Legends of the Buisness Company [Staplers Take Over the World]

[Titus]

Hot take: I want to commit arson on the store.

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Not yet but I'm ok voting with him based on my prior slot thoughts + the VCs

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We had 10/11 pages of content and it was fun seeing people grasping at straws without being able to vote. That kind of awkward stage is the best because scum doesn't know what to do, it's not something usual in a game and you want to throw unusual stuff to get unusual results

Now all discussion will be only about you 4 and I feel it's a waste this early

Flag if challenge is T v T

[Titus]

Not yet but I'm ok voting with him based on my prior slot thoughts + the VCs

Have you read any of his posts?

His being Cakez or PP? None in main thread. Reading now

[Titus]

You replaced someone who didn't do very much.

K.

Furtiveglance same answer.

Ignoring prechallenge posts. On page 16, Tbone feels town. Warming up to Lazy/Tryhard

[Titus]

You really believe you just got the scum team in page 16 Pooky?

Your "confidence" is

RIDICULOUS

Hi. I'd like to raise you...

Spoiler: Confidence

Really none but I have before. Don't got a problem there.

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Honestly I'm pretty frustrated by the fact that I can't vote the people I think are scum, but I guess that's just how this game works.

Ok town leaning this.

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VOTE: Cakez
I asked Penguin and yeah, it's weird for Cakez to not make an effort to contribute.

This is hiding disguised as collboration

Making me think Freedom/Cakez S/T so I'd like to wait for Cakez' reappearance

If Cakes is town, furtiveglance moves down.

[Titus]

i will literallt self vote and get myself elimmed if everyonenpromises me to kill shirou afterwards

Pooky, impersonating Drunk Titus is not needed.

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At 29

Going theory of no particular strength

Alisae PP furtiveglance cakez

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I realize this will just make my position worse like every single time ever. But it’s really annoying how i try to get a footing and everyone susses me. Makes me empathic for Cakez. Like what has he done, nothing. But Gamma just thunderdomed them. I also hate the vibes Pooky and to an extent Shirou has created in this game. I’ll be honest, i didn’t really townread Shirou. I just think one of them must be scum and i’d much rather believe it’s Pooky.

VOTE: Pooky

This might be scum. Same with Enchant.

Most everyone else not mentioned in my last two posts is hard town.

[Titus]

I'm coming around Cakez but you'd be the lim by default

At the top of 43

Alisae PP furtiveglance cakez Enchant Hershel and NorwegianboyEE are my suspects.

[Titus]

1116 reads fake. Go through the effort to multiquote and format a reads box but don't give a damn to include all players?

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Reads

Towncore: TSQ, StD, Tbone, Pooky, Gamma, Shirou
Middling: Alisae, SirCakez
Absent: Haschel, Enchant, PP
Scummy: furtiveglance NorwegianboyEE

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Kinda feel like it's SirCakez by default here as I hard TR the other three. This lim would give info but I don't feel good about it.

[Titus]

wait why do you hard TR tbone

Tone. Any reason not to?

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Can you go on about Enchant?

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Reading now.

I object to the characterization of me as "absent" considering the game has been open for barely more than 48 hours. Relative to the pace you all have chosen to set? Sure. Objectively? Fuck all y'all.

*presses the do something button*

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VOTE: SirCakez

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I'm out for the day.

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VOTE: furtiveglance

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Reading up

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I forgot

Rankings
SB
NC
NM
TJ
BM
WP
HH

[Titus]

Somebody talked about using the message function to force people to burn through their money but I can't remember who or where and searching is not helping. Does anybody else remember?

Bookmark

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I forgot

Rankings
SB
NC
NM
TJ
BM
WP
HH

You wanted me to get money? I thought you and your predecessor both somehow scumread me?

I used a scale based on my reads. Each player got a score. Those scores were added to determine rankings. In the event of a tie, I rolled randomly. Hence why I am so low. PP dragged it down.

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titus i hope you'll post more once you've time your slot is one of the most important ones to understand gamestate rn imo

I post less on weekends. IRL

[Titus]

what are your reads, cakez?

enchant town
gamma town
alisae kinda town
t bone town
shirou town

haschel scummish? townish?
norwe idk

penguin kinda scummy
std scumzors
pooky scummish
furtive nullscumish
titus/freedom scummish

StD v Cakez makes me paranoid furtiveglance is a miselimination and it's designed to chain.

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I forgot

Rankings
SB
NC
NM
TJ
BM
WP
HH

You wanted me to get money? I thought you and your predecessor both somehow scumread me?

