Reck's Mad Mad Mad Mad Mind - MINDFUCK!

[Ythan]

Reck you dumbass.

Morning! Reck has told me in the past that he lets Dram be whatever role he wants.

vote dramonic

vote dramonic

[Ythan]

I don't know what you're talking about because I haven't read this thread yet. I just got here from the other one.

[Ythan]

/confirm

and I'm a townie jester recruiter. I LOVE MY ROLE!

Is that a townie who recruits jester (presumably to town) or a townie who is also a jester/somekindofrecruiter?

[Ythan]

Also, considering I've never played under Reck before today, that's rich <<

This is what he told me, in person and outside of any discussion regarding this game, and I believe he did it here.

[Ythan]

I would also consider Midnight's Sorrow because he is awful.

[Ythan]

No I can add a win condition to three people every night that only I know about. Jester is the default, but I can specify it with an item I received called a "Schrodinger's Death Note". If all three people find out about their new win conditions, they can choose to either make me unlynchable for the remainder of the game or cut off their ears, which will trigger my win condition of collecting all the ears of all the players. The ears are related to a fake Serial Killer Lover mechanic which the mod has told me is in the game, which only one other person has (you've probably guessed that this person's role name is "Wincon Sabotageur". He/she can change the townie gov/doc into a SK lover, which of course will prevent that person from winning, but only if I can sew together an ear shamrock and drop it amongst the town square, and the sabotageur is the 4th person to attempt to pick it up.

What do you mean "specify it"?

Did you receive the item at the start of the game (is it an inherent part of your role) or did you receive it as if from some other mechanic?

Do you give a new wincon to three people

per night

?

How do three people "decide" one way or the other?

How would we guess the other person's role name?

Which role called governor is the gov/doc?

SK lover can't win because he can't both keep his lover alive and kill everyone?

Attempt to pick it up?

[Ythan]

Let's not lynch Reck, he has a history of penalizing town for lynching him as mod.

[Ythan]

Ok my real role is townie shamrock collector. I can take and give luck to and from the town.

Oh, ignore that other post then. What do you mean take and give luck? If you're going to claim you can at least make it clear instead of leaving us not understanding.

[Ythan]

I can only use it when someone is at L-1. It will make the person being lynched unlynchable if he/she is town (or town according to the mod. it is a bastard game after all)

Oh, ignore that other post too.

[Ythan]

Guys, if you keep voting Reck I'm going to have to hammer one of you =_=

We don't care; if we are allowed to vote the mod, then by golly, we're doing it. That tends to get us something in bastard mod games.

Vote: xRECKONERx
Major HoS: dramonic

Do you have any experience with Bastard Reck?

[Ythan]

I hate you so much right now and I hope you're lynched for killing a town powerrole for no reason

I'm feeling this, and wondering why Dram seems to nonchalant about what was quite possibly a mislynch on a powerful town PR.

[Ythan]

Do you have any experience with Bastard Reck?

No.

Then take our word for it or read one. We're not lynching Reck.

[Ythan]

well, if I'm going to die might as well spam the thread.

A man after my own heart.

There is a role-related reason zwetschenwasser is doing what he's doing.

And you're telling us?

[Ythan]

I'm radiohead, actually.

Name claim plausible for the game's flavor. Reck is a big fan.

[Ythan]

So we are not lynching dram today.

So trusting you are.

[Ythan]

hasdgfas....don't get your bonnet in a twist .o.

I was going to say "don't make useless/vague one offs" but then I saw that it was you.

[Ythan]

WTF IS THIS 8 PAGES ARE YOU FRIGGIN JOKIN ME
NANANANANA I AM NOT READING THROUGFH ALL OF THAT.
OMG SOCIOPATH HI

HERE'S A HEADS UP WHILE I DON'T READ THE MOTHER 8 f* PAGES. Due to the sheer amount of players, being the first large game I'm playing, expect me to be a little lost << Thank you .

I'd like to tell everyone my role is a bitch.

It's eight fucking pages. Even now it's only twelve. I'm reading it and you can too.

[Ythan]

Zwet has to be something like "Reck's Bipolarness" or "Reck's Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder" I think he is forced to post X amount of times or be killed, or something.

That's a hell of a specific assumption.

[Ythan]

vote animorph

rolefishing, hmm?

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

[Ythan]

2) just sounds ridiculous.

Please put more effort into this argument.

[Ythan]

My ability names are "Hail to the Chief" and "The Bends". I have power because reck thinks that I'm the best thing to ever happen to music. And now I get to worry that reck added a death note character in this game who now has the power to kill me at will. Thanks dram.

I also know that Reck loves Death Note.

[Ythan]

on a scale of 1 to 10, unlynchability is about 18.

Big difference between being unlynchable and granting it.

[Ythan]

my god you're reminding me of Mal from inception trying to shove her version of reality down everyone else's throat. I can't target myself with these powers anyway.

note (post #245)

[Ythan]

Seems to me he's third party or something, since he's so crazy.

