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He's a village idiot who constantly resorts to ad hom attacks and utter stupidity, not to mention obnoxious posting habits like picspam or trying to do caps-lock-rage without a reason or purpose. Furthermore, vezok has softclaimed daycop with a guilty on C-Worl, which gives us more of a reason to lynch him.green shirt thursdays-
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popsofctown wrote:unvote, vote xReckonerx
You're asking me questions we both know the answer to. I'm not going to answer it. You seem obsessed with engaging this town in a conversation about things that don't need to be talked about. Even when reprimanded.
Did Daddy McPopsofctown reprimand me?
Oh noes! I'll go sit in the corner and think about what I've done wrong now.
You're voting me for "rolefishing", which isn't anti-town in this case because: 1) vezok had already claimed, and 2) the "mini game" is mentioned in the rules and likely isn't pro-town, therefore it's not anti-town to try and sniff it out.green shirt thursdays-
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@C-WORL:
1) I never pushed for a full claim from vezok, but thanks for putting words in my mouth, scum.
2) I thought he was daycop because he voted you and then CLAIMED in his first post, why else would he do that?
3) See #2 - he voted you, then claimed, which usually implies a guilty.
4) The way the rules are worded makes it seems like Town vs. Scum with a side game separate from everything else, aka Third Party. If these third partiers are not a threat to the town, they have no reason not to make themselves known then go about their business. That would clear X number of people from being a threat to the town and thus we could go on and have many less players to hunt through.green shirt thursdays-
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Panzerjager wrote:I really am not a fan of Policy lynches, it takes away important infomation from the town
I'll take Lowell's reprimand of trying something "stupid"
unvote, Vote:Reck
He's definently pushing this Daycop thing and certainly seems the most vocal on a policy lynch of Reck
Unless we get a full, serious claim from Vezok, I'm going to assume it was a RVS joke.
vezok told us to fucking discuss his cop claim, what do you not understand about that.green shirt thursdays-
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pappums rat wrote:First off, since RVS is apparently over, I think the jokes about being scum need to stop. At the best it is an unnecessary distraction from scumhunting, and at the worst it is anti-town.
Second, Vezok didnt claim he had a guilty on C-Worl, so people should stop acting like he said he did.
Third, I dont think there is any reason why we should distract ourselves with the game-within-the-game. It is for the people who recieved those PMs only, and it is detracting from actual scumhunting if we allow ourselves to get tied up with it.
Vote: Reck
He is putting words in Vezok's mouth and pushing a bad wagon for contradictory reasons (supposing Vezok has a guilty on C-Worl and policy).
Thanks for joining the easy wagon! I really appreciate it!
I may have misinterpreted vezok's post. My vote was on C-Worl before that IIRC. C-Worl is a surefire policy lynch for me - even moreso than chesskid3 or vezokpiraka. The only people I would policy lynch before him are drmyshottyizsik or CooLDoG. So yes, I will be perfectly content parking my damned vote on him for the time being.green shirt thursdays-
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Midnight's Sorrow wrote:bobsnox wrote:wow I forget to look for the game thread unless the mod links it in the PM ;_;
/confirm
Obviously I need some time to catch up...
Beware any links...
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Unvote: MPR
Vote: Reck
LOLSUP SCUM
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So then it's safe to assume the multivoter is somewhere in these people:
Reck
Moratorium
Hiraki
popsofctown
Though technically, it could've been any of the people who posted before that post.
EBWOP: I'm the easy lynch because I'm not a policy lynch, and I've done something people can misconstrue as "scummy" and pile on the votes without a second glance.green shirt thursdays-
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Hiraki wrote:Explaica #177 por favor Rex.
Sure.
He just showed up, didn't comment on anything directed at me, and put down a vote on me. The problem here is that without any words, he could backtrack ("Oh, that was for a reaction!") or he could just go with what other people were saying ("Yeah, I liked the cases against Reck so far").
Antifinity wrote:Nope. This one's pretty obvious if you think about it. For an attack like this to scale with the game it'd have to adjust with the number of players, or you'd be able to auto-lynch people eventually. It takes 16 votes to lynch, and the ninja attack adds (16/2) votes? Doesn't seem like a coincidence to me. The vote-reset was probably just to avoid an accidental hammer.
Logical.
Antifinity wrote:Oh, andvote: Hirakino one should be that certain, this early.
Elaborate, por favor.
Bunnylover wrote:I usually don't do PL, but I willing to make an exception.
Did you really just policy lynch this late in the game?
