Reck's Mad Mad Mad Mad Mind - MINDFUCK!

[Ythan]

I would like to know why Ythan is covering for vezok and dana while pushing a vig on either me or VV.

Here's a suggestion: have a cop investigate me tonight, and you'll have a confirmed bulletproof town role.

Reeks of SK gloating about his investigation immunity.

Thank you. I thought I was the only one who saw that.

Then why didn't you mention it?

[Ythan]

Wraith might kill scum tonight. We can lynch him tomorrow. But LET'S GO!!!!!!!!!! LYNCH TRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're pissing me off because I was so sure who we could kill today but you're looking terrible and making me rethink.

[Ythan]

Post one thousaaaaaannnnd.
gandalf seems pretty and town.
SocioPath is still active lurking like a horrendously large scumbag.
I don't care for a Zwets lynch.
I like how giving someone an ability and making them unblockable classifies as stuff "going wrong" for dana's role.
dana, if you were modkilled for coming too close to quoting your role PM, why hasn't the same thing happened to gandalf and Wraith?

I don't like this. These posts are either entirely contradictory to reality as I see it or parroting.

[Ythan]

In that case I'll go look. That just sounded like you were tacking on.

[Ythan]

Something.

[Ythan]

Time for my claim.

'The hell?

Do you want to actually dispute the information or are you just trying to undermine it with no basis?

[Ythan]

Oh I did watch dram last night, thought I had targeted Ythan.

So you're contradicting everything else we're going off of in this game including the shift?

[Ythan]

Additionally can anyone else confirm whether Reck said who their ability was shifted to?

[Ythan]

So, to be clear, you targetted dramonic (which was shifted to diacria) and saw dana target him with a kill?

How are you actually buying anything Fate's saying?

[Ythan]

This isn't about me reading you Fate. It's about what you're saying

doesn't make sense

and some of the less perceptive players are hopping on the wagon.

[Ythan]

Ythan, let me help.

Fate claims watcher that only sees killers (such as mafia). He sends for dramonic, but actually goes to Diacria.
He sees dana target dramonic -> Diacria.
WE HAVE SCUM.

And before you claim you've never seen the role, it's a b-mod game.

My god.... ANI has better reading comprehension than YTHAN? *mindsplode*

Or writing then Fate. *mindnotsplode*

[Ythan]

I don't see how any part of what Fate is saying is believable. Plausible, yes. But so is the theory that he's scum (as predicted earlier).

[Ythan]

If I recall correctly we narrowed it down to two scum out of four players, including you and those two. Why would you insure that you didn't die before they did? Good question.

[Ythan]

Which explains not only your delay but the vote itself.

[Ythan]

I'm pretty sure it was going to be you and Wraith before you showed up and made your claim. As for your long term survival, one day is better than no days.

[Ythan]

Thanks for the AtE, Fate. Yours is the best. Wraith is obvscum times five. Look at his iso. And you.

You

Ani, what do you mean about them? I think their sheeping is dumb. I can't say whether it's dumb town or scum not trying too hard.

[Ythan]

Fellow masons as in 2+?

And moar Mothrax votes plz kthxbye.

You disappoint me.

[Ythan]

Way to ignore ani's posts, Ythan.

My bad I'll respond to every post in the thread at one time. I have a lot of respect for you as a player so please don't ruin it.

[Ythan]

But YThan, reckmod said so...

Who cares. Bastard game. I have no particular reason to suspect you.

Ani, if he is a jester then he won't end the game even if he does die.

[Ythan]

It's not paranoia. I know that reading threads thoroughly is not what you're known for but my case on you is entirely based on claims from before you showed up and gave yours that can be either acknowledged or ignored with no logical inconsistencies.

[Ythan]

But YThan, reckmod said so...

Who cares. Bastard game. I have no particular reason to suspect you.

Ani, if he is a jester then he won't end the game even if he does die.

Two words to say.

Bastard Mod.

If you're trying to say that we should listen to the mod because it's a bastard mod game then try to pick your battles.

[Ythan]

Of course I buy Kai, considering that

my case is built on his claim

. And calling that a guilty on dana is terribly deceitful of you. Considering that, as I've said, he probably found a group containing two scum INCLUDING FATE and Wraith the scummiest player in this game.

