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Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Sun May 29, 2011 7:23 am

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SUP YO?
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Post Post #34 (isolation #1) » Sun May 29, 2011 3:05 pm

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VOTE: DIDDIN


THIS IS A PRO PLAN
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Post Post #38 (isolation #2) » Sun May 29, 2011 3:09 pm

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UNVOTE
VOTE: C-WORL


Serious vote here, guys.
Do it now.
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Post Post #41 (isolation #3) » Sun May 29, 2011 3:10 pm

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LOLSUP KATS?
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Post Post #48 (isolation #4) » Sun May 29, 2011 3:15 pm

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Katsuki wrote:
xRECKONERx wrote:LOLSUP KATS?


SUP

YOU BETTER NOT BE SCUM

I PROMISE ON OUR EFRIENDSHIP I'M NOT
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Post Post #53 (isolation #5) » Sun May 29, 2011 3:27 pm

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No joke: just ride this C-Worl train to lynch town.
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Post Post #63 (isolation #6) » Sun May 29, 2011 4:24 pm

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What the fuck.
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Post Post #78 (isolation #7) » Sun May 29, 2011 5:14 pm

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One more pony pic and I swear to god I'll goatse the fuck out of this thread
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Post Post #82 (isolation #8) » Sun May 29, 2011 5:16 pm

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One more fucking picture and I'm done.
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Post Post #84 (isolation #9) » Sun May 29, 2011 5:20 pm

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Post Post #88 (isolation #10) » Sun May 29, 2011 5:24 pm

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Yes. diddin is town.
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Post Post #94 (isolation #11) » Sun May 29, 2011 6:17 pm

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Mod: requesting replacement due to picture spam
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Post Post #125 (isolation #12) » Mon May 30, 2011 6:30 am

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vezokpiraka wrote:
vote C-Worl


I have a super extra role.

I'm a cop again. Yeah discus.

This is AWESOME.

VOTE: C-Worl
if I had unvoted for whatever reason.
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Post Post #127 (isolation #13) » Mon May 30, 2011 6:36 am

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He's a village idiot who constantly resorts to ad hom attacks and utter stupidity, not to mention obnoxious posting habits like picspam or trying to do caps-lock-rage without a reason or purpose. Furthermore, vezok has softclaimed daycop with a guilty on C-Worl, which gives us more of a reason to lynch him.
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Post Post #129 (isolation #14) » Mon May 30, 2011 6:46 am

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DAY
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Post Post #135 (isolation #15) » Mon May 30, 2011 6:51 am

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vezokpiraka wrote:
vote C-Worl


I have a super extra role.

I'm a cop again. Yeah discus.

How is this not claiming a daycop?

also: anyone out there wanna shed any light on this "super secret minigame" going on?
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Post Post #141 (isolation #16) » Mon May 30, 2011 7:01 am

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popsofctown wrote:Two rolefishes in one post. IMPRESSIVE

Well, I'm not involved in this mini game (AFAIK), so I don't give a fuck about outting the game so town knows what we're dealing with in addition to scumhunting. And how am I rolefishing vezok? He straight up claimed.
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Post Post #147 (isolation #17) » Mon May 30, 2011 7:10 am

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popsofctown wrote:
unvote, vote xReckonerx

You're asking me questions we both know the answer to. I'm not going to answer it. You seem obsessed with engaging this town in a conversation about things that don't need to be talked about. Even when reprimanded.

:( Did Daddy McPopsofctown reprimand me?

Oh noes! I'll go sit in the corner and think about what I've done wrong now. :roll:

You're voting me for "rolefishing", which isn't anti-town in this case because: 1) vezok had already claimed, and 2) the "mini game" is mentioned in the rules and likely isn't pro-town, therefore it's not anti-town to try and sniff it out.
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Post Post #149 (isolation #18) » Mon May 30, 2011 7:13 am

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He never said daycop, but it seemed fairly obvious from his post. If I'm wrong, sue me.
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Post Post #152 (isolation #19) » Mon May 30, 2011 7:17 am

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@C-WORL:

1) I never pushed for a full claim from vezok, but thanks for putting words in my mouth, scum.
2) I thought he was daycop because he voted you and then CLAIMED in his first post, why else would he do that?
3) See #2 - he voted you, then claimed, which usually implies a guilty.
4) The way the rules are worded makes it seems like Town vs. Scum with a side game separate from everything else, aka Third Party. If these third partiers are not a threat to the town, they have no reason not to make themselves known then go about their business. That would clear X number of people from being a threat to the town and thus we could go on and have many less players to hunt through.
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Post Post #165 (isolation #20) » Mon May 30, 2011 9:31 am

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Panzerjager wrote:I really am not a fan of Policy lynches, it takes away important infomation from the town

I'll take Lowell's reprimand of trying something "stupid"

unvote, Vote:Reck


He's definently pushing this Daycop thing and certainly seems the most vocal on a policy lynch of Reck

Unless we get a full, serious claim from Vezok, I'm going to assume it was a RVS joke.

vezok told us to fucking discuss his cop claim, what do you not understand about that.
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Post Post #169 (isolation #21) » Mon May 30, 2011 9:59 am

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pappums rat wrote:First off, since RVS is apparently over, I think the jokes about being scum need to stop. At the best it is an unnecessary distraction from scumhunting, and at the worst it is anti-town.