Explain.

[Ythan]

Ex is obviously prob town.

[Ythan]

Note: Exi is also very likely scum, btw
Inside info

I didn't even see this! Why? The fact that it's inside info doesn't excuse you from explaining.

[Ythan]

I got that out of context. It was a sentence about "easily confirmed powerroles Day 1". A little on the failed attempt at humor part. By the way, what if Zwet is a Jester? He surely acts like one, and it only crosse my mind now that that spam is more the type of "annoying-lynch me plz" than scum. <<
WIFOM is meaningless, though. I really don't care if he wins or not as long as he's silent.

Reck jesters don't end the game, especially in a game this big. So a jester lynch would be a waste but not a disaster.

[Ythan]

And done.

[Ythan]

What makes you think it's fake?

[Ythan]

Also, bulletproof suicidal resurrecting BEACH?

You are constantly attacking pretended inconsistencies between flavor and effect without even asking for any clarification. This is a bastard game where there is a lot of stretch between those two factors and you attack without even looking for clarification.

[Ythan]

wha? 14 pages already. Damn spammers. Will be back later to actually read, sheesh.

The second and third sentences don't match up. Read the pages before you call it spam at least.

[Ythan]

Were you there when I cum-bombed all over the players in that one Marathon game? Either way, it's quite irrelevant.

After the reactions to that ending he has said he would never do it again. Also how is it irrelevant, or are you just trying to dismiss it?

[Ythan]

@Ythan: I'm basing myself on my own rolename+abilities that DO somewhat fit together.

That doesn't jive with you not even attempting to hear an explanation.

@Exi: Well, Carcassonne is a board game, it can't really be harmful (unless you choke on the pieces or something). That fits the innocent child part. Hell if I know why cop. And the "what power" question is pretty lame, considering you know which one I'm talking about, scum.

A boardgame fits with IC because it isn't dangerous?

Dram is definitely scum.

[Ythan]

I would love to, but

Ythill

encouraged me not to continue the pursuit. I'm a bit upset about that.

Har har.

[Ythan]

OK, VasudeVa, I understand that this is bastard mod, but I still don't like you pushing mod-WIFOM against dramonic.

Reck has told me that he would let Dram be any faction he wanted, and he wasn't lying.

[Ythan]

So xRECKONERx would rather stick people he likes into roles they like and reduce this to a meta game? OK...

YES, EXACTLY.

[Ythan]

Dram is attempting to use sarcasm to deflect your evidence.

[Ythan]

A boardgame fits with IC because it isn't dangerous?

Dram is definitely scum.

it's completely theorical, why would I know the logic behind Reck's thinking?

Ignoring the fact that you probably know a lot about the setup of this game, it's a big stretch of a theory that you seem much too content with.

[Ythan]

OK, VasudeVa, I understand that this is bastard mod, but I still don't like you pushing mod-WIFOM against dramonic.

Reck has told me that he would let Dram be any faction he wanted, and he wasn't lying.

Except I wouldnt use it even if that were true, since that would cause the exact same stupid WIFOM we are in right now.

Except it wouldn't have been here at all if he hadn't told me and I hadn't shared.

[Ythan]

It's not cheating for a player to talk to the mod about the game. Reck has actually explicitly discussed this with me. It's cheating for two players to discuss it.

And no that's hardly a logical flaw. It doesn't fit with what we're discussing at all. And now are you flailing with the idiocy comment?

[Ythan]

It's a bastard game. And your argument that you couldn't pick your role because you could get setup knowledge doesn't jive with ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS DISCUSSION. When he had me pick my faction he had me select three. Are we supposed to think he'd let me choose mine but not you yours?

[Ythan]

That is, I picked three and he gave me one of them.

Cow, no it's not a pick game but that's not the argument.

[Ythan]

Oh no he denied it. NOW WHAT. And no I'm also saying you're lynched because of all the things you've posted ALREADY in this game that I've commented on. And your argument is still dumb and doesn't take what I've been posting into account in any way.

[Ythan]

I picked three factions. He gave me one. Therefore I didn't have the opportunity to learn that a particular role was not in the game. I find it very hard to believe that he'd give me the faction I wanted and not you, especially after explicitly telling me.

[Ythan]

What would be left of your posting of late if you took out all of the pointless sarcasm you're attempting to use for deflection? Less than I put in a single post, that's what.

Cow, Reck has told me today that he actually just let Dram choose a role but in my case it was factions so I'm assuming he means he let Dram pick a third party role that serves as both role and faction.

Dram, oh no you deny it what will I do.

[Ythan]

*facepalm*

How is what you are doing here not a mod-meta lynch.
Look at the freaking post.

I think you have a hard time understand what sarcasm is...

And I think that no part of what you are posting is not incredible flailing. Not incredible as in effective, incredible as in of epic proportions.

