Supernatural mafia - Mafia team wins!!!!!

[Snow_Bunny]

I'm here. I wasn't aware the game was this long already. Will catch up soon. Anything worthy out there so I can say something meanwhile?

[Snow_Bunny]

So far page 4 and I'm yet to find something good (the thing on the hydras is rather meh. If they want to stay anonymous, then let them be.)

Still catching up.

[Snow_Bunny]

Hunt: KageLord

Post 120 is just too much to ignore.

[Snow_Bunny]

Kage's following post fail to convince me otherwise of changing my vote. In fact, make me think he's scummier.

Unvote
Vote: Snow_Bunny

*facepalm*

Uh?

[Snow_Bunny]

Am I wiggin out or does Snow-Bunny not have a single post?

I'm sorry, I wasn't aware the game had started, and I was a bit busy as well moving to a new house. Sorry for that.

[Snow_Bunny]

Page 7 and I'm not liking MS. Feels like a lot of fluff and nothing good.

But meh, I already had to read a lot of pages from other games, so I call it a day and keep reading later on.

[Snow_Bunny]

What happened with the love to the Kage wagon? Sometimes obv scum is obv scum (though, it would be best if I fully read the game... ¬_¬. Meh, I'm too tired to read anything now, so that will have to wait.)

Mod: VLA for the weekend

[Snow_Bunny]

Voting for lurkers is a nulltell for me, in fact, I often do it, so I understand MS' point. However, I rather go with a Kage wagon. If we take into account his request for replacement, which is usually a scum reaction when overwhelmed with pressure, we will have a nice scum lynch on D1.

Still VLA.

[Snow_Bunny]

Kage's following post fail to convince me otherwise of changing my vote. In fact, make me think he's scummier.

Unvote
Vote: Snow_Bunny

*facepalm*

Uh?

Goods news, MS posted that, not Kage. What do you think of it now?

I must say I quite don't understand this post. If you mean the vote, I know it was MS, not Kage. Otherwise, I don't know what you're talking about.

What happened with the love to the Kage wagon? Sometimes obv scum is obv scum (though, it would be best if I fully read the game... ¬_¬. Meh, I'm too tired to read anything now, so that will have to wait.)

Yeah, it would be best if you read the whole game. That way you could give us your thoughts on someone other than Kage.

Well, I already gave my thoughts (albeit reduced) on another player: MS. I am reading him as scummy. Here, have some more thoughts. Tubby is playing town as I remember him playing town, so I'll assume town for now. I don't get the case on Reaper, and I'm finding the Nero Cain's case on Benmage not that strong (just a lot of quotes, a huge wall of text, but nothing really good.) And thus, I'm happy with Kage's lynch for now (although I wouldn't mind a wagon on MS)

[Snow_Bunny]

rather go with a Kage wagon. If we take into account his request for replacement, which is

usually a scum reaction when overwhelmed with pressure

, we will have a nice scum lynch on D1.

Wellllll. I have to say 4 votes is hardly "overwhelming pressure" when there's 13 to lynch.

But yeah it seems odd that he'd replace out of this one when he just joined a mish-mash game today or yesterday that I am in...

Wellllll, votes aren't the only source of pressure (and yes, I may have exaggerated back there, but the point remains).

[Snow_Bunny]

Mod: I'm kind of homeless right now, so my Internet connection is quite limited. Thus, VLA. I'll try to post every time I can.

[Snow_Bunny]

Kage's following post fail to convince me otherwise of changing my vote. In fact, make me think he's scummier.

Unvote
Vote: Snow_Bunny

*facepalm*

Uh?

Goods news, MS posted that, not Kage. What do you think of it now?

I must say I quite don't understand this post. If you mean the vote, I know it was MS, not Kage. Otherwise, I don't know what you're talking about.

You said "Kage's following post". Kage didn't post that, MS did (as you seem to now know). Or am I misunderstanding something here?

I was referring to KAge's subsequent posts, not the one right next to that one.

Well, I already gave my thoughts (albeit reduced) on another player: MS. I am reading him as scummy. Here, have some more thoughts. Tubby is playing town as I remember him playing town, so I'll assume town for now. I don't get the case on Reaper, and I'm finding the Nero Cain's case on Benmage not that strong (just a lot of quotes, a huge wall of text, but nothing really good.) And thus, I'm happy with Kage's lynch for now (although I wouldn't mind a wagon on MS)

Ok, so did you finish catching up then?

