Reckamonic's WoW Mafia (Over)

[Gollum]

Hey uh, Fonz.
Horde does not scum imply
Alliance does not town imply

Scum setting up a botched miller claim? Not on my watch.

I'm horde and town.... just saying.

Oh, uh, well then... well, that would explain how we can have a cult when horde should clearly be grouped. I was thinking Undead may have been the cult, or even the mods doing some freaky mess. I'm going to test out voting the mods Day 2 if I can just to be sure they weren't immune to votes Day 1. Just a small test, then I'd vote according to the results of that.

You guys are gonna have to fill me in on the flavor this game.

Flavour may or may not be added here...

I think the OP would have given us too much of a reveal of the true enemy. Also, by NOT including town-aligned horde characters in the writeup as protagonists, the mod pretty much makes any such players look scummy/millerish. The most likely reason for no OP is that the mods are too wrapped up in playing WoW. I hope we get good storytelling with these scenes.

But what I would like to know is whether the different horde races are unified, or separated based on race?

This head is firmly under the belief that Krazy is town being wagoned for idiotic reasons, and either this will lead to a waste of D1 with a useless mislynch, or a 50 pages of bullshit like in OoT.

We have a cultist, too.. My view on things is that townies tend to

start

these funny little wagons first, and the scum try to slip on when they feel confident it's worth laying a vote down (see:Chronopie). If there are any skilled members of the mafia, I'd bet that they are reserving their vote while still being active posters.

Can't say I'm thinking you're town, Arthas. There's no way you would know anything about Krazy's alignment with the cult, the possibility of other 3rd party roles, and the possibility of more than one mafia group. There's no guaranteed information at the moment other than Reckamonic cannot be voted against. Your post read more like a saving grace for if/when Krazy flips town, to say you told everybody so. What you haven't mentioned, and what I'm interested in, is your thoughts of the wagoners themselves. Namely, your thoughts on LLD & Kat as the firestarters.. but feel free to list everyone that voted Krazy.
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BABY SPICE

... THOUGHT THIS WAS A VOTE, DIDENT YA?
So

BABY SPICE

, since you have caught up... your thoughts on this clusterfuck?

[Gollum]

BEFORE THE FLIP(S), BABY SPICE. BEFORE THE FLIPS.

[Gollum]

Lots of other thoughts. Unprintable thoughts.

Will wait for the Mods.

Preview edit

Gollum, perfect description.

Preview edit 2

Shh, and let me post

*does not compute*

I don't need to give you any fucking opininons about the wagon
HE FLIPPED TOWN

Give opinions, or get dealt with. Playing this game means more than sitting back and calling someone obvtown. Krazy hasn't flipped anything yet. For all we know, it was a fakeclaim designed to mirror an actual scum role. The fact that a dayvig and bomb are likely to collide is coincidental as hell, and would give this game momentum if it turns out to be reality.

[Gollum]

Heh.. how did you manage to jump out of your skin in 163?

I actually wasn't going to bother with you due to what was talked about in the signup threads, but you're well deserving after all.

@166:
It should be obvious why I left that piece in, in italics keep in mind. Why do you think the next quote I use is Shotty's?

@167:
Toog... Okay. No. It's not hard for me to figure out why I "ignored" it either. But if you want to talk about voting scum,

Vote: Chronopie

... No?

[Gollum]

K, so can I have your opinion on Krazy's wagon now? And why/what made Krazy obvtown in your eyes?

[Gollum]

Then again, judging from OoT when shittastic wagons appeared on both me and Gandalf on D1 for no reason

Hmm.... driven by town/scum/mix if you can recall?

[Gollum]

Actually I remember, because I was there...

*forgot he fakeclaimed Aikage*

[Gollum]

BBL. Nero is reading page 1 as of 20 minutes ago.

[Gollum]

I'm still on page 15, and somewhat the last couple pages. Fuck's happening this game? All I saw was a bunch of VI activity, caps raging, role-quoting, and people saying other people were lying yet there have been no follow ups.

Benmage didn't read the thread but apparently knew LLD was popular enough to be wagoned. This raises the people's eyebrow.

Fuck's a mockingjay?

[Gollum]

No, Tragedy. No. Color =/= alignment.

[Gollum]

NO MEANS NO. FOR THE RECORD, ALL DEAD PEOPLE ARE TOWN.