What would be left of your posting of late if you took out all of the pointless sarcasm you're attempting to use for deflection? Less than I put in a single post, that's what.

Cow, Reck has told me today that he actually just let Dram choose a role but in my case it was factions so I'm assuming he means he let Dram pick a third party role that serves as both role and faction.

Dram, oh no you deny it what will I do.

because you're going to trust the mod in a bastard game? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA *wheeze* HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Considering that I got the role I asked for and the discussion of Dram's privilege came from long before this game, make a better effort to dismiss evidence plz.

[Ythan]

That's all well and good but I'm not going to drop the attack, especially if he doesn't start to put up some kind of legitimate defense.

[Ythan]

Considering that I can respond to posts from more than one player I'm not wasting any time at all.

[Ythan]

That's the spirit.

[Ythan]

It has a decent basis but thanks for keeping it up.

[Ythan]

Gay.

And Dram, I'm not assuming. Either you're doing a poor job of reading or you're not addressing the supporting evidence because

you're lying

.

[Ythan]

A vig claim. Definitely a SK.

[Ythan]

3-shot.
Alas, I wasted one since somebody somewhere actually thought you're worth something

Seriously, what's with the attitude?

[Ythan]

GUYS.
Stop it.
We are not lynching dram or killing him day 1. Reck wouldn't let that happen.
I can't link the game cause it's ongoing and on another site.

It's a stretch to assume that Dram will be completely invincible.

[Ythan]

Second hidden vig/sk whatever? I doubt you'd be the least bit surprised at the presence of a sk if you were a vig. Your doubt is extremely telling.

[Ythan]

Not what I'm talking about. Your tone in regards to another is what gives you away.

[Ythan]

@EBWOP: well, I know WHERE, but you're misrepping me.
I'm refering to the shot that killed Yoshi belonging to not me.

The fact that you made vague comments and backpedaled from them later does not mean I'm misrepping you. Nice try.

[Ythan]

Also I did't get any choice or anything when it came to my role.

But my role is something I would have liked regardless.

But Reck claims ignorance and non-tampering when it came to my role.

It's because he fucks Dram and hangs out with me. I'm assuming it's just the two of us.

[Ythan]

What keeps dramonic (in your mind) from being a Mafia assassin?

I didn't think of it. What's important is that it's a scum role, whatever it is.

[Ythan]

*wades through

spam

and one-liners*

You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

[Ythan]

I think you might want to get up to date, scum.

For fuck's sake put effort into this game instead of just not making cases and tacking ", scum" onto the end.

[Ythan]

But the fact you're faking ignorance is a confession in itself

ZING!

Dram and Ex are at least not in the same faction. Ex might be scum but Dram still definitely is.

[Ythan]

Gut scum read on Ythan for assuming it is a town PR

At page 13. i have a dorm hall meeting right now. will get more later.

That's not gut, it has an actual basis that you posted. But I was talking about his nonchalance. He completely disregarded it.

[Ythan]

I thought I had lost my touch. Welcome to the haystack.

[Ythan]

Dram, I know English isn't your first language but tunneling I think is pretty straightforward. That's not what it is.

[Ythan]

Considering that the only response you have is that it's ridiculous I think I'll keep doing as I damn well please, regardless of whether you're actually going to be the lynch today, because I'm pretty sure you're scum and you haven't approached doing a single thing in this game to dissuade me.

[Ythan]

If you have any questions that aren't dumb then repost them in a post that isn't in some other way dumb, because that's probably why I missed it. Also, again, hypocrisy might not be the best word for you to use if you're not going to get the meaning right. I did x and you said don't do y doesn't really fit in that definition, not without some kind of effort (gasp) to link the two. If you have some trouble keeping up with any of the things I've said against you then the proper thing to do in a forum for forum games would be to reread and get up to speed. For your convenience, and again I recommend this to you and anyone else with similar problems, I keep my posts with important points free of irrelevant and distracting crap.

[Ythan]

Except that never happened you foolish fool. First, I have made a case. I repeat, make an effort to actually read. They brought isos back to help you. Two, I haven't said shit about your case on Exi. In fact I pretty explicitly said that I still think you're scum regardless. So, back to reading better. And three:

"Have you missed the case I made on Exi?
If not, do you have any answers to it?
Or are you just gonna keep tunneling?"

Obviously not considering I'm aware of it, no I think it's sound but I still think you're scum as I've already said, and you don't know what tunneling is because, I dunno, I'll be nice and assume it's a language thing. I've kind of been over this, so your efforts to paint me as ignoring your actually pretty pointless questions is kind of a pathetic way to attack me at this point.

[Ythan]

Unvote
Vote: Ythan

I can dig this one

If you're town then by now you should know that acting contrary to anything Midnight's Sorrow thinks is in your best interest.

[Ythan]

At least you're affable. <3

[Ythan]

I'm not seeing any basis for the hush command or the alignment guessing in your post.