Second, Vezok didnt claim he had a guilty on C-Worl, so people should stop acting like he said he did.

Third, I dont think there is any reason why we should distract ourselves with the game-within-the-game. It is for the people who recieved those PMs only, and it is detracting from actual scumhunting if we allow ourselves to get tied up with it.

Vote: Reck


He is putting words in Vezok's mouth and pushing a bad wagon for contradictory reasons (supposing Vezok has a guilty on C-Worl and policy).

Thanks for joining the easy wagon! I really appreciate it!

I may have misinterpreted vezok's post. My vote was on C-Worl before that IIRC. C-Worl is a surefire policy lynch for me - even moreso than chesskid3 or vezokpiraka. The only people I would policy lynch before him are drmyshottyizsik or CooLDoG. So yes, I will be perfectly content parking my damned vote on him for the time being.
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Post Post #173 (isolation #22) » Mon May 30, 2011 10:48 am

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WHOA octovoter.
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Post Post #177 (isolation #23) » Mon May 30, 2011 11:40 am

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Midnight's Sorrow wrote:
bobsnox wrote:wow I forget to look for the game thread unless the mod links it in the PM ;_;

/confirm

Obviously I need some time to catch up...


Beware any links...
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Unvote: MPR

Vote: Reck

LOLSUP SCUM

Unvote; Vote: MS
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Post Post #179 (isolation #24) » Mon May 30, 2011 11:47 am

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I think the point is that someone has 8 votes just sitting on them now.
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Post Post #183 (isolation #25) » Mon May 30, 2011 12:06 pm

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So then it's safe to assume the multivoter is somewhere in these people:

Reck
Moratorium
Hiraki
popsofctown

Though technically, it could've been any of the people who posted before that post.

EBWOP: I'm the easy lynch because I'm not a policy lynch, and I've done something people can misconstrue as "scummy" and pile on the votes without a second glance.
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Post Post #220 (isolation #26) » Tue May 31, 2011 12:31 am

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Hiraki wrote:Explaica #177 por favor Rex.

Sure.
He just showed up, didn't comment on anything directed at me, and put down a vote on me. The problem here is that without any words, he could backtrack ("Oh, that was for a reaction!") or he could just go with what other people were saying ("Yeah, I liked the cases against Reck so far").

Antifinity wrote:Nope. This one's pretty obvious if you think about it. For an attack like this to scale with the game it'd have to adjust with the number of players, or you'd be able to auto-lynch people eventually. It takes 16 votes to lynch, and the ninja attack adds (16/2) votes? Doesn't seem like a coincidence to me. The vote-reset was probably just to avoid an accidental hammer.

Logical.

Antifinity wrote:Oh, and
vote: Hiraki
no one should be that certain, this early.

Elaborate, por favor.

Bunnylover wrote:I usually don't do PL, but I willing to make an exception.

Did you really just policy lynch this late in the game?

Also: what the fuck is with that flip? I guess they're a part of the mini game going on. "Dayattacking Hunter" sounds like some kind of modified dayvig; "Swordsmith Hunter" sounds like gunsmith but with swords instead of guns.

Midnight's Sorrow wrote:I'm confused...

Is anyone else confused?

... I am... :(

Expression of confusion is scummy.
Unless you're chesskid.

Antifinity wrote:I just checked, and "hunter" is an alias for "lyncher" according to the wiki, so I'm guessing they were part of that whole minigame thing going on in the background. Since GreyICE never posted, I suspect he failed to meet some objective in time (midnight?) and that was the cause of his death. Dramonic did post and it was a vote on C-Worl. My guess from that is C-Worl might be the lynch target of one or more participants in the mini-game.

Hmm, I could see this making sense… but you've spent two posts so far largely talking about just the minigame. How about some actual scumhunting?

Midnight's Sorrow wrote:*facepalm*

There's a counter on Vezok...

He's 7 now... he was 8 before…

Dear god, man.

oboe wrote:"Yeah they can use their QT for a dead topic until I'm able to make a proper one." -> Anti-town faction with only the two of them in it

Oooooh nice catch. So they were, in fact, third party. Meaning the speculation that they were a part of the minigame seems even more accurate now.