[Gollum]

I see the slip.

Vote: Tragedy

I shit bricks.[/b]

[Gollum]

Level 85 is the cap introduced in the latest WoW expansion, BTW.

[Gollum]

We've already established that Benmage is the cult leader. He will slowly day recruit us one by one until only those he deems most worthy control half of the living player list. I feel like reconsidering my vote due to BS going after Tragedy.

Kise might be replacing Gollum, also. Just a heads up that I may usurp Nero sooner or later.

"."

[Gollum]

Reading Tragedy's iso shows me this isn't the first time she has wondered about blue being town and red being scum. But the thing is, Tragedy, IS blue a town alignment or IS IT NOTÉ

[Gollum]

'Nuff playing around.

Unvote and Vote: BunnyLover

Discuss.

[Gollum]

what is this i dont even

[Gollum]

Horde is town. I asked when I got my role pm

You had to ask? Your win con didn't make it obvious enough?

I might can could 'haps go with a BS lynch today.

@Baby Spice: How do you know you lost your vote?
And if the Mod wouldn't answer that "Horde is scum" in thread, I highly doubt they would answer it in pm's.

HOLY FUKCIN SHIT, THIS IS SLIPAPOLOOZA!

[Gollum]

Kise might be replacing Gollum, also. Just a heads up that I may usurp Nero sooner or later.
"."

You have always been a thorn in my side Smeagol. A DAMN THORN!!!

We should be voting cult/Benmage or scum Tragedy.

[Gollum]

@my weaker half there is a post for you in the Grotto. Read it.

[Gollum]

Shit got quiet.

[Gollum]

unvote;vote:Vezok

[Gollum]

Vezok is kinda townish, Gollum.. ya don't know? I thought fonz was more likely to be cult leader due to wondering about each perk for races. As in, the cult recruiter was likely told they may not be allowed to recruit certain types.

[Gollum]

Wtf Is profiling?

[Gollum]

O wow. Fucking fail, trag. Fullclaim and/or suffer quicklynching.

[Gollum]

He Fakeclaimed. Member?

[Gollum]

Baby Spice, how long are you without a vote? And is someone else able to use your vote or do you not know?

[Gollum]

My bad, Fonz. You wanted us to list our other 2 choices - NOT race bonuses.

Unvote; Vote: Baby Spice

Sorry, Gollum. Vezoky is town, and BS needs to the pressure.

[Gollum]

......

That explains a lot.

I thought shotty and mocking both flipped scum alliance... Hence why I asked about Krazy's PM.

CARRY ON.

We thought the same. Apparently there are TWO town factions.

[Gollum]

I read up to page 15. Something like that.

Shotty was town as fuck though. Chrono was wrong for that. On that note, why claim the kill?

[Gollum]

Actually that proves nothing in a Reckamonic game. I've seen weird roles before, and if I was a betting man, I would bet that the cultists had to decide whether to kill or recruit IF they were given a factional killing ability.

Claiming the kill just reads more as self-preservation and, "oh look, cultist wasn't me!!!"

Chrono, I know you for your mindgames. But that said, you looked a little townier day 1 when I first voted you. I just think you could have been more careful with both choosing your victim and choosing a time to claim. There was literally zero attention on you today.

[Gollum]

did...

Did mothrax just QT slip and out two people?

DID HE?

Lol, looks like he mistook IPie with inHim. Can we just lynch BS regardless of claim? The mods prefer the night phase > day.

[Gollum]

She ignored me too. Ain't that a bitch?

[Gollum]

DAMN IT PIE, I WAS ABOUT TO FAKE L-1 HER

[Gollum]

Naaah.. all BS would have seen is me screaming L-1 at her.. the votecount would have been secondary, if only after she scrambled to put her role PM in the reply box.

Big Daddy: "Kise is gone now."

I set up audio-recorders beneath the desktop. I know who the three cult recruiters are.

[Gollum]

MODS, WAKE UP.

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p2877173

READING IS TECH, KRAZY.

[Gollum]

Vote: Chronopie

If you couldn't shoot, then what were you doing last night?

[Gollum]

HE will be roleblocked? HE will be <2nd ability goes here>? HE will die?

Hold on a second.... *checks role*

The mods never once used

he

or

she

, always

they

.

