IEC, IN HIS DIGITAL JOURNAL, wrote:Notes on SA3
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1. I have not heard Noise either night.
2. This is my second Stars Aligned game -- I was in SA2 -- but I was Murdered N1 in that game. I still followed SA2 to the end, but I didn't bother keeping track of all the complex rule discrepancies players claimed as I followed along, though.
3. Noise claims are pretty necessary to keep things straight and spot discrepancies later on. hito's rhetoric shows lack of familiar with the Ward action. Weakly implies that he is scum, since scum are on average maybe slightly less familiar with the Ward action. On the other hand, scum have daytalk.
4. Who's the other half of LostButterfly...? <_<
5. OK, so. It looks like Furco is scum on D1 for lying about Noise/Ward. This is not an error Investigators would make, especially since he follows up by saying that it should be rectified. So why is he still alive?
6. Oh. A mod error. Town on Furco, now and forever. I bet he heard noise N1.
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7. Furco is silly in 27. Searching for an RK is the ideal action for pretty much every player. But he is still town.
8. MoI's 29 looks scummy. Lots of irrelevant stuff -- no reason to discuss Murderers that don't exist, except to point out that it is a move for players who don't care about winning if taken early, etc. -- and a smear on townFurco.
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9. Leaning town on xvart from 52-53 (he posts the Noise bit and corrects RC). The list itself is nullish, but the post before it is also good.
10. Is D1 going to end in an RC lynch? Cuz idk about this "why I want Furco alive" rhetoric. That is old news. May be scumtalk telling someone to point it out without noticing its been done.
[cheats]
Yeah...no IC, though, so idk.
10. Benmage is aggressively dumb in 55. Kunkstar is scum for wanting to lynch Fate. Then he votes Fate. Dunno what the "I didn't hear noise" claim is about.
11. OH. OK. So why the hell are both Benmage and Fate still alive? EDIT: Wait, why the hell does Benmage stalking Fate have to do with anything.
12. Fate is female?
13. Why does everything think Fate is scum?
14. Also, why would Benmage want to wagon someone he'd just stalked...? <_<
15. Also, why would ANYONE stalk N1, since town can only Stalk once? EDIT: Oh, right; Benmage is just a dummy.
16. LB echos my feelings in 83.
17. OK...why we got RC over Benmage is getting ugh.
18. OMG IT'S FARADAY OR MAYBE FARSIDE OR SOMETHING WITH MINA OMG HI MINA. <3
19. God I want to kill Benmage. Not because he's cult, though.
20. Seacore 130 is scummy. While it's true that killing Benmage is tempting, there's no real reason to do it prematurely.
(I've stopped bothering with pages now. I'll put little pages in occasionally, but I may forget.)
21. RC apparently DID hear noise (via rewq). Question is who's more likely to freak out in the thread when that happens. Not sure I know.
22. META-THOUGHT
I just realized that Fate definitely didn't Stalk N1, so he was probably proper scum (unless he got petty and stalked N1). But lots of people irrationally thought Fate was scum D1. Possible really fail distancing? I can't remember who did it, though.
23. sottyrulez gets scumpoints for whining about discourse not being productive.
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24. @ hito I think Murders and NKs have distinct flavor, so that wouldn't work (178). Also, you're forgetting the opportunity cost of missing a resuscitation kit.
ALSO, YOU'RE FORGETTING THAT FATE IS NOT NECESSARILY CULT.
ALERT ALERT ALERT. SCUM SCUM SCUM.
Vote: hitogoroshi
25. MoI is very wrong in 187. I mean, what he STATES is accurate, but he's ignoring really important information. Furco is town.
26. Yeah, SK wouldn't take Suicidal for sure...it's an impossible win. Of course, he could just be lying.
27. Vox failing to accept FurcoTown looks bad.
28. rewq is not reading the rules carefully enough.
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29. Good catch from Furco. AureusVox made the same error as hito before. Possible scum connection, if someone posted to make this error to appear town. I remember discussion about lack of familiarity with the rules looking town in SA2.
30. RC's certainty that BM is scum looks bad. So does his thought that both are scum (245) . Those are both unlikely cases. If Fate flips scum, I wouldn't be surprised to see RC flip scum-who-found-resus-kit.
31. SX is. Uh. Idk.
32. RC's vote for SeaCore kinda makes sense, though. I guess. What the hell did Seacore mean back there, anyway? I don't remember someone making that claim.
33. OMG ANDY <3<3<3<3<3 Even though implying Furco is not confirmed town is scummy, because the only way anyone would EVER think that at this point is if they were scum with him.