Also: what the fuck is with that flip? I guess they're a part of the mini game going on. "Dayattacking Hunter" sounds like some kind of modified dayvig; "Swordsmith Hunter" sounds like gunsmith but with swords instead of guns.
Midnight's Sorrow wrote:I'm confused...
Is anyone else confused?
... I am...
Expression of confusion is scummy.
Unless you're chesskid.
Antifinity wrote:I just checked, and "hunter" is an alias for "lyncher" according to the wiki, so I'm guessing they were part of that whole minigame thing going on in the background. Since GreyICE never posted, I suspect he failed to meet some objective in time (midnight?) and that was the cause of his death. Dramonic did post and it was a vote on C-Worl. My guess from that is C-Worl might be the lynch target of one or more participants in the mini-game.
Hmm, I could see this making sense… but you've spent two posts so far largely talking about just the minigame. How about some actual scumhunting?
Midnight's Sorrow wrote:*facepalm*
There's a counter on Vezok...
He's 7 now... he was 8 before…
Dear god, man.
oboe wrote:"Yeah they can use their QT for a dead topic until I'm able to make a proper one." -> Anti-town faction with only the two of them in it
Oooooh nice catch. So they were, in fact, third party. Meaning the speculation that they were a part of the minigame seems even more accurate now.
Antifinity wrote:Well, if the Paranoid Gun Owner can actually block attacks as well as counter attack, then yes, it would be fine if they outed themself, but that seems unlikely to me. Also, it is very useful that the attack value is updated to be half at any given moment, that makes it much less exploitable. What I'd like to know next is if the event was random, neutral aligned, scum aligned, or town aligned. It would be great of course, if we knew Vezo's alignment, but that is no confirmation either way. If the mini-game is lyncher based, then the ninja attack could be part of that as well...
If I'm right in assuming that this whole "hunter" thing is part of the minigame, then even if our goals are unrelated (yes, I'm implicitly claiming not-mini-aligned here) the mini-game does still effect the main game, in the form of vote manipulation and/or accidental kills. This means that information revealed about the mini could be useful to those of us involved in the game proper. If you have information on the mini, and any reason to be sympathetic to the town, share what you know.
This post strikes me as ten kinds of wrong. You've now spent EVERY post today speculating on the minigame and third-party-hunting instead of scumhunting. That, my friend, is a big no no, and you've now warranted my vote for the following:
- Using minigame speculation to try and clear C-Worl as a "lyncher target"
- Using minigame speculation to avoid actually scumhunting
- Knowing a disproportionate amount ofcorrectinformation about the minigame before it was ever announced or confirmed by the moderator
This leaves the following possibilities:
Antifinitiy is scum trying to use the minigame to avoid placing any real reads, or Antifinity is a part of the minigame and is now trying to blend in with the town due to some kind of snafu in the minigame itself.
Unvote;
Vote: Antifinity
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Lobster wrote:Standard town vs. mafia, but with a mini-game between other players as well. The town & mafia's roles do not interfere much with the "mini-gamers" and vice versa, therefore the town and mafia are balanced against each other during any event.
So what about this makes you think the minigame involves town or scum? It specifically states that town and scum will not be affected by the minigame.
Kdub wrote:I don't think he was trying to clear C-Worl. Lyncher targets are not always town-aligned. And what correct information did he reveal about the minigame that was subsequently confirmed by the mod?
He "hypothesized" that the 8 votes was actually an L/2 mechanic, and later the mod confirmed it as such when vezok's stickyvotes dropped to 7. Not to mention the rest of the speculation about the minigame - he seems to know something the rest of us don't.
Elsa von Spielburg wrote:As one who has never played with this person, meta sounds good enough for me. And doing a quick Iso of him finds someone who has yet to put together a coherent sentence.
So you've never played with chesskid, therefore DON'T KNOW HIS META, but meta is a good enough reason to vote him?
FoS: Elsa
DeathNote wrote:I am more inclined to believe they were some sort of lovers then a scum team.
Not seeing why the two are mutually exclusive.
I want more Antifinity votes.
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Lobster wrote:So what about this makes you think the minigame involves town or scum? It specifically states that town and scum will not be affected by the minigame.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
My original point was that you were wrong in assuming it DID involve scum/town.
DeityKabuto wrote:Shutup, don't interrupt my case. Try scumhunting, for once.
Tell me, who are your suspects?
You arrogant, ignorant fuckwad.
Tell me. In your month and a half stint on this site, what experience do you have with me that qualifies you to say "for once" at the end of that? Also, it is really fucking apparent that you're not reading the thread, as you'd see that I've been doing my share of scumhunting - something you've been completely devoid of… and no, I'm not telling you my suspects, especially since Ijustlisted my top two on the last fucking page.