I used a scale based on my reads. Each player got a score. Those scores were added to determine rankings. In the event of a tie, I rolled randomly. Hence why I am so low. PP dragged it down.

So you didn’t use my method? Okay.

Your method?

I assigned 4 points for strong town down to one point for scumzors

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watch it titus
you might get attacked for not wanting to give yourself money

If I get attacked over the smart thing in a dumb mechanic, oh well. I don't trust PP isn't here or that scum can't control his action and thus ours.

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Feeling rather ill. I'll be back tmo night.

Since we have to vote in this pool, I'd likely go Enchant but I have nagging thoughts in my mind about rereading Aliase and Shiro bc of the tension.

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Haven't read this at all for details but I feel like StD is why me fry me and trying to stir up Cakez.

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Was StD against swapping the initial 4?

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ok so who are we swapping and who are we giving money to

Can we swap Ali in?

fuck no

you're going in

Can you explain?

Hmmm

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If I had a gladiate, I'd challenge NorwegianboyEE but since that's not possible, I'll try to sort this for a bit

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I need to go to sleep I'm tired but I just want to give a very quick summary of what was gonna be part 3 and perhaps the most interesting to me (shame I didn't start with it on hindsight):

> Alisae doesn't seem to have a huge issue with Furtive on "Pooky vs Furtive" 1v1
> Alisae gets the money to team swap
> Alisae begins a 1v1 with the player that called her + titus scum
> Alisae lims Furtive and it flips town
> Alisae still doesn't seem willing whatsoever to reevaluate her gamestate read of "freedom slot is being pushed by scum"
> I say I've an issue with her slot just like Furtive did
> Alisae now once again assumes a not so inactive slot to be town for what is a bit of a flimsy reason and that "pushing they are scummy" even though IT'S LITERALLY partially what she just mislimed a player for

dunno

feels like scumposting to me

Whiteknight with a touch of good cop bad cop perhaps?

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If I had a gladiate, I'd challenge NorwegianboyEE but since that's not possible, I'll try to sort this for a bit

You do have a gladiate, it’s just 2-4 players.

We have a current challenge ongoing....

@StD - Seriously, you've played with me how long and you're acting like you don't know? Knock bloating off with fake dumbtells. I don't have the energy.

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I don't like StD. I'm redoing my reads tonight. Alisae, can you do a readwall?

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Board of Mis-directors vs Hyperpost Meta 2.5

Titus (4) : NorwegianboyEE ,Save The Dragons, Enchant, SirCakez,
Pysche (3): Shirou, PookytheMagicalBear, Alisae,
Alisae (0) :
Shirou (2) :T-Bone, Thestatusquo,

Not Voting (4): Psyche , Titus, Haschel Cedricson, Gamma Emerald,


With 13 Alive, It Takes 7 to Eliminate.
Deadline for challenge is (expired on 2023-02-06 10:45:00)

Mod Notes: Haschel Cedricson has been prodded

I'll be back tonight but seeing no solid townreads on my wagon after calling out scum trying to chain me and furtiveglance is well...

VOTE: Psyche

Feel better here than Shirou.

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Yeah p sure psyche's scum gambling on me not sneaking in our action bc IRL but just made it. Lmao

[Titus]

Yeah p sure psyche's scum gambling on me not sneaking in our action bc IRL but just made it. Lmao

Did he try to pull a fast one?

/me continues to mash the do something button

Not exactly. I suggested an action. We discussed it but he waffled. Neither of us submitted the action. I got it under the wire. Totally plausible scum tried to steal from us thinking my IRL would stop me from bolding in time.

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Pooky and Gamma wouldn't steal from us though, which means either they lied or someone else guarded or both.

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Yeah p sure psyche's scum gambling on me not sneaking in our action bc IRL but just made it. Lmao

Did he try to pull a fast one?

/me continues to mash the do something button

Not exactly. I suggested an action. We discussed it but he waffled. Neither of us submitted the action. I got it under the wire. Totally plausible scum tried to steal from us thinking my IRL would stop me from bolding in time.

I am completely lost here
How do we get this last sentence? How does a wolf!psyche fit in this?

Wolf!Psyche tells his team that we're safe to steal from because town!Titus is swamped IRL and trusted Psyche to submit an action.

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Yeah p sure psyche's scum gambling on me not sneaking in our action bc IRL but just made it. Lmao

Did he try to pull a fast one?

