Pokemon Battles 2 - Attack on Giratina [GAME OVER]

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Why do you say you are biased?

I tend to scumread the kind of playstyle he's portraying

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Why do you say you are biased?

I tend to scumread the kind of playstyle he's portraying

So if you are aware of this about you, why are you 100% certain they are scum?

The 100% certain he's scum was back when I was being hyperbolistic and making a parody of myself. I'm not so sure that he's scum, he's not my biggest scumread

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Game fast

Does anyone want to give me important updates from the last 30 pages

We did a masslcaim and it seems like we're all town in this game and Ali's trolling us

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Sky sorry I have explicitly avoided interacting with you because, opposed to sheep, you have the kind of play that I would townread really early on without a solid argument behind it and I'm trying to look at what you do as an outsider

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You're in my readlist! In the "step up in my mind" to be fair, but I have been reading you

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Shit I wasn’t expecting that power move

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Look sky, Enchany immediate noticed you!

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willing to barter my vote for an enticing offer

Vote Kitty and you have my vote on D2

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Are you selling your vote too?

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I'll vote for kitty to get your vote tomorrow sure. Kitty is in my PoE.

I don't expect you to actually honor this agreement but then we can have a pleasant fight about it tomorrow when you reneg.

If he's on your PoE I'm giving you something in exchange of nothing for me since you're already willing to vote there.

This is a deal for someone who's not planning on voting Kitty

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The important question is, if you're gazing at the sky, are you gazing at the stars or the space between them?

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Also, don't be a sungazer, or you'll become a voidgazer

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Not_Mafia's not a bad vote either at this point

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Klick be honest

Are you town?

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Go Johnny go go go

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just realized we all missed the oppurtunity to reply "smell ya later" when blue dipped out

Fucking hell do you realize now why I say that I tend to townread players like you?

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tonight I will boost the defense +1 of all kitty tacky wagon joiners

Ayyyy

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E-2 in 98 pages? In an Ali game? What a disgrace

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is the point where i start fighting against the blue wagon

I’ll join the battle

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This wanting to end day early talk sucks and is zzz

Agreed and reminds me of scum!Ali in Demon Slayer

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Keep reading

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I get notifications when I’m quoted.

Watching Roland Garros right now

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Jarry just won.

I keep coming back to my original thoughts that are mainly gut

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It feels reminiscent of TM where your townread of me flipped into a scumread as soon as I started pushing you. And the over-the-top AtE feels similar too

I'm totally down for a Pink wagon

The over the top AtE here was fake. In TM it was legit frustration towards a dense player who didn’t want to interact with me in good faith.

I haven’t townread you in this game so my evolution on your slot is nothing like TM’s we’re I was playing around you on purpose.

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The difference between you and me, Black, is that I won’t pursue my scumread on you because I think you’ll look townier if I engage with you, so I’m gonna just keep doing what I like doing and let you dig your own grave

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Look for the definition of good and bad faith argumentation, you are using it differently

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And keep saying that you couldn’t get me limmed because of disproportional AtE that never actually happened. You got uncomfortable, sure, but that’s not entirely on me, sorry.

I get that you’re still salty, I’ll respect your space and not engage with you.

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Surely I am!

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Black, you’re the one who came to the TM thread and said “Shea and Dunn you had phenomenal scum games in this game!” and “yeah I would’ve gotten you limmed if you weren’t so hostile”, demonstrating that you clearly have a chip on your shoulder, not me. My “digs” aren’t digs, it’s me trying to disengage with you. You just said it, you think I’m trying to make you angry. That’s not true, you’re just angry, period.

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I’ll stop arguing with you, not healthy for you, for me or for anyone here. Cheers

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Oh but just to be clear:

VOTE: Black

You trying to use TM and changing the rethoric is positioning. You’re scum this game

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Oh but just to be clear:

VOTE: Black

You trying to use TM and changing the rethoric is positioning. You’re scum this game

I don't get a Black scumread this game.

Would you like a perspective slip if I pointed it out?

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You're wrong but cool vote bro

She constantly points out that I’m scum, yet when I vote her she says “I’m wrong”, instead of saying that I’m scum pushing her.

She knows I’m town. Scum can’t be wrong, they know who’s scum

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Why would you tell a scumread of yours “you’re wrong” instead of “your scum”?

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I feel like that kind of slip accurately finds scum at approximately the rate of the number of scum in the player list over the number of players in the player list.

I’m scumreading Black from before that; I pointed it out because Titus doesn’t see Black as scum, so I have to point out things that came after my vote.

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Because people just say words.

