Scummers Mafia: Greatest Bash? (Game Over, Scum wins?)

[Papa Zito]

SensFan has requested replacement! First on the list for coming in is... Hasdgfas! PMing him now!

Well there goes my policy lynch vote.

vote: Pom

I'm going to have to get you lynched eventually anyway.

[Papa Zito]

This game needs moar votecount!

This sentence is false.

The First Vote Count (aka the "Completely Unofficial Vote Count")

1. Nhammen (0) -
2. Pomegranate (1) - Papa Zito
3. Monkeyman (0) -
4. SpyreX (3) - Starbuck, Sensfan, Diacria
5. Kunkstar (0) -
6. Papa Zito (0) -
8. ZazieR (2) - ortolan, Nikanor
9. SensFan (1) - MonkeyMan576
10. Zang (0) -
11. Manho (0) -
12. Cuttlefish (alt) (0) -
13. The Mask (alt) (3) - kunkstar7, animorpherv1, manho
14. Ani (0) -
15. Diacria (alt) (1) - SpyreX
16. RisingPhoenix (0) -
17. Ortolan (1) - Zang
18. Starbuck (0) -
20. Niv (1) - Niv

Not voting (5) - Nhammen, Pomegranate, Zazier, The Mask, RisingPhoenix

Votes to lynch: 10

[Papa Zito]

Wait.

I seem to fail at votecount.

Nothing to see here, move along.

[Papa Zito]

Actually I've got 2 bits of info.

Pomegranate (2): Papa Zito

WHO'S THE POWERFUL WIZARD NAO?

Oh wait

Monkeyman (2): Cow, Manho, Cuttlefish
Papa Zito (0): Starbuck

One of these kids obv had their vote transferred to me. Dunno who or how. I was informed I had an additional vote, just for today, after day started.

2nd bit: Any pro-town power roles in this game should not target me. Repeat: Any pro-town power roles in this game should not target me.

inb4 shitstorm


P.S.

Vote: Papa Zito, for his attempts at mass confusion.

This is so lame.

unvote: Pom
vote: The Mask

inb4 OMGUS

[Papa Zito]

Starbuck, why would you give me your vote? I mean it's fun getting to be a POWERFUL WIZARD for a day but I'm not sure I get the point.


Durp. I'm blind.

vote Zazier please

Ok.

Orto is scum, so I can see why he wants me to claim. What's your reason?

Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim can take an eternity.

unvote:
vote: Zazier

[Papa Zito]

Just read you in iso and don't see it. Sorry Zazie.

[Papa Zito]

Unvote

Cool story bro.

What do you think of this ortolan business then?

[Papa Zito]

once we've lynched Zazie, I would definitely look at the following players:

Papa Zito

THIS IS A VERY BAD IDEA

[Papa Zito]

My reason for voting is cuz ortolan said so.

Now, you've said this:

I investigated Orto N0 and the result I got is that he is scum.

... so if we lynch you, and you flip town, then Orto gets turbolynched tomorrow. Easy right? 1-1 trades are good for town etc.

Also UK is obv SK. Though I am curious about 161 Ortolan, plz respond tia.

[Papa Zito]

I find orto more credible since it seems like you pulled the claim out of {REDACTED}

Orto should probably go ahead and fullclaim anyway since the cat's out of the bag at this point.

[Papa Zito]

I find orto more credible since it seems like you pulled the claim out of {REDACTED}

Reasons?

Your claimed guilty only came when it was apparent that you could just lol the wagon away.

And I know you were watching the wagon carefully becuz:

If the majority wants me to claim, I'll do so.

I think a cop with a guilty would have called these shenanigans to a halt much earlier.

Also wondering at earlier posts where you said things like

If Orto is indeed scum, Kunk is his partner.

Why the if if you have a guilty?

and

I'm looking forward so much to using my whip and fluffy black handcuffs on Orto >:]

.... but you said you already used them on Orto? So why future tense?

[Papa Zito]

Your claimed guilty only came when it was apparent that you could just lol the wagon away.