/me continues to mash the do something button

Not exactly. I suggested an action. We discussed it but he waffled. Neither of us submitted the action. I got it under the wire. Totally plausible scum tried to steal from us thinking my IRL would stop me from bolding in time.

I am completely lost here
How do we get this last sentence? How does a wolf!psyche fit in this?

Wolf!Psyche tells his team that we're safe to steal from because town!Titus is swamped IRL and trusted Psyche to submit an action.

if that’s really the play, wouldn’t it be better to like, let them do that? Idunno, I feel like if this happened it would be way more beneficial with how much info it gives village and I feel like it only happens if wolves want to transfer that money to a better slot or a wolf wolf pair

Exactly. I'm not about to go along with a wolf plan.

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Ok but like
how do the keep said plan hidden if that’s what they wanted to do?

?? What do you mean? Who would think it scummy to steal from the team wagoned?

That's specifically why I wanted to guard. I want to see whose reads matched what they said.

Pooky Gamma being flagless is NOT what I expected though.

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It doesn’t matter if they get caught and can’t cross the finish line

That's the move to make now.

I expect massclaim of flags to be fruitful.

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*flag actions

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Who would think it scummy to steal from the team wagoned?

It really would depend on who does it huh

Which is why we claim actions.

We should do a guard steal popcorn. People who stole should leave out their target until all claim guard steal.

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Wow, StD tries to push me dying before we do that. Psyche isn't lying about the discussion FtR. I wasn't around much, but I still view the few posts we had as a discussion and him having a pro stealing opinion.

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Titus let's get it straight:

Was it you or Psyche that "suggested an action"? I'm gonna suppose the "suggestion" was stealing from someone?

Psyche. I wanted guard.

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Why are you accusing psyche of allowing scum to steal from you when you weren't stolen from? Enchant took from Gamma/Pooky yeah?

I am accusing him of

wanting

that. Not that it actually happened because I got here in time.

People need to claim guard or steal.

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Why does Titus vote Psyche before their little kerfuffle

Because I never townread PP or Psyche. They aren't my preferred lim (Norway) but it's always been acceptable.

My reads have been pretty obvious and your post is disingenious to pretend I TRed Psyche/PP.

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I like Psyche being honest in his defense. Scum could 1 v 1 me here, but that's not the route Psyche is taking. I'd like to see Psyche's reads but I'd expect a scum to OMGUS back. Instead, Psyche is just providing context for people to decide from. I still lean towards my theory being correct but Psyche's response has me doubt a bit.

The multiple shifts are also suspicious. We have had more changes than lims. I don't like that. Even if this challenge results in my elimination, enough is enough. I am thinking if scum get run up, then partners suggest a change.

This of course leads me to think one of Alisae/Shiro is scum with Cakez plus StD and then Norway.

That doesn't leave room for Psyche though.

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Why are you accusing psyche of allowing scum to steal from you when you weren't stolen from? Enchant took from Gamma/Pooky yeah?

I am accusing him of

wanting

that. Not that it actually happened because I got here in time.

People need to claim guard or steal.

You’re accusing Psyche to "want it" based on what?

His literal words suggesting stealing is protown.

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hey i might still 1v1 you this is a very slow paced game who knows what will happen

By post volume, that's wrong. By flips it is.

If you do, you do. The fact you didn't jump to it is reassuring. Not as much as reads but it definitely gives me pause. It could be that you feel you can't win it, but I doubt that.

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id be upset at enchant for robbing us but then i remembered fuck it who cares this game is a shit show anyway

Honestly, I'm here. This money mechanic is stupid, slows the game, and gives scum a way out. Instead of actual discussion, it encourages just ramming, not listening and being the first to a thread.

Take this game. It could go on forever unless a team is picked to win and that's a huge fucking distraction from finding scum.

I finally have a theory but what good is pushing my best suspect when I can't reach the thread to challenge. How am I supposed to verify my reads when we don't flip anyone.

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id be upset at enchant for robbing us but then i remembered fuck it who cares this game is a shit show anyway

Honestly, I'm here. This money mechanic is stupid, slows the game, and gives scum a way out. Instead of actual discussion, it encourages just ramming, not listening and being the first to a thread.

Take this flag mini game. It could go on forever unless a team is picked to win and that's a huge fucking distraction from finding scum.

I finally have a theory but what good is pushing my best suspect when I can't reach the thread to challenge. How am I supposed to verify my reads when we don't flip anyone.

Ebwop

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Town!Enchant can be tilting but honestly I can too. Working on that though.

