ASOIAF: Test of Faith Mafia (Game Over!)
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VOTE: MagnaofIllusion
I want to save him the indignity of dying N1.-
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I've played two games with DGB. In both games, I kept waiting for her to bust out a long post that was well thought out and I could follow. Instead, all I got was lists of people sorted into town and scum groups, and occasional one liners.
In both these games she was town.
Ergo, DGB posting coherent thoughtful posts that I agree with is a scumtell.
UNVOTE: MagnaofIllusion
VOTE: DrippingGoofball-
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AlmasterGM wrote:Scum.
I agree with you.
But if you think Maemuki is scum, and Maemuki is voting SaintKerrigan, why are you still voting SaintKerrigan?-
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AlmasterGM wrote:I forgot, scum never vote for scum.
Analyzing interactions based off a single post is a fail.
Sarcasm is a scummy defense.
So is it you think Maemuki is bussing, or do you have a stronger scumread on SaintKerrigan than you do on Maemuki?-
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AlmasterGM wrote:But if I'm scum, how can you agree with me that Maemuki is scum?
^^^this is the (god-awful) argument you are making.
For the same reason that I can find someone scummy yet still think they're town.
Please answer the question I asked, re: Maemuki bussing or SaintKerrigan scummier.-
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Bilbo Baggins wrote:
I don't like your line of thinking, just because it takes responsiblity away from you. Like "oh DGB-meta this, DGB-meta not that, therefore DGB scum" so you're not really involved at all. Idk, that vote just reads scummy for miles.
The One Ring has decimated your sense of humor, I see.
Can you get on with dayvigging scum so I can get on with sheeping you?
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Each game, I find I love Thor more.
I have no useful ingame comments, just a song in my heart that yearns to be free.-
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Almaster, if you think I'm scum, you should vote me.
I'm not going to vote for SK. I don't care if her next post in the thread is "LULZ GAIZ IM THE GODFATHER." Why am I not going to vote for her? Because I *can*.
I might vote for MagnaofIllusion. My first vote on him was pure RVS, but I haven't liked what I've read. So that's 2/2 I'm batting on doing scummy things you don't like.
Then again: You think MagnaofIllusion is town. MagnaofIllusion thinks DGB is scum. (I happen to agree, self interest and all here.) Do you think Magna is wrong? Misinformed?-
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AlmasterGM wrote:I honestly do not remember you being so dense in any of the other games I've seen you in.
People keep saying this about me, yet FMPOV I've done nothing differently. Amusing.
Also: If you think I'm scummy, or my posts are scummy, vote for me.
Or explode. One of the two.-
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Hinduragi wrote:Pedit: Magua, I'd like to hear what your meta is playstyle-wise.
Self metas suck and cannot be trusted. But, to answer your question: To play stupider than the last time someone played with me.
AlmasterGM wrote:No.
But, this is definitely scum talking. The whole forced "either vote for me or stop talking about me" thing. I can call you scum just fine without the vote. And you should like being under the magnifying glass, no?
Oh ho ho. Talk about me all you want. The problem is, you're not talking about me. I asked you straight up if you thought Maemuki was bussing or if SK was just a stronger scumread; instead of answering it, you got sarcastically defensive. So I pushed for an answer on that again. Each time, your scumread on me increased, apparently for the sole reason that I'm asking you what you think of more than one person and asking you to compare the scumminess of this person to that person. That's terribad.-
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AlmasterGM wrote:
Because it was a stupid question. Answer this - It's been less than 5 pages and Maemuki has made one post. Do you really think that is enough content to generate an opinion on whether she is or is not bussing? Moreover, why does it even matter? If they're both acting scummy, why can't I just call them both scum?
It didn't matter until you started calling me scum because I wanted you to answer the question.
I mean, if you're the type who's willing to call Maemuki scum for one post, which, according to this thread, both you and I are, then why is it such a goddamn hurdle to come up with an opinion as to whether she's bussing or not? Or you could've just brushed the question away with "SK is scummier." But you did neither, you went defensive and you went sarcastic.
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And yes, that is why my scumread on you is increasing. Because you are getting really hung up on this one particular interaction when, in reality, it shouldn't be a big deal at all. Which makes me think you have a vested interest in seeing it go a particular direction.
So how much more does it need to increase before you vote me?
The MoI/LMP/LB Ménage à trois is disturbing to read, and kind of pointless as well. I've already gotten to the point where LMP's and MoI's posts are too long and too point-by-point for me to care about reading them. LB's are equally disturbing/pointless, but at least mercifully shorter.-
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MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Why is it pointless? Have you absolutely determined our aligment? Do tell.