Fate acting like Dram was believable yesterday would be dumb if he had actually been in the game back then before dram became townish. Now instead of dumb it's just suspect that he uses the "come on" attack.

[Ythan]

Reading Gandalf in iso I'm confirming that I don't buy what he says because I don't buy anything he says. On top of the posting preceding it how about his most recent post where he catches the cognitive dissonance in his play and actually VOTES THE PLAYER HE CLAIMED POSTS AGO TO HAVE A GUILTY ON.

[Ythan]

Fate, even in an alternate universe where you're town your attempts to portray that I'm somehow misunderstanding the thread when I'm building the most sensible case off of our evidence would be dumb.

[Ythan]

I don't reall get what either of you are bitching about to be honest and I read the thread.

I mean this in the politest way possible. Don't fucking post if your idea of contribution is to not read and then complain that everyone else is bitching.

[Ythan]

Your latest post of why gandalf is lying about his role too means that me and gandalf are scum together.

No it doesn't. Don't misrep my case so fast, it's too fresh in people's minds.

[Ythan]

Also, imo tvt arguements boil down to bitching.

tvt?

[Ythan]

So, to be clear, you targetted dramonic (which was shifted to diacria) and saw dana target him with a kill?

If the above is true, that means that dana is confirmed to be the scum roleblocker who submitted a kill on dramonic last Night. Which means that it is either vezokpiraka or Wraith that is the janitor that caused the flip to be screwed up. Wraith's bulletproof claim means it's PROBABLY not him, and the fact that Fate only saw one kill on diacria means that Wraith is therefore NOT the SK, which means that whoever IS the SK, aka whoever tried to shoot ani, but was turned vanilla by killing Stef should CLAIM so that we can confirm two more townies.

So, to summarize, Fate's results combined with my results means that the likelyhood is this:

Town:
Fate
Kairyuu
VV
Wraith

Scum:
vezokpiraka
danakillsu

Therefore, we shoot dana (confirmed to be the killer) and then lynch vezok, or Fate if dana flips town.

^THIS is a sensible interpretation of the information we have. Dram ani, and the other dana voters see it the same way. Why are you the odd one out, Ythan? Its more than devil's advocate this time..

Your reaction is confirming my suspicions because your response to my case is just to appeal to the fact that someone agrees with you and make pointless, and only pointless, comments about how I disagree with you. You're not doing shit and it's really scummy.

[Ythan]

Your latest post of why gandalf is lying about his role too means that me and gandalf are scum together.

No it doesn't. Don't misrep my case so fast, it's too fresh in people's minds.

Ok then, its heavily implied. If not, then what is your interpretation as to me+Wraith being scum with gandalf town havin a guilty on Dana as well as me?

I don't care right now. Wraith is scum and you're scum and what this little bit you're throwing in here does not do is make a conflict.

[Ythan]

town with guily on dana. I

also

have a guilty on dana

Har har. Thanks scum.

[Ythan]

thank you fate. I think I understand now.

Forgive me if I consider this dubious.

[Ythan]

Flavor wise, gandalf is sane.

This matters less to me than even the shit Fate is saying.

[Ythan]

Sorry I'm not also a dumb sheep Fate.

[Ythan]

Ythan: Why are you gearing your argument towards only one person?

...............................................................................................................................

Why does my case pertain to a specific player?

[Ythan]

...

Why did I ever change my vote?

Unvote
Vote: Ythan

MS I know I told someone else I'd try to be nice but you are a terribly shitty player. Please cut your hands off so you can't post anymore.

[Ythan]

I want to take an aside from my present case.

MS seriously just voted me and that was the post that he did it in. Can someone agree with me please that not only does he need to be policy lynched or policy killed but he should be the first member in this site's history banned for his play, if we can call it that? He needs to not be in this game. I'd call him a cancer on mafia but that would not be fair to cancer.

[Ythan]

I have been talking about Fate lately because Wraith isn't around to defend himself and I can only focus on MS for so long without feeling ill. And I'm not going to spend the game trying to disassemble other cases and neglecting my own. My case is right, folks will come around.

[Ythan]

I dislike your bitching, and your obstinate disheveling of the dana wagon, when t was pretty spot on.

