Demon Slayer - Kimetsu no Yaiba (Game over)

[GuyInFreezer]

I’m also a third party but my wincon says there can be only one third party alive.

VOTE: Enchant

[GuyInFreezer]

What happens if condemner’s target is revived

[GuyInFreezer]

Page 1 and I already lockdown’d GuyInFreezer. It’s going well so far.

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: IceDragon70

[GuyInFreezer]

It's not a good look to make a serious vote and immediately back down once questioned.

Guess I'll be holding you at swordpoint for a while.

VOTE: Ice

^

[GuyInFreezer]

I have an illegal hard page 3 townread on furtiv.
What do

[GuyInFreezer]

What game in particular caused you to change your mind?

[GuyInFreezer]

You mentioned this is closer to his town game than scum game. Which of his town game did you have in mind when you made that comparison?

[GuyInFreezer]

Versus his scumgame.

If it was that obvious enough for you to have your read change it after rereading a 6-posts iso, I wanna see it too because I like easy reads.

[GuyInFreezer]

Looks like my gambit paid off

Now that we all agree I'm locktown forever, what shall we do?

Vote Ice with me.
I’m also locktown in my eyes.

[GuyInFreezer]

I have an illegal hard page 3 townread on furtiv.
What do

Repent for you have sinned

I wasn’t asking about the illegal part
I was asking about the townread part

[GuyInFreezer]

Towngame:

viewtopic.php?sid=&f=11&t=90503&user_select%5B%5D=36433

Scumgame:

viewtopic.php?sid=&f=51&t=90542&user_select%5B%5D=36433

BTW I didn't say that Furtive is a lock town read as you are implying, just that I re-evaluated and I can't say they are as scummy as I initially thought.

Is that the first town game you had in mind when you were re-evaluating?

[GuyInFreezer]

I have an illegal hard page 3 townread on furtiv.
What do

Repent for you have sinned

I wasn’t asking about the illegal part
I was asking about the townread part

I have only been town with Furt, but still think he is scum every game.

So either I will tunnel him in hopes that finally my gut is right, or just blindly sheep him until in hopes I don't go down in a flaming shit storm.

Unless I get culted, then all bets are off, sorry ol chap.

So does your gut says he’s scum now?

[GuyInFreezer]

But I wanted to try something new

[GuyInFreezer]

But I wanted to try something new

do u actually think ur going to sort furtive or anyone who is giving a take on furtive prior to page 10.

cause all this looks pretty pointless to me

Don’t tell anyone but I’m actually just memeing with furtive reads.

[GuyInFreezer]

My Ice vote might turn serious depends on how he answer things though

[GuyInFreezer]

Can I take that chocolate instead

[GuyInFreezer]

fuck I was trying to write I in brackets but instead it became formatting. How do I fix this?

You can’t iirc.

Also in your pov what is town furtive like vs scum furtive

[GuyInFreezer]

i do have something spicy i want to reveal about my role later today, but it isn't miller. I want to tease that out there because it is pretty spicy.

Whatever you were gonna claim replace that with PGO instead. I bet that would be even more spicy

[GuyInFreezer]

everything else is like dart throwing and she put me in townie.

Well you're right about the dart throwing, but actually, nobody is town until furtiveglance in that readslist; nobody a scumread until BlueSnakelet. Even those tiers are weakly so.

{IceDragon70}
{GuyInFreezer}
{furtiveglance, Firebringer}
{Pink Ball, Doctor Drew}
{Enchant}
{Klickwork}
{BlueSnakelet}
{hebichan}
{Black}

Why BlueSnakelet?

[GuyInFreezer]

everything else is like dart throwing and she put me in townie.

Well you're right about the dart throwing, but actually, nobody is town until furtiveglance in that readslist; nobody a scumread until BlueSnakelet. Even those tiers are weakly so.

{IceDragon70}
{GuyInFreezer}
{furtiveglance, Firebringer}
{Pink Ball, Doctor Drew}
{Enchant}
{Klickwork}
{BlueSnakelet}
{hebichan}
{Black}

Why BlueSnakelet?

She's just saying that Blue and below are weak scumreads, whereas the ones between blue and furtive are presumably null.

I’m aware. I’m asking why she scumreads Blue.

[GuyInFreezer]

Locktowning Mo.
Sue me.

