Square Enix VI (MAFIA WINS)

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/confirm

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VOTE: C-worl

Hi, play better this game or the vote stays, k?

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yes, this is the correct wagon.

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i am so proud ;_;

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i only know a couple of people from my last game, so sup i guess from that.

i'm not a parama alt
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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sakujo

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UNVOTE:

Not in favor of the sudden pile-up, done with RVS.

however, i'm not in favor of Mora's #106.

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yeah, 114 is pretty shit, but considering C-worl, i just can't tell with him, and even if pressured he won't give us anything beneficial.

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VOTE: C-worl

lol

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So many people, i don't like, so little time~

AFAIK, people speculating over whether or whether not vezok's supposed day cop claim is true, i just don't even know, there is some serious over-analyzation right now i feel like i'm in the matrix.

reads coming soon.

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i like hiraki now.

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YOU ALL ARE IDIOTS.

C-WORL IS ACTUALLY SCUMMY.

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF RECK WAS PURSUING A POLICY LYNCH. WHEN SOMEONE IS SCUMMY, YOU LYNCH THE SCUMMY PERSON. NOT THE PLAUSIBLY SCUMMY PERSON.

hiraki already explained it for me.

also lol

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uhh..yeah?

why do you think i said lol, i was baffled by his sudden "oh i'm sorry for playing scummy and stupid i'll be good now don't lynch me pls ((("

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Your vote came right after you said that you can't read C-Worl and that pressure on him would be useless. Why the sudden change?

because why ignore something legitimately scummy despite your un-certainty?

and actually, i unvoted at that phase, but then hiraki reminded me why i voted in the first place.

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oh and just noticed, i did flip suddenly, but my other points stand to that.

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HAHAHAHAHAHA.

You can't kill the cop. You were stricken down into the ground>:)

So yes I'm a night cop. Go figure.

LoL at GI attacking me.

Let's lynch C-Worl guys.

Lynch vezokpiraka

I just caught a scum, get on his wagon, you don't need a reason for agreeing with me.

1.

You claimed Day Cop in D1, only a scum would do that because a scum wouldn't have to worry about the "scumteam" night killing the Day Cop, because they are apart of that "scumteam".

2.

You are so eager to lynch C-Worl when he hasn't down anything really "scummy" in that essence, you are basing your entire vote on policy lynch and meta. But you didn't see that doing this could make you scummy yourself.

this makes no fucking sense

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i'm in a generous mood, i'll level with you.

[quote]1. You claimed Day Cop in D1, only a scum would do that because a scum wouldn't have to worry about the "scumteam" night killing the Day Cop, because they are apart of that "scumteam".
2. You are so eager to lynch C-Worl when he hasn't down anything really "scummy" in that essence, you are basing your entire vote on policy lynch and meta. But you didn't see that doing this could make you scummy yourself.p/quote]

the "scumteam" already did something to vezok, at first i was curious myself but once that mod post showed i'm pretty certain he's cop, you're over analyzing it for another thing.
2. C-worl hasn't done anything scummy? really? you been reading this game? meta? where the fuck did vezok say meta? policy lynch? wat? didn't see that doing this...what.

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grrr messed up my quote

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i feel like this whole day has been wasted on the wrong people, hell, i'm not even sure if i like my vote on c-worl anymore, instead, i would rather direct attention elsewhere.

where? i'm looking but alot of this day is crap crap crap.

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Yeah, this dumb-fuck town read is getting pretty hard to look at anymore. >_>

VOTE: DK

FoS: bobsnox

getting to my FoS later.

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i feel like this whole day has been wasted on the wrong people, hell, i'm not even sure if i like my vote on c-worl anymore, instead, i would rather direct attention elsewhere.

where? i'm looking but alot of this day is crap crap crap.

Next post:

Yeah, this dumb-fuck town read is getting pretty hard to look at anymore. >_>

VOTE: DK

FoS: bobsnox

getting to my FoS later.

^ Opportunistic scum alert.

FOS: Parabollocks

*cough*

This is you:

Vote: Deity

Trololololololol I just skipped through the thread.

Unvote

Really? Do you really think you caught scum? I lol'd.

^ If we dont lynch Elsa or someone else who I think is probably scum today, I would be alright with a compromise/policy lynch on DK.

There's a flaw here, and its called your logic, dk is the age old factor of dumb or scum, and I have begun to lean scum, such as your post below quoting him, and his latest speculation post, its all crap.

