Demon Slayer - Kimetsu no Yaiba (Game over)

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Ok ok I’ll take a deep breath

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By the way if it wasn’t clear, hebi is still scum since they claimed self targeting and that their power would act before anyone else’s so an interference makes no sense.

Both hebi and Grandpa having the same discard? That’s fucking IMPOSSIBLE and my theory is that that’s a scum slip between the two. One of them claimed the other one’s discard by accident

Your progression with me makes no sense here. I am harder confirmed scum in your eryes than ranger is. You refused my 1 v 1 claiming that klick was your target now you're pushing ranger super hard.

And now you're pushing grandpa.

I like this post. I am starting to like you more and more hebichan.

I literally said it before. PB doesn't want me to flip here cause it makes them outted scum but they want me as an easy lynch in elo if they're "confirmed" tracker.

VOTE: hebichan

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Hebichan is not even good scum, that’s why I’m so angry at this point

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I don’t think that grandpa and FB are scum by the way, not at this moment

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Oh FB voted me, then yeah he could be scum

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I think I will it call a goodnight. This has been a shit show.

677 posts

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406 posts

Oh my fucking god how did I end up like this.

I’m out

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Grandpa, sorry for the hostility, it’s been nice playing with you

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I don’t know what you mean by that @Klick

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VOTE: Ranger at this point they were just stalling to let town flail

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I don’t know what you mean by that @Klick

I'm just shitposting and I got a bottle of beer because my pfp makes me wanna drink and I'm just havin a good time
I'm sorry you're not having a good time
can I offer you a green M&M and a hug?

Dude I’m having a great time this has been so intense in a good way, sure I don’t like getting angry but it’s part of the game

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hebi if you want like… a little bit of towncred you should vote now and not wait for the hammer

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Because it’s obvious that if Ranger is scum, the scumteam’s best alternative is to get the hammer

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GiF, hebi and Leaf are here. We can end this day right here right now

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Vote Ranger hebi stop stalling

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hebi do it, GiF is here too

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It’s ducking 2:20 AM here

Here too

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What the fuck GIF get out of my house

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STOP STAAAAAALLIIIIIIING

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AND I LOV ME YOU TOO RANDOM CITIZEN

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Fucked up the quote because of my phone, what a waste

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I wouldn’t do any sudden votes today because today is effective ELo.

This is true

Gonna explain more later but busy

This is probably not true

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With Grandpa’s vote on hebi we probably can assume that one of them is scum tho, and I am pretty sure it’s hebi

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With Grandpa’s vote on hebi we probably can assume that one of them is scum tho, and I am pretty sure it’s hebi

Why?

Because we are at ELo so if it was town voting town by now the scumteam could’ve already ended the game

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GiF is not the poisoner by the way

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Yeah Enchant that’s a fakeclaim I’m sorry

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There’s no way there is more than one redirector in this game, mechanically speaking I think that’s not possible. And if it is, there’s no way town has two redirectors and scum zero

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No they aren’t. But I checked the rules and Frozen Ángel added a line that if there are similar roles, there is a hidden rule determine priority, so ok you can be a redirector

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You aren’t reading and that’s not my fault

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Do you want me to act like nothing happened before this day and cooperate with you now, Enchant? Is that how you approach games?
You’re not town, but if you are, you made this game unwinnable

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Both Ali and Klickwork are going to sleep on this

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You deprived everyone or cooperation last 4 days.

VOTE: hebichan

Caught lying yesterday and we’re in MELo/ELo, hope that the protectors do their thing tonight and we get out of that situation.

