Metropolis: Revisited [Game Over]

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/comfirnanilla

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Also, can we know ReaperCharlie's alignment? You forgot to mention it.

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This game has run away from me fast... Will read on Thursday.

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Reads so far...

TOWN

DGB
Friend
Kise
Exe
Magua
LLD

MEH

Toog
KK
bunny

SHADY

AGar
MagnaofI
Wraith

SCUM AS ALWAYS

CKD

SCUM

Hrezs
Untrod Tripod

NO COMMENT

ABR

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DGB, may I ask why the town read on Exe?

It was some early aggression, if memory serves.

A good point is being made reminding everyone of multiscum - KK's scumhunting is not necessarily a town tell.

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1) Voting Wraith doesn't have anything to do with playstyle choice, I interpreted it as FEAR.

Oh wait - did you say, FEAR?

Someone is emitting fear pheromones? I missed that. Where?

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Cancel my V/LA.

I thought I would be without internet, but I've got some.

This is very townie.

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DGB, whenever you are ready to deliver a vote...

I'm procrastinating reading the rules... I hate reading rules... I'd appreciate at tl;dr.

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We /strike instead of vote. We can't take back strikes (unstrike). When 60% of the players have striked a player, he or she dies. We are now pseudo-voting so that once someone's reached a majority of votes, we mass-strike.

Thanks. Count me in on Hresz.

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I think CKD is town... OMG... if true, this is a lifetime opportunity!

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Have you read the rules and the thread?

No, rules are things other people read and explain to me is super-condensed form.

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Vote: Kublai Khan

All of his significant play thus far has been bad tunneling on Bunnylover and defending.
Bad tunneling because his primary case, found in ISO #5, is completely and totally terrible.

Meh. Tunneling isn't a tell of anything.

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Then have you read my description in reply to you...? Have you read the game?

Yes, and yes! The game, I'm definitely reading.

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OMG OMG camn

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DGB, anything besides fluff on your mind?

Marshmallows
Shipping peanuts
Lint
Gummy bears

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Hrezs: Claim.

Don't claim. Wait for everyone to have posted content.

Wut

At least provide a list of those that need to have posted "content" so that it's close-ended, and so that the Hresz wagon doesn't fritter away while we twiddle our thumbs waiting.

Camn is right, what this game needs is carnage.

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Sure.

Strike: DGB

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I decided I'm never going to waste another game headbutting with ABR. I am town.

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I'm vanilla.

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Please kill me swiftly so that ABR realizes he's wrong without unnecessary delays.

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Is ABR town?

I haven't a clue and I don't care.

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When has suicide ever helped the other people of the same alignment? Seriously.

My team is large, and I am vanilla. My death saves a power role from claiming and possibly dying.

Anyway, I get NK'd early and since I don't have a night action, it makes no difference if I'm lynched early, or NK'd early.

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Eight more plz

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Vote: DGB

. Will probably be a strike once I finish reading.

Stop wasting time, do it.

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I'm gathering data from this DGB-wagon.

You're the only thing I'll miss about this game.

Just do the strike, camn. I'm sure you'll know exactly how to interpret my wagon.

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Oh, just quit it with the preaching.

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What is the matter?

You made a smash-up case, with urls to all kinds of meta-scum-this, meta-town-that, blah blah blah, but I can't defend myself against meta arguments. No one can, really.

And since I'm just vanilla, I'm not hugely motivated to fight you. I have had run ins with you before and they were memorably unpleasant. I'm not going through this again. It's an ugly spectacle to watch, too.

You can lynch me, and gather information from my lynch.

It's the best thing for the town, and the scum doesn't get much.

But lynch me and lynch me quickly, there is no point dragging this on, I will not defend myself.

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I...when someone legitimately attacks you, you get upset.

I'm not upset, I accept my lynch as a desirable outcome.

You disappoint me.

I am not seeking your good opinion, Sir.

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I don't understand your reaction, ABR.

Your case clearly shows I'm scum, why are you even discussing with me?

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Toogie, please strike me in your next post.

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Oh, yeah. Dammit. You'd be a sweetheart if you helped me persuade others.

