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hello welcome to mafiascum don't mind the messIn post 15, Black wrote: Hi everyone. I'm new here, but not really new to Mafia. I haven't played in a long time so I'll have to relearn some things. GL all!-
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I wanna townread this, can I townread this?In post 22, Mistyx wrote: hahahaha FOOLS
You scum know not what you are dealing with. Prepare to face the wrath of Mistyx the Mighty, carrier of villages, ender of scum! Tremble before me!-
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what 'what'. are you freezed up scum, furtive?-
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ah
black made a joke on red's joke of never trusting dwarves. since dwarves are a race, 'never trust dwarves' is essentially racist. if dwarves were real.-
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this is the color game
black
red
ugh, yeah there's those two. and there's fire(bringer), and we all know fire is red-
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<3In post 32, Black wrote:
Thanks! I was pleasantly surprised when I stumbled here and saw how active it isIn post 25, Gimli wrote:
hello welcome to mafiascum don't mind the messIn post 15, Black wrote: Hi everyone. I'm new here, but not really new to Mafia. I haven't played in a long time so I'll have to relearn some things. GL all!
it is a fun and warming place until it's kinda... not, but by that time you're already addicted and burnt out from playing at the same time, it's a vibe.-
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I'm not helping scum
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furtive do you have strong reads you wanna share?-
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VOTE: furtive-
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I want to feel how frozen up this furtive's early start really is so I threw a stupid question in his directionIn post 39, redFF wrote:
After 1 page ?In post 36, Gimli wrote: furtive do you have strong reads you wanna share?
his answer was still rigid as ice so I'm thinking he is still >rand mafia
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I'm not townreading it yet, I asked permissionIn post 40, VP Baltar wrote:
Why are you townreading it?In post 26, Gimli wrote:
I wanna townread this, can I townread this?In post 22, Mistyx wrote: hahahaha FOOLS
You scum know not what you are dealing with. Prepare to face the wrath of Mistyx the Mighty, carrier of villages, ender of scum! Tremble before me!
but it's that early firey thing that I associate with being town, you know
also hi baltar sorry for pairs mafia-
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I like this from ari, I think it's towny on an otherwise readless state of affairs (page 3)In post 73, Aristeia wrote:
I have a feeling this is something that actually happenedIn post 45, Firebringer wrote:
Now I ask to be named king of this thread. I have already taken over the scum PT by spamming it to death while DATISI forever in how long he takes to start games, sat idly by.
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I don't wanna be too focused furtive, but I'm concerned with the level of fluff not going down at any point, I think it makes it easy for mafia and he is posting too much but nothing is game advancing content.In post 75, furtiveglance wrote:
I misread this as Fire spamming the word DATISI initiallyIn post 73, Aristeia wrote:
I have a feeling this is something that actually happenedIn post 45, Firebringer wrote:
Now I ask to be named king of this thread. I have already taken over the scum PT by spamming it to death while DATISI forever in how long he takes to start games, sat idly by.
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hi fire from lycan how are you
was this RVS vote or did it have a read attached to it?-
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maybe but I think it was a good postIn post 111, Aristeia wrote: Morning Tweet voting unvoting and voting again in the same post feels performative.-
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no I think town furtive would drop a read or two by that point. there's game advancing content all over. IDK I don't like itIn post 155, petapan wrote:the game has been open for less than 6 hours-
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peta hates contentIn post 139, Black wrote: I agree with Petapan, but I don't necessarily think it's a scum tell. I've been guilty of trying to move past the early game joke phase in this way before-
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we dwarves are natural riders don't you worry about it mladyIn post 161, Aristeia wrote: are you sure you need to put on so much armor? your horse looks like it's dying under the weight.
edit: no man she is talking to me. she is not?-
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my goodness...His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!"-
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thanks for not being racist
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two thingsIn post 176, Black wrote: UNVOTE: redFF
I'm no longer convinced he's racist against Dwarves.
