TFT uPick [Game over!]

[Vivax]

I reanimated a drowned lizard when I was a kid, I like spicy food and to watch the world burn from a mountain
So I signed up for this game

Dunn - town
NDMath - scum
Nomsy - town
Meek - null/scum
beeboy - town
Titus - null/town
MK - town
Toogeloo - null/scum
Fred - town
Mastina - town
Sara - ?

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GE - town
Sara - null/town

[Vivax]

Nomsy didn‘t post like someone with a scum role PM that much I know
If you want to get out of RVS, don‘t do it
Where did I put my cpt. obvious hat

[Vivax]

Yume - null/town
Frogster - town

[Vivax]

GE - town
Sara - null/town

Correction post-review
GE - null/scum

VOTE: MeekMeerkat

[Vivax]

Yume - null/town
Frogster - town

Yume null/town how?

The how is what leads a town to bad guesses

[Vivax]

Enchant - scum

[Vivax]

Enchant - scum

I am Cop

Hi cop, I‘m the doc (not role)
but I‘m also pestilence
and you still have a nongreen pm

[Vivax]

Fuck having reasons I‘m not falling for that again
Back to soulgaming

[Vivax]

Enchant - scum

I am Cop

Hi cop, I‘m the doc (not role)
but I‘m also pestilence
and you still have a nongreen pm

what's up doc?

Chillin at the lake, trying to catch some sun before a bath in cold water
I‘ll show this thread something cool later

[Vivax]

That said, my read on mastina is probably twisted by seeing histrionic text which is a D1 free pass in my books

[Vivax]

If anyone drives you to madness while playing the game, you lose and your fate is in their hands at the right time, which comes after.
Pony island!

[Vivax]

That said, my read on mastina is probably twisted by seeing histrionic text which is a D1 free pass in my books

what makes it histrionic?
My bet is she has a post restriction

It‘s my cup of mumbojumbo, but intended at keeping town from yeeting scum

[Vivax]

im back :3

So.

If 18 player summoned by trainer (which idk), do you think they share alignments?

i will not tell u my identity but i will tell u i am ur super secret tpr

You sound like a hammer type of person

[Vivax]

Nomsy changes to null/scum

[Vivax]

Dunn - town
NDMath - scum
Nomsy - scum
Meek - scum
beeboy - town
Titus - null/town
MK - town
Toogeloo - null/town
Fred - town
Mastina - town
Sara - town
Enchant - scum
Malakittens - town
Yume - null/town
Tictac - null/town

witty line here

[Vivax]

Vivax, your thoughts on Toog?

None, a panda biting a tire, but they can have a townread regardless

[Vivax]

I love how vivax just keeps acting like I’m invisible.

Weeeewooooowowweeeeowooo

I've heard that quite often
Lozt many good zailors to the zirens at zea before I reached my hideout
now I'm awaiting a fiery blaze amid the human hope-chasers

SirCakez town

[Vivax]

Enchant - scum

I am Cop

Hi cop, I‘m the doc (not role)
but I‘m also pestilence
and you still have a nongreen pm

Excuse me you must be wrong because I’m a paramedic. I am full medical authority up in this joint!

I used to be in the medical field like you, then I took an arrow to the shoulder
Now I'm

Spoiler:

[Vivax]

But yeah I'm very gloomy today, gotta hit rock bottom then crawl my way up again to positivity as usual

[Vivax]

Spoiler:

Rate each descriptive statement on how well it describes you using the Likert scale (1 = strongly disagree to 5 = strongly agree).

"Get angry easily" = 1 (I wish)

"Take charge" = 1

"Make people feel welcome" = 3

"Like music" = 5

"Like to tidy up" = 1

"Like to visit new places" = 2

"Feel comfortable around people" = 2 (trust-based)

"Interested in many things" = 5

"Love order and regularity" = 3 (Order 1 but regularity more around 4-5)

"Am afraid to draw attention to myself" = 4 (trends down with age)

"Enjoy being part of a large crowd" = 3 (1 for concerts, 5 for stadium)

"Cheer people up" = 5

"Lose my temper" = 1

"Enjoy the beauty of nature" = 5

"Enjoy thinking about things" = 5

"Cheat to get ahead" = 1

"Feel desperate" = 2

"Rarely overindulge" = 1

"Easily resist temptations" = 3

"Have a high opinion of myself" = 3

"Waste my time" = 5

"Need a push to get started" = 5

"Have little to contribute" = 1

"Keep my cool" = 5

"Avoid crowds" = 1

"Turn my back on others" = 3 (very situational)

The hidden variables you're not assessing for in many of these is appetence/aversion and attribution theory (perception of chosen vs. imposed)
imho
So can't say that my answers are supposed to be accurate, outside of writing and away from a PC I'm an observant brick that doesn't seek control of anything til it gets drunk or its space invaded

Going to slowly reassess thingies in the game

[Vivax]

HEAL: Ancient archives

Ancient knowledge is my bread and butter
My head's still not in a good place today, but the cheekyness from Toog for getting a weak townread is noted

[Vivax]

VOTE: vivax i have read nothing yet

VOTE: MeekMeerkat

VOTE: Frederick
Ok this entrance sucked

I think the vivax vote was better
VOTE: Vivax
the repeated blathering about updating reads without actually interacting or expanding on them in a meaningful capacity is scummy-bad

how can you say that was a good vote when I said I hadn't read anything in the same post?

I don't really suspect frederick yet, is why

Ok and why do you suspect Vivax then

Read what I said in 126.

Vivax iso is also going downhill. The last two posts 218 and 254 are bad. 218 for being a scummy response (introducing a lot of noise) and 254 for making excuses about content.

You only scumread two people in the game?
I mean, if giving my read on literally everyone and updating them from time to time (albeit with a heavy gut factor) is scummy, I can shitpost instead, but I don't see how that's supposed to be an improvement.

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I think the manner in which you’re posting it is performative because you can’t bother to actually try to fake a progression as scum.

Can't say I'd disagree with that.
Question you should be asking is if I've got a reason to change my posting that is NAI. Like mood swings. I'm quite the pendulum.
I find that if I post closer to my actual mood I'm more likely town than not, but you can't take my word for that, obviously.
I also think you're not unlikely to be scum here, so you're the wrong person to convince if that's right.

Do you believe you'd need to second guess my intent when I want to vote meerkat?

[Vivax]

Currently trying to do a portrait and I've rubbered a hole into where the mouth should be, why is that part so damn hard (the miniwrinkles)
But I've gotten to sunbathe and actually be able to read something again, let's see how I fare at mafia tomorrow or later. Heading out for a bit.

[Vivax]

Oh my turn for a random question. Without revealing your tag publicly, who here likes discord? I do.

Me too.

Same here
Also had an epiphany of sorts while mingling
Where has the lost art of asking questions gone to?

[Vivax]

Oh my turn for a random question. Without revealing your tag publicly, who here likes discord? I do.

Me too.

Same here
Also had an epiphany of sorts while mingling
Where has the lost art of asking questions gone to?

I have a question. What do you want to know?

@Toog, Discord, yes or no.

If we're talking hoods, best to get that in the open so people can pick their best ones.

What's an alien to do amid a village of urge-driven imbecils who exploit it for their own gain?

[Vivax]

I have a secret scumread rn.

Me too.

The audacity of
a special place reserved

[Vivax]

Of course they'd pretend they got it, but the further actions would prove they hadn't
Identity theft
Gonna curse another one
not in this game presumably

[Vivax]

VOTE: Best Friends

Best Friends > Mages. Archives lost.

Confused by Vivax's 346.

Yeah it‘s for other recipients
I‘ve been had by design, but for a high price to the culprits who took advantage of it now that I know them
When you‘re me you are kept in the dark while the messages or gifts are intercepted

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Sobered up and am no longer sour from having to listen to inane bs all the time (game unrelated)
That‘s an incentive alright

So NDmath didn‘t properly backtrack from the MK scumread which suggests the pairing makes sense with early bus

[Vivax]

MK = Meerkat

Yume deffo needs a n-hood, math too maybe. A bit on their mind apparently.
While I‘d prefer a wizard nexus ;D

[Vivax]

Spoiler: survey

Rate each descriptive statement on how well it describes you using the Likert scale (1 = strongly disagree to 5 = strongly agree).

"Get angry easily" = 3

"Take charge" = 3

"Make people feel welcome" = 2

"Like music" = 4

"Like to tidy up" = 2

"Like to visit new places" = 2

"Feel comfortable around people" = 1

"Interested in many things" = 2

"Love order and regularity" =4

"Am afraid to draw attention to myself" = 2

"Enjoy being part of a large crowd" = 1

"Cheer people up" = 5

"Lose my temper" = 3

"Enjoy the beauty of nature" = 3

"Enjoy thinking about things" = 5

"Cheat to get ahead" = 1

"Feel desperate" = 2

"Rarely overindulge" = 3

"Easily resist temptations" = 3

"Have a high opinion of myself" = 4

"Waste my time" = 3

"Need a push to get started" = 5

"Have little to contribute" = 2

"Keep my cool" = 4

"Avoid crowds" = 5

"Turn my back on others" = 1

Interesting later addition
Gonna have to null/scum you if you weren‘t already though
Because you are avoiding to contribute alignment related info imo

Do you have like, 3 TRs and 3 SRs?

[Vivax]

Just starting to townread mastina with a p-value of 95%.

I have a feeling I'm using p-values incorrectly in some way that a statistician may be able to tell me.

The cutoff is 97.5 for unimodal curves, 95 for bimodal
Are you measuring two spectrums or one?

I don't even know if this is a game of mafia anymore lmao

[Vivax]

"Since the precise meaning of p-value is hard to grasp, misuse is widespread..."

lol it's not rocket science, it's the probability that the measurement of a difference is caused by chance (1-p rather)

Dunnstral do you have 3 strong reads on either alignment? You're sandbagging here

[Vivax]

"Since the precise meaning of p-value is hard to grasp, misuse is widespread..."

lol it's not rocket science, it's the probability that the measurement of a difference is caused by chance (1-p rather)

Dunnstral do you have 3 strong reads on either alignment? You're sandbagging here

I mean, just p is that chance. 1-p is the transformation if you do it manually iirc, wrote it wrong there. But I can tell you more soon cause I need to dig into epidem anyway

[Vivax]

Why do I need to have 3 strong reads for either alignment?