I’m not giving any more minute of my time to this game

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Hebi’s scum, I’m not throwing

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Poisoner won’t have a shot tonight, if they could, they would’ve poisoned other nights too. We can afford eliminating confscum today. We can’t afford getting town today

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We eliminate hebi, Kawaii flips which I don’t really care ‘cause poisoner could be 3p and Kawaii scum so even better. If Kawaii is town, good too, they were a liability. Tomorrow we solve the game

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Poisoner won’t have a shot tonight, if they could, they would’ve poisoned other nights too. We can afford eliminating confscum today. We can’t afford getting town today

How it's confscum

SHE FUCKING LIED ABOUT SELF TARGETTING

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No more talking to you, sorry I have no self control

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You know what? New theory: the poisoner is actually a 3p and Kawaii is in fact scum. Scum needs to kill the poisoner to win today.

I don’t know if this is true, but since there’s a chance that it is, then killing the poisoner is not town’s priority.

Vote hebi, end the day, vote for fast night and solve the game tomorrow.

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Whoever tries to stall this is probably scum.

Enchant wins scum equity, Grandpa wins town equity (or 3p poisoner equity but who cares?)

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Shhhhhhh just die

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Read FL’s role Enchant, FL wouldn’t have died if you redirected the kill towards him

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He said he could

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And claimed that he had a guilty that he would claim today to drag the nightkill to him

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The scumteam has a strongman which makes sense with how many protections and fucked up roles there are in the game

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Hmm no, it makes more sense that he couldn’t use it, you’re right

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Let me check something

UNVOTE: hebichan

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@Grandpa what did you do last night?

We wait for Kawaii too

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There is scum between hebi and Grandpa tho, that’s a fact. One of them slipped with the discarded role they got

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Yeah you’re right. Sorry I’m still very frustrated with this game and the fact that I was right about Ranger being town made me care even less

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You’re good at MELo/ELo, I know that, I lost against you in this situation. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt

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Most likely it’s hebi and you tho

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I really don’t know at this point l, but I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt, so it would be Klick and FB with hebi if not you

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I will

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hebi, assume we’re both town here:

How did I get Klickwork targeting you yesterday but not your two other targets? Do you have a theory behind that?

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But didn’t you say that your action was first so it wouldn’t be affected?

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That could be Frozen Angel’s shenanigans actually

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Who did Ranger redirected you with?

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Maybe FL did activate his power and you got redirected to someone else? And that’s why the nightkill wasn’t redirected?

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I really don’t know what FL said that was true and what was a lie trying to derail conversations

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Ah right, I remembered that he used it on N2 but that was just a theory that now we know is not true since he’s town

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He didn't use it N2. You personally claimed to track him on this night.

Yeah but GiF and Ranger had this theory that he could’ve used it. Since it’s a self target it could’ve been true that I saw him visiting no one.

It doesn’t matter anyway ‘cause we know now that FL was town

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Enchant is right here @Grandpa

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We have to wait for Kawaii

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That is all

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We agree then that Enchant’s claim and yours of this particular night action aren’t compatible unless someone else intervened

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Your avatar broke

This is also true, I haven’t been able to see your avatar for a while, Grandpa

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Enchant can’t be the poisoner

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It has to be FireBringer

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Yes!

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From my point of view, you could be scum voting town, Grandpa. So it turned into a 1v1 between Hebi and you after I voted hebi

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3 alive, if Grandpa, hebi and me are all town and Grandpa and me voted hebi, 3 wolves end the game

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What's the confusion about that?

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No, I was voting hebi and then unvoted

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it turned into a 1v1 between Hebi and you after I voted hebi

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There was a lapsus of almost and hour and a half where Grandpa and me were voting hebi. It's not that much time now that I think about it

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With Grandpa’s vote on hebi we probably can assume that one of them is scum tho, and I am pretty sure it’s hebi

Why?

Because we are at ELo so if it was town voting town by now the scumteam could’ve already ended the game

I counted wrong, I said ELo and it's MELo, I thought there were 7 players alive

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My bet is that we are at a 4v3v1 or a 5v3; if we're at a 4v3v1, I don't know what role would the 3p have.

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Yup

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Grandpa who did you target last night?