[Gollum]

Trying to Roleblock Benmage.

In case he was actually serious with the

Day

Recruits.

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WE HATES YOU!!!! WE HATES YOU FOREVER!!!

[Gollum]

Interesting. I see vezok & Arthas have HE in their PMs. Hmm. Still not sure why it's important for you to know race bonuses, Chrono. Anywho, let's slick on away from this one..

Unvote

I'm wondering more about inHim's role-sucking shit.>> Anyone here play Cycle Experiment? There was a role like that on the scum side iirc.

[Gollum]

We are disappointed that Substrike rather hide in his QT then find bad scummers with us.

vote:substrike

[Gollum]

Don't get it twisted though. I'm still expecting something from inHim about what he's been doing.

Also worth [my] interest enough, I believe I saw Subby log on 20 minutes ago. I wonder where he done went.

[Gollum]

He went to his qucktopikz to ask for the helps.

[Gollum]

From a balance standpoint, what alignment would make sense for those who are redirection-immune and those/IHSIB who can redirect?
I am also confused, but mainly how vezok being redirected to Fate would steal his power.

[Gollum]

So who else here is a Shadow Priest and can confirm they redirect or something other?

[Gollum]

Unvote; Vote: inHim

Until/unless there's some clarification from others.

[Gollum]

*cackles*

unvote; vote: substrike

[Gollum]

@Panda: I don't have my own comp right now. My comp up and died, and I'm waiting on new hard-drive. I'll hopefully have it back by early next week, but meanwhile, my activity is limited.

When was this? This serious question.

[Gollum]

Unvote; vote: toog

Haven't read in a while. Just caught a wagon and saw the reasons for it. Damn late, but damn good catch too.

[Gollum]

Btw guys, I love bunnies.

We agree that bunnies taste good.

The game is stalling. All those with useless votes or no vote should switch to Trag or Toog.

[Gollum]

I have a feeling Krazy is trying to get us to claim ever since our scene with Chrono... What was your reason for suspecting us again, Kraz? I remember it being along the lines of vibes/gut/bull.

[Gollum]

I'll let you handle this one, Golly. Go easy on this one.. or not.

[Gollum]

Well, Nero is having net issues so I can't he can't do this. I won't post his material but he'll around to you when he's back, Krazy.

vote Gollum

Something about Gollum's posts just really bother me. I feel like for two of them, their posts feel very restrained. They do make some points (like the "He" vs. "They" in role PMs... which I actually was thinking myself but have yet to make up my mind on). It's also interesting that his first post is like "Here are some thoughts! N STUFF!" and after that he's like... I dunno, slinky. There's nothing I can really bullshit and try to pin him to because nothing he says is all that unreasonable... which just bothers me more. Not sure if this vote is really going to do much but it's my thoughts for the moment.

This is nothing more than gut. You're throwing around the word lynch as if you're sold on us being scum, when here, your REASON for voting is gut. Don't bullshit a bullshitter. I know you want to know why I went after Chrono. I've been playing this game long enough to recognize all forms of role-gauging.

You can tack on new reasons all you want (lurking, for example). Your initial reason for voting us has nothing to do with lurking.

But yeah I'm lurking. Shit's getting intense over in [REDACTED] so I've been letting/hoping Nero would pick up the slack here.

[Gollum]

Well, Nero is having net issues so

I can't

he can't do this. I won't post his material but he'll

get

around to you when he's back, Krazy.

Amended.

[Gollum]

Replacing Sathoris

Whoah, didn't get any prod. But I did forget about this game

So then.. how'd you end up coming back in time to see this?

Substrike, why did you want to know my alignment?

Correction, I do want to know your alignment, still.

You still haven't answer the question.

[Gollum]

Yes, Krazy.. what is it?

[Gollum]

vote:Krazy

[Gollum]

Gollum
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p2906178

That's all you, buddy.

Based on what the write-ups are feeding us, it's evident that this is cult vs. town. The claimed & guessed kills come from those with vig powers of some sort - Fate & Chrono killed 2 of the victims N1, and I'm guessing Fate & Krazy killed 2 of the victims N2. Those third kills are unexplained. I don't want to speculate for too long, but I'd think the scum were townhunting rather than culthunting.

@vezok: You're not supposed to be able to do anything, correct?