Sure, and words have meanings and intentions behind

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Because I'm not convinced you're scum and I've aid that multiple times

Nah

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If you think this is SvS I’m down on all of you jumping on Black’s wagon and if she flips scum, you yeet me tomorrow. Even better, I’m ok with being yeeted tomorrow no matter what Black flips today

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You can’t say you fully scumread me because after TM that would be as close as a scum slip. Your pseudo push is the only thing you can do towards me

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“Meta” LOL OK BLACK LETS GO! There it is, showing true colors now, what meta???? Go on!

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Have you actually read a game with me in it other than TM?

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Oh ok sure that makes sense

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Black’s scum irrespective of the aforementioned slip, that was only for Titus since she said she couldn’t see Black being scum to that point

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But if you want to ignore it as a slip, that’s fine. I think you’re too biased Squirtle by the way

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I’m willing to go for Blue if that means ending this day, Kitty’s still a better alternative (his role sounds like a support!scum role). Cakez I’m biased because of his read on me that makes me think he’s town, but I’m willing to vote there too

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No

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I didn’t say ending it now, just ending it

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I’m not doing that sorry. Im not trying to get Black limmed now, I don’t have the time to do it

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It’s Saturday, going to a birthday now

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I’m not doing that sorry. Im not trying to get Black limmed now, I don’t have the time to do it

you're...voting her...my dude?

So? It’s not like me stating an explicit scumread on her will suddenly make her limmed vía everyone agreeing with a case I haven’t stated. Doesn’t mean I won’t eventually do it. Or may not if I don’t get the time or I think it’s not worth it. I only make strong cases when I know I’m going to get the lim, and Black’s strong enough to make everyone not follow my case just because “but what if you’re wrong” rather than actually take a stance on her.

In other words, I’m not putting effort that won’t get rewarded, since I don’t have much time on my hands

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I think your claim that you're not trying to get her limmed is just clearly false though. You offered to trade your lim for hers like two pages ago.

That's rhetoric, obviously. But the point of the rhetoric is to get black limmed.

It’s a little bit tiring to talk to you when everything I say you take it in a literal way and out of context.

“Not trying to get her limmed now” = answer to you asking for a case on her, meaning I’m not going to actively push the wagon at this precise moment ‘cause I don’t have time. It doesn’t mean I don’t want Black to get limmed.

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Stop asking me for things, I don’t have the time to engage with you

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And I JUST gave an example of you taking something out of context

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“Could you lay your case on Black being scum all in one place?”

“No I’m not doing that, I don’t have the time to push her so I’m not trying to get her limmed now”

“You’re voting her and even saying you’re willing to die in order to get her limmed so it’s false that you don’t want her limmed”

“I was answering your question about making a case on her, don’t take me out of context”

“Show me were I have taken you out of context”

Squirtle, once again, I’m not putting the effort that you’re asking me to put. That doesn’t make me scum, that makes me busy.

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I’m not making a dramatic exit? I said I have a birthday

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I’m tired of this game being all about me and I’m very much responsible for it, sorry

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Ranger+FL is an interesting thought

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Chandra, my vote is yours, nothing in exchange

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VOTE: Rathe
E-2

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Reminder that Not Mafia will probably hammer so if you put someone at E-1 is basically hammering that player

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VOTE: Black

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Sussy baka

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Not a fan of Black or PB wagons.

Fine

VOTE: Rathe

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VOTE: KittyTacky

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VOTE: Rathe

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I wasn’t

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UNVOTE: Rathe

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Is Kitty a scumlean, a scumread or both?

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VOTE: Rathe

E-2 again

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Yeah I agree with Klick, I think Rathe is town. Rathe's vote on Cakez shows that too, he's not trying to derail his own wagon

UNVOTE: Rathe

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Are Elitells forbidden now? Because of oog influence?

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Exception that proves the rule

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Blue was townie and seems like the wagon formed because of him being confrontational rather than something actually scummy

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Talk to Ali, I guess is better to keep you rather than replace you

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If you had to compromise and vote someone else, what options do you have?

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The "if" at the begining of the question implies that it's an hypothetical situation

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And I think discussing other options rn makes me less likely to get what I want so I'm not really inclined to do it.

I actually didn't see this post before, didn't see the new page sorry

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Compromise works when you're asking scum to compromise, to see what they're trying to do. I had Squirtle as solid town, he has fallen down to null and asking him an hypothetical to see what he would do is about sorting him rather than actually caring about his reads.

His answer doesn't give me too much so it didn't work.

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Sure bud, it was a really simple question, sorry

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I’m tired

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I’ll leave the thread for this day phase, if my vote’s needed to end any wagon count with it.

Peace.

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This is for my own mental health, so please have some decency and avoid forcing me to interact with you. Maybe I’ll feel better later and I can contribute more, I don’t know, that’s how I feel right now.

If I get limmed for this so be it, I’m just tired.