Also, so, I'm oppurtunistic scum eh? Elsa had a bw too, yknow, and you also say you would pl dk if elsa is not lynched, so what's up?

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@Bob's 407

That post is bad, really bad.

What are you trying to accomplish? I don't get what you are getting at with that point of yours..

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@Bob's 407

That post is bad, really bad.

What are you trying to accomplish? I don't get what you are getting at with that point of yours..

ooba seems scummy with his read. It just doesn't make sense to me. It's like he's picking something really small/unknown out and building a list of three alignments based on it.

According to him, I'm scum because I voted chess. That's fine (wrong but whatever). But how is he clearing Chess and Elsa by calling me scum?

What am I missing?

According to you, and ooba, he has you as scum for different reasons, so why not attack him on those reasons instead of constantly parroting how his scum read doesn't make sense because of interaction between you, elsa and the vote of cheaskid? And I don't explictly remember ooba clearing either of them, so don't make it sound like it revolves around you.

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DO
NOT
FUCKING
SETUP
SPECULATE

YOU IGNORANT JERKOFF

Why are you so obsessed with not figuring out what is going on here? This is clearly not a normal game with normal rules, and playing it like it is will lead to serious problems for the town. In both SEM games I've been in, the mechanics have had a huge impact on how the game was played.

No, its a bad thing, you can't guess what the mod has in store, or speculate what the setup is, you'll get off-task and its not worth it.

Replacing for CHESSKID.

Got some pretty definite ideas on who scum is. I'll get a chunky post up tomorrow.

For now,
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Antifinity

Am I lyncher target for you guys, or what? Why would you vote me if you haven't even caught up yet?

And now I see where the anti case is.

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Because I'm gonna make a case on bobby soon, or whenever I'm back on a computer.

VOTE: anti

But I know how much this means to you, so viola

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Oh my, it seems some people want me dead.

What for? I guess I am now captain bandwagon of the s.s bullshit.

@Lc's 451

So, what specifically makes me scummy on those wagons, eh?

I've stated why I have flipped, and hell, I stated I didn't like either the cworl or dk wagon at first, but dks scumminess is evident, VI or not. i guess people want me to spoonfeed them My reads all of the sudden, and apparently I sheep, pfft.

Call me when you get a better case on me.

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I was the first to vote c-worl, as an RVS vote, but after thinking about it and unvoting, yes, pressuring him was useless but his flip from trolling asshat to town tool bothered me, so I voted him again, so technically, I didn't even sheep hiraki, I voted him before that but I agreed with him.

As for dk, I stated its the age old factor of dumb or scum, and I took latter.

I'm getting to anti, but let me get on my computer.

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Also yes, I do think the day has been wasted on dumb or scum, thus why I unvoted both; did you see My fos on bob?

He's gonna be My main point of interest soon.

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Dk, you have no reading comprehension, I've explained all My vote flips in a concise manner, I don't have to go into extra detail, and now...oh My fucking god lmfao go back to newbie already

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WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING IN 8 GAMES HOLY SHIT SLOW DOWN

You don't have to be in that many games, I'm only in this one.

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There can be different mason factions, dk, they all don't have to be aligned with eachother.

And pappum is right, reck didn't openly claim mason, kat did.

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And foremost,dk, you'll get roleblocked or get killed, so its a bad idea, but now, you've already claimed to have one, so ittl happen anyway, good job. >_>

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Chill the fuck out, you obviously haven't ever played a game with katsuki, dk.

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Dk...you're so brilliant man.

And UNVOTE:

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Derp. Totally forgot about vezok too. >_>

VOTE: anti

Also reck makes a good point and also, hate you forever hiraki you ninja me here

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"I may" "I might"

Jesus christ you know your role you shoudlnt be wishy washy with what and what you can't do, anti.

What if dk is smart? That's the biggest what if..

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Also dk you are offically everyones bitch <3

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patience, bobby.

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OKAY I'mma break this shits down in alphabetical order for y'all.

bobsnox: Leaning scum. He has a long string of VI or "easy" votes (Chesskid, DK, Elsa), changed at opportunistic whim. Then, he finally reaches an original attack with some teeth, pointing out a legitimate flaw in ooba's posting, and dances around it. No vote here, when it's his first legitimate REASONING behind someone being scummy? Not even calling ooba out as scummy, really, only kindasortamaybe? I also didn't like the dichotomy that he votes chesskid off of meta with hedging language, "correct me if I'm wrong," and then votes for Elsa for doing the same thing. However, I like his exchange with Parabollocks and his point on ooba WAS good, so I give him a few town points, too. This is closer to scum than null.

you just made the case for me, while being a cop-out or not, i'm just being lazy, whether you want to harp on me for doing so, that's wonderful, however, i like your catch-up post, shows pro-town motive and good judgement.

