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I'm ACTUALLY going to reread this. I started and am finding little nuggets already so I'll have some kinda powerbomb catchup post in the future times.
So, don't recap I dont want to cloud this read.-
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Its totally what I meant though and his ability to parse that isn't really putting words in my mouth. I glanced back at the last couple of pages and went "welp, if its all like this then not reading it."
I'm making PROGRESS but lord the slog.-
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Ok, caught up.
General Notes:
I would have totally been all over both Manho and McG. Thats a rarity for two town lynches to go through that I would have been A++ ok with. Manho only showed a little bit of eye raising towards the end that would have made me question it. But, no sad there.
How in the blue heavens has wolf not got some more heat? If not for Reck-Snail 2010 I'd be pushing that real, real hard. For a lot of reasons. In fact, I still may push that way but I'll get to the why I'm for dealing with this Reck situation NOW versus waiting in a bit.
iLord's prescience confuses me. A lot. I'm really, REALLY not sure what the hell to make of that whole scenario. It double confused me when the next day he downplayed it but.
BV needs to take a bullet real hard. Or a rope.
The mass exodus to tate at 835-839 can't be all town. It just makes the mind blow - DOUBLY so when so many vanished when pie jumped in before he said anything. (Oddin, Animo, iLord, CMAR, BV)
The GOOD STUFF
This is my favorite part!
Pie, Elvis, ABR - Town* for sho'
ODDin, Anim - Town* if BV is scum. Otherwise it gets a little itchy.
*Town is an issue because we have a cult in this game. Which leads me to:
Current Events
Note: I haven't looked at the signup thread. I haven't really read in-depth the op. If I'm missing something integral let me know sooner versus later.
While, normally, I totally dig ABR's stance about this there's a big issue: we are dealing with a cult. Which, from the looks of things we'd have to strike off at the head.
That said: There are Zombie Lords. Plural.
For balance sake I have to operate under two. (If there is three then there can't be any other anti-town factions of not).
So, there are two scenarios:
1.) There are two Zombie Lords as a unified group.
2.) There are two separate Zombie Lords doing stuff.
#1 is awesome and what I'm hoping for.
#2 means that we're looking at a spread of recruits.
However, before I digress too far:
If evilsnail is telling the truth about N1 then Reck isn't just a zombie, but has to be a zombie lord.
While I absolutely don't like the way the claim went out and the weirdness of snipin' time this is enough to roll on. If there are two groups that eliminates one entirely and if just a singular entity then that REALLY increases the chances for victory.
That alone is enough for me to slap on the reck vote. Risk/Reward
Vote: Reck-
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HURF
I see no active reason right now to out our very, very hypothetical vigs.So, SpyreX, you think it is a good idea for us to out our vig(s) and have them NKd by the cult?
However, if it were to happen I'd be fine with it because killing the vig means not getting a recruit so if you really need an answer to this question then yes. By all means.-
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I'm not sure what you're getting at that would lead to more Zombie Lords. A cult with 3 Zombie Lords would be a HUGE mess.
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If, with what was going on, either of those shots were vig shots I'd be flabbergasted. Yos especially would be hat-eating territory.
But, yes, if there is a vig who took those shots claim now. Or, if that doesn't strike your fancy at minimum shoot snail (or if you are tech shoot wolf but).
I dig looking for other angles but Razor is those are cult-deaths.
And I think crippling the heart of the cult or killing one of the snakes entirely is a pretty solid reason to push this through versus waiting.
And if we're gonna wait (which would be a bad idea IMO) I'm pushing for wolf death.-
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IF a vig took those shots then the chances of snail being full of it go way up. So, in that situation said vig would be at minimum keeping a mislynch and could shoot a recruit.
So, I understand PIE's sentiment.
However, a vig hasn't done that so I think we're not going to see hit happen and this is all hypothetical.
So, I think we're looking at Razor.
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Personally, for balance reasons (I'm REALLY not sure what one would do with the recruits if two sets of cult) I'm assuming one cult with 2 ZL's starting out. Still swingy but WAY more balanced than 2 separate ones depending.-
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Ohh, wolf-gate:
There's your classic "huh" statements such as:
There's the fact that even though we've hit 100 posts from him for the most part its one liners and really nothing awesome.Actually now that I think about it, why do you believe MrSuave is the best wagon?As far as I can find the only thing(s) you have against him are his posts and inactivity. As it stands you have already apologized for being inactive yourself.
But, what gets me is two parts:
Part 1:356 wrote: In fact unless i am wrong, you better pray that is not a mod kill offense.
Important: Modkill discussion was at 354. This happened before Reck posted.358 wrote: I do not know is linking an on going game counts as that or not, i really hope it doesn't because I don't like seeing players mod killed, but if it is against that rule maybe you can just get a warning.
Also it isn't that iLord wanted just a game that is not a cult game, he wanted a 12 player game that had only 2 scum in it since that is what everyone is talking about with you. I really don't want to say anything else on the matter though because it is going to be up to Farside if it is a violation or not.
Wolf wrote:Let's once again drop the mod kill discussion only because if it was killable, farside would have done so already. Lets move on.Wolf wrote:^^ this. tate i believe the rule you should play to win applies to you, and you sir are not playing to win.
unvote, vote tate
So, not once, but twice do we see backhanded modkill talk. And, of course telling others not to talk about what he wasWolf wrote:Elvis didn't personally attack anyone, if anything he was attacking himself. For someone who's case on another person is that he was pushing for modkills you sure are quick to try and get someone else modkilled.the first one to bring up. And then the modkill / modkill business.
The first quote made me go "WHAT" and the modkill business cemented it. There's other little things that don't add up to as much as I'd like so I'm not gonna play pad the case but.-
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God I double failed.