To get an idea of where your head is at in this game

[Vivax]

Sobered up and am no longer sour from having to listen to inane bs all the time (game unrelated)
That‘s an incentive alright

So NDmath didn‘t properly backtrack from the MK scumread which suggests the pairing makes sense with early bus

What does this mean? NDMath is bussing me? Why do you scumread me, again?

Your page 1 posts are obviscum to me, performative they call it
At this point if you had reasons to townread Dunn they should be exhausted or updated, because it's not pro-town play from them

[Vivax]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Would add that when I characterized mastinas play as histrionic, GE asked me about it as if it was supposed to be in her defense.
When it was obviously meant in a positive way considering that it was a reason for me to write off masti as D1 lim. Histrionic in mafia is fun tee hee.

So it reads like a botched attempt at whiteknighting a town to me

[Vivax]

Idk who I want to neighbour with, already have a bag full of souls
and usually keep to myself because I carry the spirit of rebellion
if you‘re an exorcist or speak italian you‘re welcome, or if you have a bad opinion and want to see me from a nicer side

[Vivax]

There might be cookies or something for anyone who neighbors with me, fyi

This is serious, btw.

I‘m up for it. If you have the discipline to chat with a devil (me n god get along well btw, it is just slightly salty that I created duality cuz I was bored of being a spoiled kid)

[Vivax]

As punishment it keeps sending me back here :/
If you want to make a mess, go live in it, it said

[Vivax]

The sun these days is awesome, could be much stronger yet for my teint, taste and some collateral damage

[Vivax]

That said, my read on mastina is probably twisted by seeing histrionic text which is a D1 free pass in my books

what makes it histrionic?
My bet is she has a post restriction

I posted this because calling mastina "histrionic" felt kinda offensive

Thought as much, but to me it read like townspewing since you got it that way when it was meant in the way of a conpliment. I enjoy it when people put up any type of act in mafia (and that‘s what being histrionic is about, not in the disorder sense) so I immediately added that I‘d give her a free pass anyway, which is not needed cause by now I‘m leaning town anyway.

I think Dunn is getting away with a lot for being someone who should look like a succulent push. Don‘t see anyone poking that way or math‘s

[Vivax]

I just don‘t buy the tunnel from you, there‘s enough lowposters successfully skirting by but you insist on focusing on one of the most productive players. On D1 we should be squeezing for info mostly, not punish talkative players.

[Vivax]

already have a bag full of souls

The SOULS of the FALLEN shall all be MINE. You shall RESPECT that I need DEVOTION to reach FULL POWER in good time.

Nah, I worked through a life of learning and renounciation to get my new aspect beamed in >={

Divine grace rewarded me for not using my abilities to overshade others for selfish reasons, but now I am free to do as I please for the process is irreversible and my throne awaits

The souls gathered are just a side effect of tempting the ones who believed I wished for anything but expression of self

But I believe I see your intentions here and ask who you would have voted off to use your powers?

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Keep your cool it‘s just jubjubs who push the notion you‘re not town

[Vivax]

I’m a cat. I want the attention when I want it and then once I’m done with it I’ll let you know enough is enough )

Bruh, every single time when I‘m allergic to cats

I can see a Malaskummens world.
But is Mastina on a revenge crusade on mk or not?

[Vivax]

VOTE: Malakittens

deus vult deus vult

[Vivax]

can we talk more about stinky these reads are

HEAL: Best Friends

With no real real info to go off of, may as well just go with this one I guess.

I'm ok with mastina right now. She's active enough. Almost every scum game I've played with her she posts a read list and lurks while bigger fish get fried. She is obfuscating a bit, but I don't see any reason to push her right now. I would like to see her discuss my reads and her opinions there.

These are my main town reads though...
Gamma
Dunnstral
SirCakez
Titus
Yume

...in that order.

Scum reads are weak, but include...
Vivax
Fred
Tictac
Enchant

...also roughly in that order. Enchant and Tictac are naturally scummy to me in general though.

Not listed players I have no real opinion on.

VOTE: Vivax

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I use Discord for many things, but it's mostly for gaming. Pokemon Go, Villainous, Supermassive Games, and whatever my flavor of the month mobile game might be. I don't really socialize on them often though. If you see Toogeloo on any social platform it's almost assuredly me though, lol.

toogleoogle is coasting thru this first lim

Wolfy Poppins spotted

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if we aint limming toogleoogle them lim malakit while they v/la and cant defend themselves imho

Well that’s a shitty way to play and you should be ashamed of yourself. If you do this and I do find your main I’ll make sure that a policy lim is in order for the anti town play

Nomsy's post was likely meant for the scum PT.

Proof again that the spirit of rebellion invaded the game
I don‘t do this usually but
lolololol

[Vivax]

VOTE: Nomsy

[Vivax]

Mastina is a fellow fanatic of the mafia warrior code. No vested interests or grudges allowed

[Vivax]

I think it's too shitty to actually come from mafia...
Really.

I am about Normy.

Adorable post tbh

[Vivax]

The chaos of these pages is voraciously invigorating

[Vivax]

I kinda have reservations about certain things. Not that it matters anyway, since if mastina is scum, I'll probably be dead before I can reveal it.

If you don‘t townlock this post as town, uninstall this game

[Vivax]

Oh I thought they were in the game. Never mind, then I know exactly who Nomsy is then.

if we aint limming toogleoogle them lim malakit while they v/la and cant defend themselves imho

Well that’s a shitty way to play and you should be ashamed of yourself. If you do this and I do find your main I’ll make sure that a policy lim is in order for the anti town play

Echo for big catch

[Vivax]

Ah, probably shouldn't have said that in public...

Yes that is why I avoided saying it in the first place.

I specifically said "I know the game" so as to avoid having you mention the game.

Thank you for the read reccommendation from Raccoon nation

[Vivax]

God I so want to PURGE the voters on me.
May your beds be infested with bed bugs

[Vivax]

But for real:

Enchant for this game (possibly this round) I really do need to be the hammer. So I’d prefer you to give it to me.

Secondly - the spew from Mastina right now is clouded by the post restriction, but it’s too early to tell, but gut tells me Mastina might have actually gotten a town role this time.

UNVOTE: Mastina

I might be wrong about nosmy being MB. I think it’s a different player now.

Dunnstrals catch I echoed earlier doesn‘t look as hot now. Actually a good angle to push if scum.
Dunnstral trends down and MK up

[Vivax]

BTW I am 89% sure that Enchants pop in with meek Nomsy defense spewed Nomsy town

VOTE: Enchant

[Vivax]

BTW I am 89% sure that Enchants pop in with meek Nomsy defense spewed Nomsy town

VOTE: Enchant

It was reverse psych strat from scum who feels outed

[Vivax]

The page 21 gamma wagon seemed questionable to me but my opinion's biased since I scumlean 3 of the 4 voters beforehand.
Additionally, Yume after Mastina's death seems dramatic to the point that it seems for show.

You HAVE to be scum to think this. You also missed the post that should make you townlock Yume. This is game detachment level 100

VOTE: NDMath

[Vivax]

GE moves to townleans, Titus to scumleans which is troublesome cause now legends has the chance of being a M/T slot.
The strategically part of this post reads exaggeratedly tryhard

Spoiler:

Well yes, that is my plan. To coordinate a very large communication hub. However, it requires absolute trust amongst the three players in the center and a decent amount of trust in the spokes.

(Someone could determine that now that the name has been dropped.)

Unless Frogsterking rejects my proposal (which is set to trigger upon him being friended), it will become apparently obvious how I intended to do this and why it requires absolute consent from the players in the center.

Who are the players in the center?

At the moment, just me. I expect Frogsterking soon. Then, I was hoping for mastina.
The spokes would be Dunnstral, Frogsterking's friend and you.

I wanted mala because I townread her and it would help us sort out our differences but with mastina being so far against malakittens and Frogster, I'm a bit worried about the viability and may have to change the center.

If you’re willing to trust me, could me and meerkat replace frog and mala?

I am not willing to trust you. I don't have the absolute faith required to add either of you to the center. Frogsterking would also realistically need to sign off on that once he accepts. He trusts you but still. I think he'd honor my request to not be a jerk.

Could you at least

try

to work with me then? I’m trying to reconcile my concerns with your play, it doesn’t feel like you’re doing the same back. I think if we’re both town we need to work to find that out rather than be at odds.

Of course. I'll never foreclose working together with someone barring a guilty claim or really pissing me off.

Like I said, strategically I may have to reassess some things due to uncontrollable personality clashes.

New launch list: Meerkat, Titus, Enchant, NDMath, (Nomsy)
I'm a sad panda that Nomsy claimed BG and think it's fake because the play suggests otherwise

[Vivax]

Mastina continued to do the rp thing and slowly revealed more and more info about their role, pretty much outright saying that they had 4 abilities that scaled up as people died. Predictably, mafia didn't like that very much and shot her dead. What wasn't expected was that she was also killed during the day phase, so we lost our doublevoter-bp-loved-commuter-cop-governor-dayvigilante. In the resulting power vacuum that ensued from both the day vig firing and mastina's broken role dying, Titus decided to gundam morph into FrogsterKing's slot and now they're a hydra account with 2 seperate alignments (which could be the same). Titus the aired out a laundry list of downsides to doing so then basically said "trust me bro" and hinted that they had really good powers too, so we can expect mafia to take offense to that too. Oh and they only count as 1 for parity so we now have 16 people left on day 1 when we started with 18 in this 17 player game.

Actually, scratch Titus, putting Dunnstral in that slot whom I also suspect to have shot mastina. This post is juggling a lot with information obtained from a scummy vantage point.
If Nomsy is not scum, Toogeloo is. The timing of Toog proposing a hood also made me sus, for some reason. Maybe because they

felt they had to unvote me first for fear of not looking scummy.

Off the premise that there's 5 baddies, maybe it's 6 even?

The hood mechanic irritates me a bit. Has the side effect of making peeps left out of something. Will have to think about it more but if I could I'd probably pick the hydra slot since that seems to be the most productive avenue.

Yume, aren't you in a hood with Legends yet?