[Ythan]

I do. You're barking at a wrong tree atm and also kinda failing at it. We'll look at dram tomorrow or later in any case. At the moment the Exi case IS a good one and dram made it. You say you acknowledge it and that it is sound and you still don't bark up Exi's lane?

Kind of failing at it my ass. i can appreciate the attempt to discredit me without actually having to do anything of your own but at least make it look convincing. I have nothing to add to the Ex case so I'm going to keep at the one I've got. If you think that's wrong then either play better as town or act town better as scum.

[Ythan]

Additionally, you can't be town with Zwet, on the most basic level.

"This, because." Have we ever played together? I think I'd remember yelling at you before if you play this poorly in any role.

I think the risk is minimal and the reward is great.
Now be a dear and self-vote <3

Nice effort.

[Ythan]

or just keep being useless?

Irony thy name is dram.

If Exi is really BP, do you honestly think it's logical for you to be able to give someone unlynchability? XD

just imagine it for a minute ;p

Weren't you blithering on about the bastard nature of this game earlier? When it's convenient, I guess?

[Ythan]

Morning.

[Ythan]

Thanks to either dram for not killing me or whoever else protected me or blocked him.

[Ythan]

Nope.

[Ythan]

Nope to the dram part. I'm not sure what you mean by the first part.

Double ninja (all the way across the sky): Trust? In a mafia game. Also, not everything is from Guys.

[Ythan]

There was that one time he went to the beach with some dudes. He just mentioned it in passing though.

[Ythan]

Why would you out yourself by publicly killing me when you have failed gloriously to undermine my town cred.

[Ythan]

And that's why you gloriously failed. I don't know if I want to play a game where my opponent isn't going to put any effort into his side.

[Ythan]

I thought it was Germans who weren't funny. This is me being nice and assuming it's a cultural thing. Again.

[Ythan]

Should we all bah?

[Ythan]

I don't see one.

[Ythan]

And Sorrow votes a player he hasn't mentioned all game.

[Ythan]

vote: zwet

Seems to me he's third party or something, since he's so crazy.
Couldn't we just have a bastard mod, and not a bunch of bastard posting??? I couldn't get much of anything out of all this!!

what's zwet at? L-2. I want it to stop.

I'm looking at these.

[Ythan]

Jmj and Kai have the same amount of posts. Moth has fewer.

[Ythan]

If that was directed at me I was critiquing Sorrow. If you were critiquing Sorrow then welcome to the party.

[Ythan]

..

I don't know who you are but I hope you don't read Guys.

[Ythan]

Can you please acknowledge that and explain why you voted for one of the

three

players tied for

second

in least posts and then explained it as lurker pressure?

[Ythan]

You're awful.

[Ythan]

I'm finally in a game large enough to broach the possibility of having you policy lynched. To anyone who has ever played with Sorrow or seen a single post from a game of his, you know that he plays exactly like this, all the time, always. Always. Regardless. Real participation is not in his nature.

[Ythan]

Your opinion doesn't matter.

[Ythan]

It doesn't matter if you think that because you're wrong. You're just spouting out nonsense with no regard for context. This is part of why you're a horrible player.

[Ythan]

Everyone please read MS's iso. Have aspirin handy.

[Ythan]

He's not

being

useless

here

.

[Ythan]

Can we catch up before we post and get on to actual suc [sic] hunting? And no I don't think that MS is better than furc. Furc is bad but he attempts to play. MS just spams and is generally awful.

[Ythan]

Not playing the game is a hell of a lot worse a trait to have in a player.

[Ythan]

You don't need to play like me. You need to play like a player. You need to participate in the game and not just make pointless dumbass commentary and sheep votes. You need to die next in this game and first in every game you play until you get the point and leave or stop being horrible.

[Ythan]

My point is not pointless you maroon and if you want to even pretend that it is you need to actually explain yourself. Don't worry about disappointing me, I'm not expecting you to even try. Just post more bullshit until you get lynched.

[Ythan]

vote Midnight's Sorrow

Being a maroon on top of that response to the info claim. He's not trying to learn anything he's asking to be spoonfed.

[Ythan]

Don't need to explain anything actually

I was trying to use vanilla insults but you're a fucking moron.

[Ythan]

Then lynch him. He's worse than any other player I have ever seen on this site, the second worst of whom has the titanic benefit of actually participating in the game and not just being a useless dicknose.

Dram, are you claiming that I'm the only person who has suspected you in this game? Do I need to get on you about your reading again?

[Ythan]

As in maybe actions that target him are inaccurate too?

[Ythan]

Dram I'll be nice if you kill MS so we can actually play today with our lynch.

Cuttle, what do you mean not coming out with role information? How is that scummy in this scenario? As for your thoughts on MS, that's why he needs to be lynched or killed. He's the same worst player regardless of his alignment. He needs to not be in this game.

MS, you don't sound like an ass. You sound like a buffoon. There is nothing to you but everything that can conceivably make a player terrible.