[GuyInFreezer]

UNVOTE:

[GuyInFreezer]

i like grandpamo entrance
and GIF needs to back off, I call dibs on pocketing grandpamo

You snooze you lose

[GuyInFreezer]

So I finished base game part of Fallout 4 in my path of 100% cheevo grind.
Siding with BoS was the worst I've ever done in a video game. Why does Liberty Prime walk too goddamn slow???

[GuyInFreezer]

So I finished base game part of Fallout 4 in my path of 100% cheevo grind.
Siding with BoS was the worst I've ever done in a video game. Why does Liberty Prime walk too goddamn slow???

VOTE: GuyInFreezer

Only throw stones at me if you actually enjoyed following Liberty Prime for like 30 minutes while tapping W slightly the whole time.

[GuyInFreezer]

Hello user GuyInFreezer
can I get you to vote Imaginality?

Sure

VOTE: Imaginality

[GuyInFreezer]

In all seriousness, I just played in the game imaginality mentioned they won as Serial Killer. They came under pressure D1 and responded in a serious manner. I think it would be weird if they just caved and self-voted as scum in this game.

Not a 100% locktown but it's a townread.

I think it would be weird if anyone caved and self-vote as scum in this game.

[GuyInFreezer]

btw have I said I townread Ranger?
Cos I do.

[GuyInFreezer]

With easy townreads like this maybe this game is going to be not so terrible.

[GuyInFreezer]

I wish I had games played to base my stuff with.
I haven't play mafia games in like 2 years.

[GuyInFreezer]

Also I wouldn't be terribly against BlueStnakelet but this kinda gives me pause.

I get the hint.

VOTE: Imaginality

snek

(Stop wagoning this town player)

ok

UNVOTE: Imaginality

Would scum do this this blatantly?

[GuyInFreezer]

As in progress report?
I kinda skimmed because the page count doubled when I came back.
Also I’m on my ego trip rn due to all the townreads on me

[GuyInFreezer]

As in progress report?
I kinda skimmed because the page count doubled when I came back.
Also I’m on my ego trip rn due to all the townreads on me

ok sowe are in the same boat? kk

like i told ranger, ill read u day 2<3

Btw if you really want to read me you want to sort me D1. I get exponentially lazier every day.

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh yeah also Firebringer is probably “scum” too.

[GuyInFreezer]

ok im back

hi back im dad

im grandpa

now update me

actually i dont want to hear from u . i dont trust u

dont say no further

Wut

Explain?

i havent looked at klicked and i feel like they have been on the emerging perspective , but it feels like they are attacking this game too fast paced idk

Wut.....again.

Really don't know what you are saying here.

like think about it. klick doesnt talk for majority of the game, and now they are an active part of the game? that means they are in a emerging perspectie (someone who wants to start being more active) now that is more of the nai part. the POSSIBLE ai part is that they are emerging too fast, meaning they are out there too fast and wanting to draw attention to certain areas of the game.

do u know what i mean now?

This may come at surprise chief

But it’s only been 36 hours since the game started.

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: gif

[GuyInFreezer]

Ah yes that famous tradition where scum question weak points in someone's posts and town don't?
Me asking about this questionable point in your post is entirely NAI.

Eww this has this “You have no proof” vibe all over it

[GuyInFreezer]

Can I 1v1 someone

You can 1v1 me
Although I won’t really do the “v1” part so you’d just be 1ing me instead

[GuyInFreezer]

You know I had a feeling that this is quickly becoming a typical old gen vs new gen, so I checked Imaginality’s join date.

And everything made sense.

[GuyInFreezer]

Speaking if join date goddamn I’ve been on this site for 10 years now

[GuyInFreezer]

What happened in the game for it to be abandoned?
Abandoned games are something that doesn’t happen often

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh yeah also Firebringer is probably “scum” too.

Hi Guy, interested in your reasons for this

Just a clarification that’s me calling him town (don’t tell him though he gon be mad). Reason is just a vibe in general though. There is also this thing about natural transition between memeing and playing the game but that’s kinda minor.

[GuyInFreezer]

I prefer my food plain anyway.

[GuyInFreezer]

You know I had a feeling that this is quickly becoming a typical old gen vs new gen, so I checked Imaginality’s join date.

And everything made sense.

Are you townreading them now or just explaining some confusion? Cause I don't have an old vs new style bias cause I was bad back then too and I still like this wagon.

Ask me again in 10 pages and I’ll answer then if I don’t answer this before then.