*couldn't just lol the wagon away

[Papa Zito]

When I started the day, I tried to hint at my result, hoping that it would become clear that I have a guilty on Orto.

Why would you weaken your hint by saying if?

Also I'd assume that

Orto was for me almost certainly scum when the day started.

is you being "careful" too?

Again, why weaken your hint by calling him "almost certainly scum"?

Further:

Monkey is scum. The whole thingy of him FoSing Spy, then discrediting Sens and then going the 'I do not want to come across as scummy' is enough for me.
Monkey, please state how the claim from Spy makes him look suspicious.

Still Monkey and Orto are scum, so the feast is getting ready to start, Ohohohoho.

REMINDER: Manho is sooooooo Orto's partner.

Why would a player as "careful" as yourself be more trusting of early Day 1 posts as scum indicators than a guilty found N0? Note that you're talking about Monkey and Manho in absolute terms (they are scum) vs. ortolan ("if" and "almost certainly").

[Papa Zito]

'If' doesn't weaken my hints when I've given multiple ones.

Obviously I completely disagree.

I'm not a computer who reminds what he has to state each time

But you're careful!

[Papa Zito]

I disagree with PZ that ort needs to claim anything more than he has at this point.

Whyzat?

[Papa Zito]

I disagree with PZ that ort needs to claim anything more than he has at this point.

Whyzat?

[Papa Zito]

Quick days are good days.

[Papa Zito]

Wut.

[Papa Zito]

I have two votes ani.

WTF is this mess.

[Papa Zito]

I'd vote ort but I dunno what the current count is.

Third, who was/were the people in charge of lynching the claimed cop instead of the investigation? I want a damn good explanation in following posts.

I was reading the game before flips and I was headdesking everytime ort got away with this despite him being obvscum and zazie obvtown.

I did read day 1 before replacing. But as I said enough of this.

Tajo is scum.

Also FOS: Papa Zito, manho for pushing the Zazie does not look like a Cop angle. At least one of them is probably scum trying to convince the Town to Quicklynch.

FOS: nhammen

for being a gimp.

Or for being on the wagon and then criticizing it. Whichever.

Zazie's failcop routine was terrible, and I have about a page of back-and-forth that at least shows why I was on the wagon.


P.S. I have extreme doubts about ani.

[Papa Zito]

[quote="Cuttlefish"]Zito, do you think that both tajo and ort are scum?
Ort is obvscum and must die.

I believe Tajo is a partner yes.

I'm less sure of Ani but only slightly.

[Papa Zito]

Failquote.

[Papa Zito]

^^ This last conversation brought to you by Everclear.

[Papa Zito]

Okay seriously?

vote: Ortolan

When the mod comes in and shoots down your bullshit you know it's time for a lynch okay.

[Papa Zito]

In response to me scripting stuff: I do not control anyone's abilities in any way

^^lol

I mean, the number of twists and turns and backtracks and then the final "well crap I dunno lulz" would make Holmes commit suicide.

And then I see people start sagely nodding their heads and saying "yup, that all makes sense ort you're a good guy that just had your kills redirected and your mason partner killed off the bat and you say you had a guilty on the cop that got a guilty on you WAHEY TOWNIE PARTY UP IN HERE" and yeah.

[Papa Zito]

Sure Monkey. People are somehow believing this ungodly mess:

full claim: PokerFace, slightly overeager mason dayvig (with Hoopla, any scum want to fake counterclaim? go right ahead). My ability is "night vigilante". I can shoot as long as Vi did not shoot the previous day. Passive abilities are "trigger-happy" (forced to use night vig on night 0) and "gun sharing" which is the fact I am a mason with Vi (Hoopla).

the "slightly racist" element of Hoopla's role was the fact that Vi hates cops, so she would automatically daykill any claimed cop (seriously, I'm not making this up)

I targetted Zazie n0 (not only because Hoops wanted me to but because I always kill Zazie n0 anyway, independent of my alignment). He didn't die and acted scummy when I put pressure on so I assumed he was an un-nkable SK. n1 I tried to kill hasdgfas because I wanted to take that wildcard out of the game, my other suspects (e.g. MonkeyMan) I saw as decently likely to get lynched (and I'm not all that sold on MonkeyMan anyhow).