Antifinity wrote:Well, if the Paranoid Gun Owner can actually block attacks as well as counter attack, then yes, it would be fine if they outed themself, but that seems unlikely to me. Also, it is very useful that the attack value is updated to be half at any given moment, that makes it much less exploitable. What I'd like to know next is if the event was random, neutral aligned, scum aligned, or town aligned. It would be great of course, if we knew Vezo's alignment, but that is no confirmation either way. If the mini-game is lyncher based, then the ninja attack could be part of that as well...
If I'm right in assuming that this whole "hunter" thing is part of the minigame, then even if our goals are unrelated (yes, I'm implicitly claiming not-mini-aligned here) the mini-game does still effect the main game, in the form of vote manipulation and/or accidental kills. This means that information revealed about the mini could be useful to those of us involved in the game proper. If you have information on the mini, and any reason to be sympathetic to the town, share what you know.

This post strikes me as ten kinds of wrong. You've now spent EVERY post today speculating on the minigame and third-party-hunting instead of scumhunting. That, my friend, is a big no no, and you've now warranted my vote for the following:
- Using minigame speculation to try and clear C-Worl as a "lyncher target"
- Using minigame speculation to avoid actually scumhunting
- Knowing a disproportionate amount of
correct
information about the minigame before it was ever announced or confirmed by the moderator

This leaves the following possibilities:
Antifinitiy is scum trying to use the minigame to avoid placing any real reads, or Antifinity is a part of the minigame and is now trying to blend in with the town due to some kind of snafu in the minigame itself.

Unvote;
Vote: Antifinity


Either way, we don't need you around.
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Post Post #223 (isolation #27) » Tue May 31, 2011 12:54 am

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...why would you claim night cop...on D1?
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Post Post #225 (isolation #28) » Tue May 31, 2011 12:57 am

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That's why it says "Lover" in their rolenames, right?
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Post Post #227 (isolation #29) » Tue May 31, 2011 12:58 am

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Well, that much was obvious. Anything useful you'd like to contribute? Like thoughts on Antifinity, specifically regarding my post on him?
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Post Post #230 (isolation #30) » Tue May 31, 2011 1:02 am

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But does it say third party?
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Post Post #240 (isolation #31) » Tue May 31, 2011 4:49 am

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Lobster wrote:i beleive kise said that minigames would involve both town and scum and possibly third parties, so i dont know how reliable asking for this information could be, since it could easily be misinformation sent to put us on the wrong track.

Source. Now.
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Post Post #251 (isolation #32) » Tue May 31, 2011 7:57 am

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Lobster wrote:Standard town vs. mafia, but with a mini-game between other players as well. The town & mafia's roles do not interfere much with the "mini-gamers" and vice versa, therefore the town and mafia are balanced against each other during any event.

So what about this makes you think the minigame involves town or scum? It specifically states that town and scum will not be affected by the minigame.

Kdub wrote:I don't think he was trying to clear C-Worl. Lyncher targets are not always town-aligned. And what correct information did he reveal about the minigame that was subsequently confirmed by the mod?

He "hypothesized" that the 8 votes was actually an L/2 mechanic, and later the mod confirmed it as such when vezok's stickyvotes dropped to 7. Not to mention the rest of the speculation about the minigame - he seems to know something the rest of us don't.

Elsa von Spielburg wrote:As one who has never played with this person, meta sounds good enough for me. And doing a quick Iso of him finds someone who has yet to put together a coherent sentence.

So you've never played with chesskid, therefore DON'T KNOW HIS META, but meta is a good enough reason to vote him?
FoS: Elsa


DeathNote wrote:I am more inclined to believe they were some sort of lovers then a scum team.

Not seeing why the two are mutually exclusive.

I want more Antifinity votes.
Elsa is also acceptable.
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Post Post #255 (isolation #33) » Tue May 31, 2011 8:38 am

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DK is terrible. Just terrible.
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Post Post #292 (isolation #34) » Tue May 31, 2011 10:35 am

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Lobster wrote:So what about this makes you think the minigame involves town or scum? It specifically states that town and scum will not be affected by the minigame.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

My original point was that you were wrong in assuming it DID involve scum/town.

DeityKabuto wrote:Shutup, don't interrupt my case. Try scumhunting, for once.

Tell me, who are your suspects?

You arrogant, ignorant fuckwad.

Tell me. In your month and a half stint on this site, what experience do you have with me that qualifies you to say "for once" at the end of that? Also, it is really fucking apparent that you're not reading the thread, as you'd see that I've been doing my share of scumhunting - something you've been completely devoid of… and no, I'm not telling you my suspects, especially since I
just
listed my top two on the last fucking page.

Learn to read, you juvenile twat.

DeityKabuko wrote:I just caught a scum, get on his wagon, you don't need a reason for agreeing with me.

