New Designer Mafia (Victor(s) are crowned)

[DemonHybrid]

Vote: Plum

Also, my roles were Bomb, Hider and Sensor. I'm not very imaginative, I know.

[DemonHybrid]

Vote: Xalxe

[DemonHybrid]

Zoraster made a good point, and to be honest, before I checked this game again, I was in RVS. Didn't get a Day 1 PM so I came in late.

I also suspect you because I do the SAME EXACT THING in games where I'm scum. Good first impressions mean everything, but it just seems fake if there's no scumhunting behind it.

Ill continue to vote without reasoning occasionally, thank you very much.

[DemonHybrid]

OLINEA, YOU BOLDED THE WORD DETONATE.

Vote: Olinea

[DemonHybrid]

chesses comments are as stupid as normal.

I can't tell if this is ad hom or basic mudslinging.

Detonate.

[DemonHybrid]

Olinea, you have to be joking. You bolded the word detonate, the mod most likely missed it the first time, but the, suddenly, two people died.

I just want to hang you because you're now lying to our faces red handed. Give it up and die.

[DemonHybrid]

I seriously can't believe we're trying to decide who killed chess, intentionally chess or not.

#1:

Detonator

. Starts the game with a bomb. Each night, the player holding the bomb may pass it to a player of their choice. At any point during the daytime, the Detonator may type

Detonate

to kill the person holding the bomb.

chesses comments are as stupid as normal.

I can't tell if this is ad hom or basic mudslinging.

Detonate.

This is after two posts arguing with Chesskid.

I am not a detonator.

Mods might have changed that mechanic to PMing.

So, you bolded Detonate as a JOKE after arguing with the TWO people who just died, and those two people just HAPPENED to die after you posted that, especially with one EXPLODING.

Likely story bro

Typically, daykillers seem like they'd have to post in-thread. Flavor strongly suggests a Detonator.

If it's a Detonator, the only one who could have pulled it off was danakillsu when he quoted my post and said "Olinea isn't the detonator"

Fucking ridiculous. Read your first post.

the Detonator may type

Detonate

to kill the person holding the bomb.

You are lying to our faces.

Also, as dana pointed out, technically I first did it in Post #9 which leaves a roughly 24 hour grace period of several vote counts BEFORE the death. As such either the mods are not on their game or I'm not a Detonator.

You are lying to our faces.

Olinea, you have to be joking. You bolded the word detonate, the mod most likely missed it the first time, but the, suddenly, two people died.

I just want to hang you because you're now lying to our faces red handed. Give it up and die.

No, I'm not joking.

I can give evidence that I'm not a Detonator but it requires a player who hasn't posted in the thread yet, and will most likely result in a fullclaim, which I'd rather not do, obviously.

YOU ARE LYING TO OUR FACES.

The mod very likely missed the detonate on the first votecount after you posted it but then went "whoops, something happened" and killed off chesskid and cooldog.



tl;dr: Olinea, lets assume that you are a TOWN Detonator. Saying "whoops, I fucked up. Yes, I'm a Detonator and I killed the wrong person ._." would gain COMPLETE understanding to me but you are at the point where you are CONSTANTLY LYING.

Olinea, I know you're rather new to mafia, but not entirely new, so I'll ask you this: Have you heard of a Lynch all Liars policy?

[DemonHybrid]

Please answer my question/s Is your entire case based around the assumption that I am a Detonator?

If so, when I prove that I am not a Detonator, is this grounds to remove your vote?

Yes. And yes.

But therein lies the problem; you've already proven that you ARE the detonator. And your post:

I am not a detonator.

Mods might have changed that mechanic to PMing.

shows that you are lying.

And because you are lying, you should die. And that's why I'm voting you.

[DemonHybrid]

Alright, so this is the only way to get the wagon off of my back -- I've seen what happens when DemonHybrid tunnells and it ain't good.

Furcolow, vote for me.

Olinea, so help me god, if you're lying as town and you want to die just to prove a point, you have no clue how angry I'll be.

[DemonHybrid]

I'm claiming to get DemonHybrid to stop tunnelling on me.

Of course it's not going to be precedent or anything.

That's a dumb reason.

Can we get Furcolow to confirm this and get the person who submitted the role to confirm as well?

[DemonHybrid]

Furcolow....

....oh right, now I remember you. You're a VI.