So apparently my kill doesn't even work, which makes my role rather crap. If ani tracked me I assume he can confirm the claim (if not the mason part should be enough anyway).

oh wait, my kill did work. I read that as the fact SpyreX had died, not the role SpyreX. So yes, I killed hasdgfas. Apparently I killed Hoopla night one as well. Uh, ye. Ok then. Either that was scripted by the mod or I got redirected to Hoops night one, I don't know what the case is.

Oh also either Zazie is insane (which makes the vanilla "cop" flip pretty spurious for a supposedly not totally bastardly game) or there is a mafia framer who happened to target me n0 (which would be amazingly fortuitous for the scum), or else somehow my roles investigates as guilty. Personally I'm opting for the first possibility (Zazie is insane), based on Hoopla's "kill all cops" role. If there's only other cop left in the game, chances are they are sane.

In response to me scripting stuff: I do not control anyone's abilities in any way

then there is a redirector/bus driver role in the game.

I still have no idea why my kill flavour is apparently "sledgehammered" when it clearly says in my role PM that I "shoot someone down". Unless my original theory was right and I don't in fact have a kill.

If I am the one with kill flavour "sledgehammered" (which doesn't make sense since my role PM says I shoot people) then, yes I did kill Hoopla n0, and hasdgfas n1. I targeted Zazie n0 though, so I'm assuming my kill was redirected.

I have a night vig ability, Hoopla had a dayvig ability.

he's obsessed with vigs and vigging n0, and he does/used to have in his sig "I like to vig n0" IIRC

I'm not a dayvig, I wrote that wrong. My exact role is "Slightly Overeager Mason Nightvig". No eye for detail and all that. But obviously I kill at night, because that's what I claimed to do.

Well in my role PM it says I shoot people. Actually maybe I could just ask the mod if the sledgehammered flavour is mine.

ok dramonic instantly replied and he said my kill flavour is "shot". Wtf?

dram says he doesn't randomise my kills

I'm assuming n0 I got redirected from ZazieR to Netopalis, n1 I got roleblocked (possibly by someone who thought I was scum after Zaz's flip)

[Papa Zito]

I am also, if that happened, going to be deadweight. Just an fyi.

Oh yes, if somehow that madness turns out to be true then I'm right there with you. We could swim out past the breakers, watch the game die.

[Papa Zito]

I am also, if that happened, going to be deadweight. Just an fyi.

Oh yes, if somehow that madness turns out to be true then I'm right there with you. We could swim out past the breakers, watch the game die.

[Papa Zito]

Whelp. Zito visited noone, and my mind was Shattered, so I lost my tracking ability.

God damn it. I TOLD you guys.

[Papa Zito]

What the hell is a taximan?

vote: nhammen

[Papa Zito]

Uh.

Anyway the nhammen vote is because he tried to start a counterwagon and distract from the Monkey lynch.

[Papa Zito]

Oh wow L-1 already. That was fast.

[Papa Zito]

But I have a question for you: Why do you attack me for this, but not even mention kunk?

Why should I have mentioned kunk?

[Papa Zito]

Oh lawd it's Reck.

Because kunk voted manho yesterday too. He turned my single vote into two, and stated that he liked a manho wagon. Your case against me is that I was trying to start a counter-wagon. kunk was doing the same thing. Why are you suspicious of me but not kunk, when we have been exhibiting the same behavior? Behavior that you state is scummy enough for a vote.

I don't believe you and kunk didn't behave the same way yesterday at all.

Please draw up the list of parallels for me.


Re: Pom, I always want Pom dead so I'm not really an impartial observer here. I'm not opposed to seeing her swing at all.

[Papa Zito]

Zito, you love me.

