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Post Post #69 (isolation #0) » Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:25 pm

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ZeL1nK wrote:Who should I vote for if I want to look more town?

Snarky?


SO MANY SCUM SO LITTLE TIME

VOTE: Ze1ink

Snarky: rolefishing on page 1. Needs rope.

Flavour Analysis: May also need rope. Trying very hard to look town but is dancing around Snarky. If Snarky is scum, I'll go after FA (and vice versa)

No one else making me twinge yet but that's probably because DK hasn't posted.

Inb4 vezok claims vanilla

P edit: Why is this happening? The fucking rolefishing in this game is astounding.

P edit 5 million: Fuck you spammers. I'm going to bed.
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Post Post #84 (isolation #1) » Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:37 pm

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Park your reads harder, FAscum. *rolls eyes*

You little shits were so busy being scummy that I forgot to say this:

I have loved Africa since I did a research project on Kenya in kindy.

Also I was obsessed with the Lion King.

I'm cooler than you all because I pre-/inned.

That is all.

P-edit: Yes, you are, FA. And there is some new content there, but some of what is happening is so obvious that rehashing can't be helped. This game is in easy mode right now.

OMG it's page 3 do not attack someone for limited content.

@ edit a million: Hmmm. Interested to see what happens here. Can't get a fucking post iin edgewise.
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Post Post #94 (isolation #2) » Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:44 pm

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Picking apart bad attacks =/= defense.

Elli is almost definitely town, though.

Every single attack of yours has had some token reason that aren't even scumtells.

That's not scumhunting.

Also like 1/3 of the playerlist hasn't even posted, so what the hell do you expect? A full reads list?
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Post Post #100 (isolation #3) » Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:50 pm

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How do I know what?

No, I am not glad Ellibreth bit you, but you are scummy, so it's okay.

And yes, I do.

P-edit: Omg, she obviously did.
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Post Post #178 (isolation #4) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:13 am

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Jily, if you are going to play games with adults, you must be accept some adult behavior. I'll consent to not detailing my sexual eploits in thread and such, not that I would do that anyway, but you will have to deal with the cussing.

FA needs to hang.

Elvis is town. <3

Inhim's obvious unwillingness to read is concerning.

Ze1link is still scummy, but my vote isn't doing any good there.

[Vote: Snarky



Also, Ranmaru (FA) is not a newbie, so don't treat them like one.


Lowell: if you lurk this game, I will consider it a scum claim.
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Post Post #190 (isolation #5) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:29 am

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inHimshallibe wrote:
CONCERNING!~@!~


Not reading the thread is a scumclaim. :cop:

And omg, claiming it was a joke now? NONONONO.

Vote: Flavour Analysis


P-edit: wtf? They're scummier than elliie and silavor, but you've pushed the latter all day and not even mentioned the former? Scuuuuuuum.
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Post Post #232 (isolation #6) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:11 am

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Zel1ink, your omgus amuses me. I am voting (or have at some point voted ) FA. How do I think (or know) FA is town? Interestingly that post implies that YOU know FA is town.

The sentence you quoted in no ways implies that I think or know FA is town. I wasn't happy Ellibreth (supposedly) daykilled so early without a claim or anything, but as I think FA is scumz, it wasn't that big of a deal.

Now, though, if you are scum, FA is town.

VOTE: Zel1ink

Fuck momentum. I'm voting scum.
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Post Post #250 (isolation #7) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:00 am

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Ellibereth wrote:I daycopped you and got scum mmkay?
Earworm, why you felt need to point out fakedaykill was probably fake btw?


I don't find earworm particularly scummy on his own, but if FA flips scum, there is a definite connection.
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Post Post #273 (isolation #8) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:58 pm

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Snarky: I think it's an obvious joke. Stop fishing.

DK: Earworm could have been coaching FA not to flip out.

Peregrine: Was your last post a joke? Seriously?
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Post Post #285 (isolation #9) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:07 pm

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Elvis posts make me inexplicably happy.
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Post Post #288 (isolation #10) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:20 pm

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Honestly? As far as VIs go, DK is pretty hard to read. For me, at least. Most of what he posts is incoherent babbling.

Snarky cannot possibly be serious... *prays; hopes*
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Post Post #290 (isolation #11) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:26 pm

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There is a point where DK's presence actively harms the town.

This is a standard game approach so we're probably okay.
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Post Post #292 (isolation #12) » Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:31 pm

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I am so down for PL on DK it's not even funny.

I can't say why now for obvious reasons, but he's probably going on my blacklist soon. I can't take it any more.
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Post Post #334 (isolation #13) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:59 am

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Flavour Analysis wrote:First thing is first. Fate, answer our damn questions. You seem to be ok to attack my playstyle and my skill, but you don’t even answer my IN-GAME CONTENT QUESTIONS. I’m trying to develop my read on you, and you won’t let me. That is anti-town. AND DON’T EVEN SAY I AM POINTING OUT POINTLESS SHIT.


I agree with this; Fate, please answer the questions.