You could say so. Still as I don't have a fixed connection now, it wouldn't be odd for me to fall back again.

Ah, a quick note before I forget. As Starbuck is playing this game as well, please don't refer to me as SB, as it tends to confuse. Use S_B, Snowy, Bunny, etc.

[Snow_Bunny]

Hunt: Starbuck

For being an idiot. This is obviously her grasping at an opportunity to kill a

town member

with little to no reasoning.

Nice slip.

Hunt: hydrak

However, if this is true, then Sawyer's coaching to Kage seems less scummy.

Can someone explain the case of Ani for me? Just lack of activity? (That's the same case on Tripod, isn't it? Slipped scum > lurker)

[Snow_Bunny]

Ah, we need flips!!!

I'm guessing scum + vig + sk. But that's just a guess.

[Snow_Bunny]

I find it quite funny that Day 2 opens and we see an rush of Day 1 lurkers popping up to comment on game design and not discuss their almost total absence Day 1.

Until we see some flips this discussion seems rather pointless.

Hunt: TheLonging.

Nice of you to join us. You are tickling my scumdar already.

So, you rather start another rvs? Because with things as they are, we are just like D1 (well, I assume most of us, at least).

well we could always not hunt today and see if that forces the flips from yesterday. cause otherwise we are hunting blind and who knows what we will end up killing.

From where do you get that this will happen if we not hunt?

see i see what you are doing here although i apreciate it its misdirected. I'll give you a few hours and let the maths catch up to you. I we were to no lynch or not hunt today now is the only time we as a town would still be able to recover. However with the lack of flips there could be all dead townies out there or all dead power roles, or we could be really lucky and

scum had crossedkilled. however i doubt we are that lucky.

but yah if your that blood thirsty hunt away captian crusader.

Bolded for emphasis –

Scum can cross-kill? Sounds like a case of ‘Inadvertant slip of information that only scum have at this point’. If that’s the case thanks for letting us know early that we are in a multi-scum team environment.

Unhunt – TheLonging
Hunt – Tubby

Uh, nice slip finding.

About Chrono millerness and whatnot, I rather leave that for latter. I rather lynch slipped scum than policy scummy. I'm still hot happy with KageLord being still alive, but well, it's a shame I only have one vote. D:

Hunt: tubby

Yeah, it's only normal for tubby to play like this, but that doesn't mean we should ignore everything for his meta. More often than not, tubby can survive using this lame excuse. Hope this time the slipped scum won't get too far.

first of all this wagon smells of fear and cluelessness. so yah i think i will sit back have my PBR and work on my awesome mullet.

Instead of concentrating solely on the wagon, yet ignoring all pressure to contribute, how about you actually help us win the game instead of being a useless moron?

What a novel idea.

You're asking too much.

@Magna: I am not quite getting the Reaper's love. Is it something I am missing, or it is just his reaction under pressure? EDIT: Oh, the tracking result. We aren't sure of what happened last night. For now I'll keep note of that.

You have yet to address your double standard. You completely skimmed over it the first time, and just did it again.

Kettle, there's a phone call for you. It's the pot.

You still haven't addressed 593. Hope it is going away?

It was a test Reaper ... didn't you divine that from the lack of cohesive case that usually accompanies votes from me that aren't based on information roles?

As to why you are scum it's simple and I'll just put it out there for everyone to see

You were Tracked last night to Molestargazer who quite convienantly is Waiting in the Wings.

I'd rather not pussy-foot around with you. You may begin to flail about now.

More Reaper votes people!!!!

BOOYAA! Time to die scum. Calling it since D1.

Unhunt
Hunt: ReaperCharlie

Looking at those 6 votes on Tubby is going to make this game retarded easy.

I don't like this post at all. Why should you believe Magna's info right away? Not only that, why does this make you think he's the cause of the dead? What makes you think Mole is town? Too much buddying here and info assumption for my own taste.

HFOS: LMP

It's funny how you all say those things as if you know exactly what people flipped...

Have something you all need to tell the rest of the Town? *raises eyebrow*

^This exactly.

Reaper's claim, at least from a flavour point of view, it's believable, at least for me. I'm more intrigued in the pressure on him, specially if it's based on info on a quite dark night.

[Snow_Bunny]

Just a quick note related to what I'm reading: role doesn't imply faction. Claiming Dean, Sam, Bobby or another good main character doesn't imply the player is town.