Learn to read, you juvenile twat.
DeityKabuko wrote:I just caught a scum, get on his wagon, you don't need a reason for agreeing with me.
1.You claimed Day Cop in D1, only a scum would do that because a scum wouldn't have to worry about the "scumteam" night killing the Day Cop, because they are apart of that "scumteam".
2.You are so eager to lynch C-Worl when he hasn't down anything really "scummy" in that essence, you are basing your entire vote on policy lynch and meta. But you didn't see that doing this could make you scummy yourself.
THIS is scumhunting to you? You challenge me to scumhunt, RIGHT AFTER announcing that people don't need a reason (and therefore, don't need to scumhunt) in order to agree with you?
1. This has no logical basis whatsoever. He never claimed daycop (herpderp), that was an implication of his post which he shot down. Furthermore, if there ARE day roles, then proper balance indicates there are other day roles to counter those day roles. So this point is a fail.
2. Explain to me why the things people have pointed out that C-Worl has done as scummy so far aren't "scummy in that essence". PS, there are plenty of other people who have gone after C-Worl based on just policy & meta, so why is vezok ANY FUCKING DIFFERENT?
DeityKabuko wrote:*sigh*
You guys can go with your beliefs about vezok, but that will not remove my suspicions from him.
He did not mention anything about meta or policy lynch, but that is clearly his intention as how he forcefully told everyone to Vote C-Worl, and C-Worl's meta shows he is not a good player.
OH! Sonowother people scumhunting and bringing up why you are really really fucking wrong about your suspicions about vezokpiraka won't change your mind, huh? So you're not even going to respond to the myriad of people telling you how fucking wrong you are?
Also, while I agree that C-Worl is not a good player, you are in absolutely NO position to be making that judgment.
DeityKabuko wrote:Unvote
Fine, I'll take your word for it, but Vezok better not fuck up.
So Parabollocks responding to your case in a rational matter garners a response from you to the extent of "La la la la I'm not listening", but pappums rat just saying "Trust me you're wrong" somehow convinces you to back down?
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Since when was using a meta scumposting?pappums rat wrote:^ Scumposting.
Unvote
Vote: Elsa
I find his meta substantial, and not a bad reason for voting.
You aren't reading the goddamned thread, I just explained why Elsa is scummy the last page, and it's because Elsa says "I know nothing about his meta" and in the same breath says "His meta is good enough for me".
Dude, is English your first fucking language?DeityKabuto wrote:
Thank you, finally someone who reasons with me.JPSalazar wrote:Also, voting on meta is crap. #CaptainObvious
JP SALAZAR:I'd like you to read Antifinity's iso, then read my posts regarding him, and tell me your thoughts.
WOULD LYNCH IMMEDIATELY:
Antifinity
C-Worl
DeityKabuko
I'd gladly swap those last two around in any order, but Antifinity is my #1 choice.green shirt thursdays-
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The difference is that these votes wentdowninstead ofup, which means they're directly related to number needed to lynch. So far, it looks like L/2. When 30 were alive, it took 16 to lynch, and vezok had 8 votes (16/2). Now that 28 are alive, it takes 15 to lynch, and vezok has half of that rounded down (15/2).
PREVIEW EDIT: C-Worl was a policy lynch, but I became doubly aware of his scumminess after he started expressing confusion. In my experience, expression of confusion without willingness or exhibiting effort to solve that confusion is a scum tell.
It's like you're not even reading my posts and instead are just emptyquoting randomly. DK isn't scummy? Seriously. Read my analysis of his posts and tell me he isn't scummy.green shirt thursdays-
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JP, It's fairly simple, here.
Rather than hunting for scum, he has spent the entirety of the game hunting for third party/speculating on third party mechanics. This, in turn, allows him to neglect commenting on any actual pertinent issues, and he can basically actively lurk with setup speculation/third party hunting.
None of this is pro-town. It is, in fact, very anti-town. So he's either scum, or third party who is hunting for other third parties out there if we're to believe his HUNTERS ARE LYNCHERS thing is accurate. Kise actually mentioned something to me a LONG TIME AGO about a future game, now that I think about it, but I don't want to say it and get modkilled for discussing shit like that.green shirt thursdays-
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Antifinity wrote:As far as actual scum-hunting goes? xRECKONERx is my instinct-vote, because in the games I've played, people who post 'emotionally' are generally trying to cover up something. Sometimes it isn't anti-town though, so idk. I'm keeping my vote: Hiraki until he starts making sense (randomly jumping votes then tunneling C~worl on policy?) or until I see a strong case for someone else.