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I think Im going to reread a little while we wait Kawaii, should take me a while since I have to work, but I have an idea of how I want to tackle this

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I asked you who you targeted, not what result you got

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But ok you targeted GiF thank you

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Grandpa your rethoric that no one’s listening you is getting really old

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Have more patience ‘cause I’m trying to work with you, that’s what I’m asking.

I’ve put much more effort in this game than I usually do

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That would be funny

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Arsonist?

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Ok, now my rereading begins

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Oh my fucking god

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YOU MOTHERFUCKERS

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IT'S KLICK, GRANDPA AN FIREBRINGER

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OH MY FUCKING GOD

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(I'm on page 35 that reaction can change, but it's all starting to make sense)

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my precious little child -- dont poison him

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Grandpa is the poisoner

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Look at the playerlist

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Enchant can be telling the truth and something stopped them, there's still a lot of information missing because of lack of scum flips

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klick might be the poisoner

This was on D1, we didn't know there was a poisoner yet. I'm accusing you of a Freudian slip

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But yes there is a world were hebi is scum and not you. Let me keep reading

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I'm trying to see how a restriction on the scumteam on who they can kill would affect the nightkills that went through

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I don't understand what you said in that post.

You said "don't poison my children" on D1 when we didn't know there was a poisoner in the game

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So you roleplayed based of a quote that was on post 100... on post 928

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What's your flavor again?

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So you love Demon Slayer

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You love Demon Slayer, yet never, in more than 750 posts, never occured to you to suggest that the poisoner who only kills demons has to be Shinobu.

And the player who has never watched Demon Slayer could figure that out.

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You're a rapid fire kind of player, you have shown that along the entire game.

Are you taking your time think very carefully the next thing you're going to say now?

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You love Demon Slayer, yet never, in more than 750 posts, never occured to you to suggest that the poisoner who only kills demons has to be Shinobu.

And the player who has never watched Demon Slayer could figure that out.

flavor is NAI thats why i didnt worry about it. i dont why u focusng too much on that

plus i dont think me bringing it up would have done anything lol becuase us saying posioner is shinobu means nothing

Flavor is NAI, but flavor IS related with night actions.

No one has claimed being the poisoner, so we know that the poisoner is not town.

So knowing that someone is fakeclaiming flavor IS important.

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You're a rapid fire kind of player, you have shown that along the entire game.

Are you taking your time think very carefully the next thing you're going to say now?

no im responding to u while im on a meeting xD

What kind of meeting?

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You love Demon Slayer, yet never, in more than 750 posts, never occured to you to suggest that the poisoner who only kills demons has to be Shinobu.

And the player who has never watched Demon Slayer could figure that out.

flavor is NAI thats why i didnt worry about it. i dont why u focusng too much on that

plus i dont think me bringing it up would have done anything lol becuase us saying posioner is shinobu means nothing

also tamayo, doma, mitsuri have posion abilities so again useless lol dont see ur point here

I've stated that I haven't watched the anime, I didn't know that

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look at what i said above m8

pedit: government meeting

10.30 PM?

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No, I'm reading the rest of the game, I'm pretty sure I caught you, now I'm trying to see if you're groupscum or 3p

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I think GIF is right:

I don't really think any sane mod would give mafia a second kill, with at least two source of assumed town redirection. The setup is already swingy as it is, and I feel like giving mafia a second kill would make the game way too swingy. But I do recognize the chance of third party.

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Ummm no need to get mad, I'm reading the game and trying to understand where we are right now. But if you want an answer, if me and hebi are both town, the scumteam knew they could count on both of us going after each other, so they only had to take a stance on who of us they would want to push. They use one of the partners to make the push, the other two jump when the second town vote comes.

Both me and GiF are pretty much obvtown this game and both have recognized each other as town, so you (the hypothetical scum!you) probably thought that pushing hebi would be easy and that both me and GiF would jump on that wagon. I did, actually! I easily jumped on hebi's wagon! So my theory is not nuts, and if you're asking to "really analyze you and give you credit where its due", I recommend you not to discredit me the second I suggest you're not town.