No it wasn't. If you think it was then give some indication that you actually know what's going on. Talk about it instead of the whiny bitch thing you're so fond of. I'm not expecting much.

[Ythan]

I'll give you a really simple task since it's not fair to hold you to the same standards of basic functional intelligence as the rest of the players here. Explain this vote.

...

Why did I ever change my vote?

Unvote
Vote: Ythan

[Ythan]

Hey remember when I said we didn't have a large enough sample size to assume that it was always going to be a -4 shift?

[Ythan]

@Ythan

Whats there to talk about?

Nice answer. Is anyone unconvinced that nothing could make this asshole actually participate in the game?

Ninja: I already did son~

No you didn't. I know you're a

little

stupid (see I'm being nice) but what you might not know is that the rest of us do have the ability to glance up for five seconds and see that you're full of shit. Now let's wait for you to not show where you said it.

[Ythan]

I think I'm going to go do something more productive than being in this thread at the same time that MS is making it suck by being alive. Sorrow, please get syphilis and go blind so you can't read computer monitors. On the bright side you don't seem to be too far off now.

[Ythan]

lulz

You do realize your constant jabs at my intelligence only makes me laugh, right?

You make my day with ever snide post <3

Everyone else in this thread is half as stupid as MS (and that's really fucking stupid) if they don't notice that he's ten times worse than Wacka for this game.

Maf, he's too fucking stupid to be a troll. Yes, THAT stupid.

[Ythan]

Oh no, if it's dram requesting then he might actually do it.

[Ythan]

When MS magically doesn't deserve to be derided then I'll be being an asshole. But since you asked nicely.

[Ythan]

Can someone please actually take notice of the fact that the shift was different this time.

No MS, you're not better than Wacka. Wacka plays games, at least until he dies. You don't actually play at all, so he's got about half a game on you until you pull your head out of your ass and realize that this isn't a GD thread.

[Ythan]

By the way, MS is not playing to his wincon. I don't recall seeing in the game rules that you were suspending that site rule here.

[Ythan]

It's your call, being playerdram.

Excuse me but what on Earth are you talking about by it being his call because he's dram?

MS, unless you're the jester you're not playing to win. At anything. We don't have a scummy for what you do because they didn't want to offend folks who got it.

Moth, please read better. There are not multiple people claiming a guilty on him. Act like you know the evidence and you're not just sheeping.

[Ythan]

If you have a problem with my play then you're going to need to be a hell of a lot more specific than 'cool it' because I'm not going to 'cool it' as long as I play this or any other game.

[Ythan]

Oh no, if it's dram requesting then he might actually do it.

Stop fucking insulting everyone. Maybe you get some kind of fun out of it, but it's seriously way overboard
Unless YOUR wincon is piss off everyone, neither are you

If you find that insulting for some reason than that's your problem. Don't whine about a little response like that, especially if you know context.

[Ythan]

Not to bring context back into this but please actually read the quotes in that post I just made and then respond again.

[Ythan]

We have one tracker, one kill-ability-investigator, one guilty. One doesn't mean more than one.

[Ythan]

I appreciate that you're pretending or trying to participate but if your interpretation of that is to make softer than soft vague accusations (hazy? a pair, grow one) then go back to being a plague.

[Ythan]

That was a critique of his case (not the right word but I couldn't think of a better one) before anyone gets their panties in a bunch.

[Ythan]

I want you to think really hard about the differences between the words guilty and killer and targeted-player-x.

[Ythan]

Yeah killers must be scum if their target dies. Thanks for clearing up for me how two different things are actually the same. Seriously, when folks can't get it that I dispute the "lots of guilty results" argument when there is only one, they belong in a game with MS.

[Ythan]

ummm... so if fate only sees people using a kill ability, and he saw dana visit his target, who ended up dead that is as good as a guilty to me.

For the sake of argument because I simply can not believe that you are misunderstanding this, do you think that a vig who targets a player will not kill that player because he is town? You're saying: x targeted y with a kill, y died, x is scum. That is a little bit dumb.

[Ythan]

"because he is town"

He as in the vig.

[Ythan]

You know what, I think I know what this is. Reck you're right I'm going to hate you after this game is over if dana is scum.