[Vivax]

Mastina continued to do the rp thing and slowly revealed more and more info about their role, pretty much outright saying that they had 4 abilities that scaled up as people died. Predictably, mafia didn't like that very much and shot her dead. What wasn't expected was that she was also killed during the day phase, so we lost our doublevoter-bp-loved-commuter-cop-governor-dayvigilante. In the resulting power vacuum that ensued from both the day vig firing and mastina's broken role dying, Titus decided to gundam morph into FrogsterKing's slot and now they're a hydra account with 2 seperate alignments (which could be the same). Titus the aired out a laundry list of downsides to doing so then basically said "trust me bro" and hinted that they had really good powers too, so we can expect mafia to take offense to that too. Oh and they only count as 1 for parity so we now have 16 people left on day 1 when we started with 18 in this 17 player game.

Actually, scratch Titus, putting Dunnstral in that slot whom I also suspect to have shot mastina. This post is juggling a lot with information obtained from a scummy vantage point.
If Nomsy is not scum, Toogeloo is. The timing of Toog proposing a hood also made me sus, for some reason. Maybe because they

felt they had to unvote me first for fear of not looking scummy.

Off the premise that there's 5 baddies, maybe it's 6 even?

The hood mechanic irritates me a bit. Has the side effect of making peeps left out of something. Will have to think about it more but if I could I'd probably pick the hydra slot since that seems to be the most productive avenue.

Yume, aren't you in a hood with Legends yet?

No. It starts at EOD. And you're trying to lynch them.

Not really, just had a sus moment on Titus for the way the post was worded.

NDMath, MeekMeer, Enchant are my stronger SRs
Dunnstral, Nomsy, Toog my weaker

?Sara?TicTac?Cakez? Tough slots. Would require pressure but don't feel like they're pushing an agenda or looking for threadpull so far.

I'm as appalled as you at the dayvig shot
and don't know if/who to neighbor with yet

[Vivax]

Off the premise that there's 5 baddies, maybe it's 6 even?

A game of this size should have 4 mafia

Thanks. I tend to neglect the framework, seems to be your cup of tea.
The hydra makes me nervous cause it makes me question if there's a recruiting mech

[Vivax]

Been playing for around 10 years, why?

[Vivax]

HEAL: mage

I’m getting an impression that scum is least afraid of Best Friends, and none of the town speculations about it sound that appealing. (Neighborhoods are fun, but not always helpful).

Would also vote archive if that gained popularity.

ISOd MeekMeerkat and feel better about him being town.

Can support a vote on Sara

VOTE: Sara

[Vivax]

crazy game..moving on

bruh
of all the stuff I've posted about mastina you think the worst is me characterizing her posting style this game as obfuscating is the worst?
I kinda get that, it's shading from a certain PoV, but I also consider it just about fact.
also who said anything about ISO reading mastina? You're kinda making shit up here.

u made up a push and responded to that instead of 2 the one i actually made.
excuses are scummy because folks feel like they need to live up to their inflated conceptions of what their towngame is as scum, and u especially prone 2 this.
iso-reading as opposed to context reading, because yume was treating mastina as a known quantity, and not hiding this at all making mastina context-town without even looking at mastinas posts. granted that wasn't as strong as i thought cause Y did exhibit doubt later, but eh. M was town, and it's a sidepoint.
VOTE: gamma
still on this

---next post---

augment choice: didn't see a reason 2 prefer one mystery-box 2 other, so picked one that sounded cool.
yume seemed 2 feel strongly tho, and i townread the mastina interaction, so i accomodated

--next post---

accept neighborhood w toog

cookies.

What do you mean by 'so I accomodated'?
What's your read on toog?

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Been playing for around 10 years, why?

I guess that's how you caught on to me so quickly

I think you're town atm.
No idea who used the dayvig, it's hard to infer and nobody should think they could
Maybe Frogster? Titus got added after asking who used it as town maybe

[Vivax]

Mastina town

Meerkat - W
Dunn - W

This one is not updating

[Vivax]

HEAL: mage

I’m getting an impression that scum is least afraid of Best Friends, and none of the town speculations about it sound that appealing. (Neighborhoods are fun, but not always helpful).

Would also vote archive if that gained popularity.

ISOd MeekMeerkat and feel better about him being town.

Can support a vote on Sara

VOTE: Sara

Can't decide if you're just appeasing me or if you're one of those townies whose thought process is completely opaque

I'm just appeasing you

[Vivax]

@ Gamma Emerald

I had to scroll a bit to check, you TRed beebs earlier and I take this to mean that doesn't change, why do you TR beebs?

I'm asking that question to reevaluate my read on beebs

[Vivax]

Spoiler:

RAGE MODE: ACTIVATE

Reading about it on wikipedia is also quite something in certain passages

He attacks the army and kills hundreds, building walls of corpses.

Cú Chulainn's geasa included a ban against eating dog meat, but in early Ireland there was a powerful general taboo against refusing hospitality, so when an old crone offers him a meal of dog meat, he has no choice but to break his geis.

[Vivax]

Spoiler:

RAGE MODE: ACTIVATE

Reading about it on wikipedia is also quite something in certain passages

He attacks the army and kills hundreds, building walls of corpses.

Cú Chulainn's geasa included a ban against eating dog meat, but in early Ireland there was a powerful general taboo against refusing hospitality, so when an old crone offers him a meal of dog meat, he has no choice but to break his geis.

According to the song, that's how they were able to take him down. Apparently, dog meat drained his strength.

Any sane person would rather starve than eat their own dog, or not?

[Vivax]

VOTE: NDMath

[Vivax]

We can be bossy if need be, but I'd rather not.

Also, Yume can you provide reasons for your reads? That would help.

~Titus

aw

[Vivax]

My townreads currently are Gamma, Legends, Meek, Enchant, and Yume, although Yume is because there's multiple people telling me their blatant obvtown rather than any of my own thoughts.
Also to a lesser extent than my other townreads, Fredrick.
Dunn, Beeboy, and Sircakez are roughly null to me.
Which leaves {Vivax Tictac Sara Toog Mala} as south of null; I plan to review these and attempt to explain my thoughts in the next hourish.

On Sara this is their towniest game imo after a short meta dive and idk what to think about that. Nomsy's argument about the vigshot looks weaker than I initially thought since Sara's iso before and after mastina's death looks pretty similar.

On Toog I agree with Gamma's thoughts:

Toog of town I think should have done something spicey by now, so I think they can be scum

My impression of toogeloo being there is usually more to remark on their play when town whereas here toogeloo has been rather low impact and less engaged than my previous experiences with them, granted it's been awhile since I last played with Toog.

On Tictac they're a scumlean for their weaker posting , #877 is their best post but I'm not convinced of their reasoning supporting their scumread on gamma enough.

On Mala, that scumlean was primarily from Mastina's push and I'm not feeling as good about the read currently with some other details I'm rereading.

On Vivax, starting in the 400s they have a number of weird posts imo, specifically regarding their scumreads. Such as their talk of me bussing meek was nonsensical, they make multiple weird claims relating to Nomsy slot interactions, and meek/me/enchant is an almost lazy trio of scumreads they've clung to nearly the whole game thus far.

[Vivax]

On Sara this is their towniest game imo after a short meta dive and idk what to think about that. - What?

and meek/me/enchant is an almost lazy trio of scumreads they've clung to nearly the whole game thus far. - You + Enchant is a thing. Meek is now in TRs

Dunn, Beeboy, and Sircakez are roughly null to me - 1 or 2 scum in here *grin*

On Vivax, starting in the 400s they have a number of weird posts imo - Hate to break it to you, but I am weird posting in the flesh

Well

Town: Vivax, you, me
Scum: Mala, Nomsy
Null: Everybody else

Fine, am I doing this right?

Best friends augment: Yume

[Vivax]

Hm.

Titus, how many times you can hydra?
And do people you hydra will die with you?

Type of info scum is interested in tbh

@ Yume

What are you trying to achieve by calling GE to your readslist?

[Vivax]

Vivax, want to form a neighborhood?

Aaye!

>>>>>>>>>

Hood request accepted

<<<<<<<<<

Should be hard to miss for the mods

[Vivax]

[5]

Sara

: Nomsy, Malakittens, MeekMeerkat, Enchant, Toogeloo
[3]

NDMath

: Yume, Vivax, Dunnstral
[1]

beeboy

: Fredrick A Campbell
[1]

Gamma Emerald

: tictac

[10]

Not voting

: Sara, NDMath, beeboy, SirCakez, Gamma Emerald, Legends

Is this correct? Hopped off the last official VC, maybe Fred is willing to help

Hammer is at 9

[Vivax]

[4]

Sara

: Nomsy, Malakittens, MeekMeerkat, Enchant
[5]

NDMath

: Yume, Vivax, Dunnstral, Legends, Toogeloo
[1]

beeboy

: Fredrick A Campbell
[1]

Gamma Emerald

: tictac

[10]

Not voting

: Sara, NDMath, beeboy, SirCakez, Gamma Emerald

Hammer is at 9

That Sara wagon has strong 'baited' potential for later analysis if it's on town (which atm I'm inclined to think but wouldn't bet on it)

[Vivax]

What the eff is a , "doot?"

Weird question that nobody can answer probably
Does that answer it?

Wagon formation looks very good to catch scum but I have my doubts that they have the courage to push a mislim right now. Might be one of those games where we catch them all cause they don't feel like posting

[Vivax]

hello clowns!

someone catch me up im at work rn xoxo

[Vivax]

Though I agree wagon composition on Sara was iffy

She did a great job if so

[Vivax]

Toog, we're already with Yume.

Looked at the last vote count, and assumed it was dissolved.

I propose a neighborhood with Dunnstral.
I propose a neighborhood with Malakittens.
I propose a neighborhood with Sara.
I propose a neighborhood with meekmeerkat.
I propose a neighborhood with beeboy.
I propose a neighborhood with SirCakez.
I propose a neighborhood with TicTac.
I propose a neighborhood with Enchant.
I propose a neighborhood with Fred.
I propose a neighborhood with NDMath.

Did I forget anyone?

Is it just me or is this how scum treats the augment power

It's just you. Toog towned it up a lot on the last pages.
You on the other hand are trending back down in my books

[Vivax]

vivax gives scum vibes..?

Conftown marci

[Vivax]

[6] NDMath : Yume, Vivax, Dunnstral, Legends[2], Toogeloo
[4] Sara : Nomsy, Malakittens, MeekMeerkat, Enchant

I actually feel about the same about these two wagons. Wouldn’t be surprised if 3-4 of us on Sara are town, even though I know that’s not consensus

Distant laughter from scumchat

[Vivax]

None of toogeloo’s posts from the last 4 pages are towny to me. Which are towny to you, Vivax?

