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Glad you had fun Ydrasse!
Hope you have all the fun in the world
I gotta go!ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I am Pi, I am round I don’t take sides
I follow the evidence that I think is right and inevitably reach the conclusion that I said words.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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This.
People should really take a stance on MMR/PPF if they aren’t willing to elim so I know where people want to shoot at bare minimum
But we should be elimming one of them.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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“Something confirmable tomorrow pretty please don’t elim me” is the official title I thinkIn post 3746, Ydrasse wrote:wat is ppf role
(This is a joke. They haven’t claimed but they’ve said this)ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Yeah neither is MMR not voting for PPFIn post 3748, Ydrasse wrote:I’m rolefishing now but that sounds like not a good response to loyal neowhwyeber
It’s why I wanna elim one and vig the other.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Funny thing that.
I gotta work now but I will hammer like NMScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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^^ What RR said
I don’t want to influence town to elim one way or the other. I think we learn a lot, but I think while a Mastina elim would also be good MMR/PPF would be better.
If MMR/PPF = S&S same alignment gambit failed and lmao including for completeness don’t believe that
If MMR/PPF = S&S diff alignments probable then we learn likely but not absolutely who is aligned where
If MMR/PPF = T/S or S/T people can be read by stances
If MMR/PPF = T/T then wtf is this day?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I promise to think about it overnight. I won’t promise one way or the other.
If you’re scum you can’t plan that way
And if you’re town scum won’t know what I do.
Best I can do.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Actually…I just thought of something.
If we assume every premise from MMR is true then scum factional might be roleblocking based on role type/name.
Scum do have non traditional factionals according to the OP.
Or maybe a lightning rod to an ascetic scum?
No one else claim but did anyone else have powers messed up?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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If you didn’t have powers messed up then don’t care not asking about you.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Lightning rod to ascetic scum would work?In post 3765, Past Present Future wrote:
Idk if Mastina’s capable of faking tone like this. She has also lock tr me once as scum but she posted like a robot in that game. Couldn’t there be another role that could possibly explain this?In post 3758, MMR wrote:
What happens if one of us flips Town?In post 3749, MathBlade wrote:
Yeah neither is MMR not voting for PPFIn post 3748, Ydrasse wrote:I’m rolefishing now but that sounds like not a good response to loyal neowhwyeber
It’s why I wanna elim one and vig the other.
I think that you should save your vig shot on mastina if you eliminate us today.
Because, once we flip, it should be obvious that mastina's role has a high chance of being scum's equivalent of our role.
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But then I’d expect multiple people to be complaining their powers didn’t work.
If someone had their powers work then that fails.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Oh wait nope. By definition ascetic lightning rod wouldn’t be able to be targeted.
Mass redirection bypassing ascetic somehow
Or scum alien on PPF?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I’d buy alien on PPF. Doesn’t feel like it from the play though.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Don’t think so.In post 3770, Toogeloo wrote:Was there a plan for MMR to target PPF yesterday? If that was put out into the universe, could some scum-fuckery have caused result issues, especially if PPF is as widely town read as suggested. Some one break down the chain of events. Otherwise, I'm just assuming what I have been.
I am thinking Mastina wanted me dead.
Didn’t think I would claim something confirmable.
PPF is either ascetic or unlucky town.
I lean the first.
Lunar team kills professor
Which means that professor’s other team reads good.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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A team with 2/3rds (or more) DDS/unwd/Fire would kill prof
Prof said he was confirmable with the janitor kill.
I think mainly it’s a matter of if MMR is swapped or unlucky town.
I think the scum teams are going after each other and it’s all for cred.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Crickets are loud damn.In post 3773, MathBlade wrote:A team with 2/3rds (or more) DDS/unwd/Fire would kill prof
Prof said he was confirmable with the janitor kill.
I think mainly it’s a matter of if MMR is swapped or unlucky town.
I think the scum teams are going after each other and it’s all for cred.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Vig target is tomorrowIn post 3779, Toogeloo wrote:Sp how would you do the day, Math, if you had complete control? Vig target, Elim, etc.
I’d have the day fall naturally to test my theory.
One side “wins” and gets their elim.
