Mean Mod LoveFest - Game Over. But, whowonit?

[Haylen]

VOTE: PROZAC

I shall be refering to him as such all through the game, regardless of whether the mod allows it or not. So tough.

unless threatened with modkill.

Reason for voting: I bet he doesn't love cheese as much as I do, and he only likes some cheese :O
Cheese is good.

You wanted random, you got it

[Haylen]

:O I know exactly who you've been talking to!

[Haylen]

*sigh* Have been asked to refer to players properly in votes, but I didn't go down without fighting.

VOTE: POROCHAZ
reasons as stated above. >.>

[Haylen]

oh ffs.

VOTE: POROCHAZ

Ah well, i do it once per game.

[Haylen]

You said the penguin creeped you out! But fine, since you asked nicely...

[Haylen]

I don't know why people find Mastin's posts long and boring. I kinda enjoy reading them

[Haylen]

You're one in a million, Haylen. Either that, or you haven't seen the full strength of a Mastin-sized post. (Thirty pages in Microsoft Word. Wink)

Meh, I've meta'd you, I know exactly what to expect at this stage in the game ect Everything you've done so far has been very forseeable *shrugs* And long posts don't bother me, I make quite a few of my own Enjoy, guys!

[Haylen]

That post was so funny it'll take me a while to think straight!

It'll take me a long time to think gay.

[Haylen]

We have to use full usernames in votes, Mastin.

[Haylen]

I shall claim: Pepsi Addict. That stuff is bloody great.

[Haylen]

No Random. I will not remove Darth Penguin. Darth Penguin controls my soul, he does not wish to be removed.

[Haylen]

reckon we can make 150 posts by tomorrow (RL tomorrow)

[Haylen]

Random! Get reading!

[Haylen]

Random. Your not being able to read is definately a scum tell

[Haylen]

Mastin, you are like a whirlwind!

[Haylen]

I don't get it either

[Haylen]

Probably Mastin-serious. Although Mastin serious is the only serious i'm willing to accept!

[Haylen]

Claim: Cheese and mushroom Omelette. That's a role too.

[Haylen]

hahaha no!

[Haylen]

@ Mastin - How did you do that weird thing with the link to the post. I know how to get the link to a specific post but I don't know how to make the blue part say what i want it too.

[Haylen]

100 posts already! :O

Hey! It works!

[Haylen]

Are you being 100% serious now?

[Haylen]

Page 6 Wooooooooo!!!

[Haylen]

gimme gimme gimme a man after midnight, wont somebody help me chase these shadows away...

I think the people who haven't posted yet should, well be at page 10 tomorrow if we keep going at this rate. It would be horrible to catch up.

@Kcool - who's the most scummy to you, at present?

[Haylen]

Nah, I'm here, just hiding don't like people saying I'm lurking if I'm not posting because I always leave a page open on mafia scum when doing work. (habit, you know?)

[Haylen]

Isn't ckool still voting me?

The correct question would be, then. Why are you voting for Mastin, ckool? (I swear at i will muck up your name at least thrice this game)

Why don't we just blackmail them and say "Post or we'll get to page twenty"?

YES!!!! Lets!!!

[Haylen]

Ok. I am going to claim: Mastin.

That's my last joke...unless somebody else makes another one.

Hi, Prozac! And catch up. Hi Random and Zazie and other people who I know but don't remember are playing!

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So then, Mastin's death millar claim. Kind of a convenient choice for somebody to claim, especially if they're scum.

[Haylen]

I don't see it

[Haylen]

^ *snigger* at this. Posting thoughts tomorrow. I'm ill.

[Haylen]

It is possible that Ash may be protecting his scumbuddy by suggesting Mastin's a Jester. He may want us to believe so we don't lynch him day one. I think this is a good point.

[Haylen]

(BC - we have to use full names in votes, mod made it clear on the first page.)

Zazie - I've read Mind Screw Mafia 3 and had absolutely no idea what was going on, so I don't consider it a metable game. I will, however, agree with you in mini 763.