It's pointless because it's noise. It's a 3,000 word version of, "No, you're the scum." Actually, it's worse, because it's 100 words of LMP or LB saying, "You're the scum" and then you say "No you're the scum" and then another 100 words quoting someone saying "You're the scum" and then you say "No you're the scum."
MagnaofIllusion wrote:
Also … you didn’t answer this. Please do so –
Roll that forward one iteration
1. You agree with AGM that Maemuki is scum.
2. Why are you still voting DGB? Do you have a stronger scum-read on DGB than Mae?
You're right. I didn't answer it because I stopped reading your posts.
Because I wanted to see if anyone would join on the DGB wagon -- particularly whether anyone else would want to be associated with the wagon that you were on instead of joining the SK/MoI wagons.
Now that you've left, that's pretty unlikely. So:
UNVOTE: DrippingGoofball
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DrippingGoofball wrote:
What would you have concluded if my wagon had gotten sails?
What have you concluded given that the MoI wagon has swollen?
And how does not reading MoI's posts fit into that scheme?
In general, the faster a wagon grows in size, the less likely I believe that the person being wagoned is scum. You, especially, tend to gain a small wagon D1, and I wanted to see if that would happen again.
Not reading MoI's posts is because I couldn't be arsed once him/LMP/LB degenerated into noise.-
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DrippingGoofball wrote:Nah. The fastest D1 wagon I've ever seen had 3 scumpals bus'ing zwet like there was no tomorrow.
Yeah. And busses like that tend to fool me, and I end up looking like crap because I defend the person and then they get lynched and D2 everyone's like "lolpartner." But I tend to not care because a D1 scum lynch and a D2 me lynch is really good for town regardless.
DrippingGoofball wrote:And how do you define "fast?" Maybe the scum is really obvscum. Maybe there is a lot of activity in the thread. These are things that make it hard to define "fast." And how about the current STALL on the MoI wagon? Where does a stall fit in? It goes fast (by your definition) then it sputters. Does your belief that the person being wagon is more or less scum, after a stall (let's not inject in the particulars of current wagonees, I'm just trying to show that the theory behind your position is untenable).
Seriously, where have you been with this ability to put forth an articulate argument? This is the exact sort of thing I wanted to get out of you in ASoS, and there all I get is "hasdgfas, please get yourself modkilled" and "town list/scum list".
Of the three of MoI/LB/LMP, I find LMP to be the most suspect and the one I would most want to lynch.
However, I don't want a lynch yet.
As for the rest of it: I'm done talking about what I get out of what I do.
I think Maemuki is scummy. Do you think she's town, scummy, or null?-
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DrippingGoofball wrote:Was I not right???? My argument was clearly beyond your diminutive comprehension, that is all.
I never questioned you being right in ASoS. What I'm questioning is why your well-reasoned, cogent argument was beyond my diminutive comprehension in ASoS, and yet why you are so selfless to step through the baby steps so that my unworthy mind can understand your will in this game.-
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Maemuki wrote:Whoa, amazing how I managed to gather 3 votes with...yeah, one post. I have a gift for this. Anyway, the only thing I find defendable in the cases of the people who voted for me is this: ...uh, nope, can't find a thing other than "obv scum is scum". Amazing.
This is fluff.
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However, I can't help but notice that everybody has me on their scumlist somewhere. While this is not scummy for the most part, it is when people ignore the rest of the game. So, Magua. What's your opinion on the top 2 wagons?
I have no opinion on SaintKerrigan; total nullread.
I would prefer to lynch LMP than MoI; it's not that MoI looks townier, it's that LMP looks scummier.-
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Setael wrote:Magua is scum. States he might vote MOI because he hasn't liked what he's read,
The amazing thing, that I've found, about this game, is that I change my mind as things happen. When I said I might vote MoI, that was before the herpderpfest that was pages 8 through 11. When I said I'm not reading Magna's, LMP's, or LB's posts, that was during the herpderpfest of pages 8 through 11.
Though now that I'm here, I'll add that I'm not reading Andrius' wallpost either.
Your post, Setael, I read, because it was not a back and forth quote-striping contest, which I appreciate. You're wrong on me, but that's a forgivable thing -- at least you can post your stance in less than encyclopedic form.-
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Empking wrote:I can agree with that. I'd also say that he's more likely to be the CR which I presume is the biggest threat.