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It was a generic ‘you’

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And maybe forcing is a bit extreme… the point is that I’ll probably won’t be around as much as I usually do

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Thank you Black

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@Shea I’m fine being wagoned, don’t let my mental state hinder your game

@FB please don’t lose your time building a case on me unless you actually want to get me limmed. I won’t defend myself

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Concerned about this catch ups from Ranger because they seem to come to a conclusion that's already decided, like staying in Meuh's wagon

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Enchant probscum

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Titus probscum

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Omfg please tell me that's true

I was going to fake that later in the game

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It's a 1-hit KO move

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It would totally be the flavor of a vig or day-vig

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My surprise is towards you knowing enough about Pokémon to throw Sheer Cold instead of Fissure

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i easily have at least 1000 hours playing pokemon from my childhood; mostly gens 2-4 but i played quite a bit of 1 and 5 as well

i'm mostly over it but i find myself playing randomized crystal nuzlockes every two or three years

Shit I could've written this posts myself

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Who the fuck would fake a dayvig?

Like I mean who the fuck would actually do that?

Drixx's reaction was pretty townie ngl

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Aye aye cap'n

VOTE: SirCakez

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Why is Not_Mafia joining wagons instead of waiting to lolhammer

Did I miss something in my hiatus?

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Is this actually Just_Mafia?

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It me

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Oh that was an answer to Black not an attempt to get a pagetop

The best kind of pagetops by the way

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Your reads are invalid to me Cakez sorry

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For real Cakez, do something if you want to actually get me limmed. You're just posturing with your read on me. I haven't ignored your read on me, quite the contrary. I'm really curious about your read on me, not to discredit it, but to actually see what you have about me. You say it's meta? I disagree, but I'm biased because I know my own alignment, so it's interesting to me whatever you think my scum meta looks and how it could be represented in this game.

But since the only thing you have done is calling me scum and done nothing about it, I have no other choice to believe that your read on me is just to subvert me. I called you town to give you enough space to give you the chance to change that feeling, and yet, you haven't. You know my scum meta? Then you know my town meta, right? So you know that the best way to get rid of town!PB is to not give him space, right?

C'mon, show me the receipts, I won't bite. I want you to be town. I want you to be town wanting me to be scum. And I want you to be town willing to shit things up by being wrong. You're not taking risks.

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And don't act pissed with me saying that you have done nothing about it. Quoting one of my posts and saying "this is so scummy man" is not an actual case, is nothing. Look, I can do that too

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that is a joke don't ban me

Man this is so scummy, how can anyone else not see it?

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Thank you, I gave it a lot of thought and came to that conclusion after searching into my soul

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Wheme plays league, +town points

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I'm actually getting pumped up now that I believe that Black could be town

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You haven't, but I took a step back of the thread to reevaluate what was happening and what I was trully feeling about some slots

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You being town would most likely make Shea scum sooooooooooo...

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I'm kidding, I don't want to bury the thread into that shithole

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I know why or at least I think why and it's the main reason why I reevaluated. Yeah I felt like shit for it for a while but don't worry, no hard feelings

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You being town would most likely make Shea scum sooooooooooo...

I'm kidding, I don't want to bury the thread into that shithole

You say you're kidding but I'm v curious here

The last time someone said me/Shea had one scum they were right

I have this lingering feeling that he was whiteknighting at some point, but I really don't want to go back to our earlier interactions to see if that still holds.

I went to read our mafia PT on Amnesiac instead and there was post that stood out: I told Shea that town!PB would likely scumlean on him because it looked like he didn't give space to his scumreads to actually develop their game, making it impossible for them to change Shea's mind and making Shea's scumreads stay as scumreads permanently.

I felt like he was doing the same at some point in this game.

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I felt like he was doing the same at some point in this game.

To go a little further, I don't know how a town!Shea looks, so I mostly assume it's a personality and activity thing rather than an actual scum tell from him

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Do you feel that, given how this particular game has moved, you could recriminate that to Shea in particular? I don't see much solving from anyone for like 2 irl days

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who is shea

SHquirtlEsquAd

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It me

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That is they posted the super confident case thing on Kitty and then they just... fell flat like a helium balloon getting punctured

Oh if you want to join me on Kitty I'd love to get him limmed, he's still my biggest scumread but the wagon didn't get enough traction

He has done nothing to redeem himself

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I'm reading this in the voice of an overly dramatic anime villain monologuing during the final confrontation with the hero

More like Shadow the Hedgehog or Vegeta kind of character

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All the cool people are voting Cakez

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Rathe's wagon building up again is just an answer to Cakez's wagon

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Will Skygazer vote for someone? Find out in the next episode of Dragon Ball Z: "Skygazer votes for SirCakez"

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That’s an awful town bin

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Who did you rep in?