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forgot to add that i do not agree with some of your picks:

Chesskid/Quilford: Leaning scum. Chesskid did NOTHING, which amounts to a null tell. Quilford, though, blatantly bandwagoned and then promised content tomorrow in a "chunky post." What is that chunky post? Closer to null, though, especially if he produces.

Chesskid always does nothing, idk about quill, give him a chance to explain himself or grill the shit out of him if you want.

and same here, null.

C-Worl: Leaning town. I sort of see what people were attacking earlier on but disagree that it is a scumtell for C-Worl, and his genuine effort is above average for him throughout the game. ISO #19 leaves a bad taste in my mouth, though. It's like if everyone else thinks it's scummy, he might "re-evaluate" his own opinion on it, leaving room for backtracking. Still, null with enough effort to bump it over to a bit town.

I'm still leaning scum with this slot, excuse my parrot but did you see when we had a BW on him and how his sudden flip from troll to town tool doesn't seem sincere?

i think he's playing a more survivable game if you ask me, i've played with C-town and he usually goes latter and trolls the fuck out of the game.

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i had a case in my mind, i just never took the time to put it on paper.

i think i stated why i found him scummy, i just didn't go into detail.

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Sephiroth?

idk.

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Amrun, are you merely attacking pops simply because how he reacted, and then starting bs as pops said?

Because that's what it looks like, so far your points are mere opnion and not any evidence, but however when confront with some pressure; what pops has been saying.

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Lal is really dumb to go by...

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I have no reads, and honestly, it's been a clusterfuck game so far.

This.

Also I don't care If you vote me, noone has made a good case on me yet, just "oh he's so inactive and such a sheep blah" when there are multiple other players who have been doing the same thing, and also, I refuted those anyways so coolio either way.

This game has so much useless information however, so I can see why the place is so dull.

Amrun you never responded to me though.

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Well I'm back, as Kise pre-empted, and after a

quick-fire

skim of the thread since I last had a proper grasp on the game:

I have no reads, and honestly, it's been a clusterfuck game so far.

This more or less applies to me too. I had been writing up a case on C-Worl and Ooba as I went, as potential scum. Then they had to go and die / fulfil w/c, leaving me w/out a suspect.

So JPSalazar, Chronopie and Parabollocks all profess to having "no reads".

Sorry, but that just translates to "I'm too lazy to read the game" for me, with a pinch of "I'm scum and can't fabricate that many opinions". If I can sit down and ISO everyone in the game (and that post took me probably thirty minutes, just a quick skim on everyone), anyone can. I award you all bonus scum points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

+1 for billy madison reference.

i wouldn't say i don't have any reads, i was just agreeing that this game has been a clusterfuck and has been hard to get reads, and therefore i feel my reads are fabricated, but the certain people i have been focusing on or i found scummy are not, so that's to amrun too.

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Amrun, are you merely attacking pops simply because how he reacted, and then starting bs as pops said?

Because that's what it looks like, so far your points are mere opnion and not any evidence, but however when confront with some pressure; what pops has been saying.

^ this amrun, btw.

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What kind of question is that? What answer do you expect? YES I AM SCUMZ? Of curse I'm not, but I would hardly answer yes to that question if that were true, would I? I am addressing popsofctown with hard evidence and his best answer is "irl made me forget I suspected C-Worl and totally reverse my stance with no explanation" and "I will ignore the point of your post and tell you some other irrelevant information."

I am using posts, timestamps, etc to show pops why I suspect him and why I drew the conclusion that his reactions are fake and that he is scum.

But go ahead and parrot someone else's mudslinging some more.

Seriously, what was the point of that question? What conclusions were you hoping to draw from my answer?

It's a stacked question and I don't like it.

way to go over-board on a simple question.

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Seriously, what was the point of that question? What conclusions were you hoping to draw from my answer?

You're trying to call someone scum for how they 'reacted', that's a very weak argument and then you took it one step further and make a whole lot of bs on pops.

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and just so people don't flip shit i guess i can be a bit more giving then i have been, but it's usually not my forte.