Unvote, Vote: Magua
I'm extremely curious: Why am I more likely to be the cult recruiter than cult or mafia?-
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Benmage wrote:Uhmmm why he's L-1...unvote someone.
Benmage wrote:Nvm, I handled it. Going to work. I'll bbl, enjoy.
So, yeah. Bilbo calling me the cult recruiter and not voting me is very odd. His follow up defense ("lynch him D2") isn't the place where warm fuzzies go. However, I'm not seeing the scum motivation for saying it either, from either a scum or cult mindset. So I've tossed it into the "weird but not actionable" bucket.
After several long hours of analysis, I've determined I simply hate Empking's posting style with a passion. In my mind, reading his posts, they always come across in a Ben Stein monotone. Still, slight townread on him. I read his posts as reaction testing, which lord knows, I'm a fan of.
God help me, DGB makes sense with every single post she makes. This is freaking me out more than you could possibly imagine.-
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LynchMePls wrote:It's not odd at all and the explanation makes perfect sense. The mod explicitly said cult cannot recruit until N2.
That's assuming he has 100% perfect knowledge that I'm the cult recruiter.
I mean, if the goal is to lynch the cult recruiter, you lynch your strongest suspect. They flip town, you can then look for your second strongest suspect with the additional lynch/nk information.-
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Nexus is town.
Everyone's way-the-hell-overreacting.-
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Lost Butterfly wrote:
Hey Magua! Is Hinduragi town?
He's null-to-scum. Fine, rational, hasn't really taken a stance that puts him outside of the mainstream yet. Gutread says "playing it safe" which results in mild scumminess.
AlmasterGM wrote:
For why he's scummy - read the thread. He's obviously just as, if not more scummy than MoI, and pretty much nobody disputes this (most of the arguments are things like, "he's CR and less of a threat").
Bilbo Baggins is the only saying that I'm the cult recruiter and should be ignored until D2. I like your use of "arguments", plural, though.
AlmasterGM wrote:
As for why he should be lynched OVER MoI - 1) MoI is a strong town player, whereas Magua is relatively useless. If we mislynch MoI it's a pretty big shot in the foot, whereas lynching Magua doesn't hurt us that much.
AlmasterGM wrote:
2) There are lots more interactions surrounding Magua in the early game (specifically with Maemuki and SaintKerrigan), whereas MoI is being called out on this one isolated post.
So my interactions with two people (one of whom I think is scum) is "lots more" than the interactions people have had with MoI?
That seems...incorrect.
Now, I think the MoI is not the best lynch, or I would've hammered him. But your point here bears little actual resemblance to the truth, and seems smushed to fit into a hole rather than being a natural fit. If you think MoI is town, and don't want to see him lynched because of that, that's fine; I can dig that. But trying to upplay my lynch by saying I have "lots more interactions" than MoI does is just patently false.-
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@Mod:Locke Lamora is voting me, not Nexus
Locke Lamora wrote:
-Magua seems like he's spending a whole lot more time explaining why lynches aren't a good idea than he does actually pushing lynches of his own.
Not true. Maemuki lynch would be just wonderful, as Maemuki is actually scum.
Corrected - ooba-
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You know what would've been awesome? Being able to ask Magna if there was a reason why he thought his flip would be fucked with instead of saying "omgjanitorhemustbescumderp".
I'm glad that Kast died.
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Empking wrote:Didn't we all say that we wanted to get rid of Magua before he had as chance to recruit?
I don't recall ever saying that.
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Faramina. Please to be voting Maemuki so everyone who's so opportunistically sheeping you will follow.-
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AlmasterGM wrote:Vote: Magua
Should happened YESTERDAY. MMMMM.
Will also vote SaintKerrigan. But Magua should die first.
*snores*
Let the dance begin.
So SaintKerrigan is scum. But I'm *more* scum?
Am I scum with SaintKerrigan? Or are we different scum?-
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AlmasterGM wrote:Why are you so obsessed with the whole "who is scum with who" thing. I've never seen someone so obsessed with interactions before. Who cares. There are scum and cult in this game. It's D2. We lynch scummy people. Town wins. The end.
I find that getting insight into other people's viewpoints is useful for determining if they're town.
In this particular case, because I'm curious why you say "SK is scum. Vote: Magua."-
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AlmasterGM wrote:Because back when I posted that SK was the counterwagon. Which is why it says SK. But now that it's a fresh day and I can have my pick, it's you.
So your post that begins "Also, this is now even more true:" and goes on that SK is scum is less true?