If scum did at least have the capability to submit kills last night, I believe I know what stopped them.

@Grey: Krazy claimed recruitment immune PGO who may selectively vig to pass off the PGO "shield." He vigged Fate, so now he's apparently able to be targeted. Though this is not a bastard mod, his role is useless for town. If he's already immune to recruitment, it's fucked up to let him also kill 3 people that touch him as an added perk. I've been scum with Krazy during marathon and he's using that same tunnel tactic where he ignores everyone else's mislynch. I don't mind Nero (Gollum) suspecting him due to this.

Also, we thought about one of the Pies being cult recruiter, but have since become curious to possible connections. I haven't been able to discuss this with my other head for a while but we're hoping to deliver focal thoughts soon.

[Gollum]

What for?

"let him also kill 3 people" ? I can't continue to vig after my charges are gone, and vigging (as I did on fate) uses up my charges. "ignores everyone else's mislynch" what the hell are you even talking about?

Kill 3 people by your lightning shield. You didn't forget, did you? I mean the magic number IS 3 isn't it? And I'm talking about you avoiding those wagons yesterday. Not to forget your forced hammer of BS.

[Gollum]

Because of your kill-claim for shotty. I didn't see the need to claim like that unless you just wanted some kind of cred during a time when no one suspected you. And also, you were in favor of either a mass role claim or mass race claim.. or class claim. Some kind of claim. I wasn't sure what benefit you personally were looking for, unless you were cult that wanted to know who could and could not be recruited.

[Gollum]

Which is also why I'm not satisfying Krazy by claiming because I know full well that what he's been trying to get from me.

[Gollum]

Well Gollum that's something other than answering questions. Nice omgus, though.

Tell us what you would like answered, Master Krazy. Gollum has had scum read on you for awhile now, long before you ever called Smeagol bad scum.

[Gollum]

NOT belonging to Horde?

Sheeyit..

Unvote; Vote: vezok

Perhaps conversions DO render a player's powers useless then, on top of making them non-Horde/non-Allegiance. I'm DTF with this.

[Gollum]

You cool with that, Golly?

>.>

[Gollum]

You're acting like a jester, GI.. just saying.. You replaced Sathoris, bud.

Unvote: vezok

Vig food.

N1 I shot The Fonz. He seemed lurkish and trying to glide by on D1 without drawing attention. It failed, but I'm guessing due to a protective role/me being RBed. I could see justification for someone potentially protecting him on reputation.

@Tragedy

There's only two ways I don't tie the noose myself: 1) You claim your profiling choice and it matches my race. 2) A doc steps up and claims to have protected you. And #2 is HIGHLY unlikely.

Well on that note, Tragedy, did you protect Fonz?

[Gollum]

I protected the troll race last night. Can't help you anymore.

Active Abilities:

Flash of Light

- Each night you may protect someone from a kill. Except males. They can just protect themselves.

So, you did not in fact 'protect the troll race last night?'

Immune. Protect. Almost thought they were the same thing.

3. I protected Katsuki since I got bored.

I don't even feel like waiting on AGar. You were all over the fucking place like spaghetti microwaved for too long. How could you confuse protecting trolls with Katsuki?

On that note, Katsuki, get your ass in here.

[Gollum]

How could you confuse protecting trolls with Katsuki?

Kat lives under bridge.

[Gollum]

You read tonight... Well, you should definitely claim before night phase. I put a delayed kill on you and unless you change my mind, I'm not undoing it.

I'm not fullclaiming either. Is your mind blown yet, Krazy?

[Gollum]

Reckamonic you sonova bitch. Give the town all these killing roles to help the cult outnumber the playerlist.

Motherfucker. This angle would mean Krazy at least started out town if he's susceptible to harm now.

[Gollum]

You read tonight... Well, you should definitely claim before night phase. I put a delayed kill on you and unless you change my mind, I'm not undoing it.

I'm not fullclaiming either. Is your mind blown yet, Krazy?

You read tonight... Well, you should definitely claim before night phase. I put a delayed kill on you and unless you change my mind, I'm not undoing it.

I put a delayed kill on you and unless you change my mind, I'm not undoing it.

delayed kill

delayed

DELAYED, MOTHERFUCKER, DELAYED

[Gollum]

Krazy's been culted, yeah... I notice you didn't jump to vote on us when the day started and asked the mod a senseless question, knowing damn well the mod can't confirm or deny things like that.