1.
You claimed Day Cop in D1, only a scum would do that because a scum wouldn't have to worry about the "scumteam" night killing the Day Cop, because they are apart of that "scumteam".
2.
You are so eager to lynch C-Worl when he hasn't down anything really "scummy" in that essence, you are basing your entire vote on policy lynch and meta. But you didn't see that doing this could make you scummy yourself.

THIS is scumhunting to you? You challenge me to scumhunt, RIGHT AFTER announcing that people don't need a reason (and therefore, don't need to scumhunt) in order to agree with you?

1. This has no logical basis whatsoever. He never claimed daycop (herpderp), that was an implication of his post which he shot down. Furthermore, if there ARE day roles, then proper balance indicates there are other day roles to counter those day roles. So this point is a fail.
2. Explain to me why the things people have pointed out that C-Worl has done as scummy so far aren't "scummy in that essence". PS, there are plenty of other people who have gone after C-Worl based on just policy & meta, so why is vezok ANY FUCKING DIFFERENT?

DeityKabuko wrote:*sigh*

You guys can go with your beliefs about vezok, but that will not remove my suspicions from him.

He did not mention anything about meta or policy lynch, but that is clearly his intention as how he forcefully told everyone to Vote C-Worl, and C-Worl's meta shows he is not a good player.

OH! So
now
other people scumhunting and bringing up why you are really really fucking wrong about your suspicions about vezokpiraka won't change your mind, huh? So you're not even going to respond to the myriad of people telling you how fucking wrong you are?

Also, while I agree that C-Worl is not a good player, you are in absolutely NO position to be making that judgment.

DeityKabuko wrote:
Unvote


Fine, I'll take your word for it, but Vezok better not fuck up.

So Parabollocks responding to your case in a rational matter garners a response from you to the extent of "La la la la I'm not listening", but pappums rat just saying "Trust me you're wrong" somehow convinces you to back down?

DeityKabuko wrote:
pappums rat wrote:^ Scumposting.

Unvote
Vote: Elsa
Since when was using a meta scumposting?

I find his meta substantial, and not a bad reason for voting.

You aren't reading the goddamned thread, I just explained why Elsa is scummy the last page, and it's because Elsa says "I know nothing about his meta" and in the same breath says "His meta is good enough for me".

DeityKabuto wrote:
JPSalazar wrote:Also, voting on meta is crap. #CaptainObvious
Thank you, finally someone who reasons with me.
Dude, is English your first fucking language?

JP SALAZAR:
I'd like you to read Antifinity's iso, then read my posts regarding him, and tell me your thoughts.

WOULD LYNCH IMMEDIATELY:

Antifinity
C-Worl
DeityKabuko

I'd gladly swap those last two around in any order, but Antifinity is my #1 choice.
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Post Post #293 (isolation #35) » Tue May 31, 2011 10:36 am

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GreyICE wrote:Bah okay I'm alive despite my best efforts. Content soon.

LOLWUT

u ded bro
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Post Post #298 (isolation #36) » Tue May 31, 2011 10:49 am

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The difference is that these votes went
down
instead of
up
, which means they're directly related to number needed to lynch. So far, it looks like L/2. When 30 were alive, it took 16 to lynch, and vezok had 8 votes (16/2). Now that 28 are alive, it takes 15 to lynch, and vezok has half of that rounded down (15/2).

PREVIEW EDIT: C-Worl was a policy lynch, but I became doubly aware of his scumminess after he started expressing confusion. In my experience, expression of confusion without willingness or exhibiting effort to solve that confusion is a scum tell.

It's like you're not even reading my posts and instead are just emptyquoting randomly. DK isn't scummy? Seriously. Read my analysis of his posts and tell me he isn't scummy.
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Post Post #299 (isolation #37) » Tue May 31, 2011 10:49 am

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PS, if DK is scum, pappums rat is a likely partner.
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Post Post #301 (isolation #38) » Tue May 31, 2011 11:02 am

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He's scum?
Vote now plz?
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Post Post #303 (isolation #39) » Tue May 31, 2011 11:04 am

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^ Town.
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Post Post #307 (isolation #40) » Tue May 31, 2011 11:08 am

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JP, It's fairly simple, here.

Rather than hunting for scum, he has spent the entirety of the game hunting for third party/speculating on third party mechanics. This, in turn, allows him to neglect commenting on any actual pertinent issues, and he can basically actively lurk with setup speculation/third party hunting.