No, BC, second place isn't good. We want to win.

[Haylen]

Unvote

Forgot to do that earlier with all the spam. Stop doing that mastin!

[Haylen]

ZazieR still hasn't gotten to this game apparently?

I will (more substantially) after she does

Why wait for Zazie before you discuss what's been going on? There's been enough for you to talk about...are you worried you're going to say something scummy?

[Haylen]

I want to vote either Ortalan for disappearing and refusing to post until Zazie does or Ash for the Jester thing. Of course Mastin is another option. I just thing the Death Miller claim and the Jester FoS are just a little bit convenient.
Therefore, I'll

Vote: AshMC1984

You think what is a good point? The one you just made yourself?

I was making the point that I think it's a very good point and I wont be swayed otherwise. People like saying my logic is totally illogical, if you don't believe me on that go read my other games. This is me trying to improve my play.

I'm still ill at the moment so will post more tomorrow.

[Haylen]

I see the logic in that Ortolan, it's just the way you worded it earlier.

[Haylen]

Oh god, Mastin's going V/LA, I smell 11 pages of catch up posts coming our way regardless of whether we actually post anything whilst he's gone.

[Haylen]

Randomlunatic is V/LA. He went on holiday a few days ago and shall be returning on the 3rd. He has also posted this in the 'V/LA' thread, if you want to check.

Hi, Sykedoc, btw.

I shall post my views on yesterday in my next post.

[Haylen]

Zazie, my role name is Reviver.

I can definately see BC as being possible scum, with either Tajo or ckool. Will elaborate later, busy right now.

[Haylen]

I'm a Reviver, it's a protown role and means I have the ability to be revived the next day if NK'd or lynched. But only once. But for some reason, I have to wait one day and one night before this ability works. So basically, I got the role PM of a Reviver, but am more like a delayed reviver, if that makes sense to you.

[Haylen]

Zazie, a Reviver always flips townie when lynched or NK'd.
I think the rolename question is valid, however, I still believe the roles people flipped and I can only imagine them having those roles...I'm not really flexible with things like this, I'm not sre if claiming SK was just Mastin being Mastin. However, since more peoples are strange, I guess it's true.

[Haylen]

Do you have a link of a game in which a reviver was?

This was on IRC with Xylbot that I've seen it before. Am I correct in saying that Xyl makes everything as close to the mafia roles as he possibly can with Xybot?

Haylen, can you paraphrase your PM?

Hmm...I have to be very careful here, my paraphrasing usually = copying, which is why I don't tend to do it in games.

I'm a reviver, it's a protown role. I can be lynched or NK'd once. It's an interesting role because I revive myself a day and night later, which isn't typical with normal revivers.

So I'm guessing the mod probably has mucked around with the roles quite a bit, this being a umm B. Mod. game.

[Haylen]

Um. Random was, and still is, on holiday. Would you like me to send you a link to the V/LA thread (

If his Modship will let me

)?

BC - You can post from Ipods? Ipods can have internet? Really? Wow...why doesnt mine...

[Haylen]

Sykedoc, please please stop it with the colours, I'm ill right now and they're given me a huge headache.

How did I feel about Day Two?
Yeah, lynching Mastin was a huge cock up, but when I was following, I agreed with you all and believed he was scum too.

I don't think Random's scum because he's been playing exactly as he did in his first two games, but the fact I can't compare his town playstyle to a mafia playstyle kinda sucks cause it means I could be wrong.

Zazie: This is our mod.

[Haylen]

Don't worry. I'm hoping BM does.

[Haylen]

Vote: BloodCovenent

Your vote lacks substance. I want an answer as to why you think he's scum.

[Haylen]

Well, you aswell then. I skim read from where i got up to earlier, which was your vote.

By the way, are you admitting to your vote lacking substance?

[Haylen]

Anyone mind if I come back later?

In two of my games the deadline is today...ie less than 5 hrs.

[Haylen]

No. I'm currently busy.