I'm your instinct vote based off bullshit AtE meta (seriously, read my fucking completed games, what the hell am I doing 'emotionally'?), then you turn around and IMMEDIATELY fence-sit on me, and then say that you're just gonna vote Hiraki because he's not making sense.
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Antifinity wrote:I'm not fence sitting on your lynch. I feel like lynching you, but that is just explaining why I'm not voting for you, I don't vote based on indefinite reads.
How is your read on me "indefinite"? Please use proper fucking English.
[quoe="Midnight's Sorrow"]The elsa and deity wagons smell greatly of easy mislynchs run by scum going for the easy kill.
Not buying them one bit.
I know it's hard with so many peeps, but pleased to try harder then that scum.
kthnksbai~
Vote: Moratorium
I can't rationalize how a Townie could possibly find something odd about that.[/quote]
Moratorium wrote:Can I just ask a question here...
Is this game just filled to the brim with terrible players?
Yes. Thank god Quilford replaced one of the morons.
The only players I respect or admire in any capacity in this game are:
Katsuki, KDub, dramonic, ooba, Hiraki, HellloooNewman, diddin, Panzerjager, GreyICE, JP, and Parabollocks.
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Antifinity wrote:Why are you so obsessed with not figuring out what is going on here? This is clearly not a normal game with normal rules, and playing it like it is will lead to serious problems for the town. In both SEM games I've been in, the mechanics have had a huge impact on how the game was played.
Because it's clearly stated in the rules that this is standard town vs. scum, with a mini-game. We know the hunter flips are involved in the mini-game somehow, and figuring out mechanics/setup speculation is just an excuse to not scumhunt.
Antifinity wrote:Am I lyncher target for you guys, or what? Why would you vote me if you haven't even caught up yet?
When did he say he hadn't caught up? In fact, he said he had some pretty definite ideas on who scum is, but would get a more substantial post up tomorrow. Nowhere in there does he state he isn't caught up.
DeityKabuko wrote:I'm confused on that part too, people are playing like assholes atm, nobody is scumhunting, their are the inactives, pretty fail shit going on here.
lol irony
Seriously, if there's a vig out there, put a bullet through his goddamn skull right now.
C-Worl wrote:Other Note: Reck told DK not to set up speculate when his questions about the minigame were versions of setup speculation. Of course Reck normally is very hypocritical so it's a null tell.
No. Not even close.
Parabollocks wrote:And now I see where the anti case is.
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C-Worl wrote:Bunnylover wrote:@C-World: Why bring up the fact that Reck did something hypocritical if its a null tell? What is the reasoning for that?
BC even if it's a null tell for me I'm pointing it out so that other people can make their own opinions on it.
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So I'm scum because my reasons for voting Antifinity are shit?
Tell me, in your own words, what my reasons for voting him are. Then tell me why they're shit. Then, on top of all of that, please tell me how someone who is listed at TOWN-ALIGNED would be "better off" if he didn't claim. Then tell me where this magic number of "40-60%" is coming from... and once you clear up all that arbitrary bullshit, maybe we can proceed.green shirt thursdays-
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xRECKONERx GD is my Best Man
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DK wrote:Is this an OMGUS I see?
I'm really trying to play with you like you have a single iota of intelligence. Don't make me regret it.
DK wrote:You voted Antifinity for setup speculation, right?
No.
DK wrote:You implied that he was a minigame role when he never stated that, that can't possibly be a scumtell or a good reason for a lynch.
If you ever actually fucking read what people write and had any sort of reading comprehension, you'd see that is not all of what I'm saying.
DK wrote:I am not saying that makes you scum,
So then why the fuck am I your top scum read? You're not saying I'm scum… you're just saying I'm your #1 scum read.
DK wrote:I am just saying, in games I've played where people flip scum
You mean every one of them?
DK wrote:it's when they've done something super scummy or their previous actions show it.
OH MY GEE GOLLY GOSH YOU'RE FUCKING BRILLIANT. WE NEED A MD ARTICLE ON THIS SHIT.
DK wrote:You can't make final judgements or final decisions for who's scum or not in D1 alone.
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You are officially blacklisted from my games after this one. You are one of the worst players I've ever encountered.green shirt thursdays-
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Moratorium wrote:False. Other alternatives have been divulged within this game. Yet your certainty remains.
No, they haven't. And if they have, then there's no logical basis for them.
Like I said -- a long time ago, Kise told me an idea he had for a game, and it didn't hit me until I started thinking about this mini-game here that this COULD be the same thing, or the same concept.green shirt thursdays-
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