town they may feel more comfortable popping in every now and then.
Can you elaborate on the Taly townread? You're the first one I've heard say this.
I haven’t played too many games with scum!Taly but nothing they’ve done so far in this game has remotely pinged me.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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VOTE: Roden
I've heard at least one of my townreads say Town!Roden is usually easy to see and they aren't feeling that from them this game.
If no one is going to fight on Roden's behalf then this may be a good direction for today.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Bella is probably the best person to ask about whether Klick is playing his scum game here.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Probably not, I would be annoyed at Math in the scum PT for their play here if we were both wolves.In post 3804, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
You can both be wolves though?In post 3747, Frogsterking wrote:This is Town!Math because of the irrational insistence that I'm scum.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Professor Drapion is trying to fill in the granade throwing void I've been leaving behind.In post 3809, ProfessorDrapion wrote:In post 3779, Frogsterking wrote:Ofc they replaced out for RL reasons, I'm saying if they were town they may feel more comfortable popping in every now and then.
Can you elaborate on the Taly townread? You're the first one I've heard say this.
Ah here we go with this replacement trash can talk again.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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AlrightIn post 3803, T-Bone wrote:They are a weird slot, but not a need to deal with today slot for me.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Lmao just do it now this game is still young, and don't make the same mistake again
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What's my tone?In post 3819, Dancing Puppets wrote:
I read it as nai but I keep getting townpings from his tone.In post 3806, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
This is Wolf.In post 3768, Frogsterking wrote:Come on guys we've only got 12 hours to reach 24 votes on Math and make their dream come true
VOTE: FrogsterkingBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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3813 I can sheep with the exception I think Math posts have been AI alreadyBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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AyyyIn post 3837, T-Bone wrote:
croakyIn post 3834, Frogsterking wrote:
What's my tone?In post 3819, Dancing Puppets wrote:
I read it as nai but I keep getting townpings from his tone.In post 3806, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
This is Wolf.In post 3768, Frogsterking wrote:Come on guys we've only got 12 hours to reach 24 votes on Math and make their dream come true
VOTE: FrogsterkingBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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I mean I'll eat my words over the Taly slot but Roden + Dwlee still lack defenders.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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1419 I thought might be town indicative for Roden, for what it's worth.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Uhh my reads are out of date but I'm about to fall asleep.In post 3869, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:alright i'll spend the next 30 minutes updating the spreadsheet - I'm kind of lazy ngl.
here's where it's at right now:
give me your updates.
Puppets is Town now, Corwin is town, BBT town, move Dwlee down to scumBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Can we wagon Roden then? As much as I dislike Johnny's play this game, I think Roden is a better chance of a scum flip.In post 3864, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
I feel like Roden's concerns with you in 1419 were never satisfactorily resolved, unless 1505 alone resolved it all? It's not like you started caring about his scumread on youIn post 3850, Frogsterking wrote:1419 I thought might be town indicative for Roden, for what it's worth.
1002 feels like scum pretending to be nuanced. He thinks Dancing Puppets are town, but then why mention them acting weirdlyBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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VOTE: Roden
I can't remember if I'm voting them. This is the best BW option for D1 until I hear some convincing reasons otherwise.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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In post 3871, Frogsterking wrote:
Uhh my reads are out of date but I'm about to fall asleep.In post 3869, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:alright i'll spend the next 30 minutes updating the spreadsheet - I'm kind of lazy ngl.
here's where it's at right now:
give me your updates.
Puppets is Town now, Corwin is town, BBT town, move Dwlee down to scum
Bella -> TownIn post 3889, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
looks a bit better
lemme know if there's any read changes I missed pls!Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Bella can you elaborate on your Klick read, can you tell if this is Klick's scum game yet or will you need more time to tell?Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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I'm not caught up beyond here but it sounds like one of these five is going to be the Mason claim (if one exists.)In post 4079, Dunnstral wrote:Dwlee99, T-Bone, Malakittens, Best Bird
Listed as "Null" or "TBD" in Roden's read list in post 1572, and then never mentioned again.
Best Bird has Roden as null in 1173
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The last person left and the top of Roden's town list. They list Roden as null in 883.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Hey guys I'm sorry, I actually read Bell as scum by tone/intuition in two places now and I'm going to jump on it.
VOTE: Bell
There are two specific posts which Bell soft pinged red for me which I can elaborate on if you want.
@Pooky
Bell -> scum
Roden -> nullBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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In post 3985, Frogsterking wrote:Klick -> Town
@PookyIn post 4226, Frogsterking wrote:Hey guys I'm sorry, I actually read Bell as scum by tone/intuition in two places now and I'm going to jump on it.
VOTE: Bell
There are two specific posts which Bell soft pinged red for me which I can elaborate on if you want.
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Bell -> scum
Roden -> null
RCE -> TownBruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Aloofness in the spoilers above, not Town by tone, TMI that Roden is town and unable to empathize with the discussion.
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There's a sudden spike in the signal to noise ratio in the spoilers above, 539 reminded me of a similar scum post from another game I played. It's not townie by tone and I'm not sure why, if I had to guess it's because of TMI over Galron being town.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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My intuition is that Bell has demonstrated TMI in their tone twice now, and they are the high-activity scum poster as well as the scum in the hood. I suggest we wagon Bell next.
Well guys, I think my work here is done.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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I explained my rationale in 4254.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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Nothing personal, I've been talked down from my tone reads successfully by scum before. My experience is that I don't give my observations of this kind enough weight and I regret it later.In post 4287, Bell wrote:
Cool. Alright then.In post 4285, Frogsterking wrote:I'm down to wagon Ceph, Bell or Dwlee.Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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In post 4286, Bell wrote:
I explained what I was doing immediately after you made your rationale.In post 4283, Frogsterking wrote:I explained my rationale in 4254.
Any questions?In post 4287, Bell wrote:
Cool. Alright then.In post 4285, Frogsterking wrote:I'm down to wagon Ceph, Bell or Dwlee.In post 4289, Bell wrote:On a scale of 1 to 10 how mad would you be Nancy if Titus was trying to cover for Dunnstral’s mistake?In post 4290, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:What mistake?In post 4292, Bell wrote:Dunnstral openly doubted Roden’s claim.
I think this looks like Bell!scum choking because they were distracted from arguing down my tone read.In post 4294, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:OK? And that's a mistake because?
Am I missing context here or?
How do you know Dunn made a mistake?Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
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