<3

HAY kunk nhammen thinks you're suspicious for voting manho yesterday. What's your response?

[Papa Zito]

Can I hammer?

I mean, I get to lynch Pom and Ray AT THE SAME TIME.

[Papa Zito]

I didn't mean right this second jeez guys.

[Papa Zito]

Ugh!

XD I'mma make you work, son.

Both of us were voting for manho rather than Monkey. Both of us claimed to have thought manho was scummier. And yet, you only attack me, but not kunk? Why is there a difference in your views?

Because

1. You started the wagon and
2. You never left it.

and the last few posts really make me sad and think she's gonna be town but I digress).

Yes.

[Papa Zito]

Oh look. Pom didn't deliver. The sun rises in the east you say?

The case on Pom is her lack of content? I have a strong town read on her based on what she asked me not long ago. If she's a hated townie, I'm keeping my vote on manho come tomorrow.

I

want

to get into the kunkstar concern, but.. I can't put my finger on it. There's nothing about him that sticks out.

Zang was another curious case. I mentioned this nagging feeling about him I had, but, honestly, manho looks better for a scum candidate.

This is a bad, bad post.


You had opportunity to leave, nhammen, before kunk jumped ship but chose to stay on. I realize you said you were going to hammer but actions > words. But it doesn't look like you're getting lynched so.

[Papa Zito]

^^^ Lots of Pom WIFOM. PomFOM.

[Papa Zito]

Agreed, but I am very wary of the people who are saying that she's town and she still should swing.

Your avatars are getting better and better.

I'm going with the "OMG scum would never claim that she must be town!" scum theory.

I still want to hammer. No Spy I don't get fabulous prizes from hammering.

[Papa Zito]

BLAM

unvote: nhammen
vote: Pom

[Papa Zito]

hmm

I'm wondering if this is the part of the show where we lynch the miller.

Not that I'd cry over a Zang lynch but well.

Actually this may actually be massclaim territory.

[Papa Zito]

I'd kinda rather get the cards on the table and put a Plan(tm) in place with enough wiggle room to let it work.

Reck, what struck you about Zang's iso exactly?

[Papa Zito]

So here's what I think we need to do.

1. massclaim
2. parse
3. lynch Spy

It looks like we're rocketing towards Lylo and I don't want a miller muddying things. (Sorry) Also the mindless Zang push kinda sucks. I'd rather lynch Reck.

And btw, I love you more than Reck does.

Aww. <3

Though that's probably not that hard really.

[Papa Zito]

I haven't caught up yet Starbuck.

vote: Reck

[Papa Zito]

How does Zang = Reck exactly Nik?

And with Reck deliberately avoiding anwering questions (because he's

lazy

lol) I don't see how you can view him as neutral either.

Am I the only townie left? Is this some cosmic joke?

[Papa Zito]

I'm interested in manho's newsletter because it doesn't jive with my read.

Such as my reads have been.

Of course I don't trust manho much for this comment:

i start finding ortolan not scum.

but i don't know, i'm still with the lynch.

but yaknow whatever.

Spy needs to get back in here if he's just irritated cuz I want him dead. The lack of energy ITT is part of my beef.


Thanks Nik that makes sense.


I shouldn't be trying to lead anything because I have sucked like an unholy industrial vacuum this game. But I get the feeling town morale is going to hand the game to the scum.

[Papa Zito]

Not sure why you're waiting to give your 2 cents, SpyreX.

zang need to be replaced.

So manho+zang+Reck are three of the remaining bad boys.


zzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Papa Zito]

woooow

The Mask (1): kunkstar

ZazieR

(8):

Ortolan

, Papa Zito, Nhammen,

Monkeyman

, SpyreX, Ani, Manho, Starbuck, The Mask, Zang

Ortolan

(2):

ZazieR

, Niv

Monkeyman

(3):

Cow

, Cuttlefish,

Diacria

Not Voting (3):

Pomegranate

,

RisingPheonix

Scum are protecting the Zazie wagon.