Vote Olinea. Please confirm this.

[DemonHybrid]

-_-

It's not about the alignment, it's about the role. All you have to do is vote him, wait for a votecount, and then unvote him.

[DemonHybrid]

Olinea and I have played together before, but before his time I had a game offsite where I tunneled someone hardcore and was wrong as a townie.

I'm 90% behind this lynch, but I'm waiting for the votecount; if Frank's vote counts, I'll reconsider. But so far, the evidence is pretty damning. We're not dumb.

[DemonHybrid]

Llama, is Furcolow not voting Olinea a mod error?

~The votecount is correct to the best of my knowledge

[DemonHybrid]

Olinea is telling the truth then.

Unvote

for now. This whole detonate bullshit makes no sense.

[DemonHybrid]

IS, there are some really screwy roles in this game. I'm favoring a yosarianite Olinea at the moment since he was able to flat out confirm what he was saying OR out him and his buddy, assuming that they are in fact scum. Someone else was able to confirm the role too, after he had claimed.

[DemonHybrid]

Yeah, I'm around. I apologize, I was finishing up Mundania.

I'm not really liking IS's obsession with the fact that there IS a detonator over the fact that Olinea being a detonator and lying to us is the only important thing out of this whole ordeal. However, he's starting to realize that, so I'm okay with him.

tajo gives really weak reasoning with his votes, but I'd have to look at him really closely. His reasoning is right, but his effort is lackluster; this isn't indicative of scum, however.

At this point, I'm willing to believe Olinea. I would not be so surprised if there was some sort of PM dayvig who took the fact that Olinea bolded the word "Detonate" and used that to frame him. It would have to be VERY elaborate to set-up, so I'm just not buying it anymore. There might not even be a detonator.

I just don't know who to vote for at the moment. Everyone seems well-versed in solid opinions now, even if they weren't a few pages ago.

[DemonHybrid]

They're different. He's trying to find the Detonator and kill him straight out. I just wanted to know if Olinea was a Detonator, and now that I know he's most likely not, I don't care whether there's a detonator or not.

[DemonHybrid]

Furcolow, so you think the possibility of someone else detonating a bomb by PM or with other trigger to frame Olinea is 0%?

Why would scum loverize two vanilla idiots like chesskid and Cooldog and not save this ability for a better use?

Regarding the case on me, Its pretty obvious I was talking about other role besides the Yosarianite, which is the role I WAS TRYING TO PROVE.

Do you think or are you a scumbag jumping with stupid reasoning?

Vote: populartajo

I'm getting a terrible terrible read from this post. What a bucket of wifom.

[DemonHybrid]

This incriminates IS a little bit more. He went above and beyond with his Olinea tunneling.

I have to do some rereading, I'll be back tonight.

[DemonHybrid]

DemonHybrid
Ehh...I don't like your early game play. You've gotten better though.

DemonHybrid's Question: Who is scum?

tajo and IS I'd say. I'm much less sure about IS but I'm keeping an eye on him; I'm not sure if his meta is to tunnel that much, but even I know when to let off Olinea when the evidence pretty much presented itself in the form of Frank's vote on him. Even after IS let go of the possibility of Olinea being a detonator, he wants to lynch SOMEONE who is a Detonator, none of which made sense because the only person in this game who bolded Detonate was Olinea.

tajo is just scraping by on light questions without doing much scumhunting at all and injecting WIFOM when he feels like it's necessary.

DemonHybrid is probably scum, DH's switch onto IS after Olinea doesn't read nicely but the movements across the ISO in general push me the wrong way.

Can you explain this further? Do you feel that a presentation of evidence is not an allowance to switch your suspicions?

[DemonHybrid]

Also, I apologize I haven't been giving mafia the attention it needs; I've been running around like crazy, but I have some time this weekend.

[DemonHybrid]

To Plum:

I understand your concern. Let me go back and explain further.

You're mostly concerned about how my IS suspicion was rising, but how I kept my vote on tajo.

The post I voted Tajo for introduced WIFOM in the way that discussing -why- chesskid and Cooldog were loverized and at the same time somehow putting it down as a farfetched concept of scum to do. But basically, who cares? Why should it even be a concern about who loverized them and why? I think that stands as a cover to blanket the lack of scumhunting Tajo does. Since we don't even have any scumflips, I doubt we could even make sense of that information at this point.