I will CONSIDER a dana lynch.

[Ythan]

That was not a cancer joke. I think you're misinterpreting a bit but hey if that's how you want to play it then you do your thing.

[Ythan]

Yes you should all follow MS's example and work together as a team. Replacement soon plz.

Dram, that is clearly not a joke it was deadly serious. Also I said it would be insulting to cancer, not that he was

worse

. MS can only reach so many people, that's where he fails against any disease.

[Ythan]

ITT dram can't see through MS's defensive fake joke facade. Of course he's serious.

[Ythan]

When you say back to the game you should usually contribute something. Or are you asking the next person who posts to do so instead?

[Ythan]

If I pull this (you'll see) off then I will laugh until I cry.

[Ythan]

You are in for a treat.

[Ythan]

=3

[Ythan]

Regardless of whether or not I'm replaced, sorry for the extent to which I have attacked you personally today MS.

[Ythan]

Fatescum you're just PoE. I've decided, as you may have seen, that I can stomach the thought of a dana lynch, but I'd still much rather see Wraith or a MS policy lynch.

[Ythan]

For the last time Fate if you're not going to pay attention to how I narrowed it down then fuck it. I'm not going to spend my time helping you along until I'm at least certain of a place in this game tomorrow.

And I am uncertain of dana's alignment at the moment so there goes that.

[Ythan]

Considering that I've reconsidered my position on dana it's moot.

[Ythan]

And there's a good chance I will considering that some of those people-I-wasn't-talking-to thought it best to contact mith about it. It was probably the cancer thing, which honestly I don't think was nearly the worst.

[Ythan]

It wasn't you doing don't go getting any funny ideas.

[Ythan]

Yeah I didn't think it was you.

[Ythan]

That was the plan.

[Ythan]

I'll try harder then. Or, you seem to have been putting a little effort in lately so maybe not.

[Ythan]

And Cuttle is behind. A pattern I am seeing here.

[Ythan]

Because your time is so clearly being spent on something more worthwhile.

[Ythan]

Ythan, do you think that dana is scum? I lost track of who you suspect after you started accusing Fate for calling his kill-watch a guilty on the guy who claimed non-killer.

I thought that dana was innocent and not a killer but now I've decided to acknowledge the evidence against him.

[Ythan]

Dana, unless you're a miller, you've just outed your scumbuddy. thxmuch

This is pretty stupid. Yes I'm his mason buddy. That doesn't mean he's scum and it certainly does not mean we're mafia together. Where did that even come from? What is the possible benefit of that play on his part?

[Ythan]

By the way, to anyone who is curious why I discounted those two as possible scum..

[Ythan]

They didn't use the QT much. Vezok asked who he should track but then decided on dram before we could input because Reck was bugging him for a target. Interestingly, dana said something along the lines of "you didn't say you were a tracker" afterward. When I saw Kai say that dana targeted him to I asked about it in the QT and never got an answer. He never mentioned anything about his role.

[Ythan]

Reck assured me that they were town. They were confirmed as town masons. That's why I didn't buy the evidence. But it is a bastard game and the evidence is adding up and he did say we would hate him.

[Ythan]

Oh, yes, I know his role name.

[Ythan]

I think that's a theory that can't be supported with any of the meager evidence on the shift that we have.

[Ythan]

AGH.
This is such a weird position I am in. I want to vote dana and Ythan for role reasons, but him being a maon with Ythan makes sense and I don't understand why he would block the same guy that the mafia were killing (unless he blocks and kills at the same time?) And yes I am assuming he's a roleblocker because it falls under "too scummy for a fakeclaim."

Maybe Fate's role gave him the name of the person after shifting? But that makes no sense since Kai's results are accurate. HMMM.

You want to vote me?

[Ythan]

Why are you beating around the bush with this, Cow? If you're town, you should realise that a person not coming out with their role information is probably scum.

[Ythan]

And yet you want to vote on it?

[Ythan]

Well I think mason dana is.

[Ythan]

Another point that makes me think your role was not randomly assigned.

[Ythan]

You're missing the point. The cuteness aspect is not something I see him giving to a random one of the twenty five players, especially when it landed on you.

[Ythan]

I never said that at all.

[Ythan]

I doubt it.