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i literaly said this shit.

You have more than 750 posts, you've literally said every shit possible.

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Kawaii could be scum with hebi from D1's interactions

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Ali I'm sorry if you've said this but I'm all confused between the reread and this live interactions but,

Your reads? Now?

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Not saying "now" like "tell them NOW" but "what are your reads at this moment"

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I don't really think any sane mod would give mafia a second kill, with at least two source of assumed town redirection. The setup is already swingy as it is, and I feel like giving mafia a second kill would make the game way too swingy. But I do recognize the chance of third party.

Only a chance?

Would be willing to bet.

Pre Edit: Is Blue baiting the elim on himself?

Oh ok now I think this was a tmi lie, why would Drew say this, to anticipate that we would discuss if the poisoner is mafia or 3p? lol

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Then yeah Kawaii get double town points for trying to form opinion in this fast paced game.

This is true too, felt the same while rereading

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yo ali explain grandpa poisoner for me

Read my posts on last 2 pages?

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It's one hundred percent Klickwork. Their push on Imaginality is fucking ridiculous, extremely timely if Blue was their partner, and they either supported or participated in the well known scum tactic of flooding the thread so town players like me, who can't be active all the time, can't read and participate. I can taste the evil in their posts.

This post from IceDragon was very different from what I read on D1. This looked

informed

, and IceDragon claimed having a (soft?) guilty on Klick afterwards, and got nightkilled.

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Grandpa, you're the only one going in circles while I try to advance straight ahead.

me not voting hebi? When I said yesterday that her claim makes no sense with my result on Klick?

Me being the scumteam biggest threat? The scumteam that probably needs one more miss elimination and knows that I'll probably vote hebi? They don't need to eliminate any specific town today, they need to eliminate

any

town today.

Why is GiF confirmed to me? GiF protected me last night and I'm a tracker?

Grandpa, my problem with you is that you rant and rant about repeating yourself, but you clearly have no grasp on what was or is going on in this game. Maybe instead of posting so much you could read with more carefully?

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It's one hundred percent Klickwork. Their push on Imaginality is fucking ridiculous, extremely timely if Blue was their partner, and they either supported or participated in the well known scum tactic of flooding the thread so town players like me, who can't be active all the time, can't read and participate. I can taste the evil in their posts.

This post from IceDragon was very different from what I read on D1. This looked

informed

, and IceDragon claimed having a (soft?) guilty on Klick afterwards, and got nightkilled.

i actually caught this in my readthru too but i disregarded because i believe thats when they discussed it in the next day

Next day Klick claimed tracking Drew onto IceDragon and Ranger

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also @pink ball have we played together. i want u to read a mafia game of mine

No

i think meta is the best way to solve me imo

And no.

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Scum are going to start having to deal with Klick-Fire-Flavor trio sooner rather than later.

If one of them are scum, I’d eventually start to realize it as the game went on, and I’m sure they have precautions with me, but we catch a scum or 2, I’m not worried we can’t successfully town block.

Your confidence seems weird here

What do you mean?
I think it's fine

Drew if you have any reason to think FL is a wolf here I would love to hear it

I don't get how they lock towned you and Fire so quickly.

And they seem to be setting up the buss if things go awry.

My gut is not a fan.

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you clearly have no grasp on what was or is going on in this game.

Doesn't this reinforce what I'm saying about them

No. He's very capable of spouting whatever comes to his mind to confuse the rest of the playerlist

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That's your kind of school of thought so I don't see how you don't scumread that kind of behavior

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I’m setting myself up to look like a giant clown this game, but i am and forever will be KING CLOWN

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Is this a TMI slip?