None of this is pro-town. It is, in fact, very anti-town. So he's either scum, or third party who is hunting for other third parties out there if we're to believe his HUNTERS ARE LYNCHERS thing is accurate. Kise actually mentioned something to me a LONG TIME AGO about a future game, now that I think about it, but I don't want to say it and get modkilled for discussing shit like that.
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Post Post #309 (isolation #41) » Tue May 31, 2011 11:12 am

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No need to unvote Elsa, keep her in the batter's box for later.
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Post Post #317 (isolation #42) » Tue May 31, 2011 12:48 pm

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You backed down unde rpressure.
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Post Post #324 (isolation #43) » Tue May 31, 2011 1:45 pm

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Antifinity wrote:As far as actual scum-hunting goes? xRECKONERx is my instinct-vote, because in the games I've played, people who post 'emotionally' are generally trying to cover up something. Sometimes it isn't anti-town though, so idk. I'm keeping my vote: Hiraki until he starts making sense (randomly jumping votes then tunneling C~worl on policy?) or until I see a strong case for someone else.

I'm your instinct vote based off bullshit AtE meta (seriously, read my fucking completed games, what the hell am I doing 'emotionally'?), then you turn around and IMMEDIATELY fence-sit on me, and then say that you're just gonna vote Hiraki because he's not making sense.

You can die now.
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Post Post #332 (isolation #44) » Tue May 31, 2011 4:12 pm

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Mod: I will actually replace out this time if you don't make a ruling on the picture spam.
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Post Post #375 (isolation #45) » Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:41 am

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Antifinity wrote:I'm not fence sitting on your lynch. I feel like lynching you, but that is just explaining why I'm not voting for you, I don't vote based on indefinite reads.

How is your read on me "indefinite"? Please use proper fucking English.

[quoe="Midnight's Sorrow"]The elsa and deity wagons smell greatly of easy mislynchs run by scum going for the easy kill.

Not buying them one bit.

I know it's hard with so many peeps, but pleased to try harder then that scum.

kthnksbai~

Vote: Moratorium


I can't rationalize how a Townie could possibly find something odd about that.[/quote]

Moratorium wrote:Can I just ask a question here...

Is this game just filled to the brim with terrible players?

Yes. Thank god Quilford replaced one of the morons.
The only players I respect or admire in any capacity in this game are:
Katsuki, KDub, dramonic, ooba, Hiraki, HellloooNewman, diddin, Panzerjager, GreyICE, JP, and Parabollocks.

Everyone else is either retarded or I know nothing about or I just don't care about.
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Post Post #377 (isolation #46) » Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:42 am

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I know nothing about you. You're definitely one of the good guys, though.
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Post Post #379 (isolation #47) » Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:49 am

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^5
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Post Post #381 (isolation #48) » Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:13 am

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Then vote him.
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Post Post #383 (isolation #49) » Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:49 am

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I feel like I
just
saw DK play this horribly in another game and get wagoned D1 and come up town but I have no clue what game it was.
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Post Post #386 (isolation #50) » Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:27 am

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DO
NOT
FUCKING
SETUP
SPECULATE

YOU IGNORANT JERKOFF
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Post Post #388 (isolation #51) » Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:30 am

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Post Post #409 (isolation #52) » Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:03 am

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Everyone needs to CHARGE FULL SPEED AHEAD onto Anti's wagon so we can let any vigs/SKs/scums/hunters/whatever out there take care of some of the baggage overnight.
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Post Post #428 (isolation #53) » Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:20 pm

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Antifinity wrote:Why are you so obsessed with not figuring out what is going on here? This is clearly not a normal game with normal rules, and playing it like it is will lead to serious problems for the town. In both SEM games I've been in, the mechanics have had a huge impact on how the game was played.

Because it's clearly stated in the rules that this is standard town vs. scum, with a mini-game. We know the hunter flips are involved in the mini-game somehow, and figuring out mechanics/setup speculation is just an excuse to not scumhunt.

Antifinity wrote:Am I lyncher target for you guys, or what? Why would you vote me if you haven't even caught up yet?

When did he say he hadn't caught up? In fact, he said he had some pretty definite ideas on who scum is, but would get a more substantial post up tomorrow. Nowhere in there does he state he isn't caught up.

DeityKabuko wrote:I'm confused on that part too, people are playing like assholes atm, nobody is scumhunting, their are the inactives, pretty fail shit going on here.

lol irony
Seriously, if there's a vig out there, put a bullet through his goddamn skull right now.

C-Worl wrote:Other Note: Reck told DK not to set up speculate when his questions about the minigame were versions of setup speculation. Of course Reck normally is very hypocritical so it's a null tell.

No. Not even close.

Parabollocks wrote:And now I see where the anti case is.

THEN HOW ABOUT A GODDAMNED VOTE?
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Post Post #429 (isolation #54) » Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:21 pm

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Katsuki you get on this Anti wagon right now or so help me god I'll forbid you from using ninja avatars
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Post Post #431 (isolation #55) » Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:28 pm

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Post Post #435 (isolation #56) » Wed Jun 01, 2011 2:58 pm

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C-Worl wrote:
Bunnylover wrote:@C-World: Why bring up the fact that Reck did something hypocritical if its a null tell? What is the reasoning for that?