Ortolan

(9):

PopularTajo

, Kunkstar, Manho, Nhammen, Ani, Papa Zito,

Pomegranate

, SpyreX,

Monkeyman

Monkeyman

(1):

Ortolan

PopularTajo

(1): Cuttlefish
Nhammen (1):

Diacria

Not Voting (4): Niv, The Mask, Zang, Starbuck

Nik somehow forgot his Monkey hate D2 and went after Tajo.

[Papa Zito]

I'm saying both. Nik was bussing and a couple of his friends were on the Zazie wagon.

[Papa Zito]

Arrite.

y halo thar, I'm Tarhalindur. My super mod screw powers means that targeting me breaks your puny human brains.

I also have a one-shot modkill in my back pocket that I haven't used yet but plan on using tonight. (gasp)

Nik, go.

[Papa Zito]

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Papa Zito]

We're lynching Reck after we're done with post-massclaim discussion.

Just so ya'll know.

[Papa Zito]

You should probably go ahead and change your sig now. Since you're so busy and all.

[Papa Zito]

I want Reck to swing.

Why the hell is this taking so long.

[Papa Zito]

Ani's in this game?

We're massclaiming first.

[Papa Zito]

W.

T.

F.

[Papa Zito]

Still here. Still snoozing. Who's left then?

[Papa Zito]

...

It's a massclaim, Benmage. You're supposed to add everything.

[Papa Zito]

Gee. So many VTs.

[Papa Zito]

Hello kids.

Let's move this along plz.

[Papa Zito]

Don't worry Reck, we're just going to lynch you in a minute.

I'm heartbroken Dram didn't include me in this. Just heartbroken.

[Papa Zito]

Would someone less lazy than myself compile the claims plz?

[Papa Zito]

^^^ Does that mean that we've got everyone then?

[Papa Zito]

Arrite, here's where we stand:

Zang (2): Cuttlefish, Reck
Cuttle (2): Manho, Starbuck
Reck (2): Zito, Kunk, Ani
Manho (1): Nhammen

Not Voting (3): SpyreX,Benmage, Mask

Our scumz are apparently really unimaginative so it looks like we start lynching VTs?

[Papa Zito]

Mind shattered is when people don't listen to PZ and target him anyway and lose their kewl powerz.

[Papa Zito]

And that should say Reck (3) but counting is hard.

[Papa Zito]

Sigh.

So out of all those you think Kunk's is the worst why?

[Papa Zito]

BTW where did Zito claim destroyer of worlds originally?

Bottom of page 4.

Mask/kunk/Reck/manho?

Scum all-stars?

[Papa Zito]

Oh and I know you hit me up Night 0 Starbuck. That actually turned out to be a good thing since you got control of your own vote again. I'm just irritated at the plebs who decided to target me after I screamed at them not to.

I forgot about the Mask thing. Yeah that pinged me at the time.

We may need a Mask prod here.

[Papa Zito]

nahmmen, Zito, spyrex, starbuck, kunk, manho, reck and ben confirmed their return.
symbolic prods going out tomorrow

Hay fluffy did this happen?

@SpyreX apparently we haven't finished yet blah.

Unvote

for now pending prods and stuff.

[Papa Zito]

lulz

Now what Spy?

Also

mod: Prods happened y/n?

[Papa Zito]

Zang (3): Cuttlefish

Triplevoter FTW?

[Papa Zito]

I'm a girl on the internet, which is said to be shocking, yeah?

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Also:

I didn't vote [ortolan] because I had already said I believed he was town.

Why roleblock someone you think is town?

VOTE: The Mask

[Papa Zito]

@Zito: You put my actions out of order. I blocked orto the night Zazie got lynched, and then I trusted orto as town the day after when kill flavor went missing due to my RB. I've been through this already.

Er, not really.

D1: Zazie lynched
N1: Ort blocked
D2: Didn't vote Ort D1 cuz I thought he was town.

What's out of order here?

[Papa Zito]

Yay.

[Papa Zito]

I was rooting for you, Starbuck.