This is the kind of bullshit that I'm pointing out: you're not reading carefully, you're looking to spout whatever you can. It says clearly "the scumteam that PROBABLY needs one more miss elimination", which makes sense setup wise and it's right now the consensus.

You keep reading the game again and finding shit that is irrelevant.

This is the first time I have reread the game, and accusing you of being the poisoner is a new thing that hasn't been suggested yet. Not irrelevant.

Like that poisoner post, that was useless and I proved it to you.

You proved nothing. You proved that you could've been more helpful towards flavor but actually didn't

Okay so GIF protection = Town role? This is just bias because you thought you were the night kill

1+1=2. GiF protects me + I'm a Tracker = ...

YOU thought they were scum, then they flipped town.

Are you fucking kidding me right? Do you see why I say you are not actually reading the game?

You literally repeat the same shit and I keep going on about how people just wanna take my credit where its due

I'm not repeating anything? And not trying to take credit of anyone?

Hey Grandpa, I'm still catching up, will you let me or will you continue spouting shit?

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No. He's very capable of spouting whatever comes to his mind to confuse the rest of the playerlist

What??? Confuse the playerlist???

You're just pulling shit out your ass now. I am not spouting anything random. You would see these are responses to your posts. SHOW ME ONE POST WHERE IT WAS RANDOM IN THE PAST 10 PAGES THAT HAD AN EFFECT ON THE GAME.

You can't because there is nothing. I have been responding to people, asking questions, trying to solve, and contribute just as much as you.

Can you stop AtEing for a moment please?

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SHOW ME ONE POST WHERE IT WAS RANDOM IN THE PAST 10 PAGES THAT HAD AN EFFECT ON THE GAME.

I didn't say random, I said that you're trying to confuse people by stating anything that comes to your mind. Examples:

YOU thought they were scum, then they flipped town

Not true, I called Ranger town almost the entire day and tried to get Klick eliminated.

ngl i didn't even know kawaii was posioned till like midday

You not reading the game carefully

I see the team as GIF, Klick, Pink or Enchant, Firebringer, Hebichan

im just worried about hebichan , klick, and firebringer being in a team .

Between 50 posts you suggest three different scumteams

I can literally deep dive on firebringer as well to show you the lack of contribution and scummy posts made.

how do u expect me to townread them?? im not about to do no meta dive bs because we are on day 5 and if there is something they should do , is actually be proactive.

Talking about FireBringer, you first say that you can "literally deep dive" on him but a couple of posts later say that you're not "about to do no meta dive".

My point, Grandpa, is that you don't think that much about what you post and don't actually read carefully, so your acusations of everyone not reading or paying attention or going in circles is actually you trying to sell that rethoric.

Either that, or you have to get better.

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HAHAHAH U HAVE NO RIGHT TO SAY THAT WHEN U WERE DOING THE SAME SHIT HEBICHAN WAS DOING AND LITERALLY SELF VOTED. LETS NOT HOW U ACTED ANTITOWN IF U WERE TOWN

Me being a hypocrite doesn't mean I'm not right

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Like really, playerlist? What does that mean

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7. Also you can catch up I do not care. I am just letting you know, I just know that you are gonna say some dumb shit that was already brought up before like you already did.

Ok this got me. I'll sort you without interacting you, it's not worth it.

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BlueSnakelet (8) [Elimination]: Ranger, Pink Ball, GuyInFreezer, IceDragon70, Firebringer, Flavor Leaf, Doctor Drew, Klickwork
Firebringer (1): Enchant


Not Voting (9): Klickwork, furtiveglance, KawaiiKame, hebichan, BlueSnakelet, GrandpaMo

IceDragon70 was killed on Night 2. He was Town Gyokko - Upper 5 Demon

I have a guilty on drew

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I'm not trying to frame you, I'm trying to sort the game... and you're getting too defensive and making yourself imposible to sort out of this interactions. I'm inclined to believe this is just you AtEing and I don't want to read you out of this, so let me keep reading.

