Asterix: The Little Gaulish Village - Game Over

[Bengel54321]

So many possibilities about mafia groups, could be Romans, Pirates, several gangs that showed up in the comics, Gothics...

I'm going to

Vote Shelper

for being the first to post and vote in the thread. (and for being Dutch).

[Bengel54321]

There's BTW a very handy "index of characters" in that link. If you click on Obelix's house in the map (upper left), you'll find an index of all characters ever seen in the comics.

[Bengel54321]

Well, I agree we have to do something to get the game moving so I'll join the bandwagon for now.

Vote: Sinister Overlord

[Bengel54321]

Unvote Sinister Overlord

I believe his claim, Pepe is a very likely character. I suppose the person that could "back up" his claim is the chief...or perhaps even Idefix (if I remember correctly, they were very close in that comic).

[Bengel54321]

Euhm...I am fairly certain I unvoted Shelper a while ago...but just to be safe:

Unvote Shelper

[Bengel54321]

I believe Idefix is Dogmatix in the english version, Bengel

Whoops...

I was confused about Getafix too at first...he's called "Panoramix" in the Dutch version.

[Bengel54321]

He'll be back monday (or Sundayevening)...he said this a few posts ago and it was also mentioned again in post #115.

[Bengel54321]

Gager, I'd also like to hear a claim from you. You dismissed those 10 votes a bit too easy there...do you really think anyone will unvote you after that post?

[Bengel54321]

I'll join the lurker hunt and

Vote Bluesin

.

[Bengel54321]

BlueSin posted 25 minutes before you did.

Blast...I totally missed that.

Unvote Bluesin

[Bengel54321]

What is so convenient about it? I know a LOT of people who conveniently missed Gager's post about being away till Monday...

At least I immediately unvoted after I saw my error.

[Bengel54321]

Yes...I definitely missed it on purpose...sure thing!

What possible good could it serve...?

I agree: we had this discussion before. We should be concentrating on finding some real clues instead of picking on stupid oversights.

[Bengel54321]

I think you all know why. No excuse for that.

Euhm...is this STILL about me missing 1 little post???

Good lord!

My most humble apologies...I misread and looked over the last post at that time. I am very sorry, I will never do it again!

Or do you really think I missed it on purpose?? What possible good could it do...???

[Bengel54321]

Although I don't really find Metroid that suspicious, I'll add my vote to the bandwagon cause I agree with Talitha...we have to do something.

Vote Metroid

[Bengel54321]

Ok...I'll join the lurker hunt.

Unvote

Vote Berend

I'm not certain, but I remember him saying something about being very busy with RL things lately...not sure if he'll be online but no harm in trying.

[Bengel54321]

I'll

Unvote Berend

since he'll be replaced.

No other vote for now though...I tend to believe MGIA although it was not a smart move on his part to claim this early.

[Bengel54321]

I really like my vote on Jag now....

For some reason, MMCL always seems to be right with this kinda thing...so I'll add my vote.

Vote Jaguar

[Bengel54321]

I will remind you of that Bengel....

I would expect nothing less!

*faithfully follows his shepherd*

Tsk! Spelling!

[Bengel54321]

*sigh*

My "following" of MMCL was just cause I agreed with all the logic above on the Jaguar bandwagon. It was kinda a joke to say I was following MMCL there...nothing more. Perhaps I should refrain from making inside jokes in the future. I apologise.

[Bengel54321]

Eager to lynch while the rest of the town including you was also jumping on that bandwagon? I am next on your suspicion list? Care to tell me why so I can defend myself?

[Bengel54321]

Bengel - you usual response to a suggestion I give is either to cry or to attack me. Not once in all my games of mafia (played with you) have you ever said that you would follow me.

And not once have you been very wrong in a game before (not as long as I can remember), so perhaps it's time I changed that strategy? I do not trust you implicitely, I voted for Jag because I found her to be suspicious as do a lot of other people. The extra comment was meant as a joke.

And just in case you are going to use this against me: you ARE wrong about me this time.

[Bengel54321]

It's not a praise, just a general observation. 8)

[Bengel54321]

I'm not sure what to think of this. It seems a bit of a weird character. Would Phoebus put a dog in this game? Can you vouch for Pepe? Quite a coïncidence we get Pepe to roleclaim...then talk about who can vouch for him and decide Dogmatix/Idefix is a likely character (and you agreed with this!) and then later on you claim to be that character.

For now my vote stays.