I mean, aside from the part of that post where you say "Thus, I'm maintaining MoI is not the lynch for today." and then you went on to hammer him. That part is obviously far less true.-
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AlmasterGM wrote:Also, I read over some of your other games, and I realized I was right in my thinking when I came into this game - in the queue thread, everyone was like, "lol Magua sucks," but I never remembered you sucking. Maybe you were never the best scumhunter ever, but your play was always pretty reasonable. In this game, though, it's just been all 100% WOOSH - minimal scumhunting, saying things that don't make logical sense, and getting all caught up in these technicalities. It's a clear break from how you usually play. It is le scummy.
Alright. Let's try this on for size, shall we?
You start by assuming MoI is town and SK is scum. Fine.
You go on to say then that those who aren't on either wagon are avoiding the top two wagons. The only possible insinuation here is that we're partners with SK; after all, if you assume that SK is mafia or cult, and we are of the opposite group, we'd have no reason to avoid the wagon. But you never come out and say this, nor do you ever expound on it.
Fact of the matter is, I didn't vote MoI because I found the case against him to be garbage, and there were people who were genuinely scummier -- Maemuki and LynchMePls. Magna got lynched, essentially, because he was "raging" and because he "never rages as town." The bullshitness of the case is obvious, now, but as is usual, no one seems to be going on and adjusting their reads in light of this occurring, beyond the up-and-coming-expected argument of "Thor's defending his buddy Magna" becoming "Thor's defending Magna for towncred"
This isn't a goddamn game of darts where you just throw shit against the wall and see what sticks where. I ask you because you were voting SK yesterday, and now you're not, and what changed in the meantime? Was it that you always had a scumread on me but you couldn't push the wagon? Or was it just that SK was more convenient, already having votes on her? Get this through your head:That question is not a "technicality", and the answer you give is important to me.
I don't care what you think about my playstyle or my meta. I don't care if you think I'm playing poorly or not scumhunting. I don't care (but am amused by the fact) that you don't seem to comprehend the difference between pregame banter and actual ingame play. What I do care about is this: I know what information I'm looking for, and it costs you nothing to answer it. So, for once, just fucking answer the goddamn question when I fucking ask you. You can vote me all you want.
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SpyreX wrote:Ok, so if you think AGM is a 7 (i.e. more likely than town than not) then why so much slapfighting?
Lets hold hands and move ahead to an awesomer world.
His refusal to answer questions and his twice ad hominem'ing me make me wary. Particularly the second "you play much better as town" argument from #513, considering that was a major portion of the argument leading up to the MoI lynch (though that part of the argument didn't come from AGM).-
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Bilbo Baggins wrote:This is a complete sidestepping of the issue at hand; I don't need Magua to vote LMP, but issue-full-of-tension-is-here-I-just-be-cool-and-ignoring-it-and-let-something-else-spark-it is here.
I assume I'm addressing Plum here. I'm sad if that was Andrius.
I saw no reason to comment on a page 1 bandwagon that was random mob pilings on without a reason. I could've said exactly that, but I figured it went without saying.
Bilbo Baggins wrote:This would read all nice and take-a-chill-pill-Andy-we-are-cool-are-we-not. If it made any sense whatsoever. If I'm not accused of being humorless, it might make sense if, for instance, Magua were voting with us or even agreeing with us on some game point as opposed to still voting DGB for make-joke-ohwait-make-wagonalysis reasons.
The quote about you dayvigging and me sheeping you after was directed to Andrius and is an ASoS reference, has everything to do with pregame banter, and had nothing to do with current game state. Ask Andrius about it.
Bilbo Baggins wrote:Magua wrote:Hinduragi wrote:Pedit: Magua, I'd like to hear what your meta is playstyle-wise.
Self metas suck and cannot be trusted. But, to answer your question: To play stupider than the last time someone played with me.
If so this is the first time I've seen you play to this professed meta.
I don't normally include a quote tree, but I had to here for completeness.
For god's sake, if you don't have a sense of humor, ask someone who does. Did you seriously read this and say, "Well, that's an odd meta to play to, but ok, I guess."
Unrelatedly:
I think Benmage/Thor squabbling is town-on-town.
I have a big ol' OMGUS in my heart for everyone who's mouthed the words "X is the cult recruiter". That's Bilbo Baggins, Empking, and vezokpiraka. Reading back, I find Empking's #488 to be saddening:
Empking wrote:Didn't we all say that we wanted to get rid of Magua before he had as chance to recruit?
At first, I read this as a pure pressure post, as I'd had a null-to-town read on him. Now, I just find it to be fluff.