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for her incredibly charismatic ability to lead a wagon

to its swift conclusion with a honeyed voice and sense of humor unique to her own.[/color][/b]

Please let's get back on the topic of my lynch.

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I think it's a dumb idea. But DGB wants it...so...

/strike: DrippingGoofball

Hello opportunistic scum.

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Ah, to hell with it. If she wants to die, then she can pay the price.

Strike: DrippingGoofball

Moar opportunistic scum.

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Strike: DGB

And moar...

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Strike: DrippingGoofball

Good play, Albert.

Maybe opportunistic scum.

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I don't like this. In a game where strikes are unrevokable, claiming early and strongly (DrippingGoofball put herself at L-12) is the only way for scum to put the brakes on their own lynch.

/strike: DrippingGoofball

Also a potential opportunistic scum. I claimed vanilla, hardly putting "brakes" on my lynch. You don't have to believe me, but I didn't even thing of that when I claimed vanilla. Especially since I struck myself, your argument makes no sense whatsoever.

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Camm- why were you against lynching moi? In your summary you listed that you got a scumping from him. Same thing about ckd

You forgot to strike me, strike me now.

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LLD... whatever you may think of alignment, you must strike me and I must die.

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pre-self strike DBG was completely unmemorable to me. The self strike was super scummy. I've seen towny self voting, but this didn't have that same feel.

What are the votals at?

It doesn't matter, you must strike me for us to have a lynch. Just do it, scum. What do you care the totals?

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If we're both town, boo for us. You've wasted our time.

No. I'm ensuring a lynch on a vanilla townie. It's not like I'm a rare bird.

If one of us is town and the other one is scum or we're opposing scum, which one of us is which is irrelevant. Yay for me.

That's how we know you're scum.

If we're scumbuddies, then it makes sense for me to try to get town points by taking out a liability to our team.

Maybe, but I wouldn't self-strike if I had buddies that were counting on my performance. As town, I'm much more dispensible.

You remember how I lost Cyclic. As long as the wagon consideration was off me, I pushed it, but once I was the center of attention I quietly succumbed. I don't see much difference.

As you will see after my flip, you and I are very different.

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If you get less than 60%, you just get hospitalized, and we go into tomorrow with just night death analysis.

At this point, the lynch for today will be near impossible to analyze

due to DGB self-striking and opening the door for anyone to strike without recourse.

It sounds like

all your buddies

are on my strikawagon, haha.

I don't know what the hospital business is anyway. Just kill me.

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Five more are needed.

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OK, Toogie is town.

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Oh wait, no, he's saying for townie points. Nevermind.

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The first part is "lololol i hate playing mafia with n00bs looooook at me self hammer, I'm soooo town." Which is anti-town as hell, but not necessarily scummy (in fact, it could be argued its townie). The second part, though, is an extremely sneaky suggestion that we let DGB live. The seed that DGB will be nightkilled, and so thus we don't have to deal with it. E.g., we should NOT lynch DGB. These two combined create an extremely manipulative presentation that gives rise to massive cognitive dissonance - we are TOLD DGB wants to self vote, but then told we don't want to lynch DGB.

Scumcity.

Vote: DGB

. Will probably be a strike once I finish reading.

Do you feel your strike was premature, given the persistence of my campaign to be today's lynch?

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When 40%+ of players strike someone, it will cause them to be sent to the hospital tent at Night, and they will not be able to use any specialized role actions they may possess...

I see now. Well I'm vanilla, so let's do this all the way.

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DGB is a SK.

Wrong, again.

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I want everyone who struck me, and will strike me in the future, to make a pronouncement on my alignment.

In other words, do you

really

think I'm scum, now?

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....at the risk of looking scummy, I'll hold off on any analysis my lazy ass was gonna do.

/strike: DrippingGoofball

Player concerned about looking scummy.

Player has excuse to lurk.

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I'm thinking that DGB is

town

scum

, and

being very clever

is trying very hard to get downgraded to a roleblock.

Fixed that to reflect my view. I like how she's simultaneously self-lynching yet calling her entire wagon scummy. Trying to bully people off the lynch.

Plus she edited out of her reply to me a charge she couldn't answer.