IS seemed vaguely suspect to me; you need to remember that IS is probably second on my list and never crossed tajo in suspicion. In the post DH ISO #16, my reads were a jumble after Olinea proved Yosarianite (and he did, at least, to me). Some light suspicions, but no solid ones and was DEFINITELY not ready to vote anyone.

IS looking to lynch the Detonator, or the "explodey role" as he devolved his terminology into, over Olinea as Detonator was turning VERY scummy, but he changed his opinion. He seemed to calm down after presented with the right evidence and took a 180 viewpoint on lynching the explodey role. Hell, ender came out as the Post Bomber and IS laid off of him, and, yes, sorry to say, I don't have a read on that move.

As far as ender claiming Post Bomber, you can argue bad timing, but I would be more concerned for the person who actually SUBMITTED the Post Bomber role for not coming out when we were on Olinea's case. Knowing that at least half of his wagon was on him for a Lynch all Liars policy but not coming out screams bad intentions.

However, right now, I'm going to

Vote: ender

. Not due to his role or his claim, but because of this post:

FOS:Xalxe

Then it's back to you after a reread mate, there's something i disliked:
Earlier in the thread you asked for top 3 town and top 3 scum, this gives information to the scum and helps them out in choosing the right nightkills.
If i find more reasons i'll be sure to vote you.

He seems to be looking for justification to vote Xalxe before he actually does it. He posts this quite randomly after Xalxe tells him to start scumhunting. Goes straight from NO SUSPECTS to suspecting Xalxe, apparently after an ISO. Took him 15 minutes to do this. I'm not buying it.

Xalxe reads townish to me. While I agreed with zoraster before on Xalxe's habit of posting statistics over scumhunting, he's actually improved on his scumhunting.

Then there's Olinea vs. Tasky. While I feel Olinea is town now that this Post Bomber business has been solved, I have not a clue how I feel about Tasky. Obviously I feel like his read is wrong, but is it genuine? Still trying to figure that out.

[DemonHybrid]

Some EBWOPS: you need to remember that IS is probably second on my list

to

you need to remember that IS was probably second on my list


and

Hell, ender came out as the Post Bomber and IS laid off of him, and, yes, sorry to say, I don't have a read on that move.

to

Hell, ender came out as the Post Bomber and IS laid off of him, and, yes, sorry to say, I don't have a read on ender's claim. (Even though I have a read on him at this point)

[DemonHybrid]

By the way, I like the video idea. I will probably do it in a Mini sometime.

[DemonHybrid]

Not only that...

unvote
I liked your promptness in linking to your meta, Xalxe, plus you've been playing better recently
I don't care if you're the top wagon. I'm not sure you're scum.

I'm going to vote a lurker, danakillsu
He has hardly posted. What little posts he has have been negligable, and really concerned with the detonator situation as opposed to scumhunting, even if it is through that situation. He's just not pushing forward. This is also shown in that he has given out more suspicions than actually placing votes down on people.

vote: Danakillsu

Who are you kidding? Xalxe wagon is so out of steam

I actually agree with Xalxe and IS
I'm finding Dana to be scummy
happy with my vote

Unvote, Vote: Furcolow

with ender as my 2nd suspicion. There is definite scum within Xalxe, ender and Furcolow, but I'm not sure who or how many.

[DemonHybrid]

And did anyone actually send in a cop?

[DemonHybrid]

Vote: ender241

This suspicion has not gone away.

[DemonHybrid]

@Nocmen:

However, right now, I'm going to

Vote: ender

. Not due to his role or his claim, but because of this post:

FOS:Xalxe

Then it's back to you after a reread mate, there's something i disliked:
Earlier in the thread you asked for top 3 town and top 3 scum, this gives information to the scum and helps them out in choosing the right nightkills.
If i find more reasons i'll be sure to vote you.

He seems to be looking for justification to vote Xalxe before he actually does it. He posts this quite randomly after Xalxe tells him to start scumhunting. Goes straight from NO SUSPECTS to suspecting Xalxe, apparently after an ISO. Took him 15 minutes to do this. I'm not buying it.

Xalxe reads townish to me. While I agreed with zoraster before on Xalxe's habit of posting statistics over scumhunting, he's actually improved on his scumhunting.