But, despite the CR talk, I'm going to
UNVOTE: Espeonage
VOTE: Locke Lamora
There's been no massclaim. There's no set up line of lynches. Please to be providing more than "I'mma sheep Faraday."-
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Thor665 wrote:So where do you think my vote should be to be helpful? Vezo?
Locke Lamora.
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Benmage wrote:But how can a vezo policy lynch ever be wrong? Plus her votes this game have been horrid/screamed scummy.
As opposed to every other game vezok has ever been in.
vezok-scum implies SK-not-partner. Do you agree? If you were so hot for a vezok PL, why did you not push it D1?-
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hasdgfas wrote:refresh my memory. What's the reasoning?
D1 isn't too bad. D2 is "Guiz I'm busy I'mma sheep Faraday" and then nothing.
In ASoS LL complained about the townlist after massclaim and how the game was "on rails". As neither of these are the case here, I'm curious as to what his response will be.-
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AlmasterGM wrote:
And check out how, ONCE AGAIN, the same people as yesterday are responsible for the stall.
Oooooh. I see what the problem is.
See, here, I was thinking that voting someone and them saying, "I'mma post tonight" and then waiting for that post was, y'know, a good idea.
But now I see that that's stalling. And the opposite of stalling is to hammer someone who turns out to be town before they can explain whatever crazy shit was flowing out of their mouth.
Got it.
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Less pissy: If you think that scum were crowding off the MoI and SK wagons, and MoI flipped town, and now you think scum are crowding off the SK wagon, then why are you not considering SK-non-scum?
After all, if it was SK scum vs MoI town, you'd imagine that some of the scum would be pushing MoI.-
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Empking wrote:Scum don't want to be caught saving their buddy.
Seeing as there's been zero suspicion on anyone who was on the MoI wagon, that hardly seems like it'd even be a concern.-
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Empking wrote:Yes but until we revealled we knew that we were onto them then they didn't know that.
Empking wrote:Plus, we have to wait for SK to flip first.
Enlighten me as to how that's going to affect anything, because as far as I can see:
SK flips scum: "OMG people who were off the SK wagon are her buddies protecting her"
SK flips town: "OMG people who were off the SK wagon are scum stalling the game"-
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SaintKerrigan wrote:Hascow is obvscum. There may also be scum among the rest of those names mentioned.
If hascow is obvscum, why are you voting Espeonage?
Also, look at me not hammer SaintKerrigan.
Locke Lamora wrote:-Magua invoking ASoS for my past play really pings my scumdar. He's taking a single situation from my past townplay and then using it to justify an attack on me for shipping Faraday and then not posting, when I quite clearly haven't been around for a few days (and if he'd checked, he'd know that).
This does not warm the black embers of my heart.
Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to make DGB a cake.
UNVOTE: Locke Lamora
VOTE: hasdgfas-
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Thor665 wrote:ooba wrote:vezokpiraka (1)- Benmage
Empking (1)- hasdgfas
hasdgfas (1)- Magua
Not Voting (3)- Nexus, Setael, Hinduragi
Since apparently none of you actually care wht your vote does - might as well sheep onto the Espeo wagon. We have cushy seats.
I am expecting DGB to come to the hasdgfas wagon, as I made her a cake.
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hasdgfas wrote:Um, hello?
What exactly am I supposed to say in response to people just voting for me but not explaining why? Unless I missed some explanation in Hind's post.
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Because of Benmage specifically?
Were you ever for the hasdgfas wagon?-
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Locke Lamora wrote:Have you met Vezok before, SK?
I'd wagon Benmage with you, Thor. I haven't seen anything that makes me think SK isn't scum, though, and at the end of the day, a botched claim is a botched claim. I don't even know if I've seen that from town, and I can recall a number of instances off the top of my head where I've seen it from scum (and that includes myself).
I've seen town claim the role name in the OP rather than their own, and I've not played that many games on this site.
Now, as near as I can tell, SK got wagoned D1 for the same justifications that MoI did -- that is, incredibly bad ones. Fine, whatever. But all of the people who are going, "Well, should've gone with the SK wagon D1" instead of trying to use the additional information we have are being lazy and antitown.
I'm not claiming that the hasdgfas wagon is founded on anything concrete. It's built on the same swamp. But it's 10,000 times more useful to see who's willing to join the hasdgfas wagon, who's willing to support the hasdgfas wagon over the SK wagon, and who clings to the SK wagon and for what reasons, than it is to simply lynch SK at this point.-
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Empking wrote:The problem is that scum knows that SK is caught scum. This means the silly Has thing will just be played by the mafia in order to 6trick us because its not a real alternative.