Also by old I meant pre-2010 old. People from those days tends to have different ideas on how to approach the game compares to people now.

[GuyInFreezer]

TouhouInFreezer

[GuyInFreezer]

First

[GuyInFreezer]

If I knew there was gonna be a lim while I was sleeping I would’ve unvoted

[GuyInFreezer]

With that said, I hope some of y’all spent night actions on me to sort me or something, because I’m going to start commuting every night.

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: BlueSnakelet

[GuyInFreezer]

The night kills are very lol btw
Two nonposters died

[GuyInFreezer]

Don't want to speculate too much about that, but if there's a flipped player that shows that playerlist's order is important, maybe there's a kind of restriction there for the nightkills?

I kinda want massclaim of demon/humanness

[GuyInFreezer]

Don't want to speculate too much about that, but if there's a flipped player that shows that playerlist's order is important, maybe there's a kind of restriction there for the nightkills?

I’ll say why if it happens
I kinda want massclaim of demon/humanness

Why?

[GuyInFreezer]

Oops.

“I’ll say why if it happens” is what I said

[GuyInFreezer]

Actually I’m gonna just say it.
I think the night kills are made by demon because they chose safe kills that wouldn’t be stopped.
So I was gonna suggest limming from demons if the massclaim happened.

[GuyInFreezer]

First

first scummy post by gif

You just jelly

[GuyInFreezer]

part of me thinks bluesnek being scum is too simple and other part of me just wants to do a reset after being wrong on imaginality.

also wish black would have stayed would have loved her input in this game

To be fair I didn’t form townread on imag on my ketchup until like 1 or 2 pages before hammer

[GuyInFreezer]

[GuyInFreezer]

Everyone should know what I did during the night already. Just check my D2 ISO.

what did u do

He targeted furtive

[GuyInFreezer]

I have a 2-cost breathing technique. I can target a player with it. If they are a demon, they die...
And that's about it.

Okay so BlueSnakelet was

almost

town from this but there's one problem:

Black/Empathice wasn't a demon.

I redirected BlueSnakelet to Black/Empathice last night.

Per their claim, they shouldn't have been able to kill Black/Empathice.

With this knowledge, if I redirected the scum kill as I suspect,

The Kokichi Oma kill was likely not groupscum

.

(Also that most mods tend to put groupscum kill before other type of kills )

[GuyInFreezer]

I just realized that they are talking about the opposite of what I thought they were talking about.

[GuyInFreezer]

Anyway UNVOTE:

[GuyInFreezer]

If Black slot was redirected kill then I'm less likely to believe that Blue is scum because most mods tend to put groupscum kill first.

[GuyInFreezer]

ranger could easily be scum and faked that if mafia played their cards right with the night kill.

for ex they could have killed black at night just so ranger could claim the next day .

blue would have then outed (either as mafia or town ) and claim they targeted someone random.

blue could also have been roleblocked from scum just to set that up

or blue is just mafia with ranger and they set it up so that they both tried to get clear.


ngl, if they did that -- that is a smart ass mafia move

a "smart ass" mafia move where if one is caught lying the other also jumps into the pit for buy one get one free.

[GuyInFreezer]

And Ranger was being widely townread why would they sacrifice Ranger

[GuyInFreezer]

it sets them up perfectly because now they probably will both get townread. or they ranger just buses blue and claims what i said earlier.

Ranger was already being townread and Blue was already being widely scumread.
They have 0 reason to do this, even considering WIFOM. Risk is way too big (some town accidentally catch Ranger in a lie in random PR action) for the reward (Blue lim that could've naturally happened regardless of Ranger's involvement).

[GuyInFreezer]

Speaking of Black

ngl that was a town rep out so if that slot was alive I was gonna locktown it anyway

[GuyInFreezer]

With that said, can we talk about how we have both bus driver and redirector in the game?
This shit is wild and I'm glad that I picked a commuter.

[GuyInFreezer]

Not sure I understand what you mean here.

Black rep out was 98% "fuck this game I'm out." How D1 ended was favorable to scum.
I'm only guessing of course but I'm inclined to believe that's what happened.