You can't possibly hold this opinion if you're town, there is ample evidence that you're wrong.

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...trying to see who could have done what at night... And we are going to NEED to do that!

I hope you're not considering just sending

me

to the hospital, I'm vanilla, it's a waste of time. I'll be at my most useful in the form of a corpse.

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Seriously guys, if you don't hang KageLord with a very rough rope, I will consider my memory to be defiled. It will be like speaking ill of the dead.

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Also, it does appear like Kublai Khan is eager to justify himself, and he's quite bitter and spiteful at the prospect that I might survive.

Since the chances of my survival are ZERO, his bitterness and spitefulness are completely irrational, and quite likely, the result of scum disappointed with a possible delay going into night. I know the feeling. I've had it before.

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What the heck dude just strike.

I agree with the urge to strike, but you do know I'm town by now, right? Be honest, now.

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There's also KK & KageLord.

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Well, looks like DGB has aided in her own lynch...a bit odd there.
I can actually see the insano town motivation for it, but it hardly matters, since she's still probably scum AND the alternative is a no-lynch at this point.
I'm definitely thinking DGB-scum for the whole self-strike and the lack of any real contribution, but if there's

any

player who would pull this as town, it's DGB.

Anyways, not supporting a no lynch D1 in any universe.

Strike: DrippingGoofball

In other news, CKD is still scum. Friend's tone on joining the DGB wagon reads scummy as well. I'd say the first few people on the DGB lynch are town though, including Nacho.

Exe, your post is odd.

"I can actually see the insano town motivation for it" >>>

DGB town

"since she's still probably scum" >>>

DGB scum

"I'm definitely thinking DGB-scum for the whole self-strike and the lack of any real contribution" >>>

DGB scum

"but if there's

any

player who would pull this as town, it's DGB." >>>

DGB town

"Friend's tone on joining the DGB wagon reads scummy as well" >>>

people joining DGB wagon are opportunistic

>>>

DGB town

'Anyways, not supporting a no lynch D1 in any universe." >>>

DGB town

, lynch anyway

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Man, oh, man. I hold off on striking Hrezs to get a claim out of him, get told by ABR that he shouldn't claim until everyone's posted content...THAT SAME PAGE Nacho comes in and strikes DGB and...nothing? Huge ol' wagon out of nowhere?

Indeed, the above ought to give everyone pause.

We were ordered to hold off on Hresz. For what reason? There was no reason, other than random browbeating from ABR.

After everyone had pretty much agreed that Hresz was the consensus strike out, there comes my wagon.

And now she's at 10. That's past the point of no return. Sigh.

Really? I think it's like, 13 or something.

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FTR, I'm thinking Toogie is town again.

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I am at thirteen strikes.

Two more.

BTW, ABR, you suck at reading me and your cases are rubbish. I hope you're scum saving Hresz' godfatherly keister.

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And for posterity, this game has made me very sad.

There is no defending oneself again meta, and I knew that, worthless as it was, everyone would be blinded by ABR's "case," which had more links than arguments.

The scum should note that making such worthless cases with a lot of links that no one follows (I sure didn't, nor do I bother with in-game youtube links) will result on immediate and swift wagons, so if you carry on with this strategy, you have the win wrapped up.

I am a little bored with getting NK'd by Day 3, so unless something jumps at me I lay low so that I can at least do a wagon analysis in early mid-game.

Anyway, two more strikes and I'm gone.

I didn't realize there was so much scum and so few townies in this game, so calling half my wagon scum isn't that much of a stretch.

I find Plum's strike very bad, too. Just saying.

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Magua, feel free to grill the players that continued with the strike-fest, after some players suggested some plan involving the hospital.

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Meh, a bit of tag malfunction in the DGB quote but I'd say it still makes sense.

Pffffffffffffft nice try, scum, but I doubt anyone will believe your salad.

I think it's pretty obv-in-your-face that I'm town by now, so your insistence on justifying yourself will be noted by those in the mood to avenge my death.

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DGB

– If you actually are VT you completely wasted your slot acting all disinterested and useless. If you were trying to draw a Nightkill

I'm trying to AVOID the NK, it gets boring after a while, never seeing anything close to end game. I spend most of my games in dead QTs.