But, seriously - thats one of those weights where his being alive makes me think there is a single zombie group with 2 zombie lords because pretty sure we dont have a vig.-
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I tend to agree ABR - cult setup "hey do nothing" with conflicting results definitely helps one side more than the other. That when joined with the fact ES telling the truth is a huge boon. Well-
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Why such an elaborate way of saying "I believe reck and ES is a recruit"I highly disagree with a xReckx lynch as I tend to actually believe him more. But I also believe we should target someone else with our lynch today rather than evilsnail, xReckx, ODDin, or bv310.-
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I'm absolutely baffled and I'm PRETTY sure this makes me want to lynch Reck all the more. "Ohh snap cop claim" is way to shady in a cult game for this business and I am not amused.
If Reck is scum, I'd totally put starbuck down in the ropin' category. Of course, I'm really not sure what to make of wolf's last post - confirmation bias is making me salivate at it like wolf.
But, still. Between Reck and ES we have a scum. If ES is scum he's a recruit. If Reck is scum he's a Lord. Opting to NOT TAKE ACTION on this is flabbergasting.-
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So, when tomorrow comes around and both of them are alive and we get another innocent we get to do this again - with another cult more likely than not.
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I'm pretty sure Pie needs to register Sandwiches_are_good.
Dare I ask what added me to this illustrious band?CMAR wrote:No. I think it's ridiculous. I'm not "flailing" as I am positive I am right. I provided and pushed on McGriddle, I have started discussion with the entire xReckx-ES ordeal, and I have provided my honest opinion on the fact that either MrSuave, Pie, and now Spyrex should be lynched (Diamond was just as useless before him) before xReckx, ES, or me.
I like how I'm useless though. Just as useless as my predecessor. (Super HI-C tip: this is the first time you've ever mentioned me)
If it wasn't for Reck being a Zombie Lord if he is scum this is where I'd go. That possibility is enough for me to push this lynch despite how much I want to cast SUMMON HANGIN' ROPE on CMAR.-
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Cracking down a ZL early versus late game is always, always a better idea.
Especially considering the cult aspect giving even MORE excuses to not lynch them. When you run into situations where VTs get recruited and then have reasons to commit suicide to protect said roles.... well.
This lynch is a bad lynch and I am not happy with it.-
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I wasn't trying to dodge anything. Perhaps I didn't make it clear enough though:@SpyreX: You nicely dodged that question. I understand that you don't want the scum to recruit townies. My question was "why does lynching Reck tomorrow make it more likely that townies get recruited?"
I think Reck is a ZL. Crippling the ZL's is universally better early because it eliminates factors later and forces a scramble by the entire faction to protect a single leader versus having a scapegoat to sacrifice if necessary.
Lynching Reck, ultimately, doesn't alter the towny getting recruited tonight. However, Reck-ZL tomorrow assuming recruit has another body to act as a shield and cause problems. And....
Of course, the simple fact that the chances of ES OR Reck being killed are absolutely minimal so we will be doing this dance again tomorrow does not thrill me. So, this will be dealt with then.
Which, of course, is a day NOT going for the OTHER ZL which is another potential recruit tomorrow night.-
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"Ohh lord, we must protect the PR's at all costs. Even if we think they are scummy. Quick, young bucks, shift thine wagon!"
*PR Claim*
"Foreasmuch as we didn't want to slay dost PR before, we must again!"
*PR Claim*
"Wow. There sure is a lot of PR's. Better keep on truckin!"
(What do you think would be here)
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We have a cult. I'm still seeing no evidence to point to a scum at the mo'.
This means that there is a Zombie Lord Busdriver OR Snail is telling the truth.
OR Town did this and didn't fess up which, welp.-
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Hey THIS:
Am I missing something? I expect some words.We have a cult. I'm still seeing no evidence to point to a scum at the mo'.
This means that there is a Zombie Lord Busdriver OR Snail is telling the truth.
OR Town did this and didn't fess up which, welp.-
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Its like being in the back seat of the race car going 100 towards the clilff and watching the bottle of JD in the drivers hands just keep going down and down and down his gullet and going "hay, maybe we should turn away" and they just giggle and hit the accelerator.-
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Its been a long day and watching this go down like this makes my teeth itch. You were the bastion of sanity I had in this game. (ABR was too, but jumping on your wagon.. blah)-
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ES is either balls to the wall lucky (twice now he's had results on PR's and both, from his point of view, pointed to scum) or, in fact, does what his role does.
If that is the case, Reck targeted KMD. At a point where there would be no recruits.
Thus, Reck is scum.-
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Hold.
Sly, you have proof ES is lying?
Unvote, Vote: ES
This knot needs to be fixed. Today. There's enough information that I'm fine with this.
Additionally if this FLIP IS TOWN I am going to be super mega pissed if there isn't a vig-shot body tomorrow.-
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That's all cute and stuff Grim if this didn't become a focal point OVER AND OVER.
It needs to go. I still, STILL, think its Reck but since we've got a flat out "this is a lie" business whatever.-
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God I need the list of interactions in one simple spot.
And Percy lets not play slappywigs and just get it out here - NO ONE should have had any reason to target CMAR.
Even less so than the "vig" NOT SHOOTING one of ES or Reck.-
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Dont think I've forgot about you mr wolfy either. If we had opted to do well, anything, the day that ended in a pie lynch you'd have your moment in the spotlight.
But, now we wait for a flip.-
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Ohh I'm banking on recruit.Eh, SlySly's not a conventional player - it wouldn't be wise to assume that he can't be scum with RECK. Plus, it'd look awfully awkward if SlySly stopped attacking RECk after ABR died.
Which, realistically, we can't be hunting for at this point with some of the amazing things that have happened.-
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