Square Enix Mafia I: Diabolus Erus (GAME OVER)

[Starbuck]

Catching up in a bit guys.

[Starbuck]

Mod: Can you please update the first post to reflect my entrance into the game? TY. <3

I am quite a bit lost with all this flavor. I'm not really an FF fan.

Wow, get rid of ABR and Reck on N0! Thanks for saving us from their angry sexual tension! I have a good amount of experience with both Reck and ABR.


So, the beginning Vote Count starts with a vote on Glork? Why?

On PranaDevil

Second, where does it say "lightning bolt"? It says electrocuted.Which are two different things as far as I'm concerned. So I'm not about to go voting someone based on such flimsy reasoning.

How is it flimsy? Besides the flavor clearly stating it, did you not take elementary science? What happens when a lightning bolt hits ANYTHING?



Also, saying things like....

Am I now? That's interesting, considering I'm not. Which means you're either really bad scum (you've been here about 6 years, I doubt that), or you're town and have made a right royal pigs ear of something.

and

So no, I'm not scum, and I don't even think you are, you're town with a role that's giving you false information of some kind.

Aren't really good ways to start off a game or to get suspicion off you.


I'm also not keen on Prana's jumpiness. It's like he's scrambling already.


It looks like my predecessor already placed the vote, sweet.

On Devotress

I'm not comfortable with Devotress's lets wait til tomorrow to lynch Iec. Setting up lynches isn't a pro-town play in my book.

FOS: Devotress

[Starbuck]

On Devotress

The intent isn't to set up a future incerint lynch but to put off an Icerint lynch people are trying to get happening today, there is a difference in that.

Not to say I don't want to lynch him tomorrow. But the whole "let's lynch him tomorrow" thing came out of me wanting to avoid messing up on a death miller and having false info.

There is no difference. You are still trying to set up a lynch.

You are just trying to pussyfoot around the reasoning now.

On PranaDevil

How is it flimsy? Besides the flavor clearly stating it, did you not take elementary science? What happens when a lightning bolt hits ANYTHING?

That's beside the point, it's flimsy because he's claimed sodding Ramah! It hasn't been contested (and if he's lying... no, the real one shouldn't step forward until it's worth doing so), and thus he's not going to be scum in this game. Thus it's flimsy logic to focus on a good guy.

I've already stated once that I am not familiar with the flavor in this game. So you ranting on about who someone claimed is not going to help me understand where you are coming from.

It's not good to assume that just because someone hasn't been counterclaimed that they are being true. It's Day 1.

It's also not a good idea to assume that good guys are immediately good and vice versa, especially since this is a Kise game.


Your supposed "case" and "vote" on Zodiark in Post 259 lacks all stability and I'll tell you why.

Okay, a quick re-read of things... and Zodiark stands out to me, he came in, had a couple of posts talking about possible characters which didn't really help us any

How and why didn't it help us any?

followed that up with a bunch of nothing posts, and ends with what still amounts to nothing

What exactly?

even more so with using "OMGUS" as a reason why he would be voted by Glork.

Why?

Zodiark has offered us zero this entire game, but has made it "appear" like he has. That's scummy as far as I'm concerned.

Where? Do you have specific examples?


Also, did you answer this question from Wolf yet?

@Prana
What is the difference between Zodiarks absence and bv310? or Killa seven for that matter? Is it just the topics that each have/haven't?

It probably seems like I'm questioning Prana hard, and I am. It feels opportunistic to me because he jumped all over Zodiark's ass, but hasn't provided any examples or any questions towards Zodiark.

[Starbuck]

It's already been established (in this thread, multiple times) that Ramah is not the one, and only, lightning based character. Therefore, it goes without saying that it's probable that other lightning based characters will be in the game.

Holy shit, it's the Master of the Obvious!

I already knew the above are you purposely trying to make me look stupid to further yourself? Because it's not working.

But are you honestly suggesting we lynch people who are more inclined to be on the side of the town (based on the games at hand), purely because "OMG He's lightning, and we had a lightning attack"?

Where in the hell did you get that from what I said?

Straw man much?

I never said anything about lynching anyone because they have a certain attack.

As for good guys aren't immediately good, that is true. However by the same token, the first two guys killed are both good, and one of them is a mason... a mason who would be part of a group called Avalanche in FFVII (This has been brought up before too, more often than once again, so if you've somehow missed this, you need a re-read), therefore it's relatively safe to assume (at this point) that good will be on the side of good in this game.

I will say again in large type for you since you seem to keep ignoring this fact.

I KNOW LITTLE TO NOTHING ABOUT THE FINAL FANTASY UNIVERSE.

I did, in fact, see that one of them flipped mason and I read all of that. So to insinuate that I didn't read it is a little too much. It's like you are trying to build a case on me with extremely flimsy reasoning.