Interesting case against Gimli though. There were lots of people posting early and no one was really advancing the game, yet for some reason he only picked on furtive
I know furtive and I know he goes hard early as town. this is uncharacteristic I promise you.
out of all top posters he is the only one who didn't drop a single read in those pages when other people were doing that. he was ignoring the mafia playing parts of the conversation.
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neither ari nor morning tweet's posts wrt firebringer felt like complete jokes to me, or there's an element of it that's inside the game and not NAI fluff anyway.In post 179, Black wrote: I will say the "reads" other posters were making came across as jokes to me. Is a joke read better than no read at all?
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watch furtive replacing into this gameIn post 195, VP Baltar wrote:
You have examples of furtive going hard early?In post 178, Gimli wrote:
two thingsIn post 176, Black wrote: UNVOTE: redFF
I'm no longer convinced he's racist against Dwarves.
Interesting case against Gimli though. There were lots of people posting early and no one was really advancing the game, yet for some reason he only picked on furtive
I know furtive and I know he goes hard early as town. this is uncharacteristic I promise you.
out of all top posters he is the only one who didn't drop a single read in those pages when other people were doing that. he was ignoring the mafia playing parts of the conversation.
check his ISO to see for yourself
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and this one
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and this brilliant showing
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I don't see that guy just coming in here and not making a read. I never saw him play as mafia before so IDK what to expect but maybe this is it?
okay. I wanna stop talking about this subject for now but ask me anything-
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hi mr firebringer can I sheep your reads?In post 194, Firebringer wrote:
i would also like to point out to the crowd that MT vote and suspicion on me is serious as stated by herself.In post 184, Klick wrote: It didn't feel uncharacteristic of Morning Tweet's personality to me
Like I think MT does it to amuse herself more than anything
Klick characterization of it doesn't hold up to actual scrutiny. So he either isn't paying attention or just looking for ways to call it town because he knows MT is town.
I don't think klick isn't paying attention. I think klick sees town MT voting me and is like "yeah gonna call MT town here while pretending to be solving" and doesn't actually perform the town analysis he would do.
Also I think town klick would have called me out on page 2-3 to be serious and he didn't. Low level analysis equals scum klick.
Wow i am actually super confident in this.
I best not try hard to omuch this early or i will wear myself out.
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I mean. that's my experience with furtive. we never played from scratch a completed game yet. I can't post anything that's ongoing, so this is what I have.In post 221, petapan wrote:
are you seriously posting two 1000+ post replace ins as a comp to this gameIn post 201, Gimli wrote:watch furtive replacing into this game
viewtopic.php?sid=&f=23&t=90243&user_select%5B%5D=36433
and this one
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and this brilliant showing
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I don't see that guy just coming in here and not making a read. I never saw him play as mafia before so IDK what to expect but maybe this is it?
okay. I wanna stop talking about this subject for now but ask me anything
do you not have an inkling of why his play might be different between the two-
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yeah? you think it's scummy?-
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I'm fine spending my entire d1 responding things about furtive, he is one of my favorites
speaking of which, he kinda disappeared after page 4, didn't he. I think he is more active than that in general.-
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hi CSF, we meet againIn post 252, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: I kind of think Gimli believes in what he's saying even if I'm not really feeling his furtive push-
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agreedIn post 255, Mistyx wrote: cakez taly gut town
i don't really like vp's posts so far it seems like he's just trying to cast doubt on standing reads without providing any of his own
VOTE: VP Baltar
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VPB is another player I'm half expecting to go hard and play faster than whatever he did so far
here he is asking things but not progressing or talking to people, it's odd-
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my fervence?In post 272, Taly wrote:
your fervence with the furtive Sr and wagon on VP feel misalignedIn post 263, Gimli wrote: VPB is another player I'm half expecting to go hard and play faster than whatever he did so far
here he is asking things but not progressing or talking to people, it's odd-
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hi that's cuteIn post 270, furtiveglance wrote:
I was outIn post 253, Gimli wrote: I'm fine spending my entire d1 responding things about furtive, he is one of my favorites
speaking of which, he kinda disappeared after page 4, didn't he. I think he is more active than that in general.