Pooky, can you carry on my reads when I die? Can you save Shiro/Alisae for last since I think that's the only spot where we disagree?

[Titus]

VLA this weekend

Work deadline

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….

Is it really that hard for you to tell me how many posts freedom made in your pt

By my count Freedom made 6, PP made 3 but I counted by hand

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I wanna change the challenge if I played based on my reads but that's legit too damaging at this point. I may sheep a TR and just say that's the lim. Too many chefs in the kitchen and I'm vla this weekend.

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can you paraphrase what freedom and pp said in the PT pls. thx

Sure 1 moment

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Freedom: Wanna wait for flip b4 issue challenge?
Freedom: *skepticism of Ali* no reason provided
Freedom: Furtive 84 is sketchy. *reasons*
PP: Only 2nd time, so I won't be useful for mech. [Quoted post 1]
PP: Huh about 84? Quotes "I can see hated" section [Quote changed to avoid quoting pt]
Freedom: ??? How does he trust scum enough to buy mystery box?
Freedom: Does Cakez normally be a lurksack?
PP: I agree. Cakez comment on gamespeed and throwing in random comments is weird.
Freedom: Furtive is lockscum for he admitted no reason to TR Cakey.

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That's not a quote intended. Not sure why that happened. Oops.

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Too be clear, I didn't quote from PT. I was referring to the quote box.

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@Pooky, why would I make up a conversation when Psyche could deny it? :/

@NorwegianboyEE, I can't lim you.

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The rest of the PT is me saying I'll catch up tonight. My notes on the ranking minigame submission and our guard discussion fwiw.

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it just doesnt sound like what freedom sounds like in a pt at all

I rephrased everything to avoid quoting rules. You know I can't quote. I even referenced Freedom having a Furtiveglance scumread early on based on the PT.

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Not yet but I'm ok voting with him based on my prior slot thoughts + the VCs

Not yet but I'm ok voting with him based on my prior slot thoughts + the VCs

Have you read any of his posts?

His being Cakez or PP? None in main thread. Reading now

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yea i know but from what i remember of freedom in a pt the dude just makes like 600 posts about random ass things that have nothing to do with the game at all. and you're telling me he posted 7 times and its all game related lol.

Yeah he had no one to talk to and he clearly had IRL as evidenced by his post count.

I used to be a bigger poster than I am today too.

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That being said if Psyche denies it, so sweat off my back. Trading 1 for 1 to get a scum is worth it given my IRL

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The only problem we run into is T v T and we're not believed. Otherwise

T v Scum Psyche who denies: Great we get Psyche scum with scum data.
T v T: We're not believed. We get info from scum chaining furtive me Psyche.
T v Scum Psyche: Tells the truth, we aren't believed. Psyche scum flips. VCA data.

So whatever.

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T v Scum Psyche where we're belived and I flip is literally the worst scenario as scum Psyche could get away. So I don't care to defend it any further and would like to talk about reads.

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Mostly PP is why I have doubts but I really don't. Like I said, not a good challenge. If I was rating my preference is psyche, Ali, Shiro but none are good.

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*I really don't think Psyche is scum.

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I don't care if you think I'm town or not. You're not getting me eliminated either way.

And this is why NorwegianboyEE has done jackshit ftr.

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The only agressive votes NorwegianboyEE has cast are 1) in opposition to SirCakez. He votes Pooky who he had a fake fight with. His prior comments were Cakez would make a good vote but when push comes to shove he finds "empathy" and creates a counter.

2) Furtiveglance vote riding wave to easy misrlimination.

No votes on Shiro v Alisae.

Omguses me.

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Where's NorwegianboyEE content lately?

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NorwegianboyEE content early largely seems focused on saving Shiro come to think of it too. His "fake" TR shifting into a real one as needed.

I might just have to reasses Shirou given NorwegianboyEE associatives. Bad to do a preflip but if I'm deciding between bad options well..

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Shea, why are you sure e is scum? I have minor doubts but I want to see if someone else has the same reason.

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Shea you think both e and Shirou are scum?

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i mean it feels like titus is just attacking people who attack her

That's rather bullshit. I've largely been omgused by my scumreads. Minus Enchant (who I TR) most of my scumreads, minus you I SRed first.

I had a solve but literally no one in my solve is eligible so I have to reasses and you're trying to paint this as scummy.

I'm more of an adult now and realize the entire scumteam won't jump on me but to protect slots like you and NorwegianboyEE they would.

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*they would being part of the scumteam.