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Like really, playerlist? What does that mean

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don't ? me. u literally mentioned plyaerlist

No. He's very capable of spouting whatever comes to his mind to confuse the rest of the playerlist

Yes, and I don't understand what you don't understand about the word 'playerlist'

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Cool, can I keep reading now?

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and I don't want to read you out of this, so let me keep reading

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I can't take you seriously when you accuse me of taking you out of context when you don't read what I say lol

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Like, this doesn't look good for you, it doesn't look like you're actually mad, you look like you have an agenda, but I don't want to read you like that because you could actually be mad and I don't want to miss interpret your feelings or invalidate you, so I'm asking you to let me sort you by reading the rest of the game instead of interacting with you right now, 'cause if you're town and I'm making you mad, well, that's not my intention at all

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I haven't sorted you yet

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I am being so geninue here right now.

And I want to believe this!

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its obvious from my pov that u keep framing me idk u just seemed biased af

If you're town, it will be obvious from your point of view that what I'm doing is trying to frame you - you know for a fact that you're town. I don't. Everything that I say towards you will seem wrong if my conclusion is that you're not town, and right if my conclusion is that you're town.

I'm not the one biased, quite the opposite.

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You

LOOK

like you have an agenda, I'm not saying you actually have one. For fucks sake Grandpa

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PB STOP INTERACTING WITH GRANDPA JUST READ

If he's actually having a bad time I want to help him to calm down. You know I'm not into making people feel like shit.

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Ok Grandpa, I hope you sleep well and reread my last posts and see that I'm trying to be comprehensive and to avoid getting you upset, but if you're going to start every fucking post with "omg ffs pinkball" then fuck me, I'm not losing my time with you anymore.

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Do this if you think he's actually villager. If he's a wolf he's just posting to tilt you because you're easy to tilt

I haven't sorted him yet, that's the problem. It would be way easier if I was convinced he's the poisoner and could say "hahaha sure dude fuck off"

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Sure buddy

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Do this if you think he's actually villager. If he's a wolf he's just posting to tilt you because you're easy to tilt

I haven't sorted him yet, that's the problem. It would be way easier if I was convinced he's the poisoner and could say "hahaha sure dude fuck off"

I thought you were convinced he's poisoner

95% sure

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100% pain in the ass

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Hey I'll take the Klick route, it's for the best

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Hey I'll take the Klick route, it's for the best

Should take my route. Its 10x better

Would if I could

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I'm interested in what kind of chicanery PB will come up with to fos me so I want him to keep reading

I think I've made myself very clear about my read on you and how I think you bussed Drew. Ranger flipping town is pretty damning on that matter

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But my real problem is that there's two worlds, one where I caught hebi lying about self targeting, or one where I actually found you doing some fucked up thing that could target everyone except your teammates.

FL has no reason to claim that he used his power the night I saw you target him, so why did I see you target him? And if FL was saying the truth, why can't hebi be telling the truth too? Because it seems like your role worked before both FL and hebi.

But then, why did I not see you target FB and Grandpa? I thought it was because of hebi, but that can't be right if you acted before hebi.

So you see where I'm at: either I caught you doing something that affects everyone but your partners and hebi coincidentally targeted both of them, or hebi didn't target herself and was lying.

I'm inclined to believe that you're scum and bussed, Ali. You know I should be inclined to believe this because I know how you work. But I want to keep reading nonetheless, because this is a fucked up game.

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If we're both town, Grandpa is a third party and the wolfteam is Kawaii + Hebi

Do you believe, setup-wise, that there's only 3 scum and a single 3p?

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Everything points out to the scumteam that includes you thinking that IceDragon had dirt on you and that you had to buss to be alive the next night, that's what I see

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But Grandpa drained the time and energy I actually had tonight, so I'll have to continue tomorrow... I'm doing home office so I can be around during the day. Good night!