Do an ISO on Zodiark if you can't answer those for yourself... it feels like you're stretching to negate my points on Zodiark, as opposed to actually paying attention to them yourself.

This is a cop out. I am asking you to further elaborate & explain your case on Zodiark. Your refusal subsequent snarkiness proves to me that you were trying to take the lazy way out.

Also, I'm asking you questions, so how am I "stretching to negate your points"? I just want you to elaborate.

But to dumb it down for you:

This is unnecessary and a personal insult because I never once called you dumb or stupid. I may be challenging your case, but I'm not insulting your intelligence. Cut it out.



It just seemed to me that once your previous case fell through that you decided to go back and see who would be the easiest person to get a lynch on. You seemed to content to ride out that flimsy case and with a little pressure, look! You have a very decent case on him. That's the difference between your post with your vote on Zodiark and what you just posted.

[Starbuck]

EDBWOP: That should be

Your refusaal AND subsequent snarkiness

[Starbuck]

That was what I posted originally though, just in a cut down version the first time around, as there was little, to no, reason to point each post out individually, as otherwise I would have simply been linking to his entire post history.

As for not understanding the FF universe, that's fine, however, others have already elaborated on those points, which means it's pointless bringing them up now, unless you haven't read what they were saying.

First off, did you not see that I replaced in? So therefore, I WASN'T AROUND when most of that was being discussed? Why are you making a mountain out of a molehill?

Also, there is always a reason to point out each post individually. You can keep saying that this person did this or did that, but if you don't ever provide examples then you don't have a leg to stand on.

[Starbuck]

Bill - Glork started the game with one vote on him.

[Starbuck]

His last post was on the 13th.

Go down to the bottom below the Quick Reply box.

You will see this...


Display posts from previous: All - by All - Oldest First

Under the All users, choose the person you want to see and then choose Newest first instead of Oldest first and then hit Go.

That's how people do what's called ISO.

[Starbuck]

@bill1148 - Thanks for pointing out the error.

It's also not a good idea to assume that good guys are immediately good and vice versa, especially since this is a Kise game.

That wasn't meant to be mean, Kise!

It was a compliment at your awesome game making abilities!

[Starbuck]

And Zodiark, as everyone else said, you are either V/LA across all games or none. You can't pick and choose.

[Starbuck]

It's NOT bad form to replace out if you have a lot going on in real life. It's a fucking courtesy.

Vote: Zodiark

[Starbuck]

If not for Zodiark, I'd want to lynch Prana.

Something about him squirming this early just doesn't feel right.

[Starbuck]

It's not a catch 22, Zodiark.

I want a list of your top three suspects and why in your next post.


Quit skirting around.

[Starbuck]

Are you serious?

You have NOTHING AT ALL ?

If you are town, this is atrocious behavior.

[Starbuck]

Zodiark, that is just sad that you are going to let one person effect your ability to help town win this game.

If you do flip as town, your words and what you think will mean more to those who are pro-town.

Your actions right now make it so that I never want to play another game with you. Do the right thing and change my mind.

[Starbuck]

Yeah, I forgot to unvote. Kise is already making fun of me in PM about it.

Unvote,
Vote: Zodiark

[Starbuck]

It's also interesting to note just one person died last night, not two, so either someone didn't send in a kill, or they did, but they went after someone who didn't die from their attack through some elemental protection stuff.

This sounds like you are trying to explain why your kill didn't go through.

Also, it's WIFOM.




I'm not familiar with FF. Can someone explain "Doom" to me?

[Starbuck]

More trying to explain why someone elses didn't go through.

It's still WIFOM. Why you would even bring it up is confusing me.

[Starbuck]

I think I'm the one that got doomed.

I was told that I watched a member of my party (Wedge) get killed by a tornado, that I'm wondering how to flee Doom, and that I have numbers floating above my head.


I'm not afraid of dying. I'm not a PR, just a lowly VT because that's all I ever seem to roll in games. My character is a pretty cute girl named Ridley Silverlake.

[Starbuck]

Vote: PranaDevil

[Starbuck]

I probably pissed off a few people by voting, but I don't mind. I'm very lost in all this FF flavor. I just replaced in because I heart Kise.

[Starbuck]

You could have asked?

I just got caught back up.

[Starbuck]

We didn't actually know Starbuck was the one who would be doomed until after my "hammer" on the countdown.

So how would we have been trying to keep a specific person from being doomed, if we had no clue in regards to whether it was a specific person or not until after the fact?

You know after your WIFOM after the night scene, and the second sentence of this last post, I'm more and more certain that you know EXACTLY what's going on.

[Starbuck]

Hey everybody else, in your honest opinion, did or did not Prana use WIFOM and is he still using it?