[Haylen]

Hmm...I don't think Zazie is scum, he played differently when we played together in a Vengeful. If he is scum, I think he'd have a more complicated role than a goon. I don't know if people play differently when they have different scum roles though, so don't take my word for that.

I also don't believe Random is scum, he played exactly the same as he has in his last two games. And the points he have made have been worth noting. For example, his posts against Kcool and BC, I am in agreement with.

BC, what is your opinion on the lack of 3 night kills last night? I mean, going from 3 to 0 is a big leap?

Also, how do we know that Mastin was a compulsive Vig? For all we know there could still be 3 scumteams...Or one scumteam and 2 protown killing roles. Personally, I wouldn't put it past the mod.

[Haylen]

No, i mean the complulsive part. He said he didnt send in his night action but 3 people died anyway.

[Haylen]

Oh crap, sorry! I forgot to write in this game (in fact i forgot in every game except one), I've been semi V/LA since Friday as my days have mainly been taken up with work and driving lessons. I should be free after 3 oclock tomorrow...that's when my driving test is.

Anyway, Random will be without internet until tomorrow, which means he probably wont be able to defend himself against any bandwagon that may form against him.

Why are you voting for Random, BC?

[Haylen]

Zazie. Sorry, your gonna have to wait for me to answer that. I'm feeling really really upset today. I can barely write this. Might need to go V/LA for a few days to pull myself together. Don't want to talk about it.

I'll try and explain why BC later in the day.

[Haylen]

Still V/LA, but need clarification on this.
Did Kai just claim scum? Cause ckool said he investigate him and got an innocent which is why he thinks he's an insane cop, and because of things Kai has said on this page, like admitting to one of the killings...and if he isn't innocent, wh would he want a confirmed townie alive, i dont get it. Can somebody please clarify?

[Haylen]

I think that's a scumslip.

(slowly getting back into posting.)

[Haylen]

It is a possibility. There were 3 kills on Night One. One of those was Mastins, who was a vig, which leaves either another vig and a scumteam, two mafia families ( if you get what I mean there) or one mafia and an SK. The two mafia families seems plauable because of the 'godmother' role. But I would be open to the idea of an SK.

What if Haylen is a anti-death miller - reviver?

What the heck? How would that role work?

[Haylen]

ckool, you're last post seems like you had gone through and pointed out what you could use as possible breadcrumbs. And it seems a little bit weird that you would do something the wiki has told you to do. Wouldn't other players (including scum) have read the wiki too?

[Haylen]

Do people actually have so much free time to go through the whole wiki?...

I did, but do you?

Um...I have 50 pages of a word document filled with meta from people in all the games i've been in. I also use the GD and MD threads for these purposes. So, using this as proof that I actually do the homework for my games...I sure as hell hope that I've read the wiki as much detailed as you have, maybe more.

[Haylen]

I have a question. Dude claims SK. Dude isn't lynched?

[Haylen]

haha ckool. You joined the same date as i did, of course you're inexperienced. lol.

[Haylen]

Vote: Ckool

I think he is more likely to be scum than BC right now, in fact, I think he's scum with BC. He made a very shakey claim as an insane cop. For a start, he wouldn't be called a 'naive cop', i've never seen that term be used in any mafia game that i've read. And based on the 50 pages of meta, i've read A LOT of games. I think it's painstakenly obvious that you've read the wiki and decided what to do from there without actually thinking others might read it too. Although, I wonder...why didn't you claim 'Random Cop'? The wiki says that's more of a bastard role, and wouldnt it not be more common in this game? I think saying the amount of detail you've read the wiki in has been your downfall.

Also, about his claim, 'you're a cop but you're not very good', that sounds like something he's dragged out of thin air considering the paraphrasing of my role PM and everybody elses. In fact, Kai, can you paraphrase your role PM to make my point clear here.

His actions on Day One and Two are pretty scrutinisable.

And my instinct has been telling he's you're scum since Day One, and I've learnt I should listen to it.