[Bengel54321]

Hmmm, ok, I'll

Unvote Jaguar

This however makes me suspicious of Sinisteroverlord again. He says someone can vouch for him...but it's not the most likely character Dogmatix. This leads me to believe we have no such thing as 2 character mason groups here now. Dogmatix would likely be linked to Obelix...but that's not the case eather.

[Bengel54321]

*sigh*

Do you want me to claim? I'll try to defend myself without doing so as Dragon suggest for now.

Please don't lynch me, I have quite an important role in the game. There is a reason why I never voted for MGIA after his claim. I can't vouch for him, but there's something in his claim that makes me believe him (about the, I don't always need protection - part). I also question the "there are lot's of mason pairs" in this game for the same reason...that's all I'll say for now. But if I have too, I'll spill it all although I'd very much rather not.

[Bengel54321]

Because you believe MGIA's claim about the protection-thing, you don't believe that there are a lot of little mason-groups? Could you explain that, if you can?

I can't without claiming or being very obvious about my role right now...

[Bengel54321]

At this time I completely believe in Reck's innocense. I fail to see how it is better to lynch a pro-town player than to have a no-lynch...

More info? Howsthat? We know all there is to know about his role (or so I believe).

[Bengel54321]

I'll go along with the no lynch for reasons stated above.

Vote no lynch

[Bengel54321]

I don't buy it eather.

Unvote no lynch

and

Vote MGIA

[Bengel54321]

There is a reason why I voted for him now.

I said there was something in his earlier claim that made me believe him. This was about the 'I don't always need protection-part". I believed this because there is something simular in my role.

When he explained it further however, it is nowhere near simular, hence my disbelief, hence my vote.

[Bengel54321]

Obelix was definitely not pro town...he was alone as a character. His mission was to kill all others, he was an SK.

This is why I defended MGIA on day 1...I was thinking perhaps all 'good' characters from the comics were bad here...so I wanted to avoid his lynch at all cost as it would blow any cover I could get from claiming the name Obelix.

I will therefore

Vote MGIA

now. He said he didn't need protection every night...Obelix had something simular. Every other 2 nights, he could go "hunting" which meant going out of town. That night he would be unvulnarable to investigations or a night kill. I also killed Gramathy/Geriatrix on night 1...so I don't think he's coming back.

[Bengel54321]

Wouldn't it be

much

easier if I had just said Obelix really was a pro-town nobody...looking for a fight?

Oh PS: night 2 I (Obelix) targeted Primoris...turns out there was something about him that prevented me from killing him without getting killed myself.

Unfortunately I don't know what it was.

[Bengel54321]

Told you I was telling the truth.

Again, I am not certain MGIA is scum too...but as I said before: if Obelix is scum...perhaps Asterix is too. The hunting bit also sounded very familiar with MGIA as he said he didn't need protection every night...

[Bengel54321]

It also seems to me that Getafix would be a pro-town role.

I honestly never really gave that much thought...I suppose this tips the balance again for me. Unfortunately it will be considered that I'm "backing off" cause I'm "feeling heat". Please know I only wanted to share the info I had and hence was very suspicious of MGIA for obvious reasons. Still think his role is quite "unrealistic"...yet possible.

I'll

Unvote

though.

[Bengel54321]

Oh, and why would I try to get MGIA lynched as this new character? If he really was pro town I would get lynched the very next day without hesistating...so why would I take the risk if I am scum again? I was merely trying to help the town by giving the info I had and putting it into perspective.

[Bengel54321]

You are:

a) Assuming Kerplunk/me have night actions.
b) Acting very much like a fisherwomen.

FOS Talitha

[Bengel54321]

Why are you voting for me when I voluntarily gave the info about my previous scum role, only to help the town?

If you want me to roleclaim again, I'll do so...

[Bengel54321]

If we assume Phoebus was going to post the role info, why didn'y he do that on day one?

My thoughts exactly, I don't want to question the mod here, but if he planned to post that info from the beginning, he would have done it the minute he announced I was replacing someone. I think he only decided to do so with all the discussion about "someone now knows more than I do and this is a bit unfair".

Why are you really voting for me now? Because I gave true info to the town and certain people don't like this...? Does it make me innocent? No, but it doesn't make me guilte eather!! I know there's some scum in this bandwagon and when I'm dead, you should look closesely at the persons that jumped on it.

Time for me to claim? I won't claim fully just yet, let's just say I now believe the vouching-for-someone part of some roles...

[Bengel54321]

Now THIS, I have to hear.

What more do you have to hear? How much more obvious can I get...?