I think the ball is in your court, not mine, for asking questions
Nonchalant is a word you can have as a crutch

[Vivax]

[6] NDMath : Yume, Vivax, Dunnstral, Legends[2], Toogeloo
[4] Sara : Nomsy, Malakittens, MeekMeerkat, Enchant

I actually feel about the same about these two wagons. Wouldn’t be surprised if 3-4 of us on Sara are town, even though I know that’s not consensus

Distant laughter from scumchat

If Nomsy/Enchant are scum they’re probably sweating. I’m like their only hope

Sauna is more expensive in other places

[Vivax]

VOTE: NDMath for game momentum

lol

GAME MOMENTUM

[Vivax]

VOTE: NDMath for game momentum

lol

GAME MOMENTUM

do u guys know eachother

Not yet but maybe someday in this life or another
Depends on how much more stupid the leadership wants to get

[Vivax]

Seems like a foxy fella tho

[Vivax]

vivax gives scum vibes..?

walks back on this
:person_standing:

Toolate.jpg

[Vivax]

I'm a Guardian, I survive my first death that isn't from elimination and at that point get to choose another player to do the same.

I'm a guardian too, I survive a bunch of deaths and then bring hellfire upon the world

[Vivax]

In any case, your claim is meaningless and you should die anyway for posting a bunch of scummy croop

[Vivax]

Dunn - town
NDMath - scum
Nomsy - scum
Meek - scum
beeboy - town
Titus - null/town
MK - town
Toogeloo - null/town
Fred - town
Mastina - town
Sara - town
Enchant - scum
Malakittens - town
Yume - null/town
Tictac - null/town

witty line here

Requoting this list for 4/4 potential

[Vivax]

In any case, your claim is meaningless and you should die anyway for posting a bunch of scummy croop

can you explain why what they did is scummy? i dont see it

I know you're doing damage control, I'm used to it

[Vivax]

what-
i just want to know the reasons

I deleted the previous answer to preserve your sanity
But you still know it's correct, and if not, can surely point out where it's wrong with the appropriate effort

[Vivax]

how is beeboy a legit scumread anyone has what have they even done

i dont remember seeinf a single post fron them..

I kinda think his town/scum meta are divergent that he can be read on 7 posts
He sounds wooden here, rather than natural. Wanna guess which alignment thosw trend towards for him?

VOTE: Mastina

Good chance this slot is scum.

Let’s yeet.

Also I need to be the hammerer guys on any of the eliminations.

Is it a garbo read to say making this connection is townie?
Like don't you say "oh they keep rolling scum and are therefore definitely going to be town now" if you were scum over thinking your opening shit posts.

Townie post, and even with a good point about Mala
What's wooden about BBs posts?

For all I know Meerkats last appearance was almost meme-y , don't know how you can miss that and the following thread emergency ejection. That's not a player who seems to be a lowposter as of usual. Last time they put a lot of effort in they managed to give off townie vibes to me.

[Vivax]

On the offchance there's 5 scum cause of host flavour tinfoil, tic-tac is my nr.5 . Or maybe GE, but no point to discuss this on D1
Then Enchant, MMK, NDMath, Nomsy

I didn't claim anything yet. I just roleplay almost in every game (sometimes so well it's believable apparently, or maybe it's true when you believe it? Who knows, up to you , the best stories are made from mixing reality with fiction)
I will soft that I have an in-thread ability which is public when used

If we have a legit counterclaim from Vivax, I'm not sure why no one is bringing that up. We had to pick 3 roles for a reason. I doubt we have two people with the same picks.

Lol

Only funny if you know I'm town

I'm often swingy and my read accuracy in games can vary, but if it's good in this one I'd wager that there's a bunch of honorary Mafs at play already

I've had my share of horrible games, and another share of games where I've been policy-limmed for nailing mafia too quickly shrug

[Vivax]

SO TWO THEORIES
1) really lost new town.
2) really doesn’t read scum Pt and is good at faking lost scum

And your leading theory is that Sara is really good?

For my money I'd bet on incompetence first.

Last but not least
Incompetence is a crass word in this context. Sometimes it‘s just sandbagging with a good role, thinking everything relevant has been laid out already, shyness etc

We got a bunch of peeps already being pushed while possibly town, but less informative than average from their posts and that gives you info on what kind of mafs we‘re dealing with (not active ones).
Pick the more likely maf between math/sara/BB and you can guess who‘s being pushed to save the scum among them unless you believe it‘s all town

p-edit: Drunk Titus. Is anything worse than Gin?

[Vivax]

Yes whiskey. Titus always has bad experiences with whiskey.

Does she? Who are you, Cu chulainn maybe?

[Vivax]

Yes whiskey. Titus always has bad experiences with whiskey.

Does she? Who are you, Cu chulainn maybe?

No, I am.

Apologies for the grave insult by forgetting that

The mafia adapted and evolved quickly to avoid drawing attention, but they can't fool

us

even with such clever and intricate disguises



@Fred, who is REDACTED?

[Vivax]

who is that post for?
beeboy?

I believe it's the stump of a meta case on Beeboy
I'm convinced tbh. I will vote for him on D2

[Vivax]

Beeboy failed the diceroll checks for willpower and fortitude when dealing with the paranormal hocuspocus from a few players, ahem
He’s now trying to regain his psyche in a puddle of honey somewhere

[Vivax]

A bit late for that, but I’ll say that shooting the highly motivated mastina was very cruel
You don‘t simply ice a performing artist on stage like that, the culprit will have much to answer for. But as mafia it‘d have been okay.

It could have been icy town...In which case we‘ll talk it out and discuss the hefty sum required to obtain indulgence for your sins from none other than me, the magnificent godfather of antipopes, not to be confused with antilopes, but you will need to bring plenty of envelopes and apply money in broad strokes

[Vivax]

what is the difference of antipopes and antilopes?

When the antilope sees you, it runs
When you see the antipope, you run

[Vivax]

I will yeet sara just for justice.

When you‘re so tunneled on yeeting a single player it becomes hard to agree with you
maybe if you channeled a meeting with a tingles slayer a bard would be free to vote with you

[Vivax]

What‘s with the hurry, did you just stand up from a toilet of curry?

Organize yourself a neighbour first if you haven‘t.
I wanted dank ancient texts, but we gotta use ze hoods now

[Vivax]

This is nonsensus level 1
I have never used my ultimate in a game
The great satyricon

[Vivax]

I will yeet sara just for justice.

SO TWO THEORIES
1) really lost new town.
2) really doesn’t read scum Pt and is good at faking lost scum

And your leading theory is that Sara is really good?

For my money I'd bet on incompetence first.

Here’s the thing.
I went through old games
Of Sara. Tbh they all aren’t the greatest, but I will admit I don’t want her in elimination.
Could she have shot Mastina? Possibly? The Rolefish x2 is horrible, but she also did it on her town game.
Her one scum game she had three posts and there was only 1/3 had some solid read list

So this *might* be a town game, but either way she can’t survive near elim. It reminds me of that slot on Cephrir game who legit prod dodged the whole game and went to ELOL and then flaked and got replaced

Why did you change your mind on yeeting Sara between these?
Did you find your car yet?

[Vivax]

I‘d p-launch everyone who voted for hoods if I could
That‘s another layer of intentions to sift through and you get this social competition situation screwing up several moods
Bunch of peeps feeling left out etc and now that needs mending to get to an agreement

[Vivax]

stop acting like this

I am Cu Chulainn. I act how I want.

that wasnt at you, i actually like how you've been acting.

i want vivax to stop acting like a spoiled brat

lmfao

Joking and rhyming is being a spoiled brat. Also disliking having to read from some that they'd like to be in a hood but aren't getting invited
Sorry for feeling sorry for them for that happening and that I don't like having expectations placed on random players to fix that

[Vivax]

[7]

Best Friends

Frogsterking, MeekMeerkat, Yume, Fredrick A Campbell, Malakittens, tictac, SirCakez
[5]

Mage Crest

Enchant, Gamma Emerald, NDMath, Nomsy, Sara
[3]

Ancient Archives

Titus, mastina, Vivax

Super interesting sorting. This is quite the VC to have a peek at personalities perhaps, or even alignments (mage crest contains a lot of sussys)

[Vivax]

So in the ancient archives crew one got dayvigged, the other formed a hydra and the last sign of activity was a drunk AMA (good plot tbh, seekers of ancient knowledge get hit by a curse like Montezumas revenge. One dies in religious ecstasy, one seeks refuge at the bottom of a bottle and the other one becomes the Joker)

Hello,

This is Titus. Frogsterking and I are now a hydra.

Here's a couple of obvious questions.

Frogster's alignment is not modconfirmed to me to be town, nor am I to him.
If either of us is scum, we both investigate as scum.
If either of us is scum, the slot counts as scum for parity.
We get tracked to whatever abilities we use.
We are multitasking.
Frogsterking's role was not disclosed to me.

Anything else about my role or Frogsterking's has been redacted.

Pedit: Well shit... that's an issue. I didn't predict the dissolving of the hoods.

~Titus

I can't even discard that this slot is scum and the Pedit looks fakeish (you wouldn't know your former hood assignment gets cleared? Find that hard to believe)

[Vivax]

Vivax is a scumfuck 100%
Of all the attack vector to try against legends, you’re going with fake mech play? Gtfooh

I'm poking and acting
That's how I play mafia
You don't want to see what Legends has to say?

[Vivax]

[7]

Best Friends

Frogsterking, MeekMeerkat, Yume, Fredrick A Campbell, Malakittens, tictac, SirCakez
[5]

Mage Crest

Enchant, Gamma Emerald, NDMath, Nomsy, Sara
[3]

Ancient Archives

Titus, mastina, Vivax

Super interesting sorting. This is quite the VC to have a peek at personalities perhaps, or even alignments (mage crest contains a lot of sussys)

Why'd you pull this VC instead of the final one?

Because that's the origin of the apple of discord

[Vivax]

How many votes is NDMath at
I think that’s the “safest” vote but idr how many people are there rn

What does safest mean in this context?

anyone else that is close to lim is unclaimed, and your claim is kinda meh and Vivax also soft-counterclaimed (this conflicts w my read on him but I’ll unpack that later)

Vivax is a scumfuck 100%
Of all the attack vector to try against legends, you’re going with fake mech play? Gtfooh

I'm poking and acting
That's how I play mafia
You don't want to see what Legends has to say?