If I have to pick, I would do it later.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Then why not engage in MMR/PPF even if your vote won’t change?In post 3783, Firebringer wrote:theres things i want to respond to about mastina.
but then i realized thats just going to create more noise.
is it worth engaging.
the answer my shock you:
noScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Where do you stand on MMR/PPF debate?In post 3785, Firebringer wrote:what specifically should i engage with
What would you do in my shoes?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Assume Mastina flips scum then who?In post 3788, Firebringer wrote:
i don't care about MMR.In post 3787, MathBlade wrote:
Where do you stand on MMR/PPF debate?In post 3785, Firebringer wrote:what specifically should i engage with
What would you do in my shoes?
PPF could be scum but im not interested in pursuing. It will self sort either dead in a few days or poe to scum
if i were you, i wouldn't crumb vigi. Then i would have shot mastina
Finally prove all these people like yume who think they can read her wrong
Assume Mastina flips town then who?
(Obviously if we don’t flip Mastina you’d say her)ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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NotedIn post 3790, Firebringer wrote:
i actually don't have a follow up shot.In post 3789, MathBlade wrote:Assume Mastina flips scum then who?
Assume Mastina flips town then who?
(Obviously if we don’t flip Mastina you’d say her)
probably holster till i get another strong scumread
maybe search the consensus null reads of people shoot in thereScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Too many pronouns? Can you please elaborate?In post 3792, Radical Rat wrote:Current mastina wagon definitely contains teammates of MMR and/or PPF. If we hit scum today, that's where I'd recommend a dayvig go, were it up to me.
Of MMR/PPF what are your reads on each?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Can you please explain why you aren’t voting for PPF?In post 3795, MMR wrote:
What makes you think scum won't bus?In post 3792, Radical Rat wrote:Current mastina wagon definitely contains teammates of MMR and/or PPF. If we hit scum today, that's where I'd recommend a dayvig go, were it up to me.
Last time, I saw scum bus, Town ended up losing.
Surely, scum might do that again?
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There is completely so much I disagree with here.In post 3813, mastina wrote:
Well scum wouldn't actually be Loyal, but ultimately, it's very simple:In post 3766, Toogeloo wrote:What motivation does scum Loyal claim a failed action?
MMR is claiming a Loyal investigation on PPF which failed.
This is a noncommittal soft-guilty that they did not breadcrumb and did not attempt to turn into a hard guilty and did not attempt to ask if they were blocked prior to claiming.
If it is taken to be a claim of a guilty, though, then that means there is basically a guaranteed scum in MMR and PPF.
Past Present Future is never scum here, ever. EVER ever.
Ergo, if there is a scum in the two, it is MMR.
The "why they did it" doesn't need to be something we know--they did it.
MMR claimed a noncommittal soft-guilty that they did not breadcrumb and did not attempt to turn into a hard guilty and did not attempt to ask if they were blocked prior to claiming.
This happened, period.
There are many possible motivations behind it.
I have myguesses.
MMR felt boxed in;
MMR thought they could get away with it due to it being a soft-guilty and not eat a death afterwards from "oh well, guess we were roleblocked";
MMR genuinely believes PPF is scum for some reason but is wrong, and believes that an elimination on PPF will have no consequences since fakeclaiming a guilty on opposite scum still gets an opposite scum dead;
MMR knows PPF to be town, but has a role-related reason for wanting to eliminate PPF this day phase (notably, say the same thing which gave scum incentive to push MathBlade/Dingle Dangle Scarecrow yesterday).
But none of those I can really know.
What I do know is that Past Present Future cannot be scum, and therefore, MMR cannot have a real guilty on them.
And analyzing the claim and target and handling of it gives overwhelming reasons for MMR to be scum, with literally theonlyreason for MMR to be town being "scum wouldn't do this"--that's literally it.
Unless you wanna tell me something about MMR that isn't "scum wouldn't do this", that's the legit only reason they have to be town.
Their role itself looks like a scumclaim;
Their handling of it looks like a scumclaim;
Their target selection looks like a scumclaim;
Everything they are doing, looks like scum.