As far as vezok: Chrono, you got this? I wouldn't be able to kill anyone else for 2 more nights - Kat can be killed tonight.

[Gollum]

GI, what makes you think Krazy is more so mafia than cult?

[Gollum]

The reason I asked, GI, is because I went back to check and Krazy is the only other claimed Troll (recruitment immune race). However, with you not mentioning that as a reason for Krazy being non-cult, it makes me feel that you subconsciously put vezok in the cult category (screaming "HE"S BEING BUSD" as a distraction) and tried to get us to focus on Krazy by putting him in the non-cult-scum category.

Until there's a mafia death (which I doubt), I'm thinking this is a cult vs. town game.

I doubt Reck would hand the town a whole bunch of guns and say "LAWL YOU CAN'T SHOOT ANY CULT."

To help balance things for a cult that started out with likely 1 member (Lich King)? Yes, I could see the mod doing that. This would also need to put the Lich King as an unkillable role, or otherwise a role that's not able to be fully rolecopped. Don't forget that Lich King is unable to recruit trolls and, I'm guessing, the remaining mason(s).

[Gollum]

So I vig Vezo tonight right?

If you would, please. Unless I inform the mod otherwise, Katsuki is scheduled for death come daybreak tomorrow. AGar is another vig so that will leave him to kill whoever.

[Gollum]

That's not scumhunting... holy shit, what night did you get recruited, GI?

I'm not and CANNOT confirm if there was 1 cult at start. I said there was likely 1 cultist. Or, alternatively, there could have been Lich King and his 2nd in command, Kel'Thuzad. I've been studying the WoW wiki like a motherfucker.

But yes, GI. All these "power roles" versus a small cult to start, no mafia. Have you noticed there are no kill-immune townies? That's because the mod balanced it so that the town kills each other to limit the difficulty the small cult would have with winning. The town has to use doctors/docs for protection. See, that's another thing. Reckamonic will mindfuck anyone who tries to outguess them over things like doctor/doc being in different role PMs, he/she/they being used, and other little quips they put in PMs.

Dude, no one dying is NOT nothing happened. No one dying is like... nothing MUCH happened.

Okay Krazy is pretty obv mafia, and we can't even bother to lynch him because we need to cult hunt.

This actually hurts me.

This was your first post of the game. How did you have time NOT to see you replaced sathoris, yet you have enough time to apparently call him obvmafia for claiming a NK, being PGO-like, etc.?

http://www.wowwiki.com/Burning_Legion#Races

None of those races are what we are allowed to pick. This is what we're up against, as confirmed in the latest write up:

http://www.wowwiki.com/Scourge
http://www.wowwiki.com/Lich_King

And possibly the 2nd cultist that started the game with the Lich King:

http://www.wowwiki.com/Kel%27Thuzad

If Tragedy is cleared by AGar, I say we go back to lynching vezok. GI seems to be trying to get himself lynched ala his jester = culted bullshit in an effort to save vezok... I actually wouldn't be surprised if vezok is THAT important to the cult that GI would distract everyone in this manner.

But anyway, with my current line of thinking there's no mafia, I'd say Krazy is clear due to being Troll. My other head will have to form his own opinion of the matter.

[Gollum]

Think about this for a moment: Horde and Alliance fight each other in the game, correct? If there's a mafia here, would it make sense to mix Horde and Alliance types and pit them against the "townies"? I see Horde and Alliance being put together if they are FORCED to, ala a cult.

That's the mindfuck. Everyone comes in, "yo I'm Alliance and he claimed red Horde so fuck em, lets get em!" But the REAL enemy is this Scourge bullshit.

[Gollum]

And if anyone wants to accuse Trolls as auto-mafia for not being convertable types... lolololol no.

[Gollum]

You'll never take me or my buddies iPie and Krazy down. Grrr.

Faster, AGar, faster.

[Gollum]

N1: I targeted Baby Spice
N3: I targeted you

So tonight I have to either make sure you don't die, or let it happen. I like that role for town, actually.

Hey Gollum, if no one asked to be Burning Legion, who asked to be Arthas or Kel-Thuzad? WHO?