BC even if it's a null tell for me I'm pointing it out so that other people can make their own opinions on it.

FoS: C-Worl


I'll let you all infer the obvious.
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Post Post #437 (isolation #57) » Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:10 pm

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The hunter's colors don't match up with my town colors.
They're also not notified as scum.

The rules clearly state this is scum vs. town with a minigame.

The only logical conclusion is that the blue flips are involved in the minigame, and therefore third party.
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Post Post #444 (isolation #58) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:15 am

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So I'm scum because my reasons for voting Antifinity are shit?

Tell me, in your own words, what my reasons for voting him are. Then tell me why they're shit. Then, on top of all of that, please tell me how someone who is listed at TOWN-ALIGNED would be "better off" if he didn't claim. Then tell me where this magic number of "40-60%" is coming from... and once you clear up all that arbitrary bullshit, maybe we can proceed.
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Post Post #447 (isolation #59) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:39 am

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DK wrote:Is this an OMGUS I see?

I'm really trying to play with you like you have a single iota of intelligence. Don't make me regret it.

DK wrote:You voted Antifinity for setup speculation, right?

No.
DK wrote:You implied that he was a minigame role when he never stated that, that can't possibly be a scumtell or a good reason for a lynch.

If you ever actually fucking read what people write and had any sort of reading comprehension, you'd see that is not all of what I'm saying.

DK wrote:I am not saying that makes you scum,

So then why the fuck am I your top scum read? You're not saying I'm scum… you're just saying I'm your #1 scum read.

DK wrote:I am just saying, in games I've played where people flip scum

You mean every one of them?

DK wrote:it's when they've done something super scummy or their previous actions show it.

OH MY GEE GOLLY GOSH YOU'RE FUCKING BRILLIANT. WE NEED A MD ARTICLE ON THIS SHIT.

DK wrote:You can't make final judgements or final decisions for who's scum or not in D1 alone.







You are officially blacklisted from my games after this one. You are one of the worst players I've ever encountered.
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Post Post #450 (isolation #60) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:18 am

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Moratorium wrote:False. Other alternatives have been divulged within this game. Yet your certainty remains.

No, they haven't. And if they have, then there's no logical basis for them.

Like I said -- a long time ago, Kise told me an idea he had for a game, and it didn't hit me until I started thinking about this mini-game here that this COULD be the same thing, or the same concept.
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Post Post #452 (isolation #61) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:56 am

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Lobster. Explain why the Antifinity wagon isn't valid.
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Post Post #456 (isolation #62) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:03 am

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I have zero intention of this game taking up the whole three weeks of the deadline FYI.

@popsofctown: You most certainly did vote antifinity.

PREDIT: That.
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Post Post #459 (isolation #63) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:38 am

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Moratorium wrote:
xRECKONERX wrote:
I have zero intention of this game taking up the whole three weeks of the deadline FYI.


That's been made plain. Stating it openly does not make it any less suspicious, however.

FoS: xRECKONERx

Lobster wrote:@reck, are you saying you are ok with a 5 day d1?


I feel like I need to explain something to you guys.

Psychic Mafia: I rush-lynched scum D1 & D2 and called out the N1 vig shot. D1 lasted ~24 hours, D2 lasted less than 12 hours.

Elements Mafia: The whole game lasted two weeks, including the nights. D1, D2, and D3 were all scum lynches, once again lead by me.

Fates Mafia: The entire game lasted less than two real life days. I lead a lynch on mafia lovers D1, the vig shot my 2nd highest suspect N1, and I investigated the final scum N1 and got him lynched D2.

Caffwagon Invitational: Not quite as quick, but the whole game lasted three days, and was over in a month (scum lynched each day). That's a week per day, if you discount night phases.

Just a few examples of games where I've done well, and they also just so happened to be the quickest games. I thrive in fast-paced environments as town. This is how I play, and there are players here who can back that up (or, just look at the evidence listed above). So no, it's not "scummy" for me to want a fast day.
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Post Post #469 (isolation #64) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:33 am

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Not going to go through two other games for purely meta purposes.

If you want to elaborate on the differences, that's fine. But I hardly have time enough for all the games I'm in already, let alone to read other games.
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Post Post #472 (isolation #65) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:51 am

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Moratorium wrote:"...but I'll be happy to put up four games of my own and demand you read them to validate my wanting to quicklynch D1..."

No, I didn't just link to them. I explained my MO for you and laid out the brief details of each game quite blatantly for you all. I felt the need to say this because there are some new faces here who aren't familiar with my play/haven't played with me before.

@Kdub: So you're taking two isolated incidents and claiming that meta clears him here? Until he proves that he's doing something valuable, my vote stays. Meta doesn't excuse blatantly poor play and lack of scumhunting.