At some point, "scum wouldn't do this" becomes overwhelmed by the mountain of evidence demonstrating that, well. They did.
Can’t post at work.
People waiting on me do shit.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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If you don’t give a damn neither do I is kinda where I am at here.
VOTE: PPF
I think we have to flip one of you. If you flip scum then it tells a lot and if you flip town it tells a lot.
For someone who is “confirmable” you’re just not acting like it.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I tried giving you way more than the 24 hours to be cooperative and to work with people and you’re just not.
So I think we go PPF today. I expect Mastina to be unhappy with this but considering she’s one of the few if not only person to defend PPF then I am okay with elim.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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So you townread me, I have been begging for the bare minimum town!you is capable of, holding off on voting you, trying to cheerlead you and I am unreasonable?
Can you like not?
I have been trying really hard to be cooperative here.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Come vote PPF with me then please?In post 3830, unwnd wrote:Not to me
PPF has been a proponent of the mastina apologists
All I see is redScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I don’t talk with her about mafia outside the thread.In post 3835, Past Present Future wrote:
I told you to talk to your sister, why haven’t you?In post 3828, MathBlade wrote:I tried giving you way more than the 24 hours to be cooperative and to work with people and you’re just not.
So I think we go PPF today. I expect Mastina to be unhappy with this but considering she’s one of the few if not only person to defend PPF then I am okay with elim.
That breaks site rules.
I did talk with her about not mafia things as we are family and anything there is NAI.
This makes me uncomfortable and is close to if not crossing a line please stop.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I agree they have not done any of those things.In post 3838, T-Bone wrote:Bah PPF is tactically the better vote because of their interactions with everyone, especially Mastina.
But MMR has gone beyond simply botching a role claim. While I can believe town can botch a claim, MMR in general trying is to pretend it didn't happen. If I had a role result that implicated another player as scum I would not stop to follow through on it. I feel like everyone else on the playerlist would do so too. It feels like MMR is just hoping we stop talking about their claim. It goes beyond botching a claim. They've had so many days to clarify their claim, lay everything out clearly, and try to lead an elimination based on it and they haven't.
So I think MMR is the correct vote today.
However mechanically I think PPF is correct and I do think that it is SvS
IF MMR is scum then MMR is more likely lunar scum or wants to be elimmed. That this is a deliberate ploy. One that a scum team of them + buddies has to agree on,
Mastina doing a ploy outing crumbs makes way more sense for a scum agreed upon plan than claiming rolestopper then neopolitan.
I don’t think we elim the “cop” in a 1v1
Based on PPF’s flip I can figure out who to vig.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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PPF on the other hand is more likely Solar along with Mastina if my theory holds.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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You realize I was quite for like 3 days deliberately not taking a side until Nancy head said y’all won’t cooperate right?In post 3843, Past Present Future wrote:Math, I don't think you'll actually listen to what I say. Been bit too many times.
I haven't read 90% of the posts here lately as it's mech drowned out again.
It's just little fun to play in a game where I have no sutonomy.
VOTE: MMR
While I'd love to love out Math, there isn't evidence to policy lim him.
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Continuing this here is toxic and unproductive
I have been remiss to express any opinions at all.
I haven’t been leading deliberating and a wagon formed on Mastina.
I think you need to step away and check biases whatever your alignment.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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She did.In post 2841, mastina wrote:The Claim:
Don't expect anything groundbreaking. I've repeatedly reiterated that my claim won't save me. It's important information to have, but it isn't something that makes me any more town and from a surface level can even look more scum.
I'm a Town Limited Astrologer.
During Noons (so, effectively, in normal games, even-night), I check for the attunement of my target.
The attunements in the game are Sun and Moon.
All Solar Cult Members have a Sun attunement;
All Lunar Cult Members have a Moon attunement.
But attunements aren't just for scum.
Some town are sun attuned, some town are moon attuned, and this is not randomly done. (It's a pregame thing apparently.)
Given that, I genuinely don't know the strength of my role. When I confirmed I said "so something between gunsmith and rolecop in strength, I guess", which is about my estimation. It's hard to say, I don't think anyone can really know until we see the whole setup.
My role PM specifies I'm limited in who I can target. (This is the wording I'd expect RR to have.)