I would say I have a life but I was just playing mafia IRL so eh
Yeah there was no content to go off so I just posted randomly
It is what I usually do
I never played mafia IRL
did you rand scum rl? how does it feel to lie to people's faces?
also I'd like to have someone to bounce reads off of since I don't know much of the playerlist-
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there's a big difference between what you know of a player and the things you are allowed to link about that player
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also strength =/= the other thing you said. I'm not sure I get it. you're saying I'm supposed to be scumreading VPB more than furtive? I mean, it's not the same player, I don't expect the same things. but I have one game with baltar, in pairs mafia, and his d1 pre-dance whatever was fair there as town. but idk much else about him.-
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I'm not drawing a proper read from MTs posts. I think his first reactions to fire felt good (the 'performative' post) and it mirrored some things I thought about fire, like when he started to pivot from scumclaiming it felt awkward. other than that IDK. I think ari's treatment of the slot is towny.
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confident is a big wordIn post 284, Taly wrote: the timing is just odd to me gimli
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I'm not confidently scumreading furtive. I didn't vibe with his early posts, he felt different from what I know of him, I explained many times in different manners, and the reason I keep talking about it is because it's become a point people tag and ask like you're doing now.In post 292, Taly wrote: how do you describe it then-
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town points for you townreading me while insulting meIn post 316, Alisae wrote:
Gimli - seems like villager playing rvs based on furtive push. In general the whole thing just screams a villager trying to find some footing into the game.
The honesty behind his question being bad and him playing mafia in a stupid way is likely villager indicative.
With this in mind I think 153 screams villager brain as he seems too caught up in what he's currently doing to realize that what he is saying is just completely asinine.
what about VP you think is towny in the way he is engaging with the thread? he feels a little detached actually
I like your other comments cause you're reading people from peculiar angles that I think is more likely to come from town, some of them going directly against thread consensus like townreading klick's #184
I feel that, wrt that post, klick has gotten scumread by people assuming #184 was sort of a townread (myself included even though I didn't post anything about it), but after their explanation I understand it wasn't so, and I like how they're reacting to pressure.-
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yeah. that.In post 318, Alisae wrote: I don't really see how Fire got Klick thinks MT is town from Klick's 184 so like I disagree with the premise of the push entirely. I'm not going to say I don't understand where he is coming from because I think I can but I feel like that alone isn't enough for me personally-
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CSF has good takes and I'm tentatively townreading them-
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ali/ari/black/fire is my early towncore, I may or may not expand on why I'm reading all these people as towny in a bit
I think furtive has been alright but not enough for me to townread him... yet, I expect that to change one way or another in the following days
I'm not sure if I understood taly's point of view with regards to me moving to baltar when I was seemingly scumreading furtive 'confidently', I don't know if that works as a dissonance or how that read formed, but she's also been the one asking me about other players and helping me move my content from that point to other game advancing points so, I liked that. I also feel they've been firey in general and interacting a lot with the thread in a way I perceive as towny just trying to work the game out. so maybe taly should be in the towncore as well but, let the potato rest on this read for a couple of hours.
I like what CSF posted so far in terms of agreeing with their stances, but they're not hard things to point out as a wolf so they're still kind of a null read.
the rest is null-ish, except that I don't like baltar's lack of involvement and I don't like redFF, I think his content is a dumpster fire so far and he is orbiting around scumreading me for my furtive stances, seems like an easy thing to do just coasting on the sidelines and fixating on an apparently logical scumread while being completely detached from the game otherwise
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@black as the game progresses, my reads go to different places. do you want me to still talk about furtive's early play?-
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I just said why, I think redFF is scummy. my reads on these other players are related to thread activity and, in furtive's case can be explained by mood. my read on FF is that the way he is engaging with the thread is scummy because he hasn't done anything and what he did was a bad read that was repeated by half the game.In post 420, Black wrote:
No, I think you have said enough there. Could you maybe provide some insight on why you think red is a better vote than furtive or VPB?In post 418, Gimli wrote: @black as the game progresses, my reads go to different places. do you want me to still talk about furtive's early play?-
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Sorry I zoned out of this game and there's a lot of pages to read now, I'll pretty much do it later-
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hi I feel extremely burnt out, this just isn't a good game size for me rn.