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The EoD was fucked up already, one of you or Drew would be pushed anyway and better to be Drew than you.

About FA’s broken setup, not really? It’s a lot of speculation

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At this point the argument “I don’t think FA would want something like that in her game” is invalid lol

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You can certainly try to derail the elimination, but if you have the most powerful role in your team, bussing Drew and setting up a miss elimination on Ranger is actually a great strat

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Like, sure, you can work it out and probably get another miss elimination. Then what?

If I’m right, your strat was way better for the long run

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Klick let’s separate both arguments:

My scumread on you

FB and Grandpa being your partners

The second part sure you can discuss that FA didn’t include something like that in her game, I can buy that

But I’m still scum reading you.

And FB could be in my PoE, Grandpa too.

It could be hebi and Kawaii/Enchant too and Grandpa as 3p and FB was just caught in crossfire

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So for the sake of it, we can leave the theory that I caught the three remaining scum via a track result behind because it’s pretty much insane

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PB I'm Deathproof

What’s that?

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I don’t… get it. So eliminating you today is the same that voting no elimination?

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Don’t you think that yesterday would’ve been the optimal time to prove that?

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I’ll sleep on it, talk to you tomorrow!

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We're Daki and Gyutaro.
Daki's ability is to hire a woman from the entertainment district to track someone
Gyutaro is a vengeful

I didn't read this at that moment. This means that your flavor claim is most likely true, and it makes sense that you got two powers. Ranger said that you being a tracker and a vengeful given your flavor made sense.

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Ali, why did you target Drew the night you got the guilty?

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But did you think that Drew was someone you that should’ve been prioritized to sort at that point of the game?

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I think your approach about doctors is applicable to investigative roles too, and in this case, it looks inconsistent on how I thought you would use your track

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(Your answer is good, I’m trying to understand why Drew and not players that you know better than him that are capable of leading a scumteam)

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Sorry, another question that you probably already answered too: who did you target on N1?

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What I meant was, you approach a protective role by targeting a player that you want to keep alive instead of trying to guess who’s going to be night killed.

I expected that your approach towards an investigative role would’ve been similar, like trying to get results on a difficult player to read instead of trying to guess who’s going to make the kill.

You can tell if a difficult player is lying about a night action in the future.

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My dude I should be the one asking for patience do not worry for a minute

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Yeah no I get that, that's a valid approach, either send the most townread player that probably can get away with it or send the least powerful role which it's probably this scenario.

My argument is towards how I expected how you specifically would approach a tracker role, but I'm reaching, it doesn't have to be the case.

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And I'm in a position that either you got a really good shot, which is entirely possible, or you bussed and got in a great position for later, which is entirely possible.

In both cases I'm praising your play, as town or scum.

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And the thing is, there are two worlds here: one in which town has played poorly, focusing too much on mechanics that can't really understand; or one in which the scumteam has played way better and has dominated a game packed with good town players (both confirmed and based on my own reads).

Is a town composed by FL+Ranger+Pink Ball+GiF+Klick being dominated by a scumteam of... hebi? Kawaii? Enchant?

Or is there at least one really competent player guiding and making their partners better? Or am I underestimating someone in particular?

But if it's a team of underdogs, why would they kill Kokichi on D1? Did one of them suggested "hey, Kokichi may be a really powerful role because of how he played on D1, going under the radar and shit"? Or is it because Kokichi is a competent player and one of them was particularly scared of them being in this game?

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I mean your idea of using the track to try to catch a player that would go for a fakeclaim and catch them in a lie is a way of playing the role I haven't considered

And I believe you since it's not the regular way of approaching the role

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At this point I'll take any suggested team as a good answer, there's nothing evident right now

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At this point I'll take any suggested team as a good answer, there's nothing evident right now

I mean it has you in it which is why I said you're not gonna like it

I have no problem with that; as I said, I expect anything from anyone at this point, and even if I believe I make no sense as scum because of how D4 went, but with how little info we got, everything seems like a long shot

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@Grandpa I don't feel you crossed any lines yesterday son don't beat yourself up, it has been fun playing with you and that's how I evaluate players in this place, not by how good they are, but how fun is playing with them (there is, obviously, a correlation between the two).