I can't target the same player twice (not 'twice in a row', twice at all--once is it). (This part is obviously specific to me.)
But, some things can prevent me from targeting a player. (This is the wording I'd expect RR to have.)
I'll be informed in the event of that. (This is passable as specific to me, given I am an investigative.)
Radical Rat's claim lacking the "limited in who you can target" and "some things can prevent you from targeting" sections, is why I think their claim is suspect.
I'm afraid that's it. I warned you it wasn't groundbreaking, but I've gotten all my thoughts out and shared my info and why I think it implicates RR so I'm done now.
So then MMR is scum trying to take out two people who they believe are not aligned with them or they’re town.
I kinda want Mastina and MMR to sort themselves out.
There’s no reason they can’t check each other or be forced to check the same target,ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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In contrast PPR is demonstrated an unwillingness to cooperate and the other two slots have cooperated even if it’s poorly.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I think all three quite frankly have a chance of being scum here and it’s just picking.
Both of you should be prepared to share your result regardless of PPF flip and assume you will get a limited post or two before I fire between you depending on PPF flip.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Ideally a person both Mastina and MMR TR so then they’re both incentivized for the townfirm but not me. Someone who has longevity.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I think Mastina is genuine true claiming here regardless of alignment.In post 3864, MMR wrote:
Got that.In post 3863, MathBlade wrote:Ideally a person both Mastina and MMR TR so then they’re both incentivized for the townfirm but not me. Someone who has longevity.
And seeing that mastina also claimed Astrologer (I missed that.), I guess that she could be Town because it wouldn't make sense for scum to receive a fakeclaim which is also a TPR.
I'll talk with my hydra partmers before we decide on a vote.
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When scum Mastina pushed me only a limited set of roles would make me back off.
So I don’t doubt her claim.
Just like ironically enough with how bad you’ve played this I don’t doubt your claim.
What I doubt are your alignments.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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So I think forcing you and Mastina to spew gives people information to work off of especially if I die.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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How I think the setup works is each scum team has an astrologer or invest PR to find scum.
MMR scum probably got some sort of invest that makes them think PPF is scum.
Mastina would be the scum invest here
PPR is probably some important scum role.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I don’t know for certain but this is what I feel matches everyone’s play.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Who are your TRs? Outside of Mastina and PPF and me?In post 3873, MMR wrote:
It's because Loyal is embedded in the role.In post 3871, Radical Rat wrote:In post 3864, MMR wrote:
Got that.In post 3863, MathBlade wrote:Ideally a person both Mastina and MMR TR so then they’re both incentivized for the townfirm but not me. Someone who has longevity.
And seeing that mastina also claimed Astrologer (I missed that.), I guess that she could be Town because it wouldn't make sense for scum to receive a fakeclaim which is also a TPR.
I'll talk with my hydra partmers before we decide on a vote.
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Didn't you say you were informed scum had a near identical role? Why would your conclusion be mastina's Town because she isn't fakeclaiming instead of her being scum because she's you? Also Loyal isn't in your name, but Limited IS in mastina's. That discrepancy seems important to me.
It really does just look more and more like you don't believe your own claim...
And yes, I said that scum had a near identical role, but that doesn't mean that only mastina can be it.
I just doubt scum claims a CCable flavour.
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We aren’t elimming Mastina today it looks like?
What’s your point?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Btw based on Mastina’s read wall I think she TR’s Enchant
So let’s get an alignment on a quieter poster.
Do you still TR Enchant Mastina?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Fair, actively said they won’t cooperate?In post 3881, T-Bone wrote:
Cooperated is a strong word for MMR...In post 3861, MathBlade wrote:In contrast PPR is demonstrated an unwillingness to cooperate and the other two slots have cooperated even if it’s poorly.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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V/LA until Monday
I have a trip. Please have someone elimmed by the time I get back.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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NopeIn post 3894, MMR wrote:And actually, I think that we should target each other if we both survive today.
-Rubella
Both should target same person. Don’t care who besides me.