Let's just say:

Gauloises, mes soeurs ! Libérez-vous de vos chaînes !

[Bengel54321]

I've been rereading, I will

Vote Flying Dutchman

Here's why:

Yes, i agree, we should profit from this replacement to learn the first things about alignment we can!

First, he wants to learn as much as we can about my previous role. I agree so I reveal everything.

Because you could know that Phoebus would reveal the information you had, and because you made yourself looking very pro-town without revealing anything new? No, while this is not incriminating it doesn't mean you're innocent either!

After that, he blaims me for telling it even because he says Phoebus would have revealed it anway...while he was asking for it before as nothing was initially revealed by Phoebus!

On top of that he's doing everything to get me killed:

He's backing up Talitha because she asked me if I had received the info about Kerplunk's night choices...to me that question has a VERY obvious answer: OF COURSE! (if I have any, that is).

Ugh! Assuming someone has a night choice in games like this is usually right, and it's no strange thing to ask that question!

No strange thing to ask...why ask it if you know the answer? To make me look suspicious?

He also immediately unvoted MGIA when there was a slight bit of doubt and didn't hesitate a second to jump on my bandwagon.

I think he's scum, big time!

[Bengel54321]

And what did you think of the answer?

This all smells like a shameless bandwagon...and once again I call upon you guys to please not forget who jumped on it right in the beginning.

[Bengel54321]

The feeling is mutual, I can assure you!

Please tell me why do you think I am scum. I have given you my role, I have explained my actions.

You on the other hand have been going after me for no apparant reason whatsoever.

Can someone please remind me why there's bandwagon on Bengel?

I'd like to ask the same question.

[Bengel54321]

it doesn't automatically mean that Asterix is as well

That is correct, but I thought he was scum too because of something "simular" in his role. The "I don't need protection every night" part sounded a lot like the "hunting trips" Obelix could make. After all this discussion I'm not sure about it anymore though.

There was a good point made about the fact that Obelix needed to kill Geriatrix, which probably means Geriatrix is pro town...so there went my theory down the drain.

[Bengel54321]

I'll keep my vote on Flying Dutchman for now, for reasons stated above.

[Bengel54321]

I'm not sure what to think of all this. I very much want to pick up my vote against MGIA again, but the points made yesterday about him (and today for that matter), stop me from doing so...

[Bengel54321]

This is all too much coïncidence...which explanation are you going to give us now MGIA?

Vote MGIA

[Bengel54321]

This is a lot to sink in. I wouldn't suggest a no-lynch today, but I would suggest we re-test MGIA again tonight as he's as suspicious as ever to me. Any ideas anyone?

Meantime I'll

Unvote and vote Werebear

I'll unvote if we don't come up with another plan to test MGIA before the lynch though.

[Bengel54321]

I'll

Unvote Werebear

for the time being, so he gets a chance to post...

[Bengel54321]

I very much want to put my vote back on Werebear now...but I still want to give him 1 last chance to explain those...."weird" posts.

[Bengel54321]

First: if I hadn't already unvoted Werebear I would do so now.

And even if he does why should he tell he was blocked by? That would only be necessary to confirm your claim if people were doubting you. As there were 3 kills Night 2 it's unlikely that you blocked scum. Revealing would have a similar effect to a cop revealing an innocent. (Of course there also the possibility of having blocked non-killing scum)

I agree with that, Talitha. No need to have more innocent roles with a night action claiming now.

I will also 2nd Tigris question for MMCL's nationality. I'll hold off a vote for Corsato right now...he seems a bit absent lately, making quick, short posts.

Perhaps Phoebus can prod him first?

[Bengel54321]

Just letting you know I'm alive...waiting for Corsato to post as I don't want to put him 1 away from lynch without at least a chance to defend himself.

[Bengel54321]

Does anyone have an updated rolename/list? I'm going to reread a bit and this could be helpful.

[Bengel54321]

Just in case that last vote from Reck for himself doesn't count I'll

Vote Reck

[Bengel54321]

So...was Reck innocent or not? His role seems to indicate he was telling the truth.

On top of that, Mr Gnome once again seems to have had yet another useless night. The only thing holding me from voting Gnome at this moment, is the fact that I want to hear from others first before voting.

[Bengel54321]

Exploding cheeses is just something any Corsican has according to the comics...not sure if it's flavour here of if Recky was given specifical info about having those cheeses. We can't be 100% sure if he was innocent or not.