Then there's Olinea vs. Tasky. While I feel Olinea is town now that this Post Bomber business has been solved, I have not a clue how I feel about Tasky. Obviously I feel like his read is wrong, but is it genuine? Still trying to figure that out.

This in a nutshell. It hasn't changed.

[DemonHybrid]

What the hell are you doing?

Xalxe is a non optymal lynch. Yesterday some people were voting him instead of Furcolow who is now confirmed scum. This gives Xalxe some town points as Im pretty sure its the lynch scum wanted until the last moment where Furc made the slip.

lets lynch coug who is OBVIOUSLY Furcolow scumpartner.

I was asked for a top three. Furcolow is scummy, but not to the extent of you three.

diescumdie

Coug, what is the difference between IS and Furcolow?

Internet Stranger was clearly throwing crap at Olinea to see what sticks, while Furcolow's logic regarding Olinea's wagon makes little sense.

I asked this precisely because InternetStranger and Furcolow were doing basically the same thing when attacking Olinea for the detonator stuff, yet Coug somehow thought IS was scum but Furcolow made little sense.

Vote: StrangerCoug.

tajo makes the most valid point of all. He's really have gotten better as of late.

Unvote, Vote: StrangerCoug

, it's a valid bandwagon and a popular one. The multiple scumteam speculation seemed a little fishy, but this pushed things over the top. Ender still sits at #2 for me.

[DemonHybrid]

...well...thoughts? Claim? Anything? O_o

[DemonHybrid]

Sorry guys, probably going to do a full post when I have computer access at my parents house late this night about my opinions so far. Not going to get into detail since I'm on my phone.

[DemonHybrid]

I'm having a ton of weather and car problems. Post coming in a few hours, apologies.

[DemonHybrid]

I dont even want to understand what has happened with all the revival and the 1955 snipping.

Furcolow....
....oh right, now I remember you. You're a VI.

When hunting for possible scumpartners, DemonHybrid came up as second suspect.
Other reasons include voting using weak reasoning and backtracking on his read on me to support a lynch on a townie.

DemonHybrid's Question: Who is scum?

tajo and IS I'd say.

tajo makes the most valid point of all. He's really have gotten better as of late.

Vote: Strangercoug

and killing Plum.

Unvote Vote: Demonhybrid.

also constant apologizing (scared of being caught scumtell).

Sorry guys, probably going to do a full post when I have computer access at my parents house late this night about my opinions so far. Not going to get into detail since I'm on my phone.

I'm having a ton of weather and car problems. Post coming in a few hours, apologies.

Tajo, my car broke down on the highway and Im without a desktop until further notice. Could you be patient?

[DemonHybrid]

So, fuck it. Going to post this with spelling errors and abridged thoughts.


plain and simple, I don't like the IS StrangerCoug vote. And while I can see the case on DeathNote, I've played a few games with him and I think he has a naturally scummy play style. Xalxe comes off as a strange person to me, rather than a scummy player. I also don't understand all of this night kill speculation. What happened happened, it's too early to try to figure out who did what.

Vote: Internet Stranger

[DemonHybrid]

So XalxeScum, tell me this: Why wont you vote for CougScum?

Notice that CougScum said

MULTIPLE

Scumteams. Not

TWO

. He used the word

MULTIPLE

. So why are you stalling? Clearly the topic is "StrangerCoug, which scumteam is he on?" now, why are you being deliberate in your attempts to avoid the subject?

Why XalxeScum, WHY?

2FOS: Xalxe

This post.

I don't like how you tested the waters with the Xalxe FoS, especially in a theatrical way, then switched to SC when Nocmen pushed you around. Tajo just happened to convince me and push me over the edge whereas you felt like restating your suspicion for Xalxe first. I dont feel comfortable with it.

[DemonHybrid]

eBWOP: Correction; also didn't see the broken tag at first, but the point still stands that you felt like you needed to restate your Xalxe suspicion the whole way along the SC bandwagon just in case the suspicion was switched. I don't like FoSes and Votes in the same post.

[DemonHybrid]

DemonHybrid, whats wrong with having FoSes and Votes in the same post?

Also if IS thinks both Xalxe and Coug are scum, whats wrong on him restating his Xalxe suspicion?

I feel as if the xalxe suspicion has been a constant backup. He sort of rides along on his SC vote while making a stronger case against Xalxe, yet not voting for him. I don't find it authentic; somethings off.