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: BlueSnake

I'm kinda getting cold feet but if you would be my guiding light, my lord and savior Pink Ball

[GuyInFreezer]

Considering mafia have access to blood generation, they can afford to pick demons

I did say that Kokichi kill was demon kill, if I understood how blood worked. (Which I never really bothered to read until I saw the flip cos I'm actually human lol)

[GuyInFreezer]

I don't really think any sane mod would give mafia a second kill, with at least two source of assumed town redirection. The setup is already swingy as it is, and I feel like giving mafia a second kill would make the game way too swingy. But I do recognize the chance of third party.

[GuyInFreezer]

But then, putting both redirector and bus driver in a single game is already not sane to begin with, so :shrug:

[GuyInFreezer]

Nothing changed really
Mo still town
Ranger still town
Ice I guess town
You're flat null to me until you lim a scum or fail to find one until the end of Day 3.
PB I think town

[GuyInFreezer]

Who claimed demon so far btw

I remember FB Furtive Klickwork

Enchant

[GuyInFreezer]

Is Kawaii just always a wolf here?

I ISO'd Kawaii. Not feeling wolf there.

[GuyInFreezer]

idk what you mean by "where."
From what I've seen from Kawaii so far (i.e. lots of "why") I feel like if Kawaii was scum they'd focus more on random questions. But what I saw was an attempt to form some sort of opinion.

[GuyInFreezer]

Not that I know how Kawaii is on either alignment. But that's my gut feeling.

[GuyInFreezer]

Btw I'm gonna be busy for next few days because moving shenanigans. Please don't end this day too quickly.

[GuyInFreezer]

idk what you mean by "where."

What reads do you think I have that are likely to be wrong is what I'm tryna get at

idk about likely to be wrong but why is Drew so high up there

[GuyInFreezer]

Kawaii is a newer player

Then yeah Kawaii get double town points for trying to form opinion in this fast paced game.

[GuyInFreezer]

Mmm I'll ISO Drew

eventually

soon.
Right now my laziness is kicking in.

[GuyInFreezer]

P a g e t o p

[GuyInFreezer]

I should have time to read this afternoon.

[GuyInFreezer]

Listen, all I know is that I attempted to visit GiF.

Why the fuck would you visit a claimed commuter??????????

Why would I lie about it?

I felt like GiF was towny and possibly could have been hiding their ability by saying they were a commuter. My role can assure their ability would go through before anything other night action(though probably doesn't matter if they actually are commuter).

If they are lying and scum, I could have rushed the NK and Klick is scum with them trying to protect them, and think I would be easy to rail road because of my position on the elim yesterday.

[GuyInFreezer]

Also Klick bussing Drew with a guilty is a silly thought. Cos we can just go like “why not lim Klick and have them shoot Drew” and there’s nothing they can do about it

[GuyInFreezer]

Anyway I reeeeeally don’t believe there is going to be a second redirector with a town bus driver flip and confirmed redirector. So Drew gotta go today.

We also prob should massclaim because if poisoner is still alive and is scum then shit could go south very fast, even with 1v1 set up in place.

[GuyInFreezer]

With that said, Drew actions scream rolecop if he really targeted me N2 and Ranger N1 so

[GuyInFreezer]

Well you can delete your previous emote to get pagetop at least lol

Frozen Angel: It doesn't let me delete posts.

[GuyInFreezer]

Keyword is “really”

[GuyInFreezer]

Although I think we should try to massclaim and find this poisoner first if possible because if Klick is scum, this means they are most likely feeling very confident to endgame on mislim today.

[GuyInFreezer]

I thought furtive confirmed that the poisoner is alive

[GuyInFreezer]

I thought furtive confirmed that the poisoner is alive

Yes my poisoner is alive.

Actually now that I look at it, poisoner prob isn’t alive and the message we got at day start is just an action copypasta

[GuyInFreezer]

Ok no need to massclaim today

[GuyInFreezer]

Y’all slow down with the voting

@Mod: Hypothetically if IceDragon’s role poisoned somebody and died, what would the announcement at the start of the day look like?

[GuyInFreezer]

Can someone unvote until this poisoner thing is dealt with first

I don’t want another lolquickdayend while I’m sleeping for third time in a row

[GuyInFreezer]

Y’all slow down with the voting

@Mod: Hypothetically if IceDragon’s role poisoned somebody and died, what would the announcement at the start of the day look like?

That skill has a publicly announced effect. The player and everyone else would be notified that the target was poisoned and that it no longer affects them as the poisoner is dead.