[Ythan]

Also your signature is dumb sophomoric purple prose.

[Ythan]

I had it in my head that the miss was his own role's fault.

Dram, don't shoot me because you never actually made a case?

[Ythan]

Shitdick I just had a post responding to like everything since my last one.

Kai, asking the magnitude with no idea of the effect is completely useless. What could you possibly hope to learn? Other words, explain the use of that question.

Dram, I thought that might be what you meant by shooting me but I was dissuaded by memories of your attitude toward me yesterday. I'm a bit nervous at the thought though, considering how little evidence we're going off of.

Ani, read before you post again. That's two strikes.

[Ythan]

I got it and I don't have a role ability that allows me to understand posts in the thread better than anyone else. I just read.

[Ythan]

Homing device?

[Ythan]

I missed the redacted post yesterday, what exactly was going on with that "Reck won't edit the post" business?

[Ythan]

barometer?
adjusting beacon?
whatchamacallit?

I get the word you used, but not the application.

[Ythan]

Failure-day-vig as indicator for scum does not compute.

[Ythan]

Let's look at MS's posts.

0 Confirmation.
1 Bullshit.
2 Bullshit.
3 Sheep bullshit.
4 Bullshit.
5 Bullshit.
6 Bullshit.
7 Bullshit.
8 Bullshit. Lying.
9 Bullshit. Ignores case with no reasoning.
10 Bullshit.
11 More sheep bullshit.
12 Not bullshit! But useless.
13 Even more sheep bullshit. He practically even admits it.
14 Bullshit.
15 Bullshit.
16 Bullshit.
17 Bullshit.
18 Bullshit full of shit. Later backs out of this explanation.
19 Not bullshit, and actually a meaningful-ish question. One point.
20 Bullshit plus predit bullshit.
21 Here's where he drops the semblance of his vote being even a bad but somewhat reasonable one.
22 Bullshit.
23 Bullshit plus somehow doesn't understand the reasoning behind a policy lynch.
24 Bullshit.
25 Bullshit.
26 Bullshit.
27 Bullshit.
28 Bullshit plus shitty defense.
29 Bullshit.
30 Bullshit. Calls my point pointless but won't explain why because he's a moron.
31 Bullshit. Says he doesn't need to explain things in a game. This might actually be true, if he never posts anything meaningful to explain.
32 Bullshit.
33 Bullshit.
34 Bullshit.
35 Bullshit.

One out of 36 posts was not a waste of space. Congratulations. More votes or a reliable vigging please before he takes another dump on his keyboard.

[Ythan]

Dram are you going off the assumption that your kill will jump up exactly twelve slots again?

[Ythan]

..

Four slots.

[Ythan]

And don't we only have a single sample? It could be random for all we know.

[Ythan]

Welcome to me! Good news is I am already caught up on this (I got bored.) Dram and Ythan are town.

Stop this silly worthless argument. You are cluttering up the thread and talking in circles.

I like the case on Exi at this point.

Vote: Exilion

Maybe he's just taking his own advice.

[Ythan]

Oh awesome a powerful town role. By all means make yourself as big a target as possible.

Ani, that speculation is pretty useless if you don't know what the role is.

[Ythan]

Two or more scum, up to four PRs. If reliable then that's worth considering at least.

Dram, by logic do you mean the shortness of kills last night?

[Ythan]

For real and for EVERY game!

Vasu, you explicitly said that the miller balanced it. You made no reference to anything else. I am warming up to your death.

[Ythan]

Does it skip over dead players?

[Ythan]

And you still explicitly mentioned one factor while neglecting to acknowledge these alleged others.

[Ythan]

Am I missing something, dram, or are you reaching? I did not come to the same conclusions.

[Ythan]

About all of it together.

[Ythan]

I think that in all likelihood it's one/two of, Wraith, Va, or Fate.

[Ythan]

I'm also interested in Cow being STRONGLY anti mod lynch day 1. So was I granted, but for meta reasons. He seemed to be really really really against it. I am speculating he is me (as in, rolename Dramonic)

I have also considered you as a role in the game.

I don't like Va's latest post but I am curious about Fate as well.

[Ythan]

I'm also interested in Cow being STRONGLY anti mod lynch day 1. So was I granted, but for meta reasons. He seemed to be really really really against it. I am speculating he is me (as in, rolename Dramonic)

I have also considered you as a role in the game.

I don't like Va's latest post but I am curious about Fate as well.

What's not to like?

What's to like? There is no justification for a quicklynch.

[Ythan]

Unless the SK claims and can be turned tonight.

[Ythan]

I can't imagine why scum would spend their kill on a relatively inactive player whose only ability is to turn a rival scum into vanilla town.

Cow, your preview edit is scummy. If it's allowed and you refuse to claim like everyone else because of personal reservations then you can be lynched.

[Ythan]

Psychiatrist = half decent SK fake claim in B-mod IMHO. But I'd like to se the rest of the claims.