THAT'S RIGHT NO ONE

FTR, Lich King and Kel' are former HUMANS and also shared the same classes that we were able to pick during signups. Durrrrrr

Mod can cult cult mafia?

I think we lost all the mafia to cult.

Dude, right here.

Scumclaim.

Yet in post 1760 you list OTHER REASONS FOR CALLING HIM MAFIA > CULT WHAT THE

[Gollum]

After the way Krazy tunneled on me(?), no. We're not together...
But still, you bring up all these points against Krazy, and STILL didn't know who the hell you were replacing.

[Gollum]

Anyway, this wagon is weak, and all y'all are weak for taking the obv bait. Vig is off cooldown tonight, and we're going to fucking lynch a fucking obv recruit?

And you also apparently know Chrono's "cooldown" ended, so he's able to kill tonight. Tsk tsk.

- Lynch Chesskid (fortunately he doesn't appear to be in this)

WAIT

I FOUND THE CULT LEADER

ITS THE LICH KING

VOTE: ARTHAS

WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU ANYWAY?

Why would you THINK he was anyone other than an original member named Arthas? This implies you knew that the account was more than simply someone who joined MS March 1st. And since you're apparently checking people's isos, you should have seen chesskid's name pop up when he posted out of the hydra.

If I get recruited tomorrow night I'll just Jester it up in the thread until you have to lynch me - it's not playing against my win condition, because cult gets another recruit to replace me, and I don't have to live on as a new alignment.

See.. breadcrumbing already lol.. I'll be damned if vezok is LK or the 2nd-in-command and you're hoping to buy them some time.

[Gollum]

YEAH I WANTED TO FIGURE OUT CHRONO'S ABILITIES SO I BOTHERED TO CHECK HIS ISO:
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p2937993
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p2937639

LOLOLOLLOLOLOL JESUS DUDE YOURE SO OBVIOUS. CHRONO POSTED THOSE TWO THAT YOU LINKED

AFTER

YOU WERE USING THE WORD "VIG COOLDOWN"

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p2937403

You said this at 12:20 PM EST... Chrono apparently gave you reason to iso him FOUR HOURS LATER LOLOLOLOLOLO

SLIP MUCH??? I THINK YOU DO HOMEBOY

[Gollum]

We would like a list of your night actions, Chono.

[Gollum]

Is Gollum another hydra? Or who is Nero?

Yes. Nero Cain + Kise.

Dear Gollum,

We are disappointed that Substrike rather hide in his QT then find bad scummers with us.

vote:substrike

Unvote; Vote: inHim

Until/unless there's some clarification from others.

-What made you drop your vote from Substrike?

It was pointed out to you that we are diffrent heads and yet you still try to use that as a valid means to put pressure.

The horseshit is strong with this one.

[Gollum]

Okay Krazy is pretty obv mafia, and we can't even bother to lynch him because we need to cult hunt.

[Gollum]

(k, you can delete the Kise-posts)

Sorry, but I will quote our role PM later as an insurance policy to make sure no one hammers. Stall the lynch for a bit, guys, because Katsuki forgot to mention an important detail IF our delayed kill successfully touched her...... KATSUKI, did the mod notify you of being hit/poisoned/targeted/WIFOM?

ALSO

We will need to coordinate these kills due to gender-based mechanics. Vezok has a female character, so AGar would not be able to kill him. I was also curious to know who IHSIB/RayFrost may have redirected last night.

[Gollum]

And Kise, Take the kill off Katsuki. Naow. Or I might have to avenge the Cupcake over Your dead body, if you know what I mean.

Why should Kat live?

[Gollum]

No one.

I tracked him, he did nothing.

YOU tracked him or Sathoris? And if you tracked him, why?

@Sub: Tragedy is still scum, yes. I need to be sure Katsuki isn't immune to kills so it's important to see what the mod told her, if anything, when she was targeted last night.

[Gollum]

Meh.. I just don't get why you picked RayFrost of all people when he was replacing in.. help me understand, basically.

[Gollum]

@Sub: Tragedy is still scum, yes. I need to be sure Katsuki isn't immune to kills so it's important to see what the mod told her, if anything, when she was targeted last night.