[Snow_Bunny]

So far what I've read doesn't convince me of changing my vote. Tubby still looks like the best lynch (page 34).

[Snow_Bunny]

Just a quick note related to what I'm reading: role doesn't imply faction. Claiming Dean, Sam, Bobby or another good main character doesn't imply the player is town.

Rather than just active lurking how about you actually take some stands on player's alignments.

I've taken my stands. How about you actually go back and read what I posted before putting yourself as a fool?

[Snow_Bunny]

Vote: TheLonging

[Snow_Bunny]

Hmm... If you ever decide to lynch a lurker for any reason whatsoever, please lynch me. At least there's some chance my lynch will help town. I'm not advocating my lynch, just saying that it may not be that bad for town (though, I'm not sure yet.)

[Snow_Bunny]

Mod: VLA until next Tuesday.

[Snow_Bunny]

Well, I'm back but I have not finish reading yet. Anything worthy of comment?

[Snow_Bunny]

Ok, let's try something here. I'm adding in names that weren't listed is this vote count, but changed votes before the Kage lynch/shot/modkill/whateverthehellhappened. Also changing replaced players to current players.

KageLord

(9)

molestargazer

, MagnaofIllusion, jmj3000, Snow_Bunny, Chronopie,

ReaperCharlie

, SpyreX, LynchMePls, Benmage, Lowell,

Midnight's Sorrow

, tubby216

Midnight's Sorrow

(1) TheLonging
ReaperCharlie (3)

KageLord

Hydrak (1) Kmd4390
Magna (2) Smash Bras, Sawyer
Ythan (1)

animorpherv1

Benmage (1) Nero Cain
Kmd4390 (1) GenericHydra
TheLonging (2) Ythan

Animorph

(1) GroupThink
Not hunting:
Hydrak

Starbuck

So many unflipped players on this wagon on town. Someone in [MagnaofIllusion, jmj3000, Snow_Bunny, Chronopie, SpyreX, LynchMePls, Benmage, Lowell, Tubby] is scum. Probably multiple players.

Let's see. Magna's vote is pretty terrible. jmj's looks like town thinking. SnowBunny's is kind of bad. Chro's is bad. No problem with willows' vote (Spy's slot). LynchMePls's is bad. Benmage is probably the worst (didn't seem to suspect Kage until the vote and gave no reason). Lowell could go either way. Tubby's could go either way.

So still multiple scum in [Magna, SnowBunny, Chro, LynchMePls, Benmage, Lowell, Tubby]. I see Magna and Benmage are already dead, so we should get some answers here.

NEXT:

Midnight's Sorrow

(2) TheLonging, Sawyer
Hydrak (12) Kmd4390, Lowell, Chronopie, LynchMePls, GenericHydra, Snow_Bunny,

animorpherv1

, jmj3000, Benmage,

Starbuck

,tubby216, MagnaofIllusion
Magna (2) Smash Bras,

Midnight's Sorrow

TheLonging (1) Ythan

animorpherv1

(2) SpyreX, Nero Cain
SpyreX (1) GroupThink
Not hunting:
Hydrak

molestargazer

ReaperCharlie

Not having hydrak's flip hurts. I do notice my ScumSet TM all included in the lynching wagon though, so I'll assume hydrak was town.

Let's review it as if hydrak were a town. A hydrak scum flip would nullify all of the following. Lowell's vote makes no sense. Same for Chro's. LynchMePls's looks a lot like the Kage vote he made. Don't like it. GenericHydra's vote is so town it hurts. SnowBunny's is bad. jmj's is fine. Benmage, pretty horrible again. Tubby could go either way. Magna, either way.

At least one scum in [Lowell, Chro, LynchMePls, SnowBunny, Benmage, Tubby, Magna]
Wait, what was my last set? [Magna, SnowBunny, Chro, LynchMePls, Benmage, Lowell, Tubby].
Wow, exactly the same.

NEXT:
Tubby (4)

ReaperCharlie

, Sawyer, Chronopie, Snow_Bunny
ReaperCharlie (2) Benmage, MagnaofIllusion

Midnight's Sorrow

(1) Super Smash Bros

animorpherv1

(9) Spreyx, tubby216, GenericHydra, Nero Cain, LynchMePls, TheLonging, Lowell, GroupThink,

Midnight's Sorrow

Benmage (1) Ythan
Not hunting:
Kmd4390

animorpherv1

Animorph's wagon gives us 8 players who have yet to flip. The only thing that bothers me about Spy's vote is the timing of it. Looks like someone who is protecting Reap and Tubby by going in a new direction. This looks bad on Tubby too because if Spy is scum just protecting Reap, why not vote Tubby? Spy is scum. Probably Tubby too. Speaking of Tubby, don't like his vote. GenericHydra's vote is town. Nero's is hard to tell. LynchMePls actually looks fine. TheLonging's post where he votes Animorph is terrible. I don't like Lowell's. GroupThink's can go either way.