Anyway...a random bandwagon seems to be a thing we can do here. Although I doagree with Big Kahinia (his statement "if Reck turns out innocent, we should lynch Gnome"), I don't think it's relevant anymore as Gnome does seem to be having at least some degree of useful info now.

Note this does not mean he's innocent in my eyes...could still be a bad cop of some sort.

Vote Big Kahunia

just to get things going again...

[Bengel54321]

Unvote

and

vote MH

Reasons stated above.

[Bengel54321]

At the moment, I tend to vote BK, just for using a lot of crap logic.

I think however, we better take out some non-active players than the ones that are still active...vote on MH stays.

[Bengel54321]

I suppose we've had 1 night kill and 2 "forced leaves".

The fact that we had 2 shieldbearers confirms the existance of small mason groups once again to me...2 people vouching for each other.

Not much extra info though...the fact that Werebear is called a "representative" does tell me the Romans are good, like (most) other representatives. Which in return makes me

Vote BK

for his actions yesterday and basically using crap logic.

[Bengel54321]

Mmmmm, I seem to have overlooked MMCL's post telling us BK is not a good lynch candidate.

Unvote BK

I'm not sure what to think of this whole Mneme bandwagon yet. I have serious doubts Phoebus would finish a mafia or cult member off like that.

[Bengel54321]

Call me crazy...but I think it's highly unlikely all (or most) of the "unclaimed" players are bad here. We have at least 1 killing group, probably two and perhaps 1 of them is a cult as well. That would mean 2-3 bad guys (wild guess, could be more).

I seriously doubt we can find them all amongst the unclaimed players right now...so that would mean some of the claimed players are bad. My first thought here is the romans, although I'll hold off my vote till I've heard some more.

[Bengel54321]

If by french you mean Gaul, Jaguar, you are correct. I was wondering if anyone had picked up my half-roleclaim a few weeks ago...and in fact a tad surprised no one hadn't untill now.

Do you want me to tell everything or is it a bad idea at this point? I'll let the town decide.

[Bengel54321]

I will

Vote Kingenigma

to put some pressure on him and get things moving again.

[Bengel54321]

Now we know that Obelix worked on his own, but he was killed on night 3 and unless we have a copy-cat, I can't seem assign any of the early kills to Obelix, unless it was the missing Geriatrix.

It was Geriatrix.

My role name is Maestra by the way, hence my comment a (long) time ago in French. I thought that would have been sufficient for you guys to figure it out....

Question...don't Roman's use short blades sometimes, or am I 100% wrong about this? I am more and more convinced our last bad guys are the Romans here really...can't think of anything else.

[Bengel54321]

Maestra is a character which only appears in 1 or 2 of the comics I believe. It's on that site somewhere as well Jaguar. (I remember going there to find that French line I posted so you guys could figure out who I was).

I formed (or the person I replaced that is) a small mason group with Impedimenta in the beginning of the game. Females stick together I think...

You are right the Romans can't be the only group left, but looking at the character list I have strong suspicions they are at least 1 of 2 remaining bad guys/groups.

[Bengel54321]

I just remembered something...isn't in 1 of the comics (or was it that movie where they are in Egypt?) Cleapatra trying to poison someone? I vaguely remember something like this...could also be way off though.

[Bengel54321]

Yes of course it is, how else would you be able to find it? At the time I was 100% convinced I had given my role but absolutely no-one commented on it...

And why would I make up the French name or go look for the French name if I'm Belgian (native Dutch) and have English basically as my 2nd language?

You guys are way off here, feel free to investigate me tonight but don't lynch me as we can't get it wrong too many times anymore before we loose this game.

Something else:

What if the nights we had no kills, weren't due to protections etc, but simply because those bad guys didn't send in a kill?

Does anyone have the time (and willingness) to go and look up post counts for those days...and maybe see who replaced who in the days we did have kills again?

[Bengel54321]

Not much to say, you'll know I'm speaking the truth when you lynch me...but then it'll be too late.

I wish someone would look up those replacement and absentee things I mentioned a few posts ago...I am honestly too lazy meself at the moment.

[Bengel54321]

Something else...

FD has been acting quite suspicious lately. The only real thing you have against me which I cannot explain is my rolename.

However he brings other things into this as well:

I had a hard time seeing his role as pro-town

Right...but I have a very hard time seeing the Romans as pro-town as well...not to mention Cleopatra. Why are you so anxious to get someone lynched FD? Any reason seems good for you at the moment.

Vote FD

[Bengel54321]

It's not only the role-NAME, in the comic that woman managed to banish all men from town, she was destroying the entire community. I can't see how Big_Kahunia thinks that is more pro-town than Cleopatra....