To follow up on this, and in line with Tragedy being kill-immune, I would make the connection that Katsuki is scum for the reasons. She keeps promising to read the game but she's going all out in my mini theme for weeks now, so that's initially why I decided she may be worth killing. Since she's promising to post by TODAY, I would like her to tell me what kind of flavor the mod sent her to inform her. Baby Spice didn't say anything, but she really didn't have time to.

@Grey: Have you played with RF before - is that another reason you may have chosen him?

[Gollum]

I picked a name off the player list.

I didn't even know if I was gonna be vigged or not, hell if I'm reading this monster when I don't even know if I'm surviving

What did the mod pm say?

[Gollum]

And Kise, Take the kill off Katsuki. Naow. Or I might have to avenge the Cupcake over Your dead body, if you know what I mean.

Why should Kat live?

It's simple. Katsuki claimed Cult-blocker. Our best chance for a town win is to keep said role alive. Therefore, if you're town, leaving Katsuki alive is playing to your WC. If Katsuki dies to your delayed kill, you die too. If you're town, that's not playing to your WC. If you're cult, then your death doesn't help your WC. (unless ofc Vezo, my alt target, happens to be CR)

Sure but thats only if you believe her. Claimed role=/=confirmed role.

But lets be honest. Kat is

lurking quite horribly

IGNORING THIS GAME WHILE PLAYING IN OTHERS

AND

she's not scum hunting. Town needs to scum hunt, cult and mafia don't need to scum hunt.

[Gollum]

She was posting more in another large theme, [REDACTED] and flipped town. I assume when she's town, she doesn't lurk like she does here. I also have every right to question V/LA for personal reasons.

http://www.mafiascum.net/archive/viewto ... 2#p1896372

Look at that scumbag bastard's 2nd clarification.

1) Yeah Kise, I wasn't really telling the truth with me being away. In fact I was around the comp almost all the time, but I decided to go silent not only here, but also in all other games to make it believable. Though I probably won't do it in the future, as it gave me some problem in other games, where I'm not a scum

I don't give a shit about V/LA issues. Just another reason to lurk for scum. I fell for that before, GI, and I NEVER plan to fall for it again... NEVER again.

Also, think about this... tracker, watcher, horde cop, alliance cop, redirector, redirect-immune, roleblocker, roleblock-immune, vig(s), hider, scrambler (wtf), recruitment blocker... town-on-town balance. There ARE NO MAFIA, just like there's no illuminati...

-Signed,
Illuminati

However, if you think some of the claimed roles aren't town and in fact counter-balance other roles, feel free to speculate who's on the scum's side and who's more fitting for town.

[Gollum]

1st clarification***

>.>

[Gollum]

"Only town can be recruited because ululluullulolluloulollolo its only town n cult"

I just want to be sure Kat is clean. Is it a good idea for Arthas to RB vezok in case he can still lightning rod?

[Gollum]

RayFrost might be cult, with you.. made no sense for you to target him and clear him as recruiter when you haven't even played games with him.

[Gollum]

So this implies you targeted

RayFrost

....

[Gollum]

Nobody died!

It is now Day 4! With 15 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch!

Rayfrost replaces InHimshallibe, effective now!

Been waiting AAAAAAALL FUGGIN NIGHT - AND YOU KNOW WEVE BEEN ON MS FOR THE PAST 22 HOURS STRAIGHT - RAY FROST WAS NOT A SELECTABLE PLAYER TIL DAYBREAK


CAUGHTCAUGHTCUAGHTYESYESYEYS

[Gollum]

Noooooooooooope you cant deny me this

Rayfrost wadnt selectable til daybreak

[Gollum]

RayFrost might be cult, with you.. made no sense for you to target him and clear him as recruiter when you haven't even played games with him.

First:
1 completed, 1 ongoing

If you targeted inHim, you would said as much at this part to emphasis that your history with RF is irrelevant when he wasn't around at the time you were able to target someone.

So this implies you targeted

RayFrost

....

Pedit: are you illiterate?

[Gollum]

Also, Mod hasn't sent me what my old self was doing, so I have no idea what actions I've taken,

but last night clears inhimshallibe of being cult recruiter.

...................



@AGar: Like I said, when Katsuki reveals what happened to her last night, I'll proceed to put Tragedy away.

[Gollum]

@Tragedy: Why did you use your power on AKR?