I have an issue with the acting portion though. Your play feels like the sort of method acting I would get up to as scum last year or so. Like, the whole bit about cursed knowledge feels way too extra so I think you’re scum trying much too hard to implant a narrative seed. I’ve had urges to play into a narrative as both alignments but it’s more fluid as scum because you’re already pretending by playing the alignment!

I just try to have fun in games and find incentives to become creative. That's my motivation to play the game. Use interactions to improvise.

On a personal level, I suffer from a lifetime of compassion fatigue
Psychologize away on the implications for a personality when that happens to them
I know a few people in health professions and some become very eccentric and hard to reach

[Vivax]

[ENRAGE!]

VOTE: Beeboy

Not my choice but I feel like hammering
No regrets
More drama

On another note, the Joker movie

Spoiler:

is about the descent of a mental crutch profession into madness during systemic failure

makes you think or not?

[Vivax]

Not it for the no deaths

Gamma I'll gift you the honors of deciding, do we wagon toog or dunn

Or vivax

Do a hardclaim thenß

[Vivax]

VOTE: vivax

You know why.

Cause I hammered
it's justified but incorrect

[Vivax]

I'm a Guardian, I survive my first death that isn't from elimination and at that point get to choose another player to do the same.

You're saying you were targeted on N1 with utmost confidence and that you'Ve made someone else immune?

[Vivax]

The thing is, my role gives me a double vote and nightkill protection on the following night
And I've proven half of it, unless you believe I only have a double vote

[Vivax]

as a note: moving forward, please make sure to cc both myself and pooky on any night action submissions. your actions will not be processed unless you do this to save your friendly mods a headache or two. <3

If you don't send actions to both mods they get drunk and forget to chug down on aspirin
or whatever triggered this post

[Vivax]

VOTE: Vivax

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Vote wasn't accompanied by a 2 million characters post

For reference, I'm an expert on Gamma meta from playing a few games of mafia and this is what town Gamma should look like

problem being, the first vote phase, again, did not go anywhere near how I think it would have if 3 scum were in the group

wdym by that?

I'll break down the action on my side now

I open by j'accusing Fidget because I felt like her comment about doing blackjack and hookers with penguin felt a bit too sure the other side had scum, Fidget immediately posts like 7 times in a row in response to me. CSF enters kinda limply and votes Aisa. Loki posts stuff declaring Toog scum based on how they acted regarding the team selection. NAHA immediately goes for my throat calling my Fidget push "outing", Aisa comes in asking NAHA about their thoughts on Loki and Aisa's TRs on me and also addresses CSF's vote on her.
Aisa then brings up she wanted to find evidence NAHA was scum but just ended up with a TR there. To add some director's commentary, this feels like a weird stance to go with as scum since a) if you want to find reasons to SR a scumbuddy it'll usually be easier and b) if the goal was to just voice a TR Aisa could have just done that and tried to convince others rather than taking the position of the one to be convinced that NAHA is scum. I agree with Aisa's NAHA TR, she then asks me to explain it which puzzles me a little since it seemed like she was more interested in hearing logic the other way.
Fidget starts like, actually tryharding, which I did not see as towny in the moment. Loki says I've slipped in his reads for not having a narrow PoE which wasn't exactly true since I still TRed 3/5 of the other players in that thread att, but apparently no one bothers to track legacy reads when keeping tabs on what people's reads are at a certain moment. I bring up that my reads have stayed their course and Loki asks why they are what they are. I clarify my reads a bit and also ask Loki what happened to the meta TR on me. Aisa votes me right after as an attempt to sort me, also explains that the NAHA re-read ws motivated by NAHA being the only null on team 2 Aisa had with the others being townleans.
Loki clarifies which game his meta read on me was from and then starts drilling me on my reads. Loki also says my preference for team 2 didn't make sense (when I was highly confident Andante was scum but my Fidget suspicion felt more circumstantial), then attempts to say I should be SRing NAHA if I thought thinking both teams would fail was scum indicative (which was an absolute garbage-bin interpretation of my argument!)

I took some offense to the clarified meta because in essence it was saying in order to be townread I had to be a non-entity for the first part of the game, which is sucky. I also start shutting out Loki because I wasn't in the mood to argue with someone who very clearly had blinders on to actual sound logic and rational explanation. I also slam Loki for assuming my read on Andante changed because I was SRing Fidget after he did the same thing when NAHA hurt tagged penguin. Also I was getting tilted that Loki was acting like I wasn't doing anything to explain my Fidget SR when I was, it was just that because my reads are esoteric and can be formed on a whim based off something seemingly innocuous, it probably came off as nonsense. But I also think Loki had played with me more than enough to understand that was how I formed reads sometimes and the lack of comprehension of that pinged me. He also tried to construe me as TRing NAHA for expecting both teams to succeed which is NOWHERE NEAR ANYTHING I HAD SAID. I vote Loki in small part because the bad faith arguments were making me distrust him greatly but for the most part because I could tell he was emotionally charged so I knew a vote would likely result in a lightning-fast OMGUS, after which I attempted to hammer myself (NAHA and Aisa had voted before Loki). It's actually comical that the bait worked because right before I voted myself Loki said he was immune to my emotional manipulation when he feel into a different manipulation entirely to what he thought I was doing.
Fidget actually start breaking down my thought process for Loki a bit after my self-vote (tbf if Fidget hadn't gotten killed that would have made my read on her go very south upon seeing that again, it felt like it was deliberately held until after I had attempted to lock in votes). I start lolcatting a bit but then get serious and say to never eliminate Aisa because I was a bit worried I wouldn't get to read the thread after I had gotten voted out. Following that, CSF breaks the illusion and points out that no hammer occurred because the deadline was hard-set and asked why I self-voted, to which I explained that it felt like NAHA and Loki were pre-sorting me scum in bad faith so I wanted to try to lock them into misyeeting me as a sort of lesson.
Cat Scratch then dives into coalition theory claiming scum would want to send a coalition with 1 scum to reduce the pool (obviously untrue given she flipped scum and I believe was backing her own team) and suggests Andante is suspicious for voting team 2 while SRing 3 people there. She then proceeds to try to play good-cop to NAHA's bad-cop by trying to act in defense of me. It was a good plan foiled by necessity. I also ask NAHA why they TR Loki since, after the meta read Loki had on me turned out to be bunk, my opinion on him slingshotted in part due to me hard-defending Loki to ejji, which resulted in my outlook on Loki being in the negative since I was like "maybe ejji was right all along!". CSF asks me to clarify my position on how Fidget and NAHA's beliefs that both teams would fail differed, which actually made a dent in me because a) it wasn't Loki who I was pretty much not engaging on principle att and b) it actually was asked in a way that felt salient. I pull out the ThorHead card (using meta that's seemingly fair except for a key perversion of it that makes it way less trustworthy) on Loki and spell out for CSF my logic for what exactly pinged me from Fidget (for the first of many times).

I then exit tilt-mode and put my vote on Loki with actual meaning behind it. Loki starts trying to take a moral high-ground by claiming his questions are perfectly logical to which I retort they feel shallow and like I have to explain my reads in baby-steps in order for Loki to comprehend them (this gets called out later). I also note I answered similar questions from others because of the lack of a belief that the answers would take more effort than I thought it was worth. I also call out Loki for what I see as shitty gotcha logic because he said he hadn't seen Fidget's scumgame (despite allegedly knowing her main?) but still tried to claim Fidget's posting pattern wasn't AI, in a way that misconstrued me again (claiming I was reading Fidget on post length when it came down to more of a timing and structure issue).
Loki then starts to change tune a little bit, but not much, asking why I had been dodging his questions (which should have been apparent but w/e), complaining that I was answering the questions he was asking when others did it (see reasoning for why I wasn't answering Loki, btw this bit carried on for a while and got rather grating), added more clarification to the meta read (this was actually rather okay compared to the rest of what I was dealing with) by saying I was trying to force a certain leader in the other game (true, but in that case why the drop of the meta read when the TRs I had that Loki listed as reason to drop it, FB and Enchant, I was nowhere close to pushing to be leader here?), and addresses my Fidget read full explanation ( by getting pissed I didn't explain it to him directly). One problem with A LOT of what Loki brought up was it was couched in a lot of complaining; rather than be glad I was making strides to actual answer questions he was asking, he got offended I wasn't responding to him! That's kinda ego-driven and I don't recall too well if he was pushing me as scum for that but if he was that was not very sensible, he literally let his offense of me answering to others before him cloud his judgment (this is starting to feel a bit overly critical and brutal so I'll mention that most if not all of this stuff I'm writing is probably the work of 2 of the bluntest of my 8 facets. I don't normally broach this subject in mafia games but I think it's mandatory to establish I don't feel entirely right being this way about Loki but it's the best way to convey what went down after the fact, I feel like). My other issue was he posted stuff without really thought-matching the other stuff that was going on.
After the brief period of what felt like good-faith posting Loki goes off by doubling down on his "truthfulness", refusal to actually absorb the logic behind my Fidget and NAHA reads diverging, tries to act like me reversing course on Fidget is unreasonable after the astronomical effort Fidget put in to sort when it absolutely wasnt. Fidget then comes in with the mother of all good posts, which included actual effort to bridge to gap between me and Loki, bringing up a good point that Loki continued engaging me well after coming to scumread me. Like, Fidget's posting was phenomenal atp.