Y’all I think we need to find the poisoner first if possible

[GuyInFreezer]

Am I the only one who is scared of scum poisoner meaning extra deaths?

[GuyInFreezer]

Ranger where u at with reads

I'll say I don't have much in the way of reads.
I appreciated the mod intervention, because it was necessary: two players have nearly half the posts in the entire game. Add in third place (you), and you cross the 50% threshold. 3 players have over half the posts in the game. Their noise makes receiving alignment signals on the other 8 players more difficult for me.
I've been recovering from rl issues, so keeping up with the amount being posted was impossible.

Despite the difficulties, I've still got reads; they aren't strong. I've only weak townleans; I've no real scumreads, as much as a gigantic pool of nulls which some are more likely to be scum within.

Should I live to tomorrow, I'll share what little I've got. It won't be groundbreaking; I doubt I'll get reads I'm happy with.

You’ll live Ranger

I’m actually a doctor

[GuyInFreezer]

Ranger

Town poisoner died.
Furtive is poisoned but town poisoner didn’t do it.
Nobody claimed poisoning furtive.

Does that not give any red flag to you

[GuyInFreezer]

Also no if you’re thinking of potential town role-stealer, scrap that out.

I discarded that role to grab this op nongated commuter

[GuyInFreezer]

Idk flavor so

I dunno if poisoner is scum and is ungated then we have until D4 to get rid of it or we just straight up lose, considering 4 scum

[GuyInFreezer]

I'm leaning towards voting Drew because of the guilty, and if he is scum he might be my poisoner

Drew didn’t visit you either way (he either visited me or he visited Ranger & Ice) soooo

[GuyInFreezer]

Like if I’m overreaching it someone needs to tell me why

Because I’m suddenly getting massive cold feet about everything

[GuyInFreezer]

because anyone with common sense, could see that. either that or gif is just trolling lol

I could be a doctor claiming commuter.
I could be a commuter claiming doctor.
I could be neither and I could be a PGO instead.
Or I could be both doctor and a commuter????

[GuyInFreezer]

Gif pushing for this poisoner side quest gets momentum off of Drew

Is there really anything more to talk about Drew other than "If Drew flips town that-yellow-mnm-hmm-picture on Klick?"

[GuyInFreezer]

furtive is never scum if the poisoner is scum. Firebringer makes sense, yeah

scum!poisoner was never confirmed. this was something gif implied because they said town poisoiner could have outted by now. but its most likely but there is still an off chance that hebich / ranger could be poisoiner.

a. hebich has never caught up and probably does not realize that they should have outted as posioiner.

b. ranger could just have a poison ability with their redirect, since they kept hinting at how furtive deserved it, and that it was a good poison for town. however, they dont want to out right now because they dont want to die from mafia -- as that would be town's strongest role.

Ranger is confirmed redirector

[GuyInFreezer]

I actually like it, better than 2 Vigilantes imo

How about a town half-vig, town poisoner, and town poisoner? Because we had a half vig who got quicklimmed Day 2.

[GuyInFreezer]

Btw on top of that if I picked demon I could’ve stolen one of those roles as an one shot ability, gaining the killing role myself.

[GuyInFreezer]

I’m beginning to understand why I was given unlimited commuter as a choice. At first I was like “woah op as fuck role.” Turns out this role is a savior against all chaos that is this setup.

[GuyInFreezer]

Only if I could commute on day phase too.
Unfortunately I get prodded if I do that too long

[GuyInFreezer]

Do you think Klick lied though

[GuyInFreezer]

Didn’t Kawaii said his jailkeeper activates on hammer?
Also if he’s town he siteflaked so

[GuyInFreezer]

Maybe they believed Drew on me not being a commuter and actually targeted me

[GuyInFreezer]

I want hammer so that grandpa and enchant can’t have it

I need to hammer to save you

I want hammer so that grandpa and enchant can’t have it

I need to hammer to save you

Why do you need to hammer exactly?

To jail Firebringer

[GuyInFreezer]

How does blood work again?
I’m human so I actually never really read the blood rule

[GuyInFreezer]

Why would mafia buff town redirector

[GuyInFreezer]

In addition when Drew got guiltied with visiting Ranger, Ranger probably realising ceirtain doom put Pink Ball as "I redirected this person" because we gonna assume that mafia will not reditect each other.

So yeah i am going for Pink next.