Also, Vasu, that's notoverpowered, IMO.You know anything about being with CoCo?


Ythan, remember Kai's role?

Why at the first line. At the second line, his claim that it was OP was a breadcrumb. Third line, why?

[Ythan]

Claiming the name of your ability is not mod quoting. And MS read the fucking thread or don't post you waste of space.

[Ythan]

Good luck.

[Ythan]

It's no worse than claiming your role name. And MS you missed it because you don't fucking read.

[Ythan]

I read good.

Exactly.

It's no worse than claiming your role name.

I disagree with that, but whatever. That's more for postgame discussion/MD

And claims are for right now.

[Ythan]

Kill Va.

[Ythan]

Reticence indeed. It's a useless question.

[Ythan]

I expected him to be an SK but I can't say whether the dram-role would be.

[Ythan]

Why does Cow think dram-role would not be a SK?

[Ythan]

Yeah but his "Would you expect you to be a sk?

The answer is no.

" thing doesn't make sense.

[Ythan]

I'd say Va/Wraith but with no word from Fate..

[Ythan]

Fate hasn't posted once in this thread...

Thanks for parroting information we were done with ages ago. Go back into your hole.

[Ythan]

Wraith, neither Vezo nor Dana will die today. Stop flailing. The huge spike in your activity looks bad.

[Ythan]

Kill one of Wraith and Va and lynch the other. MS can live until tomorrow.

[Ythan]

MS is defending spam because it's the only thing he posts. Notice that he didn't address my pbp. Because he is a shit player.

[Ythan]

You haven't contributed anything to this game except your terrible personality and you've had many more posts in which to do so than our real (not active) lurkers.

[Ythan]

Am I going to have to insult you by asking that you take a better look at the thread? Because I've extensively insulted two of the 20+ people in the game. Try to keep it accurate, and relevant if that's at all possible.

[Ythan]

Why would he expect the him-role to not be a sk? You were obviously incorrect about that, so I'm wondering why you said it.

[Ythan]

Nobody answer that. It's super obvious if you read the thread and we don't need to post info scum is requesting.

[Ythan]

See, that's two people too many. I may be a bit hypocritical here (I cannot go more than a page or two without slinging an insult at Benmage, but he's a special case) but I believe it to be completely possible to get through an entire game without using the slightest bit of ad hom. Perhaps if you try it you'll find that people react better to you.

Tough shit I guess.

Oh, and I've already established that I don't intend to read the part of the thread I missed, so you're out of luck there.

I don't think I'm the one who is out of luck.

[Ythan]

Which is why it's ALSO fairly obvious that VV is town.

You know what I hadn't thought of that. Wraith is scum. Fate is probable but that isn't certain.

Preview edit: Not even going to give my advice a shot? I think you may be surprised with what you find if you do.

No offense because this has nothing to do with whose giving the advice but I don't care. This isn't about strategy, it's about my personality, and I'm going to post as I choose. You seem to mean it though so please, I genuinely mean no offense to you. On that note

MS that vote is retarded. Do you have no idea what is happening in this game?

[Ythan]

I would like to know why Ythan is covering for vezok and dana while pushing a vig on either me or VV.

Here's a suggestion: have a cop investigate me tonight, and you'll have a confirmed bulletproof town role.

Because if it weren't for VV's coppish behavior you and he would be much scummier than them. Now he's not even there to draw flak for you. You're scum.

[Ythan]

Weak. Blatant OMGUS. There's nothing behind that vote but a reaction to my attack.

[Ythan]

Notice how MS isn't contributing to the game because he's worse than Wacka.

Zwet is soft accusing me of acting strangely without explaining how or whether it is scummy or town.

[Ythan]

In fact, I don't think I've ever played a game with zwet.

[Ythan]

"You're scum because you don't believe my claim."

For anyone who didn't catch Wraith's case.

[Ythan]

Also I don't think the combo is that broken when the doc/gov is RIGHT THERE and can be killed. Dana and Vezok have done nothing like Wraith (scummy as hell play) or Fate (no play) to arouse my suspicions.

Wraith that's retarded and is pretty much exactly what I said. I don't give a shit if you claimed town.

[Ythan]

Also someone please indicate where I said we should kill and lynch before claims are done. When you're done looking realize that Wraith's case contains absolutely no sound material and was clearly an OMGUS fit.

[Ythan]

Ythan: Vas needs to die.
Somedude: Vas needs to claim his results on Diacra.
Ythan: That dude is scum and Vas shouldn't claim his results to scum.

You missed where I realized the link with your cop defense of dram. But that's okay because you're a cop probably. <3 Now vote a wagon that will actually happen. Hint, not me.

[Ythan]

Which is why it's ALSO fairly obvious that VV is town.

You know what I hadn't thought of that. Wraith is scum. Fate is probable but that isn't certain.

[Ythan]

@Ythan: Erm. You DID catch where I said that Wraith and dana's isos look almost EXACTLY the same, right?