[Haylen]

Sykedoc, you need to be more active, I actually forgot you were in the game. As Zazie said, a claim and paraphrase would be much appreciated.

I was thinking whilst I was at work today. What if we have 2 scum families as I originally speculated? I have an odd feeling that Kai might actually be a mafia godfather, due to the godmother role Ash had. Godfather's are NK immune, which means the other scumgroup wouldn't be able to kill him at night. Claiming SK would be perfect for him because (for the reasons he's given) theoretically he wouldn't be lynched or nightkilled which would mean he and his scum family would win.

[Haylen]

Yep... I'm the only one who ended up not getting anything interesting (which ironically is why I joined this game)

*blink* you knew what role you would have before the game?

[Haylen]

why are you convinced? I also would like Zazie to hammer ckool. Maybe it's because he's worried about hammering his partner...and fearing Kai will NK him tonight for being possible mafia...

[Haylen]

Ok. Time to put forward cases and thoughts. I would like a reminder of the paraphrasing of your PM's.

[Haylen]

Sykedoc, I want an explanation for the coloured letters. Nobody does anything in Mafia without a reason.

[Haylen]

Sykedoc, can you link me to the post in which BC cleared you?

(I want you to explain the colours because they have been used in other games as breadcrumbs)

[Haylen]

Also, why do we have a seer in a none werewolf game?

[Haylen]

seer's only detect werewolves. So you could still be mafia.

[Haylen]

Yes a seer is a type of cop. Who detects werewolves. It says so in the wiki.

[Haylen]

And how do you know what type of seer he was?

[Haylen]

Ok, so there are 3 of us left. There were 2 kills last night which means you're both probably scum. Or one of you is really a Vig, if one of you is own up now so we can lynch the scum.

[Haylen]

If you are both scum than myself and the town are screwed. Unless we no lynch and you both kill each other...

[Haylen]

Oh yeah.

[Haylen]

Syke, this is lylo. I am covering every possibility so town can win. You have the same aim, correct?

Zazie, why were their 2 NK's then? If we only have one scum?

[Haylen]

If one of you is an SK and the other scum, as was orignally brought up. (by Zazie, in fact) then there would be two scum.

[Haylen]

hmm...because BC has cleared you of being scum, Sykedoc. I am going to

Vote: ZazieR

His claim was shakey. I have never heard of the role 'Strong Man'

And if the town can't win, I would rather Mafia didn't/

[Haylen]

If I am wrong about my read on you, Sykedoc, this is so messed up.

[Haylen]

I never needed to claim before I was resurrected. But I am a Reviver and I can come back to life once if I'm killed. But because this is a B Mod game, I'm more like a delayed reviver because I come back after a day and night.

Hmm...I've just had a thought. Since this is a B-mod game, it is likely that the mod may have given the scum party 2 night kills just to trick us. Cause I mean, you're a townie and I believe you on that, and I'm a Reviver which is a town role, which means this is the only explanation. But also because this is a B Mod game, how likely would it be that the Mod is killing somebody off each night and saying it's a night kill? He made it a rule in BM's Mystery that the only way to win would be to vote for the mod...

I will find that link for you now.

[Haylen]

Zazie made his claimhere. It is a very good claim though, it's all the rest of the roles in this game are ones that people have heard of.

Zazie, who did you protect last night?

[Haylen]

Unless, you're the scum and BC was lying to protect you? But why would he do that? It could be some messed up B Mod thing, with you both winning if you survive in a weird Lovers thing. But that's just weird. But it is B Mod. Argh! You're all making my mind explode.

Hmm...really need to think about this more...and hope my mind doesnt actually explode.

[Haylen]

I'm not sure what you mean by you're first possibily. As a reviver, I flip town on death, like all other town players.

Hmm...the fact you are not hammering suggests to me you are town.

[Haylen]

Ah ok. Well I'm pretty sure the mod would inform me if that happened, and he hasn't. So I guess I'm cleared there ^.^

See, im just worried, Syke, that BC's ability was actually for werewolves. I can't be too sure here, in a B Mod game, understand what I mean?