Nah Pink is town

[GuyInFreezer]

Enchant I know you have to antagonize as much people as you can in order to achieve your own personal wincon that can or cannot be related with this game, which is being a jester

A

demon

jester

[GuyInFreezer]

Kawaii siteflaked

[GuyInFreezer]

He is being replaced in all game he’s in rn if you look at the replacement thread.

Don’t worry, merely mentioning this doesn’t violate ongoing games rule.

[GuyInFreezer]

What do you need from me

Okay -- I will "visit" you at night to offer something.

@Kawaii

you should TARGET ENCHANT

This is very important.

@kawaii did u do this?

if kawaii actually targetted enchant i would consider this a guilty insta elim

Nah it’s not hard guilty
Drew looked p sold on me not being an actual commuter so they might’ve tried to kill me.

[GuyInFreezer]

Maybe now's the time to do a massclaim? We'd had enough time to let powerful townroles do their thing so no need to keep protecting that information

i think u know my role now

I don't

pink ball r u serious rn

You probably got redirected lmao

[GuyInFreezer]

For once I’m actually read to end day early. After Klick checks in.

[GuyInFreezer]

Also Enchant wasn’t jailkept last night if his opening post was “whoever got jailed is sus”

[GuyInFreezer]

I’m about to disappoint Mo

[GuyInFreezer]

I’m a doctor. Pure, unadulterated, triple-filtered doctor.

N1 and N3 I was on Pink Ball, N2 I was on Ranger.

[GuyInFreezer]

Imagine not healing Furtive

I asked and mod said I can’t save poisoned ppl

[GuyInFreezer]

Yeah because why would they go after Mo

[GuyInFreezer]

His crumb made him sound like inventor.

[GuyInFreezer]

Yeah because why would they go after Mo

Why would they go after pink?

If an inventor crumbs to give something to someone who’s being townread, who would scum go after?

[GuyInFreezer]

They obviously wouldn’t go for Klick because vengeful

[GuyInFreezer]

I heavily doubt PinkBall would pull a double “you lied” and force a 1 v 2 as a scum, especially after losing a member the last day, so

[GuyInFreezer]

I believe Hebi stopped the kill on Firebringer tbh

Why would scum go after crumbed PGO?

[GuyInFreezer]

Folks Enchant is clearly a VT

[GuyInFreezer]

FA does not put VTs in her games

Ok next time I’ll put the “/s” on

[GuyInFreezer]

Although I’d put VT in a role madness to screw with ppl

[GuyInFreezer]

You are not FA GiF

… or am I?

[GuyInFreezer]

GuyIn

Freezer

Frozen

Angel

[GuyInFreezer]

Anyway what are we waiting on before everything is unveiled?

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh yeah it’s also probably important to mention that Drew claimed he visited Ranger N1 and he probably didn’t lie about that.

[GuyInFreezer]

I still think they could’ve been framed/warlocked

Occam’s razor

[GuyInFreezer]

Also since we have two claimed trackers, two claimed protects, and hebi’s role, we can just have doctors stay on trackers and have hebi wifom between saving docs and not saving docs.

But that requires that all claims are town so

[GuyInFreezer]

I can make a Magical Fog, and have anyone who targets me randomly redirected

So since Ranger redirected PB to you N2…

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh yeah also if it matters
I can protect from all kill attempts, not just one.
And yet I can’t protect from poison because it’s not a “nightkill”

[GuyInFreezer]

I still think Ranger has to go today

[GuyInFreezer]

Mafia has a candy that makes people go all happy and zoom zoom
Why would mafia share candy to non-mafia instead of fellow friend mafia

[GuyInFreezer]

That is also speculative in a sense since you don’t know what other powers the scumteam has. Is redirection the strongest power to buff?

I insist that the most obvious explanation is that yes, Ranger is scum, but framing Ranger based on a lie by Klick is also a possibility, and Klick did lie about their role

You probably don't know but there's

reason

why redirection is fucking insane power which not given away willy-nilly

Wdym not given away willy-nilly
We have three redirection claimed/flipped already

[GuyInFreezer]

Drew isn’t a rolestealer

[GuyInFreezer]

idk why y’all are all “if Klick is town”
The only scenario I could even see Klick bussing Drew is to sac him to chain mislim on a redirector.
But why would they bus when when town was dying fast and Drew wasn’t even being suspected

[GuyInFreezer]

I stopped having reads since massclaim was mentioned. More optimal to mech play than base on reads in game like role madness anyway.