Illuminate me. Remember, I'm stupid, so I don't grasp your intricacies. Feel free to start with the fact that if you believe SK's claim is a slip, it means that SK is cult, since R'hllor (cult) is the one who deals with souls and Old Faith (mafia) do not.-
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Empking, do you ever, at all, go back to your original thinking and say, "I was wrong at step 1 and step 2, maybe step 3 is suspect too?"
I'm just curious.
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Empking wrote:Magua wrote:Empking, do you ever, at all, go back to your original thinking and say, "I was wrong at step 1 and step 2, maybe step 3 is suspect too?"
Yes. What steps are you talking about?
Your "SK is obv scum because there's no way town could mess up their claim like that."
Your "Scum jumped from the SK wagon to the MoI / scum avoided the SK wagon altogether D1 to protect their buddy"
Your "Scum bussed SK D2 because she was scum going down"
Your complete lack of "Given that SK was town and my theories about why people were and were not on the SK wagon were all voided, I should go back and rethink things", instead just going with, "Well, we all decided Magua was cult recruiter, let's lynch him"
I accept that you simply don't bother to expound on your reasoning, but it seems to me like there's no actual reasoning going on here.
@Thor:How is Benmage coasting along, but hasdgfas isn't?
AlmasterGM is just so hardcore derping it hurts.-
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Empking wrote:When did I say the last point?
Post #844:Empking wrote:The problem is that scum knows that SK is caught scum. This means the silly Has thing will just be played by the mafia in order to 6trick us because its not a real alternative.
Empking wrote:But you being a CR is completely unrelated to SK's flip?
Given MoI and SK both being town, do you think I'm the cult recruiter?
Hell, do you think I'm scum?-
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AlmasterGM wrote:plus the deathlist from yesterday
god so many people need death
Is this the deathlist of "the people who were off of the two leading wagons which both turned out to be town" or is it a different deathlist?
Going from your vote on me, I'm assuming it's the same one.
Faraday wrote:someone summarise what we both missed.
Town: Guess MoI wasn't scum, let's ignore that wagon and vote SK because she was wagoned page 3 D1 and that's a good enough reason for me!
Magua and AlmasterGM: You're scummy! Well, you're a moron! Well, you're still scummy! Well...
SpyreX: Children, don't make me turn this wagon around!
Town: We've wagoned SK hard, time to claim!
SK: Embodiment of the Souls! I mean, Embodiment of the Smith! Sorry about that!
Town: TROLOLOLOL SOULS == R'HOLLOR == DEATH.
I may have missed some stuff, but if you really cared you'd've read it anyways.
@Thor:I've never played with hasdgfas outside of ASoS. You think that Benmage-scum would be called out for coasting by you D2 and then continue to coast?-
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Thor665 wrote:@Magua - he was called out by me and called obv. town by multiple players. If i was scum I would keep doing *exactly* that. Seriously - iso that sucker, tell me you see scumhunting and pro-town work,
I see opportunistic voting, and lots of defense bantering with me, and nothing else.
I ISOed him, and I do not see scumhunting. But comparing this to the ASoS game, I didn't really see scumhunting from Benmage there, either -- in pretty much every case, Benmage went with the prevailing wagon of the Day (disallowing a Raivann or Bunnylover lynch D2, and governing Zdenek D6 (insert relevant emoticon here) is the only thing that sticks out in my mind as counter. The only difference I see so far is a lack of a screw-you-I'm-right attitude, for which I'm thankful.
SpyreX wrote:Are you REALLY trying to paint SK as a paragon of town that just got ran up all willy nilly and THEN fed themselves the rope and asked to be lynched?
SK was not a paragon of town, nor did I ever paint her as one. However, SK did get run up all willy nilly. I said this D1 and D2, so it's not really a new development.
SK asked to be lynched after she messed up her claim.
SpyreX wrote:I will never get how souls=smith in bad word mixup land and I have an estate there.
Do not like this part. It's quite obvious that's exactly what happened. Saying you "will never get" how something that actually happened happened rubs me the wrong way, like you're trying to overjustify not believing her about it D2.-
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Unrelated: Thor is scummy because he should be better than this.-
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SpyreX wrote:Ohhhh man ohh man
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 6#p3125786 <-- 630
That stupid business started before the claim.
You're right.
Does this change anything at all as far as you're concerned?-
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