And yes, a majority of cases where FoSes and votes happen in the same post, it's bad news. That's for mafia discussion and not here though. It's certainly not the basis of my argument, as IS did it all bandwagon.

[DemonHybrid]

DemonHybrid, whats wrong with having FoSes and Votes in the same post?
Also if IS thinks both Xalxe and Coug are scum, whats wrong on him restating his Xalxe suspicion?

I feel as if the xalxe suspicion has been a constant backup. He sort of rides along on his SC vote while making a stronger case against Xalxe, yet not voting for him. I don't find it authentic; somethings off.
And yes, a majority of cases where FoSes and votes happen in the same post, it's bad news. That's for mafia discussion and not here though. It's certainly not the basis of my argument, as IS did it all bandwagon.

You are missing the point. If IS thinks both Coug and Xalxe are scum, then its not bad to vote for one and restate his suspicion on the other. Having a stronger case is irrelevant in the context of a wagon with a lot of momentum.
Also, link me to those cases where FoSes and votes in the same post mean bad news.

You are missing mine. He states much more for a case for Xalxe, and instead if voting him or convincing people of his scumminess, he gives a weak reason for hopping on the SC wagon but keeps his Xalxe suspicion running. In that context, I find it scummy. Xalxe, no matter the alignment, is an easy lynch, and I think that if IS was genuine on how much he suspects xalxe, he wouldnhave left SC alone. I don't find it genuine.

In my current state, I cant link you anything. Regardless, I can't li k you meta. I've been in one position where someone did that and they were scum. I've only ever seen it done that one time. I'm talking common sense scum tell though. Would you agree that FoSing someone and voting them at the same time, while scum, makes it a lot easier to have an out? If so, would you then agree that it's appealing?

[DemonHybrid]

I don't like how you tested the waters with the Xalxe FoS, especially in a theatrical way, then switched to SC when Nocmen pushed you around. Tajo just happened to convince me and push me over the edge whereas you felt like restating your suspicion for Xalxe first. I dont feel comfortable with it.

This is a bad case imo. It's reaching and it doesn't hold up when you consider IS had been after xalxe since forever.

If you had to choose out of deathnote and xalxe who would you choose?

If I HAD to choose? Probably DN, since I'm running mostly a meta case on him.

Also, I'm not talking about IS's Xalxe suspicion being scummy. It's the fact that he went along the SC wagon and pushed it while talking bloody murder for Xalxe, something isn't right about that.

His case on SC: he's scum, tajo and olinea made a good point.
His case on Xalxe: *five paragraphs long regarding Xalxes scum tells and why he is scum*

He only FoSes Xalxe, in fact, twice in the same post. It's a little strange.

[DemonHybrid]

This game needs more from more people.

DH calling Furc a VI does fit well with him being Furc's partner. Plum kill is interesting - she was known to be a spent loveriser, so I'm guessing whoever killed her is fairly likely to have been a suspect. Xalxe fits well here. Did Plum suspect DH? Can't find it. I don't see the backtrack on tajo and vote for SC as particularly scummy.

Plum didn't fully suspect me, but in her video, she noted that she thought something was up and had questions for me, which I answered and she didnt respond to.

[DemonHybrid]

tajo, you continue to make good points.

I reread DeathNote's ISO, and I can back his lynch at this point after the Xalxe flip. His votes and thoughts have been nothing but sheeping all game, which goes far beyond a scummy/lurky meta. No one is going to bite on the IS bandwagon, so:

Vote: DeathNote

[DemonHybrid]

no QL plz?

Yeah, good point. We should hold up at like L-4 or L-3 to make sure nothing sneaky will happen. There are a lot of weird vote mechanics in this game so far.

[DemonHybrid]

Player	Role #1	Role #2	Role #3
danakillsu	Odd/Even Night VigMasons	Role Copier	Robber
Olinea	Detonator	Artist	Mafia Matchmakers
WhenInRome	Tattletale	Cultist	Silencer
StrangerCoug	Kamikaze Pilot	Voyeur	Rolecop
zoraster	Yancy	Time Traveling Killer	Handwriter
chesskid3	Deathmiller	???	???
CooLDoG	Day Vigga	Porn Star	Rush Limbaugh
Demon Hybrid	Bomb	Hider	Sensor
ender241	White Mage	Governor	Suicide Bomber
Xalxe	Lolcat	Xemnas	None
DeathNote	Jester	Hidden Traitor/Medium	Restriction
Tasky	Background Noise (CooLDoG)	???	???
Nocmen	Drug Dealer (chesskid3)	???	???
Fishythefish	Vanilla Townie	Graverobber	???
Sevei	Hider	Inventor	Ninja/Thief/Assassin

A copy of Xalxe's role submission claim table.