was someone pushing me?In post 1121, SirCakez wrote: ugh Fire and Ari are actually making good points
im moving my vote this post pinged me a bit ago
this feels like scum worried about being pushed for not postingIn post 1032, Gimli wrote: Sorry I zoned out of this game and there's a lot of pages to read now, I'll pretty much do it later
VOTE: gimli-
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knowing asri's main I think that's how they speak, just weird and riddled and potatoes. had them as null when I was still paying attention to this, and I don't think the post I'm quoting means anything wrt their alignmentIn post 1111, Black wrote:
I'm just not sure if this is bad scum play or bad town playIn post 1109, VP Baltar wrote:
You can vote here still.In post 1102, Black wrote:In post 1101, Asri Teroka wrote: This one thinks Radiance's Infected likely includes Black, Baltar, Sir of the Cakez and the Furtive One.
This one isn't saying why, isn't even sure whether they will! This one is tired. Maybe later this will explain? Maybe not.
big nothingburger just to say you (vp and black) might be scumreading something that's player personality and not alignment indicative-
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ari vs cakez feel like TvT, I get the impression both are genuinely upset and frustrated and missing each other POVs-
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yeah I think there's opportunistic scum in cakez wagon and I have no idea how people can actually be scumreading cakez outside of ari-
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this is a bunch of red flagsIn post 1064, redFF wrote: VOTE: sircakez
I buy ari's meta read and i was gonna vote last night but wanted to see what he came back to the thread with. He's reading like frustrated scum. And the jump on ari for "no content" was arbitrary, feels like he coulda picked a number of people to go at for no content.
are we still wagoning redFF? cause maybe we should be
"cakez is frustrated, I wanna read that he is scummy for it, I'll call him frustrated scum"-
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VOTE: VPB
I'm going back to this. I don't like how they're treating asri, it feels like wanting to read asri's weirdness as scummy things when they're just being obtuse, which I think is more like a towny style to be posting reads without explaining and then going 'i dont want to explain them' etc
I misread VPB quite horribly in pairs mafia in many parts of that game, but he was actually incredibly towny throughout and I'm just horrible at the game, so. but this time he does feel slimy for real-
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and I can go redFF at any time as well just say the word fellas-
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I'm giving a pass to black doing the same thing cause it feels more like evaluating and not really jumping to conclusionsIn post 1147, Gimli wrote: VOTE: VPB
I'm going back to this. I don't like how they're treating asri, it feels like wanting to read asri's weirdness as scummy things when they're just being obtuse, which I think is more like a towny style to be posting reads without explaining and then going 'i dont want to explain them' etc
I misread VPB quite horribly in pairs mafia in many parts of that game, but he was actually incredibly towny throughout and I'm just horrible at the game, so. but this time he does feel slimy for real-
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not aristeia thoughIn post 1152, Black wrote:
I'm still not confident in any of my reads but if the day ended right now I would vote you or AristeiaIn post 1146, furtiveglance wrote: Black who is your main suspect don't say me-
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should I be strong TRing petapan? maybe
ali/ari/black/cakez/fire/peta?/taly all town
I may have forgotten someone
new names in this: cakez, just too genuine speaking his mind, rolling with the thread flow and interacting in a way I think is very town indicative
peta, I like the VPB push, I think VPB looks bad in those exchanges as well, and I like the way he is evaluating me re: confident but potato read on furtive. I think it's progressing well from a tentative townread to scumpool since I didn't do anything so, it makes sense.-
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