Parabollocks: On all wagons, blatant case sheeping to put attention on bobsnox after being asked for a case that took a long time to emerge. Scum.

i think my vote process was:

c-worl > dk > anti.

that's only 3 people, and most of those aren't even sheeps, c-worl wagon had some fire to it, dk was dk and felt scummy, and anti was a majority decision.

i haven't even placed my vote yet, i could make that seething case on bobsnox but alas.

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Oh man, i actually have motivation this time? woohoo.

i'll just do an ISO, anybody colored in red are my main focuses.

Bobsnox

- Despite my enthusiasm to slap this guy across the face, i still think he is scum, and here is why:

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 5#p3088905

As we all know, bobby showed up with his first vote being chesskid, simply on meta, and that chesskid wasn't playing as townchesskid.

wonderful, fantastic, A+.

but then...we see someone else voting him, elsa.

oh look my vote on Chesskid caught scum lol. I like the case on DeityKabuko as well, though. #314 is good.

Scumlist:
DK
Elsa von Spielburg

UNVOTE: Chesskid (will look at his slot later)

VOTE: DeityKabuko

But I think both Elsa's vote and unvote were scummy.

Calling someone scum for the exact same thing you did? bad.

DK vote is pretty warranted, but oh woe is me, i'm being called scum for sheeping.

UNVOTE: DK

VOTE: Elsa von Spielburg

Scummy when she posts but even scummier in the fact that she's not voting anyone. There are plenty of options right now... How was Chess the only viable option for her?

ooba - Chess is town because I voted him or what? And Elsa is town because she ___? My Chess vote was scummy but Elsa voting him after me makes her town? That is a really odd analysis in that department.

According to him, I'm scum because I voted chess. That's fine (wrong but whatever). But how is he clearing Chess and Elsa by calling me scum?

What am I missing?

Post 412... - Potential issue detected...

Bobsnox... Querying reason for voting CK?

Ooba... Subject motivation unclear.

Are you asking me why I voted Chess? If so, because of how he was avoiding attention big time. I've seen him do that as scum before. TownChess tries to pull weird (sometimes funny) gimmicks like claiming cop results or whatever. If not that, then he at least posts with more enthusiasm. ScumChess knows he is bad at being scum (I have a quote somewhere) and tries to minimize the attention on him. I think my Chess vote was pretty darn good, except he's replacing out for reasons that negates my analysis ;_;

bobby, oh bobby, you're killing me.

this whole game you have only defended your vote on chesskid, mother of god.


bob gets his own part because idk he's still my main focus.

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if you go look at elsa's post, they did the same thing, he/she voted chess on basically the same reason bob did, no joke.

I've been reading every post since I last posted but withholding comment because I honestly don't know what's going on. The two biggest strands recently were the vezok thing and those daykills, but I was lost through most of it.

That said, I'm going to

VOTE: Chesskid

because this definitely looks like scumChess to me. Correct me if I'm wrong, but townChess posts more and tries to pull random gimmicks while scumChess just stays out of the spotlight.

As one who has never played with this person, meta sounds good enough for me. And doing a quick Iso of him finds someone who has yet to put together a coherent sentence.

Vote: Chesskid

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Parabollocks's defense on being on every early game wagon appears to boil down to "It was only three wagons". Three is enough, it was every early wagon, and your vote shifts had minimal public reasoning behind them.

Para's case on bobsnox feels like weak tea to me, but I'd still like to see a response from bobsnox.

the case on bob is pretty weak if you look at it, but it's a case for curiosity, i'd also like to hear bob respond, and i'm glad amrun gave me the details that elsa hasn't even played with chess and voted with him for no reason besides his meta intuition.

that bit of information makes me feel better about bobsnox, because i didn't know that, however as amrun said, he said he voted chess as a ploy and never followed up on it, so that's another reason.

I agree that Pops v. Amrun is TvT, at least for now.

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also i would respond to your opnion on my defense but i don't feel the need to seeing how all i could say is basically a parrot of what i've been saying.

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I'm playing lazy, what can i say, i'm not taking 100% into this game as i usually do, so excuse me.

Sure - what exactly is the case though? It seems to have changed the last few times Parabollocks has posted. He feels better about my Chess vote and he sees that it's different from Elsa's Chess vote.

Parabollocks - see above. What is it I need to answer at this point?

Basically that you voted chess, elsa followed, and apparently that was all a ploy to catch scum, you then do a bunch of other shit that bothers me.

here's the post for reference. http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 1#p3118901

This is a good lynch. As others have said, he has been doing a lot of

poorly-reasoned bandwagoning

.

He also seems to keep backpedaling with his case on bob, which was fairly poor in the first place.