Yes I’m more mech player. And yes I claim to be the mech player without paying attention to blood mechanic at all.

Although, at the rate the things are looking I might have to switch back to read mode again

[GuyInFreezer]

Isn’t hebi more alien than jailkeeper

[GuyInFreezer]

PGO kills everyone who visits so it’s technically different from PGO

[GuyInFreezer]

Okay, my big reason for not trusting Pink Ball here:

I used my Magical Fog last night. Pink couldn't have seen Klickwork targeting me.

He didn’t though
He saw “everyone but Mo and Firebringer”

You should confirm with a mod whether the “random” includes you

[GuyInFreezer]

Okay, my big reason for not trusting Pink Ball here:

I used my Magical Fog last night. Pink couldn't have seen Klickwork targeting me.

He didn’t though
He saw “everyone but Mo and Firebringer”

You should confirm with a mod whether the “random” includes you

Why would they be excluded and not me?

You said your fog redirects to random player.
If that random includes you in the pool, PB’s make sense

[GuyInFreezer]

It targets someone else randomly, so I wouldn't be in the pool of possible redirects back.

Can you ask mod one more question for me? I’m just trying to get this 100% before I decide things.
Ask if the player has to specifically target you to get the redirect. As in, will global targeting role be redirected too?

[GuyInFreezer]

With things given so far, the correct play is to lim Klick. If they flip town, then we have two confirmed scum of {Ranger, Pink Ball} which hebi can just lol alien. If they flip scum, both Ranger and Pink Ball are most likely confirmed town.

[GuyInFreezer]

Only way both Klick and PB are town is if Enchant has a role that mess with their interaction since Mo couldn’t have.

[GuyInFreezer]

Only way both Klick and PB are town is if Enchant has a role that mess with their interaction since Mo couldn’t have.

?

I mean you’re the only unclaimed left that could’ve done something, right?
Mo couldn’t have because hebi blocked him.

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: Pink Ball if you’re obsessed with knowing who’s lying and who’s not, just conftown me by flipping me and get Klick tomorrow. Have in mind that they targeted everyone so good luck with whatever that is. I’m not 1v1ing FL, it’s not worth it

Just curious. What if your result is a mod error and accidentally left out hebi?

[GuyInFreezer]

If Klick is scum, that means Klick bussed Drew to get towncred after rushing lims two days in a row to achieve blood required to do whatever this global thingy was.
If whatever scum-Klick tried to do is that powerful enough to bus Drew in order to survive few more days, if it ends up between Klick vs PB Klick has to go first 100%.

[GuyInFreezer]

Wait hold the fuck on

[GuyInFreezer]

PB

Is your "I confirmed that activating venge doesn't target anyeone" from the MOD or from Klick's "I just activate it"

[GuyInFreezer]

Ok

If it was latter I was gonna be angry at you.

[GuyInFreezer]

Isn't the only claimed human me, FL, and PB?

[GuyInFreezer]

Mine doesn't even fit poisoning. Mine is stone breathing.

[GuyInFreezer]

Y'all 1v1 gets resolved today. Period.

If PB is town and Klick is scum that means Klick has role so OP that they had to bus Drew out of thin air.

[GuyInFreezer]

I also think if whatever role targets globally, then it wouldn't be redirected by FL's ability because it's not targeting him specifically. But I can't ask the mod that unless I add bunch of "Hypothetically speaking" so.

[GuyInFreezer]

I wasn't gonna say this because FL looked like he was uncomfortable dealing with asking mod too many questions but hey.

[GuyInFreezer]

Dunno.
I need flip.

[GuyInFreezer]

Apparently my vengeful targets the whole playerlist!

I do not know why that is but apparently that is how the ability works

[GuyInFreezer]

The thought to ask mod didn’t occur to you when you first saw PB’s claim?

[GuyInFreezer]

Hmm
So I’m human

What stops me and Mo from just protecting each other

[GuyInFreezer]

So anyway we going back to Ranger right

I have a reason to believe that Klick visited the whole playerbase as a vengeful. Normal vengeful wouldn’t visit anybody. “Normal” vengeful.

[GuyInFreezer]

I kinda wanna FL tonight for 1/8 chance of self heal.

[GuyInFreezer]

Also I think FL and hebi were targeted by Klick’s venge visit because it blanket-targeted folks who had potential to kill. Given Drew could multitask without having that on the role PM, it is possible for scum-FL to mist and kill at the same time and scum-hebi can do the thing and kill at the same time.