I'm not the best at this game so I can't give you any advice, but we can talk when the game ends.

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It was meant to say "so", not "son", you're not my son, you're my gramps

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I have decided that, if I really want to solve the game, I have to take a stance on you, Ali. My read on you hasn't resolved since D3 and that's why I feel stucked.

And I've decided that I'll assume you're town. It's in no way the easiest path to follow, but it's the only one I can take right now.

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Oh yeah, I'm in a Klickwork pocket if Klickwork is scum. Like in my head, they're just town, but because I have that feeling they're town, until logical proof starts to prove otherwise, I'm probably just gonna keep town reading them.

Hate that I can't explain it, it's just pure vibe/gut read.

But I just know Alisae and I, if town/town, have the potential to easy read each other here. There's just no real case I have for town reading them, and nothing's pinged me.

I'll keep in mind the possibility of them being scum with a strong pocket for sure if I push others.

I got to this point and like, same. vibe/gut read, you're town. If I think of night actions, mechanics and bullshit, you're scum. In what world did I convince myself that trying to understand this chaos would be a better path than just vibereading.

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You could still be some kind of weird 3p that can fuck us in another major way, but right now we need scum, and you're not

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Or at least I'm convincing myself that you aren't

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So, if GiF and Klick are town, we got:

Firebringer
Grandpa
Enchant
Kawaii
hebi

I'll look at something that it's been bugging me since I started rereading with this in mind

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Playerlist: [17 Players]
1- Klickwork (Alisae and Klick)
2- furtiveglance
3- GrandpaMo
4- KawaiiKame *
5- Pink Ball
6- hebichan
7- Firebringer
8- Enchant
9- Kokichi Oma
10- GuyInFreezer
11- imaginality
12- Ranger
13- Doctor Drew
14- IceDragon70
15- Black Empathice
16- BlueSnakelet
17- Flavor Leaf

Unrelated, but kind of funny that the 8 alive players are between 1 and 10 in the playerlist order

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Tell me if you see what I'm seeing

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Another approach, to see the quality of said interactions. I feel like column 1 and 2 are town indicative for the players and the 3rd is NAI. Direct questions seemed to be made as trying to alineate with town players, and direct interactions regarding the game some times felt like pocketing. The trolling with FB was mainly at the begining of the game. Interactions with Enchant could've been non existent and would've been the same.

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Kawaii could've like a little benefit of the doubt because of how low they've posted in the game, but then again, isn't that a low hanging fruit that Drew could've pushed a little more?

Drew was only voting people that other players were pushing: imaginality, BlueSnake... Klick doesn't count 'cause Ali guiltied him.

Why did the scumteam didn't jump a little more on Kawaii? Were they just not afraid of them and let them live as a possible future miss elimination?

Sure, could be.

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Firebringer
Grandpa
Enchant
Kawaii
hebi

The thing is, out of this players, we could make some assumptions regarding Drew:
Firebringer: looked like Drew wanted to be on his good side
Granpa: ammount of posts could be related to activity more than anything else, but Drew seemed genuinely frustrated with him at some point
Enchant: pure trolling
Kawaii: non existent
hebi: non existent

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I'll look at what time Drew, Kawaii and hebi were posting to see if it's related to who was active at that moment or if I actually found something useful

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Both were posting at some points of D3, but before that they were here when the other one wasn't. Drew's playstyle this game was oriented on live interactions, quoting posts no more than 10 posts ago, so if Kawaii wasn't posting, then Drew wasn't necessarily avoiding Kawaii.

Kawaii's development during D3 is very telling tho

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Lol, yeah

VOTE: hebichan