[DemonHybrid]

Are you serious? Nocmen was killed =|

[DemonHybrid]

Chess, what did you give him?

[DemonHybrid]

Are those all of your options, or did you give him a pill that did a random effect of any of those? Stop being vague.

[DemonHybrid]

In fact, given that it was a Vanilla TOWNIE that was submitted....there wouldn't be a possibility of that. You aren't allowed to submit roles of a certain alignment.

[DemonHybrid]

Christ.

DeathNote

begging

to be hammered is either extremely bad AtE or he's got a death-activated role going on. I'm inclined to think chesskid's reverse Death Miller is what we're dealing with here.

DemonHybrid, you mentioned submitting a Bomb. Given the possibility that DeathNote is a Bomb of sorts, who should we have bring down the hammer?

I was going to say IS...

DN is on my blacklist if he is actually town, which I highly doubt. Been meaning to say that since the meaningless self-vote.

[DemonHybrid]

Oh dear. Finally reached a blacklist...

If you are town, you probably underestimate just how severely anti-town you played D4, to the point of doing a 180 against your win condition.

[DemonHybrid]

Fuck.

So, I'm going to come out of hiding now, since apparently my reads and gut are going to shit. I'm the Time Travelling Killer, Town aligned. I go back 2 days in the past, kill a player, and all actions that they have caused are erased.

Night 2, I killed ender. I found him ultra scummy, and I wanted cooldog and chesskid back.

NOTE TO COOLDOG AND CHESSKID: Start using your confirmed town status WISELY, and pressure everyone for the love of god!

You have no clue how valuable TWO confirmed townies are, especially at this stage in the game.

Night 3, I attempted to kill Internet Stranger, but he didn't die. I still didn't like him.

Night 4, I killed Sevei. I didn't like the lurky demeanor + occasional large post that threw out a few reads that she was doing, but DN obviously looked worse, so I voted him.

Also, Nocmen neighborized me. We talked quite often before he died and I released this information to him secretly to help me with my decision, since I've always thought he was town, but was killed before he could give much input.

So...

Why am I claiming?

For a few reasons:

1. My reads are going to shit, and I'd like opinions from the rest of town. ESPECIALLY *hint hint* THE CONFIRMED ONES.
2. We're at a point where a good lynch and night kill can be absolutely critical for a town win.
3. We're getting off track and starting to lose focus, focusing on the anti-towns over the weird players....however, Amrun is on the right track with Zaj.

Honestly, I'm not much use without your help; I may even be a hindrance, and I'd hate for that to happen.

So, I want good opinions from everyone on who I should kill as well as lynch opinions. If there is a doctor, I'd love for him to be on me.

[DemonHybrid]

Messed up my tags.

@Llama, can you put a end bold tag at the end of the word "god!" instead of the extra bold tag? Thanks

~Tags fixed

[DemonHybrid]

Lets start with this.

Vote: Zajnet

Because saying that you have no excuse for not delivering read information and then saying "If you MUST know, I DEFINITELY don't do that so obviously as scum" doesn't exactly absolve you.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M ... ificDenial

[DemonHybrid]

I can use it every night, no restrictions that I know of.

Sevei looked like lurker scum with a tendency to "get her act together" every couple of days and post a bunch of reads...I wasn't really too comfortable with it and decided to go with my gut, since the DN lynch turned out bad.

[DemonHybrid]

I submitted a kill for Internet Stranger Night 3 (to happen on Night 1) but it didn't go through. Protected, or a roleblock or something, who knows.

Nocmen said something about being careful not to assume townies that are brought back are confirmed, since this game could have any role, but I find it extremely, highly unlikely. You bring up a good point. My kills don't affect lynches though.

[DemonHybrid]

Oh, and I forgot. Nocmen neighborized me, and I got the power to 1-shot neighborize someone else. I chose Plum the night that she died. Cue absolute frustration.

Laying all the cards out on the table.