If you hate ABR so much you should have replaced out.

I don't - but most games with ABR end up with a fight to the death between the two of us, which is really disrespectful of the other players wanting a game without annoying drama. The last one I was in with ABR didn't happen that way, but I was scum, and I think he was, too, if memory serves. All other games ended up with retarded duels, mostly both of us being town.

Especially when you self-struck with only two strikes on you.

Maybe, but I'm sorry to say, I just didn't want to get into it with ABR, and I've said it many times, there is no defense against a case based on solely on meta. So when I saw ABR + metacase I just folded my tent.

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I know... your days are numbered my dear Magna...

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Here's to hoping the Grim Reaper has a place in his cold, dark heart for Exe... and he's going to come for him soon.

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Your desire to not-die contradicts your role of VT. AND your self-strike. Your story doesn't add up, and the simplest explanation is that you are scum.

Noooooooo, it's YOUR story that doesn't add up.

You speak of my "desire to not-die" - urgh, where do you see that? I've been campaigning for my death quite relentlessly.

It is very consistent with the self-strike.

And no amount of posturing will change my mind.

Faking a hard line detected.

A flip is what will prove who is right at this point in time, anything else could easily be your attempt as sewing confusion shortly before your death.

But you contradict yourself again. You should realize that you will know soon enough that I was not "sewing" or rather "sowing" confusion because I'm town, so the second half of your sentence has nothing at all to do with the first. They are oddly disconnected.

The parts regarding the towniness are simply my qualification that your actions as a whole are rather ridiculous, and as you are DGB, I will not be surprised (only disappointed) if you happen to flip Town.

A-HA!!!!

Now I'm town again, hehehehehe.

However, pretending that you are more likely town than scum simply on the basis that you're a crazy person? That'd be completely illogical.

Ugh? Where is that crazy person bizniss coming from?

Exe, you are tripping on your own scummy shoelaces. I recommend to bottle it up before your team has to bus your hard for being a huge liability.

Exe, you 10-ton scumbag, you.

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You simply could have called ABR's case what it was - a selective meta attack - and ignored it. But instead you threw in the Towel immediately and assured you were not a Night 1 kill victim simply by being beaten to death.

You underestimate how much I don't want to get into another pissy fight with ABR. I'm too old for that.

I think people ARE blinded by series of classified link clusters, they're very impressed by the form, and they trust it without examining the details. I doubt anyone actually read ABR's case, including the fast-approving Nachommamma, guilty #1 of the charge of being blinded by links.

I had a hunch that people wouldn't listen to counter-arguments and I didn't want to spend the massive amounts of time required.

I'm spending time now, but I know I'll be done, soon.

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AND, funny little tidbit I just realized:

However, pretending that you are more likely town than scum simply on the basis that you're a crazy person? That'd be completely illogical.

Believing you are town right now would be based ENTIRELY on meta...which is exactly what you felt shouldn't be used as the basis of an argument.

Hence, logic points to DGB-scum.

You make exactly ZERO sense whatsoever. Lay off the crack. It's not doing you any good.

The only thing I can answer because it's the only tidbit in the quote that doesn't fry my brain with short-circuits is: "

Believing you are town right now would be based ENTIRELY on meta...

" - I can say is complete hogwash, where do I say you should believe I'm town based on meta??? It's simply based on human behavior and normal reactions you'd expect.

Don't post again until you sobered up.

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Anyhoo, just one more strike needed, I hope the town learned a lesson, and that the wagon left enough information. If we're so few townies, though, that one lynch will probably be quite crippling. If it's any consolation, I'll return to my old policy of not playing with ABR, so it shouldn't happen again.

I'm off to shop for a BD present for my mother and then to see a movie. I'll probably be dead by the time I return, so sayonara.

Oh, and

I am

town, it's not just last minute theatrics. But you'll have confirmation soon enough.

Don't forget to kill Exe, ABR, Nacho, KK, Kagelord, BabySpice, and their merry bands of scumbags.

Good luck.

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I hate you Magua, you are now the Night 0 corpse of any future game I mod.

If you hadn't cheated all game with invisible ink posting, I totally would have been on to you.

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