The difference between myself and Anti is this:

1) I'm using meta to defend myself from an accusation that isn't even scummy in and of itself. Someone wanting to rush things along or speed things up has no valid basis in being "scummy".
2) Anti is ONLY setup speculating and is not doing any scumhunting at all.
3) Rather than just saying "That's my meta, read these games", I provided a clear and concise reasoning for my meta.

Also, Kdub - my biggest problem with Anti is that he's NOT scumhunting, and also that he seemed to have a preternatural understanding of the mini-game before we had seen any flips or had any concrete details. He also seems to be mostly focused ON the minigame and trying to get people to play along with it, asking people to claim, etc. which means he is likely not town. I would put him as more likely third party than more likely scum, but he's a fine lynch either way.
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Post Post #482 (isolation #66) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:47 am

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DeityKabuko wrote:Tired of these no reason votes. Anti was first voted by Reck after making a comment about the minigame, which I think is shit.

You don't even bother reading my posts, or my responses to you, so I'm
done
giving you the time of day. As far as I'm concerned, you're on my ignore list from here on out unless there's a miraculous shift in your play.

DeityKabuko wrote:Reck is gonna be like Fate last game, attracting 7 night actions over the first two days. :P

Fine by me, as long as none of them are a vig shot. That belongs solely to DeityKabuko.

Katsuki wrote:
DeityKabuto wrote:
Katsuki wrote:
DeityKabuto wrote:
Katsuki wrote:So scum this game are Hiraki, Anti, DK, and maybe C-Worl (don't remember why, but I think I had him on my scumlist).

Reck is gonna be like Fate last game, attracting 7 night actions over the first two days. :P


Take C-Worl and I off the list unless you want a mis-lynch this game which would make you scummy.

Also explain your vote on Anti?

Tired of these no reason votes. Anti was first voted by Reck after making a comment about the minigame, which I think is shit.


You're scum, simple as.
Reck says Anti is scum, simple as.


Unvote
Vote Katsuki


You are just following the crowd saying I am scum when there is not one thing in this game I have done that can actually be called scummy.

Katsuki, give me 3-5 solid reasons for your scum-read on me. No Excuses.


:lol:

What are you laughing at? I see nothing.

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Post Post #484 (isolation #67) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:54 am

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Oh right.

2nd quote should be Kats not [redacted]
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Post Post #514 (isolation #68) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:59 am

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Katsuki wrote:It took you this long to figure out Reck and I were alignment confirmed masons? :/

I guess the ninja references weren't enough breadcrumbz.

pops wrote:You dug up all the links yourself, or if you have an organized wiki, you at the very least messed with html tags.. all to explain to other players why they shouldn't be allowed to have more time to discern eachother's alignments.

And you won't even begin to look at antifinity's play to discern his alignment.

Are you always this antitown?

No, pops. Moratorium insinuated that I was scummy for pushing so hard for a quick day, and I was using meta to show him why that's a non-tell for me. Antifinity's play this game is what I'm focused on, because it is
completely devoid of scumhunting
. If he was speculating on the setup AND scumhunting/putting pressure on people, my vote probably wouldn't be there.

And me? Anti-town? lololololol

Katsuki wrote:DK is scum, lets not get distracted.

How do you distinguish "insufferable, rambling idiot" from "blatantly obvious scum" Katsbaby?
My brain. It hurts.
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Post Post #516 (isolation #69) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:00 am

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YOU CAN'T READ STUPID
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Clarification: "You can't read stupid" should have the meaning "It is impossible to get a good read on someone who is mostly devoid of brain function" and not "Katsuki, you are illiterate, you fool".
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Post Post #539 (isolation #71) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:49 am

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Midnight's Sorrow wrote:http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc89 ... aito-2.jpg

Reck is soo cute in this thread, he's adorable.

Vig isn't gonna vig Deity- LOL

Mora continues too send scum-flags with every post- why isn't anyone else seeing this?

Oh right- cause we're too busy bullshitting around with an Anti wagon.

Good stuff. Really good to know.

Man, now I know why Ythan was nearly willing to get himself modkilled over you in Ocarina of Time Mafia. If the vig isn't one of the halfwits, they'll vig Deity. If not, then oh fucking well, just another goddamned VI to throw on the pile.

Newman wrote:I am more than willing to vote DK now, if we have enough interest to get it done. If the gig does NOT do the right thing and rid us of this game cancer, my vote will NEVER leave him until he is gone.

Easy, Newman. Let's wait on that until we see if the vig is full retard or not.

Midnight's Sorrow wrote:^2 posts above this:

This is our miller???

Oh boy...

@Hikari

In terms that you can probably understand- Anti is like a whisper in the wind compared the gong sounding in the air that is Mora.