[Ythan]

Yes that is a better question. However, note that his mason partner who's still alive is not calling him confirmed town at all.

[Ythan]

It doesn't to me because I didn't cherry pick like four words out of it.

[Ythan]

And misrepresenting it. The whole purpose of that post is that I'm doubting the confirmed status.

[Ythan]

Yay thin ice.

[Ythan]

And the mason is still alive.

[Ythan]

What changed about Yoshi's flip? I assume it means in the list of dead players.

Gandalf, why would you assume the shift is the same? We've seen it go two ways now, and that's just with day actions.

[Ythan]

The two day kills we've seen from dram shifted differently. Remember?

[Ythan]

Yeah you really should.

[Ythan]

It's probably coming from one role.

[Ythan]

Seems like a nice turn out in the night to me o_0 Two scum for two town. Not bad.

You should not have made this post.

[Ythan]

Dram, in posts where you talk about who you should kill (read: not hit) you may want to make that point clear. I can see it continuing to confuse as it has so far.

I don't by Wraith's "...somehow." comment. It's probably him. Plus he's

so

helpful reminding other claimed players to reveal their fresh results. Thanks.

[Ythan]

Your post didn't do a single thing to speed their results along.

[Ythan]

Wraith is still obvscum, nothing has changed that.

[Ythan]

So he should shoot (and you mean hit) the PGO because the PGO is dangerous.

[Ythan]

Look at the players he mentioned, he clearly means hit. He wants you to target a PGO.

[Ythan]

You were obvscum long before you posted this, and I doubt we can rely on the PGO only working at night.

[Ythan]

Since when do PGOs work during the day? To quote the wiki:

The Paranoid Gun Owner, similar to the Army Veteran, involuntarily kills anyone who targets him during the night, regardless of alignment.

Predit: Then why were you considering shooting mothrax earlier in the first place?

I find it difficult to believe that you would be so narrowminded in this game as to quote the wiki of all sources on roles. You're lying.

[Ythan]

We're not going to do anything to Reck without a damn good reason.

[Ythan]

As I said, very little. They didn't use the chat much. I'll go find the link, I didn't ever bookmark it on this computer.

[Ythan]

We talked a little about general strategy but it didn't go anywhere. Dana talked about how we were confirmed and how Diacria I think was probably scum. Vezok talked about who he should track. Dana seemed concerned that he didn't know Vezok was a tracker. I suggested that they claim only their personal abilities, so as not to out all of us when we weren't all implicated. After that I decided dana was probably scum and stopped communicating with him.

[Ythan]

Alcohol.

[Ythan]

Morning.

[Ythan]

I don't remember seeing it established that he was one-shot.

[Ythan]

Unless you want us to repeat "the dealio" for you you could just read.

[Ythan]

Well, I haven't gotten my investigation result yet, but I targeted dram, which should have meant I investigated Kai. I couldn't investigate Fate, because I would have had to target myself.

Why would you use it on Kai?

[Ythan]

So do it?

[Ythan]

Unvote you because...of your claim?

[Ythan]

SO KAI, NOW I JUST OUTED ANOTHER BUDDY FOR NO FUCKING REASON?

Pretty much, if you're telling the truth. Don't act mad, nobody made you.

Reading further, please quit being wrong. At least until we get rid of MS. Speaking of which

MS if you don't claim we're going to lynch you. Very quickly.

[Ythan]

You're the worst kind of person.

vote Midnight's Sorrow

I would hammer you if you were a confirmed SS.

[Ythan]

No because you're a shitty player who's refusing to take any sort of pro-town or town-necessary action for an entire game. =3

[Ythan]

Considering that you don't do shit and are now refusing to take part in a MC I wouldn't be so sure.

[Ythan]

I'll check in later to see if anyone who matters has posted. Given that we seem to have decided on a MC I'd like very much to hear any justification for not doing away with MS as soon as is feasible.

[Ythan]

I don't know what games you're drawing his meta from but this is how I've always seen him act. Useless, terrible, obnoxious. He is not the kind of person you can call "too terrible to actually be scum". He's really just that bad.

Additionally, if we're going to skip him in the MC then you better all agree

beforehand

that he not be allowed to live after getting a pass.