Following Fidget's big-damn-hero moment, Loki starts to process "wait, scum!Gamma basically NEVER tries to go against me like this, what gives?" and backs off for a bit. Fidget does start to post arguments for me being scum in response to Loki TRing me, which in honest retrospect feels kinda shitty, Fidget tried to bridge the gap between me and Loki and then goes into providing reason I could be scum? Anyway, I re-enter thread for the first time after the seeming tune-change, and start just tearing into Loki, including constantly railing on about him missing the one post I explained the distinction between my Fidget and NAHA reads in. This was a bit of a dick move alongside the baby-steps explanation thing because it kinda slipped my mind Loki has dyslexia so he called me out on it and I reeled back in response because I could tell I was millimeters from crossing the same moral event horizon I had in Slaughter Hour (...I don't rlly wannna talk about ti). Besides that though I expressed a lot of those parantheticals I put in this post in my breakdown of Loki's posting. Me and Loki go on fighting for a while, until I hit full-on explosion territory which is where the call-out happens. After which, Loki starts seriously thinking I could be town and I decide to stop posting and take a full on thread break for a couple hours because I needed to clear my head and determine whether I felt like my ability to distinguish game elements from personal conflicts was compromised.
I return a few hours later and post a few things in response to posts that occurred since I left. Loki then snaps back into pushing me because "there's no way I should be scumreading him" because I mindlessly left my vote on him, SOMETHING I AM VEERRRRYYY ESTABLISHED TO DO AS TOWN!!!! I retort by saying in order for me to unvote I would need to not feel like I was backing down from the push just to let myself die! I also took offense to Loki pulling the "I'm disappointed if you're town" card which I previously experienceds similar from a very slimy and manipulative player, that Loki should not be emulating.
Fidget flips back into defending me which, again, very concerning that Fidget was basically playing devil's-advocate to whatever happened to be Loki's stance on me at the time, @scum you fucked up by killing her off! Loki then brings out the actual point of me haaving left my vote on him, whihc like, by not actually trying to approach me with any sort of civility and instead hopping to "Gammsa!scum because he parked his vote on me and he know I don't playe like this" made it REALLY hard for me to want to remove my vote. I also bring up that I've never seen Loki play the sort of bad-faith game I'd seen from her this game so I had zero clue whether she would do it as scum, and told her to stop harping on a bout telling the truh because it was starting to appear self-conscious. Loki says she never re-assesses as scum like she did with me because there's no reason to, whihc prompts me to pull a turnabout card on her by saying that just as her townflip would look bad on me, my townflip would look bad on her. I do mention her play is illogical as scum on the base logic I was employing, but her too-quick jump to accusing me again felt like there had to be SOME scum motive to it, whcih I ascribed as being paranoid letting the wagon on me die would result in her becoming the boot in the end. This results in a sort of impasse, where I can't really talk any more sense in Loki because he's stuck on "I can't let go of pushig you if your vote is gonna stay on me" and I'm kinda in a similar position. AAt that point, I decided "fuck it, I can't get any MORE in the hole, let's provide an ultimatum I have no business proposing!" and try to strike the following deal: me and Loki both avoid voting each other for the rest of the first voting stage. I decided on such an ultimatum because it felt like strongarming Loki was the only way to prevent him from continuing to burrow into the same tunnel he'd beeen stuck on for the majority of the phase and hopefully redirect his effort to finding ACTUAL SCUM!

Loki takes a second and then decided to actuallt take me up on my offer. We start actually having civil conversation where he questions why I reassessed and I explain it was because I couldn't quite grok the scum agenda for reconsidering I put out because his play felt absolutely bass-ackwards to what I described. Loki says he has no clue who would be the infiltrator in the group, to which I looked over the activity overview and proposed it could be NAHA or Aisa based on the fact me+Loki had been squaring off for so long with what felt like NOTHING from either of them! CSF also was on the lower end of activity but because of the smattering of good-cop posting he did I ended up discarding the thought she could be scum. I specifically called out that NAHA's group activity was WILDLY lower than their main thread activity, which felt like trying to let Loki drive the MY on me. Loki suggests Aisa and Toog might be scum, which puzzles me a little because I had no inkling of a connection between them, so I asked about it.
Loki then starts questioning why NAHA had volunterred themself as the second vote-out if I flipped scum, which was kinda not the most airtight line of questioning but I think still rustled NAHA's feathers in the right way to get them to start properly alignment telling. NAHA says they wouldn't let themselves be miselimmed if there was still confscum to yeet which prompted Loki to ask who ws confscum from my townflip, which was honestly a completely fair question as while it was obvious to me NAHA meant there was confscum in the group rather than one specific person, it put them on the spot a bit and probably frazzled them. Loki asseerts it's more logical for NAHA to volunteer to be limmed if they're wrong on the SR on me vs. being right, which I don't think is entirely true but I think either that or Loki saying he was going to start fully backing the idea of gamma!town spooked NAHA off of voting me.

At this point I end up with a kick of new energy because my enchant TR I had from very early on that NAHA tried to call TMI I was finally able to actually back because my completed game sample size was large enough I could point to more then just the normal game enchant replaced me in and mayyyybe chromavolan for enchant meta (I never used chromavalon except to page Loki to back my Enchant read at one point). Loki also provided some ISOs of Aisa, 1 town game and 1 scumgame, from which I conclude Aisa's play just from a low-effort meta basis leans town in this game. Aisa comes in and actually pushes Loki a little bit based on Loki being different in squid game (which I think was already rebutted when ejji brought it up?). She also backs a point Fidget made where my fire-and-brimstone read on Andante was not something they expected scum me to be doing. She ALSO also addresses my concern about her lack of presence.
After that and some engagement between Loki and Fidget, as well as me later down the line, Loki drops the first vote for NAHA This results in NAHA dropping a blatant OMGUS on Loki claiming Aisa made good points. Loki and I both basically see right through it though. Fidget also is rightfully skeptical. CSF's posts at this time are basically throwing the softest pitch to explain reads NAHA's way. She also tried to put some extra pressure on Loki.In response to 2 votes being on Loki, I did the same for NAHA. Aisa then removes her Loki vote, causing NAHA to try a last ditch bus on CSF. This does not work out and causes the rest of the people not voting NAHA to vote them. And that's the first vote phase basically summed up!

The second vote phase was way less active. Everyone was under the assumption everyone else was town so theories to who was scum on the other side were kicked around until around the last 48 hours where I decided to vote CSF believing myself the likely pick if scum were to have the control over the vote from no one voting at all. Fidget and Aisa followed and CSF went out with basically no ceremony whatsoever.
I'll be upfront though, I could actually see Aisa maybe being scum. Still feel like it's highly unlikely given how things went down though. Suggesting I could be scum is fucking preposterous though because I feel like my involvement was rather key to getting both the scum yeeted. I will not abide a repeat of Gensokyo where because of people being absolute boneheads and thinking I led votes against scumbuddies twice in a row for minimal gain the trail of the last scum ended up getting completely lost!

[Vivax]

Mafia attacked me.

I received .2 dmg, but didn't die.

Nice
I'm repenting for my warcrimes by eating charred potatoes and raw garlic as breakfast

[Vivax]

Are players notified when they get hit and survive on mafiascum?

[Vivax]

One player sure to have been hit, another one even more sure and claiming to be notified, and one who had role to survive night but has no idea if he was target

Find the imposters, Agatha

[Vivax]

who is Agatha

Survey time:

[ ]

The other imaginary friend besides Lou who makes me type weird stuff lately

[ ] The crime novel author (Christie)
[ ] The neighbours yorkshire terrier

[Vivax]

NDmath literally just said they weren't responsible for the no death night.

I read it as not it for the no deaths, as in 'it' meaning scum . Tunnel vision on ambiguous writing
My hammer is NAI, but it sucked. Made sense for me to use it with my ability before anyone preceded me, as it made me immune at night. Mood was awful. Still is and I don't see why it shouldn't be.

Enchant counterclaiming the save by saying they got targeted. GE and Mala obvivoting me. Can't blame Mala, but I see opportunism in GE.

Haven't quite figured out the dynamics behind BB wagon yet, but I only have half a brain today and just wanna sleep. Dunnstral was very productive in PT.

[Vivax]

Vivax
DIDNT YOU SEE I ASKED YOU MULT TIME I NEEDEE TI HAMMER
YET

Yea, I decided that I had to stop the attitude that got out in the Large, among others. Cause being impossible to scumread is a source of toxicity and I honestly dislike not getting treated as any other player.
So I roleplayed as a trashcan, just like in my first games on MU.

I‘m still obligated to apologize for not respecting that wish. It‘s just more frustrating to me to get TRd than SRd at this point, and having to feel like giving some players pref treatment to avoid insulting them.

tl;dr: Being a shit to restore the balance of powers and I‘m not gonna fault anyone if I get limmed

Still hilarious to be N1 target perhaps, and D2 wagon. It‘s like I claimed third party

[Vivax]

One you don’t know if you were the night 1 target.

Secondly, you legit just hindered my role for the sake of downgrading your own play.
Normally I’d be like whatever, but I legit claimed I needed the hammer in my first post. First.post.

Please tell me how or why town would even do that. It feels like a scum tactic because you legit blocked town from getting something that helps in the future.

If you’re in fact town then you’re just anti town as shit.

If you are scum then bravo you made yourself obv bleeding scum and deserve death.

Being antitown on regular intervals is my meta. I can‘t look like I‘m doing favours to specific players, cause that‘s the opposite of a favour to other players.

I had to bust a bunch of players out of the mindset that we were teaming outside of being a town bloc in several games
Which then gets seen as if I‘m personally attacking them, which I detest because personal wellbeing of others in a game is not a burden I want to carry

In other words, an excessively good person can cause bad if they never revert to less palatable plays

[Vivax]

One you don’t know if you were the night 1 target.

Secondly, you legit just hindered my role for the sake of downgrading your own play.
Normally I’d be like whatever, but I legit claimed I needed the hammer in my first post. First.post.

Please tell me how or why town would even do that. It feels like a scum tactic because you legit blocked town from getting something that helps in the future.

If you’re in fact town then you’re just anti town as shit.

If you are scum then bravo you made yourself obv bleeding scum and deserve death.

Being antitown on regular intervals is my meta. I can‘t look like I‘m doing favours to specific players, cause that‘s the opposite of a favour to other players.

I had to bust a bunch of players out of the mindset that we were teaming outside of being a town bloc in several games
Which then gets seen as if I‘m personally attacking them, which I detest because personal wellbeing of others in a game is not a burden I want to carry

In other words, an excessively good person can cause bad if they never revert to less palatable plays

how about you just...change your meta?

You mean, away from universally townread as town and voluminous as a book at times?
Because it‘s good practice and a source of ideas
And. I just did

[Vivax]

Vivax feels like something i can understand.

Thanks, it‘s a bunch of daoism and noninterference stuff after all
You got wolves in sheep‘s clothing, and sheep in wolves clothing
Can‘t complain about sheep life so far, but...yknow, the mind is made up already and I want my wolfsuit back

[Vivax]

well, maybe not mala

Really? If anything good came out of the hammer is that she superobvitowned

[Vivax]

She super obv-told-the-truth-about-her-PR but mastina feeling so strongly that mala was scum is still ringing in my ear

Interesting wording. One you could think of when having the gun to shoot her with
Touche?