Officially off V/LA.

must i parrot, god?

C-worl wagon was started by me as an RVS vote, afterwards, i felt the vote was pointless, however, when he changed his attitude from troll to town tool, it bothered me and i put my vote back on him.

people wondered "i thot you said it was POINTLEZZ to vote him!?!?!?" and i respond "no, i think after being pressured with votes and his sudden flip on how he plays is bullshit and is playing a survivable game."

Couple of shit happens, and i vote DK, i wanted to believe the man was just a VI (and he was) but he did alot of scummy stuff you can't just mark-off as "VI."

my last vote was just for a wagon, simple as that, i didn't pay attention to what was going on but whatever.

I know it's poor, i know it's backpedal, but people keep asking me to give something and i thought "eh, i'll throw a bone to them and make that bobsnox case." i'm glad i did, as i said, amrun added some information to it which makes me feel better about it, but that's a parrot, and i keep parroting, and i hate parroting, sqwak.

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me, myself, and i.

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Let's do this, chaps.

I claim Carbunkl, Town Doctor, but now, i will be evidently useless as i'm revealed.

let me say one thing: the arrogance of people in this game is astounding, and this is not a coordinated town, we're set up to fail if we all just join bandwagons for the sake of "moving the game" even if i myself have done it before.

there also a bunch of other problems but i digress as playing armchair is not my forte either.

Vezok, i'm kinda mad at you, i protected you as you claimed cop, but you were a commuter >:/

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A one with hardly any good reads or any use to protect a player.

reck woulda been a good option but then he went and claimed 'mason' and i went "fuck that."

i should protected DK, but he's so useless alive or not. >_>

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i'm Carbunkl from "Final Fantasy XI"

google that.

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I don't think i can technically 'save' a commuter, therefore i was mad i wasted it; stupid dk.

Guys, Carbuncle was doc in SEMG. Do you really think that Kise would use it after KDub so quickly?

if it works, it works, i've played games that had second appearances of the same role, flavor or no flavor, that's wifom as everybody is saying.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Diddin

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Trying to disprove a doc claim because of a name being re-used is entirely stupid and just trying to out guess the mod.

In SEMG Nero Cain claimed Umaro, who had already been used in a past SE game.

HE WAS SCUM.

i forgot to reply to this.

uhhh..cool?

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lazy docs*

also @Hiraki

Hmmmzorz...

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Vezok, i'm kinda mad at you, i

protected

you as you claimed cop, but you were a commuter >:/

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hey bob, i have alot more experience then you think i do, let's just say that.

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and no that would be fucking stupid for a mod to say "BTW THERE'S A DOC IN THIS GAME LOL"

they might provide a safe-claim, but they wouldn't blatantly do something like that.

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>implying i haven't fakeclaimed as town

00's band mafia, look it up.

but suffice to say doing that again wouldn't give the same results.

and no, i was appalled when he said "i don't think para knows how to safe-claim doc" so i was just saying if i was scum i could trick the living shit out of him.

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>implying i'm bragging.

no, i don't like you counting me of as a noob, when half of this fucking roster don't have a brain.

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>implying i'm bragging.

no, i don't like you counting me of as a noob, when half of this fucking roster don't have a brain.

I'm definitely going to consider you a poor player if you flip doc after this nonsense. Is that cool with you?

Do you really think i would state an obligatory statement like that if i was scum? how stupid would it be for me to go "haha jk guys i'm safeclaiming?"

i would never do that, especially after i claimed doc, it wouldn't make any sense.

by the way, when i flip doc, you and your scum buds can go fuck yourself. >_>

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and another thing, half of this roster still doesn't have a fucking brain, i haven't seen anything pro-active or even worth playing for.

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yes, either lynch me, or lynch diddin, either way works for me.

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to prove a point?

bob and mora's vote like that are shit.

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no bob, just frustrated.

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It's better to wait for a claim, we have plenty of time and it doesn't hurt to wait, anyone wanting to lynch him now while he is V/LA are cunts.

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request replacement

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taking back replacement, i'm just gonna go

V/LA

for a bit.

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Random vote.

VOTE: DeathNote

/totallynotdoingshitanymore.

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responding
to
prod

k read today but i'm gonna read yesterday also.

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man, after all this time i still want bob dead. too bad i can't vote him.

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Protected Hiraki last night, go me i guess?

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still Bobsnox. >_>

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I'm still claiming MVP in this game, since bobsnox was going to be my next targeted wagon.

i had him as scum all game.