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UNVOTE: Psyche[/vote]

I don't care if it's childish. I don't want to be on a wagon with StD.

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Oh well, still counts.

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Shea, why should I vote Shiro as opposed to e?

[Titus]

i want more death in order to read the slots im confused about more clearly

How would Psyche's death clear up slots as opposed to Shirou who's been a wagon all game and good flip for VCA?

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Well Titus one of them has 4 votes and the other has 0.

Yeah, I meant case wise. Given the static nature of the game, I could just vote there. I'm not going to vote a TR without a reason I could be wrong. Someone else can move the game along if they have doubts. If I die, I die.

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i mean it feels like titus is just attacking people who attack her

I think thats a pretty uncharitable reading of whats been happening here, especially given the analysis of the last post.

Titus is just trying to characterize all of my play as scummy because i'm scum. Like how is that worth the post it is written on.

Handwaive. No substance. Omgus.

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Freudian slip?

I think the observation that most of your energy in this game has been dedicated to defending shirou even to the point of faking a read on him which slid comfortably into a real town read with very little justification is a very valid point.

Freduian slip lmao.
I'm saying that Titus is just concluding that i'm scum for no other reason than the fact that they concluded i am scum. There is no logic behind it.

I literally just cased you.

What's your e read?

[Titus]

Your read on Alisae.

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Shea, you missed my request for a substantive reason to SR Shiro.

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I mean even if it wouldn’t be a good look a for Shirou regardless of their alignment to swap out they still are the only player with that ability so why gun so hard there.
Also nothing that Pooky seemed to have really toned down recently which is weird.

If you truly belive t v t, why make a post against swapping?

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Shea, you missed my request for a substantive reason to SR Shiro.

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As for my read on Alisae i've said it already.

Detail.

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Shea, you missed my request for a substantive reason to SR Shiro.

I didn't miss it, it would just take more effort for me to do right now than I am willing to put in while I'm just vibing in the thread waiting for my laundry to be done so I can head out.

I'd suggest you read the most recent posts in my iso and just ctrl f shirou because I go into depth about the read quite a bit and also probably iso him too for his response to me. That will probably give you a pretty good understanding of how I feel.

Fair. Don't need you to repeat yourself. I know where to look now. Ty.

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Norwee how do you feel about Shirou's Alisae read then, given that your read appears to be entirely based on meta and shirou doesn't have any meta experience with Alisae at all.

Do you think you would town read eir this game if you didn't have meta experience?

VOTE: Shrou

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can you compromise or not norwee

if i'm such a town read for you the answer should be obvious but i don't feel like you're really helping me not to die here so far

it does sound a bit like you want the credit of being right on me when i flip to be quite honest but idk maybe you're just that tunneled on titus

p-edit: lol

He has no desire to help out, regardless of your alignment. Scum him wants me dead regardless.. Scum him with you as partner wants me dead moreso. Scum him if he loses and you're town well he gets i told you so.

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why do you think that both psyche and titus aren't scum together when their PT according to pooky is kinda sus for freedom not having posted too much plus Titus just suddenly said she doesn't wanna vote psyche bc StD is on it or whatever?

p-edit: AND YOU AREN'T TRYING TO HELP???

Dude, he's just scum. Dunno if you're distancing but if I am lucky I am challenging him tmo.

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if psyche and titus r both scum it doesnt matter what order we kill them in

true but the game started to get weird when psyche wagon showed up not titus

people are pulling stuff from their ass to not vote psyche by this point

i didn't have a preference before but i do have a preference right now and it's psyche

i want to kill psyche now. that's it.

Examples?

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if psyche and titus r both scum it doesnt matter what order we kill them in

true but the game started to get weird when psyche wagon showed up not titus

people are pulling stuff from their ass to not vote psyche by this point

i didn't have a preference before but i do have a preference right now and it's psyche

i want to kill psyche now. that's it.

Examples?

your fucking ISO

I voted Psyche before....

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if psyche and titus r both scum it doesnt matter what order we kill them in

true but the game started to get weird when psyche wagon showed up not titus

people are pulling stuff from their ass to not vote psyche by this point

i didn't have a preference before but i do have a preference right now and it's psyche

i want to kill psyche now. that's it.

Examples?

your fucking ISO

I voted Psyche before....

so why wont you vote psyche now

Because Shirou gives more for VCA imo. I would hammer Psyche but as of now Shirou is my preferred lim. I'd prefer Norway v StD v Cakez but hey can't always get what we want.