[Vivax]

Ringing in your ear
when you thought about mastina

[Vivax]

Oh, doors. Makes more sense now.
Still cryptic, I‘m not aware of party PT
I just know that this cycle will be grand

[Vivax]

I’d be down to lim Fred, but Vivax is not surviving til endgame because we need to sort that slot ASAP.

I think
Toog might be
Town after all.

You got a temper

[Vivax]

Yeah I’m got a temperature

GETITCUZIMHOT

oh wait

I‘m icy

[Vivax]

Naturally, I try to avoid meltdowns

[Vivax]

And I‘m kinda scared I used the word meltdown here
I apologize again but tbh the vendetta feels a bit silly

[Vivax]

HEAL: Think fast

Sheeping Legends today. Seems like a good plan. The merging mechanic just sends my mind to funny places with what's possible.

VOTE: Fred

Anyway, I can advise looking at my wagon knowing there's one town leading it. I'd be in hammer range for scum and they'd have a free launch if it was all town on it, if I'm not mistaken.

[4]

Fredrick A Campbell

: Nomsy, Sara, Legends[2]
[4]

Vivax

: Malakittens, Gamma Emerald, MeekMeerkat, Yume
[1]

Gamma Emerald

: Vivax
[1]

Sara

: Fredrick A Campbell
[1]

Dunnstral

: marcistar

[4]

Not voting

: tictac, Dunnstral, Enchant, Toogeloo

[Vivax]

Or no, it'd need one more town.

I wouldn't be surprised if the same was true for Fred, honestly. I'm not too confident he's scum but just leaving a wagon on a townie in hammer range is a gambit that can out scum.
I'll say that this looks bad:

VOTE: beeboy

beeboy has really done nothing.

Too comfortable voting off such a simple reason, I suppose.

[Vivax]

Fred do you have motivation to post a readlist ?
Doesn't have to be complete but I only see you hinting at a MK SR (which is a good hint imo)

UNVOTE:

[Vivax]

So...who here is a dragon?

I'm just a lowly peasant sorcerer
My power is drawn from keeping myself a peasant

[Vivax]

A shot rings out!

No one has died!

How many dayvigs jebus
But this was on Legends I presume

[Vivax]

So MMK scum dayvig, Toog town dayvig presumably

[Vivax]

HEAL: Cybernetic shell III

[Vivax]

HEAL: Think fast

Sheeping Legends today. Seems like a good plan. The merging mechanic just sends my mind to funny places with what's possible.

VOTE: Fred

Anyway, I can advise looking at my wagon knowing there's one town leading it. I'd be in hammer range for scum and they'd have a free launch if it was all town on it, if I'm not mistaken.

[4]

Fredrick A Campbell

: Nomsy, Sara, Legends[2]
[4]

Vivax

: Malakittens, Gamma Emerald, MeekMeerkat, Yume
[1]

Gamma Emerald

: Vivax
[1]

Sara

: Fredrick A Campbell
[1]

Dunnstral

: marcistar

[4]

Not voting

: tictac, Dunnstral, Enchant, Toogeloo

why do you think scum woulg qh you?

The faster they hammer, the less they have to do
I don‘t plan on inverting atm

[Vivax]

Everything Vivax posts feels like obvscum

Oh my

I don't understand why nobody wants to misyeet you instead

[Vivax]

If you know what you're doing, do it. If you don't, you haven't solved the puzzle
I'm exhausted and you shouldn't read too much into my unpredictability. Everyone gets mad after being subject to a long con

[Vivax]

But at least tictac unearthed the nomsy mistery
Looking at the damage and who's been profiting off it, the question is if a reboot is deserved

[Vivax]

something feels weird idk

Your first post was weird cause I believed you wanted to bait people into scumreading you
And the entire mafia experience over these months has been weird with me spotting irl cross-references from my games
So yeah..Where was that weirdness when it wasn't 60 seconds to midnight?

[Vivax]

Or maybe your post was so obviously mafia I refused to believe it was on accident?
And just what goes through people's heads these days? Absolutely nobody has a reason to not be infuriated

[Vivax]

Blocked.In.A.Country?
Recognized, how?

[Vivax]

There are quite a few people familiar with TFT so there's no harm in saying this publicly. We are max size.


~Titus

There are three of us in here. And we have a chat with Yume!

The four of us are the anti‐scum team.

-Frog

HAHHAHAA

IF YOU GUYS TRIED TO KILL ME
THATS WHAT YOU GET

i think its these that felt weird to me

Hmm, Legends getting dayvig on third member and shooting Mala? Idk

[Vivax]

VOTE: Fred

Just cause I'm curious about Toogs claim

[Vivax]

But honestly, if that shot was from Legends, it's scum recruiting alert and it might be a play to lim the slot today

[Vivax]

Puppet?

Why is Gamma scum? Feels like a far cry from our last game.

puppet is nomsy
gamma read is cached one.
i was scum last game.

Tic saying nomsy is a puppet of Gamma. Apparently Nomsy is a sus slot

But at least tictac unearthed the nomsy mistery
Looking at the damage and who's been profiting off it, the question is if a reboot is deserved

Wdym he unearthed it?

I have a response to Vivax's mechanical bullshit but I want to see if mala doubles down on being shot or bulletproof.

This might be a two scum caught.

Vivax voting with the wagon we started "because he's curious about Toog's claim" and with his supposeded scumread isn't about curiousity. It's survival.

Going to confer with my other heads but Vivax can die now.

~Titus

Survival cause I want to see Toogs claim about compulsive wagon neighbourizer?
Besides, your slot didn't seem to change yet, are you sure math is in there? Thinking about whether it was a bluff, didn't see modconfirm on reread.

Maybe I should just go back to sheeping my own D1 readslist

[Vivax]

Ah yeah there's the modconfirm.
Looks like tictac is on point and Legends could have changed alignments here.
Tictac is on point anyway judging by how good the information is

VOTE: Legends

[Vivax]

Mod confirm for what?

How is scum able to shoot during the day multiple times? Or was that town this time? Can anybody claim it

Considering we were shot, it's scum.

There is a remote possibility (unlikely) that scum have no nightkill but daykills instead.

We definitely ate todays.

~Titus

lol you don't suggest this as town
Given your previous accuracy, and my role info, I know there's night kills and that the bolded is a fabricated sentence
Maybe Mala is mafia and just claimed dayvig, but then you got shot for the NDmath recruitment

[Vivax]

Actually, I do. I didn't have NDMath exact wording. It triggers the first time we would die, not the first time we're targeted for a kill. Small semantics but one would trigger NDMath ability prior to the vest. The other would trigger NDMath after the vest falling. Our bp doesn't come with modconfirmation while the NDMath ability does.

So yeah we were shot N1 and D2.

What's your info?

~Titus

My info? I know I was immune N1, Enchant claimed getting hit, you are claiming N1 hit. There's no clarity on notifications when getting hit.
Then you claim immunity to 2 KP after absorbing someone who seemed like obvious mafia to me on D1.
Maybe when you switch alignments you get an extra life? I dunno, but I know your game agenda changed on this day.

[Vivax]

You can find reasons for my posts to not make sense all day, because they're not supposed to
You can't see that the attitude is town, but it's fine because now you don't have to ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Vivax]

[9] beeboy :

Nomsy

, Legends[2],

MeekMeerkat

,

NDMath

, Yume,

Gamma Emerald

, Vivax[2]

Usual spice take with hilarious potential for being wrong: Beeboy got mass-bussed cause he was the only one on the team I called town

[Vivax]

Imagine not being 100% sure Mala is town but make it a policy to vote me when the hammer could have given mafia an ability

[Vivax]

If you‘re on me and don‘t locktown her during this day, you slipped your alignment

[Vivax]

I’m down to yeet either vivax or Fred.

The more that vivax is playing it sounds like he was trying to get me to rage to obv town it up

But ugh

I prefer to post goodhearted stuff usually, but the vibes really got killed for me by the neighbourhood picks because I had to see so much disappointment. I got put into a position ‚do this or you suck‘ basically, and that feels like being forced, and when I get forced I don‘t comply.

So I went into rage, not to enrage

you

. I‘d have to lie to say it was some clever ploy when it was an impulsive decision. I feel like shit already since you thought it was meant to hurt your feelings. It really helps when peeps stop assuming I do stuff to hurt their feelings unless I very obviously spell it out in such a way, and posts designed to do that are recognizable from past examples where I lost it

[Vivax]

Spoiler: post 1424 by Legends

Also, while I am not opposed to a Vivax execution, I would like some pressure on Sara as well.

"I am aligned with Vivax and wish to appear as though I am not aligned with Vivax" Fred says.

-Frog

I have kind of decided it is not helpful to make this argument as it doesn't really have a bearing on alignment because any decision to support or oppose a wagon could be interpreted such that the person making the decision is aligned with the player being wagoned.

To make my point simpler to understand, let's have two players with usernames C and B. A wagon forms on C. If B decides to support the wagon on C, it can be argued that B is aligned with C just as you are doing. If B decides to oppose the wagon on C, it can also be argued that B is aligned with C.

If my last paragraph is somehow unclear and yet still more concrete examples are required, I am under the impression someone who understood my last paragraph could give a more concrete example of my argument.

VOTE: Fred

Is this concrete?

[Vivax]

im back :3

So.

If 18 player summoned by trainer (which idk), do you think they share alignments?

i will not tell u my identity but i will tell u i am ur super secret tpr

Mala controls Nomsy then?

I don't know who was the last who suggested Dunn was mafia but I highly doubt that as they've been very vocal about this being a controlled slot

[Vivax]

im back :3

So.

If 18 player summoned by trainer (which idk), do you think they share alignments?

i will not tell u my identity but i will tell u i am ur super secret tpr

Mala controls Nomsy then?

I don't know who was the last who suggested Dunn was mafia but I highly doubt that as they've been very vocal about this being a controlled slot

[Vivax]

When I see your posts, I spot tautological intent Fred

[Vivax]

Does anyone have a player they feel strongly about executing?

I dislike Marcis vote on Dunnstral, but I find it hard to motivate myself to put in more elaborate while I've got the Damocles sword over me

[Vivax]

more elaborate work*

[Vivax]

In any case, your claim is meaningless and you should die anyway for posting a bunch of scummy croop

In any case, your claim is meaningless and you should die anyway for posting a bunch of scummy croop

can you explain why what they did is scummy? i dont see it

If we have a legit counterclaim from Vivax, I'm not sure why no one is bringing that up. We had to pick 3 roles for a reason. I doubt we have two people with the same picks.