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It looks like the thing that the people you’re throwing into your townbin have in common is that they’re not going to vote you, except Klick

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I feel like Klick, Chandra, and I are being generally town read by the majority of players too, so idk why you feel that’s weird, Pink.

Is it specifically because Meuh did it?

Yes. To be more clear, it looks like he’s trying to avoid being voted

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VOTE: Pink Ball

This confirms my theory. Meuh’s being survivalistic

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I don’t know if that makes her scum though

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It’s the first time that I think that Meuh could be scum, but I still think that other wagons coming back to life after Cakez’s wagon was built says more about Cakez than the others

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“Meuh’s being survivalistic - Chandra”
- Pink Ball

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I’m not scumreading you Meuh

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Are you mad because you thought you were being scumread for the wrong reasons?

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Rathe/Meuh/Cakez all make me want to vote them whenever they post. Don't even think about hiding from me instead, I'll notice that too.

How convenient that these are the top 3 wagons!

That’s not that weird given that Chandra is universally townread and there’s likely scum trying to appeal to him by giving him what he want. I think Chandra is wrong in two of these three

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FL who are your like bottom 3-4 in this game right now

Who would actually flip scum

Kitty, Cakez, Drew and Whemestar

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Sheep’s vote on Rathe is bad too

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Sheep instead of Whemestar if it’s the four lowest

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Those four are the scummiest, not necessarily scum. What I mean is that I’m probably right about two or three and that there must be a deep wolf like {FL,Ranger,Squirtle,FB} to make the game more interesting

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I don’t get why you are so sold on Kitty and I was meant to ask you ‘cause I love your readlist except for that

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I think not considering Squirtle as scum is being disrespectful

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No need, you aren’t convincing me but you don’t need to convince me right now

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I legitimately think that nobody cares about your mason claim though

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Stop dancing on Cakez wagon and jump on in, there’s plenty of space

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Get fucking real FB

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FB how about you stop hiding behind a “gut read” on me and actually do something

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FB how about you stop hiding behind a “gut read” on me and actually do something

ohh wait do u scumread me now

No, I want you to do something with your vote

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FL shut the fuck up dude

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Like for a hot minute, shut the fuck up

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I’m talking with FB, not with you

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Fucking scumteam I don’t know who you are but I know that you had a previous conversation about me and knew that the only way to get rid of me was to me make this game as miserable as possible, so fuck you, whoever you are

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FL is just scum huh, then yeah it makes sense why this game is so fucking dumb

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FL came here just when a wagon started building on Cakez, hope that everyone can see that.

With that said, I’m out. I’m not dealing with scum!FL pushing me, I’ll get too salty

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Yeah fuck off FB, cheers

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You were VLA until Sunday, you did nothing until Tuesday PM when something relevant to your team was happening.

This confirms everything: Rathe and Meu are town, Black is town, FL and Cakez are scum

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I don’t give a fuck about FB scumreading me, I give a fuck about him voteparking me and doing nothing else.

You said it yourself, there are 22 players, show some fucking consideration and cooperate with them to get a wagon to the end

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You were VLA until Sunday, you did nothing until Tuesday PM when something relevant to your team was happening.

This confirms everything: Rathe and Meu are town, Black is town, FL and Cakez are scum

I was tired! I had like 16 hour work days. And I feel like I was catching my footing here.

Convenient you wait to push me until after I vote you.

Convenient that you start pushing a scum agenda when a wagon starts on your partner.

Don’t try to turn this on me, this is all about you, as always.

You said you were VLA and that’s why you weren’t posting. I pointed out that your VLA was until Sunday, and then you say you had a long shift? So why not giving that info initially?

You’re lying.

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I wanted to be giving and you sent your goons to make me miserable you fuck.

Vote Cakez and end the fucking day

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By giving I meant vibing, autocorrect

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I wasn’t one of the leading candidates at any point FL stop fucking lying

FB, Wheme and Kitty have their votes parked on me, that doesn’t make me a leading candidate in any sort of way.

It’s been Rathe and Meuh since forever and more recently Cakez, when you came full bravado against Black and now me.

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“Black one of the living candidate” my ass, look how you’re trying to make your own agenda look like it’s everyone’s agenda

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Whatever dude this is FL’s show, I don’t know why I bother. Good luck everyone

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Suggesting that when I get pushed I make the thread unhealthy is so fucking heinous, what a miss representation of how I play and who I am

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I see how I affect it in THIS game, you said that it’s a general trend. Thats because I’m in a poor mental state right now, not because I play like this always.

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Remember how in demon slayer i advised never to push Pinkball.
You are seeing why.

Fuck you for playing the victim while saying shit like this and making me the asshole when this is what you think of me

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Peace out, I’m not dealing with this bullshit

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This isn't personal

You made it personal

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What I quoted is not related to this game, is related to a general view of how I play