If he were to be coming back and say "I can sense magic" or some sort, then I can assume he can really tell if I really targeted him.
If not, well, I don't know.

Waitwaitwait.. now when the FUCK did AKR reveal he could sense magic, because I'm not seeing it in his iso?

Cult:
RECRUITER - Tragedy
Cultists - Bunnylover (OMG YOU DUMB RECRUITER NICE CLAIM)
- VezokPiraka (YEAH)

That look about right to everyone else?

+AKR... and yeayeayea, I was wrong about you. Now how about we finally ask the million dollar question

RECKAMOD: IS THERE A MAFIA IN THIS GAME?

[Gollum]

GI is very much scum. Or he just being extremely stupid.

[Gollum]

I thought you were going to bed..

I think he's actually town since his role would match up with the Strongman Watcher. It's the Worgen Shadow Priest I'm more worried about. I guess if there's a mafia, it'd be the Forsaken group. The wiki makes it sound like they have it out for Lich King.

[Gollum]

AGar... don't bother a pimp when he's working.

[Gollum]

Vig vezok. He's female, so AGar wouldn't be able to deal with him. And AGar won't be shooting me tonight.... except in Halo, maybe.

[Gollum]

Thank you, Kat.
Shush, Sub.

Welcome to World of Warcraft Mafia,

Gollum

. You are a

Male Worgen

.

Class: Assassination Rogue

Affiliation: Alliance

You are a

Unidentifiable Progressive Voteblocker Vigilante

. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Twin Form

- Since you shapeshift, you cannot be pegged by investigations, or not very precisely. Instead of a normal result, trackers and watchers will get “your target visited a worgen” and “A worgen visited your target” (or a variation on that).

Active Abilities:

Mutilate

- Each night you may target someone with Mutilate. They will lose their vote for the next day. If you target a player with Mutilate twice in a row, they will die.

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per day.

Win Condition (For the Alliance!):

You win when all threats have been eliminated and the land of Azeroth is safe once again.

Please confirm via return PM.

The topic is here: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 73&start=0

Vote: Tragedy

And that have better been fucking worth it, Sub, because I've been going ham on a Troll fakeclaim so I wouldn't get culted.

[Gollum]

N1: I targeted Baby Spice
N3: I targeted you

And N2: NERO targeted Benmage.

[Gollum]

I lost my vote over night but it is nice to see reactions like that.

I got nothing saying anything about dying... but apparently someone felt the need to make me useless for the day.

We're not poisoners, or unpoisoners. If we vote-block a player twice in a row, they die. Katsuki checks out though so she lives. I was thinking she was kill-immune like Tragedy so that's why I wanted to be sure.

Whether we're trusted or not, here's an ideal plan:
Arthas: blocks vezok to prevent lightning rod
Chrono: vigs vezok
AGar: Kill us if it makes you sleep at night

I will suggest to Nero that we don't submit anything at all to ensure our mutilate isn't magically redirected to Kats. Looking at the list of claims, I don't see how a mafia is possible to exist. I'm good with Ben's

town X cult

theory. PoE points to BL and Exilon as the next scum.

Vezok claimed to have been vote-blocked.

That was all Chrono's doing. I think we're ready for a hammer.... Exi?

[Gollum]

1 more vote to hammer actually. Is it important that Exi and BL claim now as opposed to tomorrow, or in death? I may have stalled things but I was just as thirsty for this lynch as the rest.

[Gollum]

GreyICE, wanna track RayFrost

[Gollum]

Substrike: Stop feeding the troll.

[Gollum]

Tonight's gonna be a clusterfuck, isn't it..?

Ray, as long as your action doesn't interfere with what's planned for vezok, I'd say go for it. You should also consider whether you know the ability of whoever you plan to target. Of course you shouldn't give away who you're targeting right now though.

So are we now waiting on Exi and BL to claim?

[Gollum]

GODDAMMIT IPIE I WANTED THAT HAMMER

rageragerageragerage

you'll hear about this in our QT

you'll hear about this in our QT

[Gollum]

no need to rag, dudette.

[Gollum]

NERO READ THE FRIKKIN THREAD

[Gollum]

Still no reason for Ipie to get upset like that.

[Gollum]

Fuck's the flip? Could've sworn the mod was logged in earlier. Throw a couple more votes on Trag in case she has a higher threshold.