[Haylen]

Also, why does the title of this thread have 'final day' with a question mark?

[Haylen]

BM, you killed the convo. Thanks.

But you could still be a townie who is actually scum. Hmm...so confusing.

[Haylen]

Zazie, i thought you were looking at the game today? You have to go in 30 minutes...

[Haylen]

Hmm...I have tried decoding Sykedoc's coloured letters and got nothing from a decoder or an anagram solver. I am still wary of it though.

[Haylen]

It's not funny! I also translated the Latin, French, Spanish, Italian and German words that could be formed.

[Haylen]

haha ok. I checked and you have. Why have i not meta's you already ?
Lol, I'm one of the most paranoid players you'll ever might. I use the policy: there is a reason for everything someone does in their games...i just got the wrong reason >.<

[Haylen]

that is true. So are you the same alignment here as you were in your last game?

[Haylen]

Death Note Mafia.

[Haylen]

lol you posted in it.

[Haylen]

I will be V/LA tomorrow and most of friday. I will be out drinking in somebodies back garden. The Mod is well aware of this.

[Haylen]

Right. So, I feel sick.

Zazie, fancy posting any time soon? I know you've been on the site and posting in your other games, and I'm talking to you right now on AIM.

Why do you think there is only one scumteam when there were 2 NK's last night? Is it because as a B Mod game, the mod has given the scumteam two NK's per night?

Or is there some sort of B Mod thing involved with Sykedoc too...he could be a godfather, they show up as town to cops/seers.

Hmm...if there is a B Mod thing involved where the scum get 2 NK's, then that's ok, the town can still win. Just need to pick the right person as scum (I think it's Zazie, in that case).

But, if there if there are two scumteams, then I've lost anyway. But, I personally believe that there is only one scumteam with 2 NK's because of Zazie's slip earlier.

Excuse my ponderings...

[Haylen]

First of all, need to get the vocabulary straight: Are SK's scum? Cause in all of my games, I have been refering to the as a whole separate group. But Zazie appears to be swapping and changing: one minute they're scum, the next they're a whole separate group.

Zazie, I used 'I've' because as

I

see it,

I'm

the only town player left.

I

need to win this for the town so

I

have to vote correctly.

Which is why

I

am now going to am now happy with my vote. If Sykedoc were scum, he would've hammered already, unless he was either mafia or an SK looking for who the other non-player is...

I could say the same for you not wanting a no-lynch...but at I didn't come into the day literally on the defensive.

Btw, would the scum and/or SK or whatever the heck is going on here, explain why I am still alive? Scum should've killed me days ago...unless Zazie told them not too cause he thought he could convince me he's the doc...type...thing, Zazie knows I'm pretty easily influenced...I think he thought he could convince me he was town and the other player was scum, so whatever alignment he is will win. This is also how Zazie's play and claim make sense.

I don''t think meta works on me. I try to play scum as if I''m town as I have told you.

This makes your question invalid anyway, since according to you, you have no style of play.

Speaking of his claim...didn't he claim 'Strong Man'? The rest of the roles in the game are ones that have been seen before in Mafia. It is an obvious fake claim. We've had godmother, tracker, cop, seer, reviver, godfather, bus driver, Vig, lovers and townies. Spot the difference between the other roles and Zazie's claim.

You said in an earlier post that you wanted to remember I am a Reviver. Why? You say above that you didn't protect me at any point. Surely a doc would automatically protect the confirmed townie? It makes sense, because scum dont want a confirmed townie in lylo. I think you were breadcrumbing to make me think you were a doc so I wouldn't push for your lynching...it just makes my theory seem more correct.

Nope, I mean the slip where you said there was no SK...need to find that as a quote though, I may be misremembering (will do that after i post this)

Also, explain to me why you are attacking a confirmed townie?