[GuyInFreezer]

That’s the only explanation that I can think of.

[GuyInFreezer]

So venge didn’t target Mo and Firebringer because they couldn’t have killed due to hebi’s ability

[GuyInFreezer]

Kawaii slot can die too because there is no way scum doesn’t have some sort of roleblock

[GuyInFreezer]

there is still a chance where pink ball and klick could be both town, ive been reabalyzing this

You’re late grandpa

[GuyInFreezer]

PB vs Klick basis was that Klick denied visiting hella people so one of them had to lie.

If everything checks out there is no problem.

[GuyInFreezer]

I mean yes there is a chance Klick-scum simply decided to approach this 1v1 with a different path after realizing that if 1v1 actually happens there is no escaping that.

But I was told normal vengeful doesn’t visit anyone. “Normal” vengeful.

[GuyInFreezer]

also whats the case on ranger?

Drew had no reason to 'buff' them if they were town. He targeted IceDragon and Ranger, IceD was the kill, Ranger ability, meaning he gave Ranger priority.

And Klick actually is the one to have gotten this outed, so in theory, it kind of outed both Drew and Ranger if Klick is scum, and the two of them were too.

VOTE: Ranger

Hebichan being seen is still kind of weird, but I don't really see her lying like that.

As I said I can only see Klick thing as blanket target. If it was a proper visit action you wouldn’t have been targeted and neither would hebi.

[GuyInFreezer]

Uh. Prediction:
Someone lied about self target to gambit on preventing mafia from targeting them.

Why did you say that out loud

[GuyInFreezer]

GiF, work with me, you're the only active player that I townread, the rest are doing jackshit or are scum

You can always take the simpler appeoach.

Consider town has a flipped bus driver and a random redirector. Would town also have a redirector?

[GuyInFreezer]

I’d like to think that scum has some sort of way to wade thru all these chaos and the “rushed” thing alone sure as hell ain’t enough.

[GuyInFreezer]

Hebi protects at least two players
Me and Mo cross saves
FL pops mist

How is scum going to deal with all this?

[GuyInFreezer]

PB got “Flavor Leaf didn’t visit anyone” on N2.
He got his name so he wasn’t redirected. So FL didn’t pop his fog N2.

[GuyInFreezer]

I want explicit protection on me, either from GiF or Grandpa. I want one of them to explicitly state that they're protecting me

I have 0 reason to not be on you

[GuyInFreezer]

anyway we have 12 days ish for deadline (surprise) so we don’t need to rush things

We can actually take it easy for once

[GuyInFreezer]

Here comes my tin foil theory

What if Ranger was a NK target

[GuyInFreezer]

Why mafia kill someone who was incriminated by result

No I mean N2.

[GuyInFreezer]

What if ID was actually killed by unknown source, FL popped the thing and is lying, and Drew’s rush got randomly redirected to ID by nexus, and ID’s poison bounced off of FL and landed on furtive

[GuyInFreezer]

Actually ID was prob NK target.
FL actually popping nexus N2 makes more sense though.

Enchant somehow knows that poison on furtive is done by human. If ID poisoned FL but it got randomly redirected to furtive, then technically human did the poison because FL character is human.

[GuyInFreezer]

Yeah you know what
Having a multiple poisoner is a possibility.
Having a duplicate

loud

poisoner is very improbable.
ID couldn’t have poisoned furtive directly, because otherwise furtive poison wouldn’t have gone off.
Therefore, it make sense that ID targeted a nexus and it randomly bounced off to furtive.

[GuyInFreezer]

The only other explanation is Enchant being a rolestealer of some sort and poisoned furtive.

[GuyInFreezer]

For this i need to know poisoner aren't it?

I mean you could’ve randomly gotten it. You wouldn’t have to know that ID is poisoner.

But I think ID’s poison being redirected makes much more sense. And Ranger is demon so it couldn’t have been her.

[GuyInFreezer]

I’m saying FL poisoned furtive without knowing.

[GuyInFreezer]

I’m gonna look so silly after doing all the “oh I’m starting to figure shit out” and Ranger is just scum.

But then this game has always been a circus as far as I’m aware.

[GuyInFreezer]

Wait

We massclaimed. Why didn’t we massclaim the discarded roles