If we have a legit counterclaim from Vivax, I'm not sure why no one is bringing that up. We had to pick 3 roles for a reason. I doubt we have two people with the same picks.

i ignored it cuz i thought it was a joke honestly.

are rhey not able to sort themsekves?

My mind is slowly beginning to grasp what Toogeloo could have meant there
If that's true, game could be reduced to five people lol

But more on marci topic, it didn't look like she thought it was a joke from #1052, but it's explained that way in #1082

[Vivax]

Entirety of marci filter is very focused on more scummy slots. Might just be me thinking it but it's begging to get caught ?
Also someone pointed out this making no sense:

from the point i read, i saw a bunch of dunnstral townreads, i agree with that. the vibes he has seen solvey.
i also saw some gamma townreads, i agree with that too. gamma seems too happy to be here to be scum imo.

also i cant wait to see if cakez has any reads i can steal cuz if he does im 100% doing that

Marci is mafya but not even hiding it, one could think!

hello clowns!

someone catch me up im at work rn xoxo

something feels weird idk

Your first post was weird cause I believed you wanted to bait people into scumreading you

In other words, there's peeps I blitz-scumread so quickly that I paranoia myself into thinking they're towns who wanted me to do that to troll me. Happened on MU a bunch of times.

VOTE: marcistar

[Vivax]

Funny as hell cause instapinging you and townreading you anyway is 100% what happened last time

[Vivax]

lol at this whole conversation.

Try shining a light in brightness

[Vivax]

I don't have the luxury of being able to vote out my own extra heads

[Vivax]

I have the questionable benefit of being able to lose my only one during mafia games

[Vivax]

Vivax there's a reason your posts are inscrutable, yes? Can I know the reason?

Overbordering fantasy, compulsive writing, excessive questioning of people's motivations?
Recent reading into philosophy and theological history?

Is that a satisfying self-analysis?

[Vivax]

No I'm not on medication and got the maximum vote on an analysis of psychosis during pharmacology III class
Good luck spotting me have a thorhead when I'm not at a keyboard

[Vivax]

Vivax there's a reason your posts are inscrutable, yes? Can I know the reason?

Overbordering fantasy, compulsive writing, excessive questioning of people's motivations?
Recent reading into philosophy and theological history?

Is that a satisfying self-analysis?

I mean, yes. I was wondering if it was a game reason and now I know it's not

I mean, RL occurrences I sometimes write about in games happened. I have witnesses, pictures, items, weirdos showing up out of nowhere. But I keep most offline. Does make me feel good about metaphysical antirealism though

It‘s like watching some stuff happening on the net getting translated into irl occurrences and it makes you question your sanity. As long as I don‘t behave like a nutso irl I don‘t have problems with being one while writing. It‘s like looking through an inverted mirror

[Vivax]

Thought experiment for nerds: Does earth spin faster while time slows down, correlatively speaking?

[Vivax]

As gratitude for not getting instanthammered, here's some of that overbordering fantasy

You know, I pay attention to when church bells go off. And lately they've started to go off incrementally earlier. Also remember an article about earth momentum increasing a few weeks ago. Think about it.
Maybe Einstein was wrong, light speed decreases and surrounding celestial bodies don't go further because of entropy, we just spot them later because light arrives later to the instruments, suggesting a greater distance.
Time slows until we become frozen and suddenly see life through everyone's eyes at once. Has the collective succeeded in creating a collection of pleasant minds? Or will we still be fighting ourselves over scraps of land and different beliefs?

[Vivax]

Let's make sure Vivax gets the "Malatt" today when they're executed!

-Frog

(ie Mala, mallet, hammer)

-Frog

(I got the pun it was good)

On a scale of 1-10, how humble do you consider yourself?

[Vivax]

Vivax lost last sanity.

Sanity is defined as being within the greater area of a normal distribution. If what you say is true, I have achieved something by paying attention to what wise people said during antiquity, which is to be almost impossible to replicate

[Vivax]

VOTE: Marcistar

VOTE: marcistar

I'm fine with executing marcistar as well.

bet I will
VOTE: marcistar

Mafia outing themselves?
If so, it was a successful day regardless of the outcome
If not, it's going to be a tough game

[Vivax]

Hm

How are you feeling?

[Vivax]

ok eod update done.
nomsy actually pushed beeboy wagon pretty hard, and not like the main gets any cred from it.
gamma looking for alt-yeets, and jumps on last minute.
marci avoiding it, but already admitted to doing so.
think i was right day 1.
VOTE: gamma

current affairs:
set of all possible personage, excluding those not playing this game and also excluding those not using the apallation "fred" using an encoding of their thought-patters, that is perhaps overtly baroque for the concepts expressed therein, yet i get the feeling it's done for jocular aims rather than as camouflage, and sure he get's his degrees of proof mixed using a reasonable doubt stardard to counter a preponderance of evidence argument, but such confusions are not altogether uncommon among mafiasum membership.
in short, i don't have a read there, but i do think he is funny.

meanwhile vivax is on figurative shrooms, and pooping green balls of tinfoil
townread.
(time slowing down is the same thing as space expanding. that was einsteins whole deal.)

as to meek-read, i feel there is a going with the flow quality to his reads, remains a scumlean.

GE is a compulsive retributionist with a big heart but a bit quick to judge and tictacs shroom green balls made me crack up. It‘d suck to see them fight each other (currently at bar and already had to see enough shit from arguments tonight)

Vibes first game second

[Vivax]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Vivax

It's important to note that I know this is E-1, but I do not want to miss forming the big party again.

UNVOTE:
That’s the first thing you’ve posted that’s felt earnest.

Toogeloo claimed scum here with an obvious panic vote after being lulled into false security, while GE went obvitown

How quickly the tables can get turned

Cue the last mod flavour

[Vivax]

Vivax lost last sanity.

Stop being unhappy please. You have the third eye too as we know from terminator, but you know we can't win together this game just like then

[Vivax]

ok eod update done.
nomsy actually pushed beeboy wagon pretty hard, and not like the main gets any cred from it.
gamma looking for alt-yeets, and jumps on last minute.
marci avoiding it, but already admitted to doing so.
think i was right day 1.
VOTE: gamma

current affairs:
set of all possible personage, excluding those not playing this game and also excluding those not using the apallation "fred" using an encoding of their thought-patters, that is perhaps overtly baroque for the concepts expressed therein, yet i get the feeling it's done for jocular aims rather than as camouflage, and sure he get's his degrees of proof mixed using a reasonable doubt stardard to counter a preponderance of evidence argument, but such confusions are not altogether uncommon among mafiasum membership.
in short, i don't have a read there, but i do think he is funny.

meanwhile vivax is on figurative shrooms, and pooping green balls of tinfoil
townread.
(time slowing down is the same thing as space expanding. that was einsteins whole deal.)

as to meek-read, i feel there is a going with the flow quality to his reads, remains a scumlean.

Aand gamma voting themselves I‘d guess
In hyperpeculiar english
But the shroom thing gave them away

[Vivax]

Dunn=Fred
Mala = Nomsy
GE = tictac (and MU‘s bunnelby?)
Frog = MMK
Titus = Sara ? = Alice on MU ?
Toog = ? = Pooky, even?
Enchant = ?
NDmath = ?

[Vivax]

Mala triple account godmother
Enchant, math, yume = unique ? Maybe ench = yume

If not, maybe that‘s the mafia

[Vivax]

get lucifer‘d noobs

[Vivax]

flavor

VOTE COUNT 1.09

[5]

NDMath

: Yume, Vivax, Dunnstral, Toogeloo, MeekMeerkat
[5]

beeboy

: Fredrick A Campbell, Nomsy, Legends[2], Gamma Emerald
[2]

Sara

: Malakittens, Enchant
[1]

Gamma Emerald

: tictac
[1]

Toogeloo

: NDMath

[3]

Not voting

: Sara, beeboy, marcistar

—

Spoiler: Best Friends Tracker

Yume offers to mastina.

Nomsy offers to mastina.

Malakittens offers to Gamma Emerald.

Dunnstral offers to Titus.

MeekMeerkat offers to Gamma Emerald.

Nomsy offers to NDMath.

Nomsy offers to Titus.

NDMath accepts Nomsy. They form a neighborhood.

mastina accepts Yume. They form a neighborhood.

Titus accepts Dunnstral. They form a neighborhood.

Frogsterking offers to Titus.

Frogsterking offers to MeekMeerkat.
Frogsterking offers to Malakittens.

Enchant offers to Malakittens.

mastina dies. Yume may now form another neighborhood.

Yume offers to Titus.
Yume offers to Frogsterking.
Yume offers to Malakittens.
Yume offers to MeekMeerkat.
Yume offers to Vivax.
Yume offers to Toogeloo.

Frogsterking accepts Yume. They form a neighborhood.

Toogeloo offers to Vivax.

Legends forms. Dunnstral and Yume's neighborhoods dissolve. They may now form new neighborhoods.

Legends offers to Yume.

Dunnstral offers to Malakittens.
MeekMeerkat offers to Fredrick A Campbell.
MeekMeerkat offers to Dunnstral.

Yume accepts Legends. They form a neighborhood.

Toogeloo offers to Yume.

Gamma Emerald accepts Malakittens. They form a neighborhood.

Toogeloo offers to Dunnstral.
Toogeloo offers to Malakittens.
Toogeloo offers to Sara.
Toogeloo offers to MeekMeerkat.
Toogeloo offers to beeboy.
Toogeloo offers to SirCakez.
Toogeloo offers to tictac.
Toogeloo offers to Enchant.
Toogeloo offers to Fredrick A Campbell.
Toogeloo offers to NDMath.

tictac accepts Toogeloo. They form a neighborhood.

Dunnstral offers to Vivax

Vivax accepts Dunnstral. they form a neighborhood.

—

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to eliminate.

Day one ends in (expired on 2022-08-29 21:10:21).

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Probs the most relevant VC in the game
Previous list of pairings was just a bunch of slots who postes similarly enough that they could be the same
Anyway, the mafia previously on the math wagon can count on my elim, but not all of them follow suit as it‘d be obvious that the same who were on math would all turn up on me.

So they have to count on townies hammering me.
Would mean marci is not a top elim probably, should just start by shaving off the math voters.
I guess you policy lim me and then keep killing there. Game over? Even MeekMK said scum have uphill battle probs cause he knows this from their perspective