And I continue to LMAO@ the Vig Direction BS

Either throw up a goddamn case on Mora or shut the hell up.
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Post Post #561 (isolation #72) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:16 pm

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Antifinity wrote:Alright, I think that hammers me, but just in case I'm at L-1, I'm gonna go ahead and claim. My name is Yoko "Yo-Yo" Kishibojin from Ehrgeiz: God Bless the Ring.
I am a vanilla cop, no mention of sanity.

No.

Vezok claims cop, AND Antifinity is a cop?

Fuck no.

One of them dies TODAY.
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Post Post #563 (isolation #73) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:18 pm

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Sure is breezy in here.
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Post Post #567 (isolation #74) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:22 pm

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Antifinity wrote:Alright, I think that hammers me, but just in case I'm at L-1, I'm gonna go ahead and claim. My name is Yoko "Yo-Yo" Kishibojin from Ehrgeiz: God Bless the Ring.
I am a vanilla cop, no mention of sanity.

Explain to me how vanilla cop has a sanity.
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Post Post #570 (isolation #75) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:25 pm

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Well then if you're so useless... no problem watching you die.
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Post Post #573 (isolation #76) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:26 pm

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Real cop claims don't go "oh btw I'm not confirmed sane"

Way to set up for a clear if you claim a fake report on someone

die

PREDIT: No, we can't check that, due to your whole 'LOL IDK MY SANITY BRO'
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Post Post #578 (isolation #77) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:40 pm

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Antifinity wrote:we just had a daykilling vig team die

Kise wrote:GREYICE -
ODIN
(DAYATTACKING HUNTER)
- SLICED 'N DICED DAY 1
DRAMONIC -
SLEIPNIR
(SWORDSMITH HUNTER)
- DIED WITH HIS MASTER DAY 1

really? where
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Post Post #581 (isolation #78) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:44 pm

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What if the sky was purple, what if pigs actually could fly, what if my penis wasn't 11 inches?
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Post Post #591 (isolation #79) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:06 pm

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You've been hammered.
You can stop now.
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Post Post #594 (isolation #80) » Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:08 pm

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From: SE:MG
Antifinity -
Darth Malak
(Modified Jack-of-All-Trades)
, riddled with bullets Night 3

lolololollololololool

well if you weren't hammered before, then you're going to be now
way to lie about your role in a game that just finished
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Post Post #608 (isolation #81) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:25 pm

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TWO MORE VOTES.
GO NOW.
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Post Post #615 (isolation #82) » Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:46 pm

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SHIT
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Post Post #621 (isolation #83) » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:49 am

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Oops.

Okay, so I was wrong about the implications, but Antifinity was still antitown as hell, so whatever.
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Post Post #623 (isolation #84) » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:55 am

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T_________________________________T
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Post Post #632 (isolation #85) » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:32 am

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popsofctown wrote:
vote: Hiraki
sheepiest member of that wagon. If there wasnt multiple scum on that stupid wagon, I don't want to win with this town.

shh shh pops
it's all okay

Vote: Hiraki


No reason.
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Post Post #635 (isolation #86) » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:36 am

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Oh, I like where Amrun is going with this

BUT I FORGOT ABOUT MY SUPER SEEEKRIT PM LAST NIGHT

Vote: DeityKabuto


Claim who you targeted. Now.
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Post Post #636 (isolation #87) » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:36 am

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Unless there's some really fuckin' weird mechanic here DK is not a jailkeeper
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Post Post #645 (isolation #88) » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:00 am

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Reck wrote:Unless there's some really fuckin' weird mechanic here DK is not a jailkeeper

Oooops, wrong game. Okay.

Well I got some weird-ass vision last night about flying creatures so I'm not sure what that means.
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Post Post #653 (isolation #89) » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:28 am

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Oh, Kats got a vision too?

Can someone interpret the flavor of a winged creature who never flies?
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Post Post #675 (isolation #90) » Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:56 pm

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Why is kdub's name in red
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Post Post #683 (isolation #91) » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:18 am

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Moratorium is town.

Also, guys, come on. Katsuki and I aren't masons together. I thought that was an obvious lie.
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Post Post #694 (isolation #92) » Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:35 am

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Amrun wrote:Why lie, reckoner?

We really didn't. We never confirmed we were masons, we joked around about the Ninjas thing like we do in EVERY GAME TOGETHER.
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Post Post #700 (isolation #93) » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:02 am

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Panzer you're not even trying now.

Cmon
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Post Post #701 (isolation #94) » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:02 am

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Also if you were a mason why the fucking hell did you not vote me yesterday when everyone thought I had claimed masons with kats
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Post Post #705 (isolation #95) » Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:20 pm

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tbqh i was trying to draw the nightkill but yeah
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