What am I supposed to do whatever you say? I have my own opinions.

[Ythan]

Look at Wraith's posting

tonight

. Recently. It's pretty bad.

[Ythan]

Look at Wraith's posting

tonight

. Recently. It's pretty bad.

[Ythan]

For the reason I already explained you nincompoop. Process of elimination. You can't all be scum! As to your second point I don't even know how to reply because it doesn't mean anything. I had said a/b shouldn't die and then I said c/d should. Congrats you're a fucking genius.

[Ythan]

Also someone please indicate where I said we should kill and lynch

before claims are done.

For the visually impaired. Try to put some meat on your case because right now it's less than nothing.

[Ythan]

I thought he had but every time I visit he takes smoke breaks. I think he's off pot though.

[Ythan]

Oh really?

And what's your proof for me being scum?

Not believing a claim and a sudden spike in activity?

I've explained that.

You're just trying to lynch a bulletproof.

FoS: Ythan

I really want to focus on this post.

Scum ask for

proof

when you provide evidence against them.

Scum dismiss evidence as ridiculous without actually addressing it.

Big big AtE. Oldie but a goody.

[Ythan]

Oh I see he's whipped.

[Ythan]

Then it's certainly on his mind.

[Ythan]

Please be sure to read everything, dana. We're getting a lot of skimming.

[Ythan]

It's a good thing if you don't want to be cool.

[Ythan]

Remember how Wraith OMGUSed me and his entire case fell apart really quickly.

[Ythan]

Reck is making CaffWagon Mafia. I think most of the wagon-inspired material was most likely saved for that.

[Ythan]

So knowing that I think it wouldn't be a good idea, what does everyone say?

I think that if you read

everything

you really only have one option.

[Ythan]

768: Attacks me, VV, and Fate. There is no basis for any of these. If he is accusing me he should also be accusing Dana (as he had the exact same voting and post patterns as I did, as Kai pointed out). VV strongly implied that he was a cop and claimed aprt-Miller, so he's claimed town (this post was before VV's fullclaim). Fate has posted nothing.

No basis except for the tracker/watcher who gave us a list most likely containing at least two scum and process of elimination. For the last fucking time. Now don't get mad when I insult your ability to read.

795: Ythan implies that there is a second mafia

Serial killer. It was a PSYCHIATRIST you oaf.

817: Ythan outright states to kill the claimed cop

I sure did because I didn't believe his claim one bit until I saw evidence.

834: Here's where the war starts. Ythan states that neither vezok nor dana will die today. Then states that my spike in activity is scummy. My spike in activity is due to the fact that I had to claim (in-game) and for reasons I've stated (IRL).

This doesn't actually constitute evidence for a case..

838: Here Ythan pushes Dram to dayvig either me or VV and the town to lynch the other. Let's keep in mind that one is a claimed cop and the other is a claimed bulletproof.

And neither does this..

850: Ythan urges VV, the claimed cop who might be NKed or roleblocked tonight, not to post his results on a dead player for fear the mafia could use the information. This is after he has twice pushed for a vigkill/lynch of VV (In hindsight VV posting his results would mean nothing because Diacria has flipped). This is either a massive flip-flop or scum trying to stop the cop from being effective at all.

And if you acknowledged my whole post instead of just cherrypicking to build your desperate case you would have remembered how truly obvious his result was with any shred of context. AND HE HAD FLIPPED.

857: According to Ythan the claimed cop's coppish behavior makes me scum. Massive flip-flop.

Do you not know what process of elimination is? Because I don't think you do. And that's not a flip-flop, I always said you were likely scum.

866: Grasping at straws by claiming my case is based off him not believing my claim. My case is based off of Ythan defending two scummy players.

That's funny considering you don't seem to have posted it.

871: Claims dana or vezok have not done anything as scummy as I have. Despite both having the same voting patterns as me.

Your play has been different. You're grasping at straws here, to borrow a phrase (and actually use it correctly).

901: Suddenly my entire case is based on OMGUS. According to Ythan, wasn't it based on him not believing my claim before? I don't give a shit if you don't believe my claim, but you're defending two scummy players and pushing bullshit "evidence" against me. Your case against me is that I'm on to you and am therefore scum.

You have no case, and your attack is OMGUS.

Awesome a big ol post of bullshit.

[Ythan]

"AHHHGHHGHGHHH! I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE! GET OUT OF MY HEAD YOU STUPID SON OF A BITCH!"

Reck lunges forward, bashing his head against a rock and he goes unconscious.

dramonic [???], ???, modkilled D2

D2 continues.

Bull. Shit. ಠ_ಠ

Dram is coming back.

Ninja, see I told you.

[Ythan]

Wraith is at the bottom of a flailing fit. He should not be here tomorrow.

[Ythan]

That's a really nice response to me tearing down your wall of shit.

[Ythan]

I think that in all likelihood it's one/two of, Wraith, Va, or Fate.