34. I will write SX/Fate slash someday.
35. @ Andy -- I think Furco's gotten better since SA2. A little. I know he made a solid effort in Holy Orders, for example.
36. I am disappointed with Andy's catch-up post, by and large. Please be town, Andy.
37. I agree with Mina or Faraday or whoever the hell LB is in that post. EDIT: I think it's Faraday
38. VDV's comeback post is really bad. Ignores TONS of stuff; votes someone with like 1 post. Who'd voted scum (probably).
THOUGH: If it looked like Fatescum was going to die, you'd think scum would try to distance from him a little more. But then there's so much irrational chainsawing going on protecting him so idk.
39. WTF WHY DO PEOPLE NOT GET THAT FURCO IS CONFIRMED TOWN GOD. @ BABY SPICE 292.
40. Now Plum's doing the same thing as VDV...I dunno...I suppose I might've thought Fate was town in context...
41. RC's 298 doesn't make sense. If someone claimed a Ward on you, that means you won't die, cuz it would show that they didn't really Ward you.
42. I JUST NOTICED THAT BABY SPICE'S AVATAR IS MR. TENNANT. YAY.
43. HOWEVER: Warding at random seems dumb. I'd think naive town would search for items.
44. Now everyone is careening away from my reads...as DGB says VDV is town...
45. Furco -- I think Plum played to her scum meta as I understand it in your Greek Mythology mafia. Or I'm pretty sure that was your game...
EDIT: It was DeathNote. BUT -- that's a game I'd flip through. I called her scum mostly on the basis of meta there and was correct.
46. Why does Andy have a high opinion of CSL? I don't know Tripod, though. Another player supporting a Bowser wagon on the basis of literally nothing. I don't get it.
47. gj finding BMtown, tho.
48. Andy is super-cute, but his post is not very pro-town...
49. Y'know, Bowser may actually be scum distancing from Fate, if that's what scum decided to do. idk. CSL's Unvote post (344) looks really dumb.
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FASCINATING FACT: MY SLOT HAS YET TO POST.
50. Mina-my-super-town-friend-half-of-LB returns. <3
51. Not sure why Mina doesn't like MoI/Spy/Andy for possible scum...SX is a little iffy, but that's all.
52. I love that she is the ONLY ONE to share my view of Bowser. I even thought everyone was being weird about Bowser BEFORE I knew that Bowser was CSL. <_<
53. VDV has the WORST SCUMLIST EVAR in 390. WORST EVAR. HORRIBLE.*
* I suppose he could add Furco to make it a little worse.
54. Hmm. I wonder what Andy will list as his scum meta re: Wicked...
55. THERE'S the Furco I know and love. <3
56. But seriously Furco, LB is definitely Town.
57. I think "Drippereth" is unambiguously intended for the Dripp+Katsu hydra.
BUT, Percy should probably confirm whether "Drippereth" pregame would have defaulted to El Goosuki. That kind of ability resolution stuff should be known to the players.
I still think Furco is near 100% Town based on someone's (Seacore's?) prior claim that Elli and Drip post outside the hydra in QTs. As such, there's no extra reason for Furco to make that mistake as scum. There IS a greater chance of him lying, but that's separate.
A thought: since Seacore knows this well enough to bring it up, you'd think he'd be more hesitant to lynch Furco. Slightly odd play there.
58. Furco's claim that Mina intentionally posted as Mina is LOL-tastic. Oh man.
Also: you're asking about pragmatics, not semantics.
59. I love you, Furco.
60. God, SSBF tries to 1-up VDV with an awful scumlist. Seriously. idk wtf is going on with you people. I guess RC is kinda scummy, tho.
61. Oh man. I will write Furc/all slash.
62. idk why Percy won't just confirm Furco's request. We're outguessing Percy to determine Furco's alignment regardless of whether hes the extra mile. Whatever.
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63. I really don't think LB is scum, Furc. I mean, I do have an irrational affection for Mina, but still.
64. SSBF is scummy (491). Possibly a weak distancing MoI, since his attitude there doesn't jive with his anti-Furc ideology.
65. Three cheers for AV voting MoI before it was cool! Yay! Maybe he's town after all.
66. Yeah..I like pretty much all his views. I still don't like hito's one point if Fate flips scum, though. AT ALL. But literally everyone all game (sans me) has been like OMG HITO <3<3 so I'm not gonna bitch too much about that.
67. Hito gets town points for saving Furcie. <3 He needs to explain that post from way back, though.
68.