And as you said, she turn up good in the end.

Julius Caesar has been trying to destroy the Gauls in every comic he appears...by various means. The fact that you are admitting to be able to talk to him doesn't help. Also...aren't you indirectly also able to talk to the other Roman(s) if they form a group??

Something isn't right here...if you can talk to Thoth and Thoth can talk to the other Romans...why aren't you allowed to talk to them as well? Isn't this kinda stupid...you could just pass messages to each other through Toth anyway!

[Bengel54321]

Funny how 3 out of the 4 votes on me are from the Romans + Cleopatra. They seem very anxious to save themselves today...by getting someone (anyone) else lynched.

[Bengel54321]

Even more "evidence" against the Romans and Cleo for me...my vote stays.

That is kinda what I meant with "try and see who was active or replaced someone the nights we had no kills", thanks Big Kahunia.

[Bengel54321]

Ok...this appears to have been a fairly good night. Mneme was probably killed just for killing Asterix and Thoth by poison, taking FD with him.

This is where we are:

Barbarian - some sort of food-based cop/mason with Mgm?
Bengel II - Maestria
big_kahunia - Vitalstatistix
Cubsfan4life - Justforkix
Jaguar - Dogmatix
Sinister Overlord - Pepe the Spaniard

Of those, at least 1 is a cult chief...probably more (don't think every attempt so far has failed...) and 1 a poisoner.

This appeared to me when I looked over all of it:

Barbarian is the only role having something to do with food. Could it be his role has some sort of ability to check what everybody eats...and that way be able to poison the food in some way?

I'll

FOS Barbarian

but will vote if others agree with me on this. He is also the only one without giving us his role name (my apologies, if he has - I cannot find it).

[Bengel54321]

Sorry for the double post. I just reread my previous post and it occured to me we cannot be certain about the cult part.

There haven't been any attempts to recruit anyone lately (at least none that we are aware of - they still could have happened but in that case they were probably succesfull, which in turn means we'd have a bunch of cultmembers now and the town is probably already lost) so it's not certain there still is a cult right now.

Of course, we could also have a dead cult chief and only cult members left...which means the cult can no longer recruit but is still there.

Sheesh now I've confused myself.

[Bengel54321]

I only meant we cannot be certain there still is a cult in this game at this very moment. We are not given the alignment so the cult

could

be already dead. The only reason I think they could be, is because we haven't had anyone claiming to have been approached for a recruitment in a few nights...which means:

a) there haven't been anymore recruitments
b) the persons that were approached didn't tell us
c) the recruits were successful

If most or all recruits the past few nights were successful, the cult would dominate us right now so I doubt that scenario...I also doubt anyone who was approached at night would fail to tell us...so that leaves option 1. This is all speculation though.

I am waiting for Barbarian.

[Bengel54321]

You spent the entire day yesterday keeping your vote on me...even when some others decided to follow me in my vote for the Romans. Why did you all of a sudden change your thoughts at night and decided to let me live...if you were convinced I was bad during the day??

Could it be because you had a better chance of survival today by letting me, a prime lynch candidate, live so you had a better chance of surviving this next day?

Unfortunatey suspicions came upon you earlier today so you felt cornered...hence your roleclaim.

Also: why oh why do you only come forth now...and not immediately after you first claim?

I don't buy this.

Vote Barbarian

I reserve the right to change my vote as I'm not 100% certain...the question remains why the killings only started the night after mgm died (if I'm not mistaken).

[Bengel54321]

Could we have a prod of Sinister? He hasn't posted in a long, long, long, long time.

[Bengel54321]

Exactly what do you suspect me off? It's not like I am our last killer...you already admitted that!

We really have to get moving people...deadline is approaching rapidly! I am not going to unvote because I think we'll win if we get rid of Barbarian today.

[Bengel54321]

I'll unvote Barbarian because I don't want another no lynch day...but I highly doubt taking out Cubs first will do any good.

Unvote and vote Cubs

[Bengel54321]

*crosses fingers*

[Bengel54321]

I smell like the ocean...why? Read the comics and you will know. Maestria comes from a town near the ocean so in fact the smell matches my role perfectly.

I'm still convinced we'll win by finishing off Barbarian. He obviously didn't kill last night as that would have been his death warrant...

Vote Barbarian

[Bengel54321]

Well bah... Our recruits failed almost every singly night.

I really should have checked the English site instead of the French for my roleclaim as Maestra...that probably would have helped a bit.

Congrats town!