My first mention of Wraith suspicion, shortly after the facebook claim.

[Ythan]

768: Attacks me, VV, and Fate. There is no basis for any of these. If he is accusing me he should also be accusing Dana (as he had the exact same voting and post patterns as I did, as Kai pointed out). VV strongly implied that he was a cop and claimed aprt-Miller, so he's claimed town (this post was before VV's fullclaim). Fate has posted nothing.

No basis except for the tracker/watcher who gave us a list most likely containing at least two scum and process of elimination. For the last fucking time. Now don't get mad when I insult your ability to read.

795: Ythan implies that there is a second mafia

Serial killer. It was a PSYCHIATRIST you oaf.

817: Ythan outright states to kill the claimed cop

I sure did because I didn't believe his claim one bit until I saw evidence.

834: Here's where the war starts. Ythan states that neither vezok nor dana will die today. Then states that my spike in activity is scummy. My spike in activity is due to the fact that I had to claim (in-game) and for reasons I've stated (IRL).

This doesn't actually constitute evidence for a case..

838: Here Ythan pushes Dram to dayvig either me or VV and the town to lynch the other. Let's keep in mind that one is a claimed cop and the other is a claimed bulletproof.

And neither does this..

850: Ythan urges VV, the claimed cop who might be NKed or roleblocked tonight, not to post his results on a dead player for fear the mafia could use the information. This is after he has twice pushed for a vigkill/lynch of VV (In hindsight VV posting his results would mean nothing because Diacria has flipped). This is either a massive flip-flop or scum trying to stop the cop from being effective at all.

And if you acknowledged my whole post instead of just cherrypicking to build your desperate case you would have remembered how truly obvious his result was with any shred of context. AND HE HAD FLIPPED.

857: According to Ythan the claimed cop's coppish behavior makes me scum. Massive flip-flop.

Do you not know what process of elimination is? Because I don't think you do. And that's not a flip-flop, I always said you were likely scum.

866: Grasping at straws by claiming my case is based off him not believing my claim. My case is based off of Ythan defending two scummy players.

That's funny considering you don't seem to have posted it.

871: Claims dana or vezok have not done anything as scummy as I have. Despite both having the same voting patterns as me.

Your play has been different. You're grasping at straws here, to borrow a phrase (and actually use it correctly).

901: Suddenly my entire case is based on OMGUS. According to Ythan, wasn't it based on him not believing my claim before? I don't give a shit if you don't believe my claim, but you're defending two scummy players and pushing bullshit "evidence" against me. Your case against me is that I'm on to you and am therefore scum.

You have no case, and your attack is OMGUS.

Awesome a big ol post of bullshit.

Make some kind of effort to defend at least

half

of your points from the very first wave of criticism. If you just drop them all at the first sign of trouble it doesn't look like you thought about them very hard. It doesn't look like you really care.

[Ythan]

I think that in all likelihood it's one/two of, Wraith, Va, or Fate.

My first mention of Wraith suspicion, shortly after the facebook claim.

Whoops, missed that one. Point conceded. But I'd still like to know why you rule out vezok and dana.

I was narrowing down group sized x with subgroup sized y of scum inside. I had to start somewhere and I started with how I read the players involved. It seems to have worked out, since then I've become absolutely certain that at least you are scum.

[Ythan]

If you buff does the block still work for that night?

[Ythan]

Dana, obviously.

[Ythan]

I don't get why it's obvious, dumb it down for me?

[Ythan]

I don't get the Ken Kesey thing.

[Ythan]

OH. The author. Is Reck a fan?

[Ythan]

Plausible that it's a variation on the role but is there something that makes it likely? I feel like I'm missing something because it's not even the same ability and you jumped right to it.

[Ythan]

Dram too though, what about that?

[Ythan]

!!!

Looking at the game's flavor, controlling Reck's posts seems pretty scummy.

[Ythan]

Yeah, if you don't ever want to use it seriously then confirming it would be nice.

[Ythan]

Scum roleblockers are so common because there are many more common town PRs. But this is a vanillaless game. Also how does Reck feel about the gym as opposed to, say, smoking.

[Ythan]

I want an iron that burns Reck's avatar into pancakes.

[Ythan]

I don't think anyone's denying that.

[Ythan]

Guys 3. Reck is about to make an off-color culinary decision.

[Ythan]

More game less gay please.

[Ythan]

That was lulzy LMAO

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[Ythan]

Yeah I realized you weren't really a lurker when I was doing isos.

[Ythan]

Moth got back and voted him. You know how I feel about him.

[Ythan]

/confirm

>_>

Reck wakes up in the middle of the night, during a peaceful slumber, and begins screaming at the top of his lungs.

Nothing else happens.

He falls back asleep.

Lol.

[Ythan]

Also, zwet is confirmed scum gandalf? Enlighten me cause I don't see it.

Just make the vote, and when he flips scum, you'll be happy.

Don't be awful, at least until we get rid of MS.