Shit-ninja'd.

[Ythan]

Reading further, quit being a dumbass. You're seriously no better than MS if you partake in my mislynch.

Spend more time defending yourself and less time bitching about the fact that the whole thread isn't sucking your dick.

[Ythan]

TWO GODDAMN MAFIA HAVE BEEN KILLED AND NO ONE MAKES CONNECTIONS FROM THEM!

Says the guy who I've never seen do anything on the site.

[Ythan]

Yeah it's a matter of opinion. qq plz

[Ythan]

Too casual to actively play the game. Can someone meaningful PLEASE post? We're all together on MCing and lynching MS right? And he just can't read?

[Ythan]

Ythan, confirm or deny Cuttle was in your masonry.

He was a backup mason. Briefly.

[Ythan]

It's 2010. I don't see why third party players still try to argue that they can't hurt town.

[Ythan]

I'm =3. I'm a smiley that Reck uses all the time since coming out. I had two additional abilities but they were powered by my buddies. Now that they are both dead I don't have them anymore. The names of the abilities were themselves smilies, a happy one and an angry one. When I targeted someone with one of these their action would also cause a protection or kill respectively.

So if you've seen me say =3, that's why. I haven't caught the gay.

[Ythan]

Getting yourself lynched by not claiming is going to interfere with your plans to have Fate deaded.

[Ythan]

You've won?

[Ythan]

Claiming early is good.

[Ythan]

Someone wants me deaded <3

And in the game too if possible.

[Ythan]

I seriously doubt MS's claim. Apart from the fact that he put it off like a douche, this is a power heavy game and his only "power" is one that other players have had in addition to their other abilities. He may be BP but I doubt he's otherwise vanilla, or town.

[Ythan]

Question-What's the fucking hold up?

Literally die.

[Ythan]

Read the whole thing. He may be BP but that doesn't fit with the other claims. There's more. He will be viged.

[Ythan]

ITT ythan is butt hurt MS isn't gone yet lol

Do you madlib post or just not know what words mean? Since it's you I'm feeling the latter possibility. I am sorry that basic education has failed you so profoundly.

[Ythan]

retardoderp

I'm sorry could you repeat that I don't know what that means.

[Ythan]

Don't ask questions and then bitch on before you get responses. Poor form chap. Still on the topic of bitching, yes MS's shitty play bothers me but throwing anything I say under that and disregarding it is nearly as stupid on your part. So, you know.

[Ythan]

I see little evidence to indicate that he isn't, considering the game.

[Ythan]

You bolded the shift. And there's nothing misguided. If you disagree then say so instead of softing it in there.

[Ythan]

Less likely, because that's the non-retarded way to act in a MC.

[Ythan]

You still would have hung, but the way you acted made it impossible that anything else would happen.

[Ythan]

Oh. <3

[Ythan]

Um, cool. That's the kind of meta I want. "Don't bullshit me or I will fucking explode on you!"

[Ythan]

Eh, maybe.

[Ythan]

I agree with Midnight's Sorrow.

[Ythan]

I knew it was coming. I decided to use his full username just to make it even more quotable.

[Ythan]

Kai is my favorite. <3

vote Midnight's Sorrow

[Ythan]

Playing another game with manho?

[Ythan]

Welcome to mafiascum.net, dram.

[Ythan]

I want to hammer at least once!

[Ythan]

If he was a jester he wouldn't end the game. And he probably would have claimed one-shot.

[Ythan]

On the chance that he is a jester I'm perfectly willing to give him a secondary win if he can't post anymore.

[Ythan]

If anyone doesn't get this yet, Reck vowed after the first Guys mafia game that he wouldn't use game-ending jesters anymore.

[Ythan]

Pretty sure there were concerns earlier in the game.

[Ythan]

No. You're ability confirmed if anything, like you said.

[Ythan]

I don't think it's unbelievable that scum would have a backup for a town PR.

[Ythan]

Can you at least wait until we get some kind of feedback?

[Ythan]

Hey Fate why don't you bitch about it.

[Ythan]

I'm done bitching, the majority has correctly seen the light.

Now I'm just sadly dissappointed the minority includes you, Ythan.

If you want to convince me then you should try to do that instead of just complaining all the time.