Oh, and another interesting place to look. The Tubby wagon. Forget what I said above about Tubby. Reap along with two players in my scumsets on Days 1 and 2 make up 3/4 of this wagon. Tubby is town for sure. Also, townpoints for Benmage and Magna because Reap's wagon got high enough that votes on him were likely votes to lynch.

Day 3-[Spy, Nero, TheLonging, Lowell, Groupthink]
Day 1-[Lowell, Chro, LynchMePls, SnowBunny, Benmage, Tubby, Magna]
Day 2-[Lowell, Chro, LynchMePls, SnowBunny, Benmage, Tubby, Magna]

Overall set-[Spy, Nero, TheLonging, Lowell, Groupthink, Chro, Snowbunny]
^This is where I'd be looking right now.

ONE MORE:
tubby (2)

ReaperCharlie

, TheLonging
TheLonging (1) Snow_Bunny
ReaperCharlie (8) Spyrex, Nero Cain, SSBF, Lowell, GenericHydra, tubby216,

Starbuck

, Kmd4390
Not hunting:
GroupThink
Chronopie
Ythan
LynchMePls
Sawyer

The only notable thing here is really those voting someone other than Reap [TheLonging, SnowBunny]. If I remember right, there was role related evidence against Reap.

So, yeah, still looking at this set:
-[Spy, Nero, TheLonging, Lowell, Groupthink, Chro, Snowbunny]

I'd like to lynch Snow, Spy, Chro, or Nero the most. Lowell's playstyle tends to make him look bad in VCA TM regardless of his alignment and GroupThink only appeared in one set as a "could go either way. Looking back at Spy with the Tubby wagon in mind, it's not as bad as I originally thought, but he still belongs in the ScumSet TM.

Hunt Snow_Bunny

Interesting analysis, 'cept for two little things: First, you assume Hydrak is town. What if he's scum? Second, I had my reasons to vote for TheLonging (although I must say now that I believe those reasons were wrong, but still strong enough in that time to warrant the vote), and why I didn't join Reap's wagon.

Using your own post, I can see that tubby has joined conveniently late in all lynch wagons (except ani's). I also find funny how you mysteriously take tubby out of question in the last part of your analysis. Reeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaally interesting.

For now, I rather go for a tubby lynch. If he flips scum, like I have expected since time ago, I will look deeper into your posts, Kmd.

Hunt: Tubby

[Snow_Bunny]

My reason of me proposing myself as a lynch will be disclosed later. The attacks on me are based on lurking and some relations to the lynches that, to be honest, can as well be applied to almost anyone else.

So, nothing new to comment yet.

[Snow_Bunny]

Ok, time to claim.

I am Gordon Walker, cop. During N1 I investigated MagnaofIllusion, but got redirected to Starbuck, who I found guilty. N2 I investigated TheLonging, and I got guilty again. N3, suspicious of my sanity, I investigated myself, and got guilty. N4 I was VLA and I didn't send in an action.

The reason I suggested my lynch is that if sanity is confirmed upon flip, should I be insane my results would help. It's a shame N4 ended before I returned from VLA.

[Snow_Bunny]

I think so. Though I'm not sure (well, it's the most logical way, imo, without edging with bastardness, though I may be wrong.)

[Snow_Bunny]

^ LMP

just to humour us: You say sanity wasn't confirmed in your role PM? Or sanity wasn't mentioned at all? Really?

My sanity isn't confirmed in my role PM, in fact, it is advised to take care of the result.

@S_B: What's the flavour on your investigation?

Does it show Town? Demon? Human? etc.

Would it show "Cult" or just "not town" or w/e?

Guilty. Period.

And, btw, my sanity IS shown upon death. Just confirmed now.

[Snow_Bunny]

Confirmed with my past PMs. Not now with the mod.

[Snow_Bunny]

Bah. Stupid paranoid cop role...

Interesting game, though I didn't follow it to the end. What happened?