Then both should get same results. Claim in first post,ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Whoever is here while I am on VLA can figure out the ideal target
Ideally we elim PPRScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Astrologer likely exists or a role like it.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Already did.In post 3980, Yume wrote:Also, to those who scumread mastina, show me one game in the past five years where she spammed in the exact manner she does in this game, okay?
You ignored it. Don’t have time to grab it again.
Probably gonna move my vote to MMR today since that’s where everyone is going but I think we’re eliminating the wrong scum.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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My flip will make it clear that one of these roles is likely to exist.In post 3985, Firebringer wrote:
at some point im going to have to sit down and actually figure out these games mechanics. But it won't be this game day. Hopefully i don't have to think about this till post game.In post 3977, MathBlade wrote:Astrologer likely exists or a role like it.
They just don’t have to exist on town.
You’ll see my dilemma when I flip. It will explain a lot.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Intent to vote MMR which will likely result in hammer as people said they are sheeping me will move
Get last thoughts in soon. Probably 30 minutes ish til I voteScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I am on VLA. Won’t be online then.In post 3990, MMR wrote:
This hardly qualifies as intent to hammer. Standard protocol is generally 24 hours.In post 3988, MathBlade wrote:Intent to vote MMR which will likely result in hammer as people said they are sheeping me will move
Get last thoughts in soon. Probably 30 minutes ish til I vote
~Mumps
I also won’t be the actual hammerer.
I am just doing the courtesy of being informative as best I can.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I don’t think spending 3 hours on a questionnaire is ignoring.In post 3992, Firebringer wrote:
ur the one claiming to keep an open mind.In post 3989, Yume wrote:
And you ignored all the reasons we gave why she is town.In post 3984, MathBlade wrote:
Already did.In post 3980, Yume wrote:Also, to those who scumread mastina, show me one game in the past five years where she spammed in the exact manner she does in this game, okay?
You ignored it. Don’t have time to grab it again.
Probably gonna move my vote to MMR today since that’s where everyone is going but I think we’re eliminating the wrong scum.
either have it or don't, but stop pretending u have an open mind
I just disagree.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Mainly Mastina v unwd+FB (maybe?) really seems SvS.
Pedit: Today we are not elimming Mastina so there’s no pointScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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VOTE: MMR
I gotta go.
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Then in that case @DDS we get guilties on Mastina (admittedly soft) and PPF so like???ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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The way I figure is there’s two options:In post 4033, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow wrote:I am here with some thoughts.
Firstly, furtive said a few pages back that elimming mastina both sorts out a ton of 'conflicting' claim info (like, we did this dance with mastina and math last phase) And tones down the thread. I hate that I agree.
Someone else (scarf? I tr scarf ) said that a lot of the pressure to MMR and against a pff vote is coming because certain people are the loudest of the thread. Hard agree too.
I don't tr the PPF slot, I basically never have. I find mastinas explanation of the four reasons MMR could be fake claiming to be incredibly weak.
We have a sneaking suspicion that rh9 has been abandoned by his hdyea mates with a claim that he didn't understand, and they've popped up now because they can't work out why they are about to be miselimed over a guilty!
I don't find mastinas wording about her claim massively convincing anyway. I do think the game is pr heavy with much traffic.
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MMR is town. Informed an Astrologer exists and is likely scum. Implies Mastina scum. Likely guilty on PPF. Majority of players want MMR elim.
MMR is scum. They done goofed.
Neither option is likely given both require absurdities yet one has to be.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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If MMR is town thenIn post 4036, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow wrote:
I'm not really sure what this post is trying to express to meIn post 4028, MathBlade wrote:Then in that case @DDS we get guilties on Mastina (admittedly soft) and PPF so like???
Try rephrasing?
They are informed an astrologer is likely evil. Mastina is claimed astrologer, soft guilty.
They claimed no result on PPF. Because of loyal modifier this is another implied guilty.
Ergo two likely scum if MMR is town.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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No they haven’t? I don’t think?In post 4039, Dingle Dangle Scarecrow wrote:
MMR has backpedaled on this part of their claim.In post 4035, MathBlade wrote:MMR is town. Informed an Astrologer exists and is likely scum.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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They need to die. There’s too much back and forth of what is and isn’t their claim.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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