Yes, I am a confirmed townie because: I'm a Reviver. Who was NK'd. Flipped townie. Became what i would describe as being a normal townie after ressurection because I am unable to use my reviver ability anymore as it could only be used once.

Also, if BC was correct and Sykedoc is town, that leaves a scumteam with the ability to send in 2 NK's.

Which is why I want you lynched, Zazie.

[Haylen]

I shall be reading through your posts tomorrow, Zazie.

[Haylen]

Sorry, here'sZazie's claim, Sykedoc, I got preoccupied when I was supposed to link it before.

[Haylen]

Doesn't explain the 'I'-comment. Because as you just stated, when one town player is alive at the end, town as a whole wins.

Well what other pronoun am I supposed to use? I don't feel like typing out 'The Town' after every sentence so I just write 'I'. I have to win this for the town and be hailed a hero. Btw, since you have been watching the majority of my games, you should surely have noticed by now that I use the same language all through as town. I always speak using 'I' rather than 'The Town'. The fact that you are misrepresenting me in this way and failing to remember this fact is just giving you extra scumpoints.

Explain to me why you think there is only an SK left? There were two kills last night, if you look back. And I've already stated: either you're mafia with 2 kills or you're an SK and Syke is a godfather (who would turn up town to a cop). Now that you've just said there is only an SK left, I believe that you're an SK with 2 kills. Since you've been saying theres only an SK left and are failing to take into account the second kill.

Also, I the fact that you and only you have answered a question that I started with 'Would the scum and/or SK whatever the heck is going on here, explain why...' That's a slip in itself.

And that question was not rhetorical, I wanted an answer from the scum/mafia/SK/whatever the bloody hell... and I got one.

I am not assuming you to be mafia, I think you're an SK with 2 NK's now. Up until now, I have been swapping between SK and Mafia as to what you could be and i've been refering to you as mafia in a generalistic way.

It makes sense for you to hint at a doc like role, because you've said it yourself, there was a high chance of there being one when you claimed. And as I've already stated, you already know that I'm very easily influenced in my games, if you hint at something I'm likely to pick up on it and believe you. A reviver that is unable to use their ability anymore needs to have a doc around otherwise they will get picked off by the mafia very quickly. And since there was somebody who hinted at being a doc, it is very unlikely that they are going to go after a confirmed townie when there is a person hinting doc.

Speaking of which, explain this to me, If i was scum as you are saying rather than a reviver, why would I claim I was a reviver knowing that there is another scum faction out there who could kill me? That doesn't make sense.

Where have you seen the role 'Strong Man' before, cause I haven't seen it, and it isn't in the wiki and I havent seen Xylbot use it either.

Like I said, I think you're a 2 NK SK.

[Haylen]

Since it looks like there is going to be a No Lynch, I wonder who you're going to kill tonight Zazie. Bet you it's both me and Syke leading you to victory. That is why I did not want a no lynch.

[Haylen]

Ok. This has to be said.

IWONIWONIWONIWONIWONIWONIWONIWONIWONIWONIWONIWONIWONIWONIWON!

My first win on my own

What did you all think of my claim

[Haylen]

Kai, I killed you because I knew you were scum, cause you claimed my role, so I killed you. Yeah, i literally played with no strategy what-so-ever and am quite pleased I won a game of logic and psychology by being illogical, unpredictable and completely blocking out all psychology.

I had to say something, I knew one kill was from me but didnt know where the other came from. Having never played in a multiple scum faction game before, I didn't know one scum's NK would still go through even if they were kill that night. So I genuinely believed that Zazie was scum. I had no idea I was the last scum here...thought Sykedoc could be a godfather because of the innocent results from BC.

[Haylen]

No, Kai. Your Night One actions aren't right. There weren't 3 kills, only two. I chose to die, it was my ability.

[Haylen]

Kai: Why did you claim my role?

Ash: Why suggest Mastin was a Jester?

And the B-Mod wins the game for the SK.

What do you mean? I won this game fair and square.

Hehe, Now people can't say im sucky...