[Ythan]

Lol MS died. : D

[Ythan]

Completely ignoring them is dumb regardless.

[Ythan]

My response to MS's death and flip was to send Reck a text reading "Thank you for this."

So no.

[Ythan]

Maybe it has something to do with the system's terrible controller.

[Ythan]

Lol cartridges.

[Ythan]

Yay the last Fate post.

[Ythan]

EVEN BETTER

[Ythan]

Also MS says he's laughing because he's mad that even unlynchable couldn't keep his scummy ass from being lynched.

[Ythan]

Will didn't drop hints in his other bastard games did he? I wasn't in Guys pt. 2 pt. 1, and I didn't really read Guys pt. 2 pt. 2 because I was a lyncher and Ythill won for me.

[Ythan]

Reck didn't drop hints in his other bastard games did he? I wasn't in Guys pt. 2 pt. 1, and I didn't really read Guys pt. 2 pt. 2 because I was a lyncher and Ythill won for me.

[Ythan]

Thought? I think he knows. It's more an issue of whether he's telling the truth.

[Ythan]

Was it a track or a watch? Either way it's the same info. My

role

is the same as I claimed before, as is my alignment. Reck did give me something to make up for losing my mason buddies/abilities/people to reliably use those abilities with.

[Ythan]

It's just a proxy inspection. I'm not trying to get out of you whether it was a track or watch, it's the same info anyway and I was just curious. A note, I think I would have gotten a proxy block if my replacement mason buddy had stuck around, but he didn't.

Here's the juicy bit, since I'm out with that much. I know specifically who the inspection hit (Fate), so if I know the shift I can know who I hit/who targeted Fate/who probably killed Fate.

[Ythan]

Proxy as in the same as the abilities I had when I had two buddies. I target a player and tack on another effect to their action. Now I can target person X to inspect person Y that they target. When I said I hit Fate this is what I meant. It means that Mafuyu targeted Fate.

[Ythan]

Remember, I said I had smiley-entitled abilities to add a kill or protection to the action of the person I targeted? And each one was powered by a buddy so when they died I didn't have them anymore. Then I got a replacement mason buddy but he died too and now I still lack the first two but I have a third (or fourth and missed the third) one.

[Ythan]

Because the business end of my ability hit Fate and if you know for certain that I hit Mafuyu then that means Mafuyu targeted Fate.

[Ythan]

Surely he wouldn't arbitrarily change the self-targeting rule mid-game.

[Ythan]

How did you forget? I know that if you were inspecting last night you thought about the shift.

[Ythan]

I doubt that you wouldn't even check.

[Ythan]

That's an explanation. It might fit but it puts you behind other players who didn't have to explain themselves.

[Ythan]

Which makes remembering the number more or less useless.

[Ythan]

I don't get how you wouldn't remember overnight.

[Ythan]

I don't buy a player with a constant PR forgetting how the shift works.

[Ythan]

Don't get ahead of yourself. I'm still at the stage of questioning your mistake.

[Ythan]

Yeah unless you're going to try your dubious daykill on me I think I'll be fine.

[Ythan]

Quite the opposite really.

Bullshit. I know you're an sk and all but pick someone else to try to imagine a case on.

[Ythan]

Quite the opposite really.

Explain this, actually. Look at everyone who is still alive and the evidence on the table and the cases thus far and explain why you said this. "I'm trying to undermine a more townish player earlier on so I can take care of the scummier ones later" wouldn't be the best way, just fyi.

[Ythan]

The fact that you targeted someone and you claimed a role with no targeted abilities.

[Ythan]

If you targeted yourself you probably would have hit Soc.

[Ythan]

He asks, not waiting for an answer to cast a vote.

[Ythan]

And he fucking hammered.

[Ythan]

in

[Ythan]

I thought I was a JGL lover, why didn't I suicide?

[Ythan]

Ythan, you have one post to provide an explanation.
Better make it efficient.

Explain what? He had a night action, and I said I knew he targeted a killed player. He obviously did but was not the killer.

[Ythan]

No, you just can't read. As I have said, my ability turns the target's ability into also another ability.

[Ythan]

Kise is listed as a one-shot reviver but MS is not listed as anything like one-shot lynchproof.