[DemonHybrid]

So you can't resurrect someone who was lynched?

No, just affects night actions. For example, if Joe was lynched Day 7:

Joe- Bob, Ted, Nick, Aaron

4 to lynch

and I kill Nick Night 5, Joe is still dead.


@Zajnet: Nocmen was a Chain Reaction Neighborizer and was killed.

[DemonHybrid]

...a 1 shot doctor?

Can anyone confirm that? That's a ridiculous role.

[DemonHybrid]

Unvote

This day is not ending early.

[DemonHybrid]

I didn't claim just for someone to be quicklynched with NO input from a confirmed townie and no plans for what to do with my night action.

Pay attention.

[DemonHybrid]

Also, someone pick a person to shot: Admiral or IS?

That was definitely an attempt to quicklynch.

[DemonHybrid]

*for me to shoot

i r gud at speling

[DemonHybrid]

Who would you suggest?

Assume that Zajnet gets lynched today and flips mafia.

[DemonHybrid]

In fact:

@EVERYONE: We are not lynching until the following happens:

1. Every player in the game gives me two top targets for a vig kill
2. Chesskid and cooldog both give reads of everyone in the game along with a little bit of evidence to support it (yes, I'm making you guys do work)
3. We find out if someone submitted this Flower Bomb role or not

The person who hammers a player without these three things being done will be shot in the face.

[DemonHybrid]

So let me see if I understand this. A straight up KILLER is asking us to give him all the townie reads (ie: the reverse of the asked for scum reads) and in the same breath is still trying to place halos on both CoolDog and Chesskid and even on top of that attempting to paint Admiral and I in some sort of superevilbadman scumbrush when in the post right above it the angelic Cooldog was asking everyone to apply pressure.

Needless to say Mr. Killer, im less than impressed.

For all we know youre another one of them time traveling zombie recruiters and filling up the allegedly unconfirmed Group A with resurrected scum. With no Zoraster, we cant get any more info on what you do, yet my initial suspicion when you claimed is coming true. Youre now trying to dictate the game Demon. THAT is EXTREMELY scummy. ESPECIALLY if you turn out to be a god damn SK.

Needless to say, this little attempt at being a Killer White Knight is something im going to find suspicious no matter what happens.

FOS: DemonHybrid

I'm sorry, I got a pretty good laugh out of this.

Can we get zoraster in here to shove actual logic in your face by saying that he was the one that submitted the role and knows how it works?

Also, I'm dictating the game because people like you are FAILING at lynching scum and this boost is just what we need at this stage in the game. Like I said, it's a CRITICAL point.

[DemonHybrid]

There are multiple scumteams and multiple vigilantes with different mechanics. By not having a near perfect lynching record, the game is doomed to fail for town. There are 12 players left. That's half of the original player list. Perfect scumhunting and town cohesion is REQUIRED to win the game, hands down.

PEdit: Tasky, your vote doesn't work, says the Llama at day start.

[DemonHybrid]

FAILING AT LYNCHING SCUM?!?!?!? TAKE THAT BACK! TAKE IT BACK NOOOOOOW!

You can talk smack about the people making cases on other people that didnt pan out, but MY case on XALXENINJASCUM was FUCKING SPOT ON.

Oh I cant wait to see you flip SK, Demon. I will dance a happy jig of joy.

That was one case. The Xalxe lynch was good, but if you hadn't noticed already, we lynched two townies along with the two scum. We need to get our fucking act together.

[DemonHybrid]

Just so you know, I'm a humble guy. I'm failing at vig killing, unless you are scum that was doctored or bulletproof. Then I was just unlucky.

[DemonHybrid]

Didn't try to paint you as scum in that last post, but okay. I was actually trying to equate myself to everyone else who is failing to show that I'm not the hottest scumhunter in the game so far.

[DemonHybrid]

...I hate you guys.
I called IS as scum so long ago.

Pretty sure I was the first one to call IS scum. His play has been the most obvscum I've ever seen in a game of mafia.

Remind me never again to confirm chesskid and cooldog as town. They did absolutely nothing to help out the town. Not a single thing.

Zajnet's speedlynch was so godawful after the first few pressure votes.

I really don't know what else to say

[DemonHybrid]

One more thing: I apologize for my kill on Sevei. I rolled the dice on that one and it came up snake eyes.