Flavour Analysis wrote:Amrun posts crap content. Repeats about rolefishing. Insists that Earworm is buddies with me, only if I flip scum first. She says this only because I said Earworm was scummy.


That is not even remotely what I said. Nice misrep.

Flavour Analysis wrote:@
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: How do you feel about Pappum's vote on you? What is your current read on Earworm?


I don't feel anything about pappum's vote on me. I don't even recall it, tbh. My read on earworm at the time I posted the thing you take issue with - the thing you obviously don't even remotely understand - was townish. Now, with him pushing a really bad non-slip pointed out by silavor, I have him as scummy.

It's one thing to point out and push a bad, null-nothing slip - it's still scummy, but town does it too, sometimes - it's entirely another to push a bad slip someone else pointed out. I don't like it at all.

Slip-hunting is scum's number 1 tool to look like they are scumhunting.


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@FA: I think Amrum is scum basically because of what ZeL1nK said about him is his ISO 12 (except the #100 thing which is just a misrep). Let's add to this Amrum's blatant OMGUS vote on ZeL1nK on his ISO 6 (he even calls ZeL1nK for OMGUS, which is totally false!?) and his unjustified buddying with elvis. He does not seem to be scumhunting and follows the flow. Really bad feeling about him.


Cute, cute. It's OMGUS when I was voting for him before he ever voted me? Besides, one instance OMGUS by itself is not a scumtell, even though I accused Zel of doing it (which he did, in my opinion).

Also, I just like elvis as a person. She is a cool cat, and she joined this game because I cried out that the kitties must have their time to play. If I thought she was scum, I would be all over her (with sadness). I had her as a suspect in SpyreX's Dynasty Warriors game, for example, though I was not as familiar with her then.

In this game, she is the only one talking sense, so it's a breath of fresh air. She is, for example, explaining what I said about FA because she apparently has more interest in this game than I do. I said something like FA gives token little reasons for her votes and that's why she's scum and elvis took the time to explain why that was scummy when she noticed it independently of me - ie, she is seeing the same things I do, which is a humongous towntell in my book.

ckd: I skimmed them, yes, but my read has since changed.
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Post Post #336 (isolation #14) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:06 am

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It really isn't a big issue, to me. And in fact, I forgot to unvote you.

UNVOTE: ZeL1nk

VOTE: Flavour Analysis
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Post Post #348 (isolation #15) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:42 am

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Snarky wrote:
Amrun wrote:
Flavour Analysis wrote:Amrun posts crap content. Repeats about rolefishing. Insists that Earworm is buddies with me, only if I flip scum first. She says this only because I said Earworm was scummy.


That is not even remotely what I said. Nice misrep.



I hate it when people says it's a misrep without explaining what the misrep is. Maybe the last sentence is a misrep, I agree with you. What about the rest of the post?


Fine. I don't post crap content. I do say rolefishing, but if there is rolefishing afoot, it isn't pro-town to explain why it's rolefishing. I said that I would look harder at earworm if FA flips scum, not "insisting" anything at all, and I said it for an entirely unrelated reason than what was said above.

Snarky wrote:

Amrun wrote:It really isn't a big issue, to me. And in fact, I forgot to unvote you.

UNVOTE: ZeL1nk

VOTE: Flavour Analysis


And now you're backtracking... Weird, for in your post 6 you said "Fuck momentum, I'm voting scum", thus you must have had strong reasons to beleive he was scum, but now it isn't a big issue anymore :roll:


At the time, I thought it was a more serious issue. Then, I realized he was taking issue with the word "scummy" vs "scum" and it ceased to be an issue because I could follow that thought process. And his posting since then has made me feel better about the slot in general. However, a couple of things about it still bother me, but not enough to have my vote on it over others.

FA over Earworm because FA has done a ton of scummy things and Earworm has really only done one thing I take true issue with.

You could be asking, "Why FA over me?" You're still scum. The rolefishing must END. We won't do your pr-hunting for you.

p-rat, I am sorry for your loss.
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Post Post #356 (isolation #16) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:03 am

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Peregrine: So is not posting much a scumtell?
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Post Post #361 (isolation #17) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:13 am

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PeregrineV wrote:
Amrun wrote:Peregrine: So is not posting much a scumtell?


It depends. Last game I was in with Lowell, yes it was. With PRat, obviously not.


Do you think that is something he does in any alignment?

(Hint: it is.)

Why would you base calling someone scum in this game based off of 1-game meta in another game (Cold War)? Do you think that is a sufficient reason to suspect someone?
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Post Post #366 (isolation #18) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:28 am

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WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU CLAIM RIGHT NOW
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Post Post #370 (isolation #19) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:32 am

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I can't take it. I can't.

VOTE: DeityKabuto
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Post Post #374 (isolation #20) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:36 am

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I've done more in this game than you, DK. Far more.

I've had it with you and you make every game you're in horrible and not fun and I really want to enjoy the games I'm playing.
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Post Post #376 (isolation #21) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:38 am

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;LKAJD;FAKLDSJF;LAKSD
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Post Post #384 (isolation #22) » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:39 am

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If it's based off of meta, then yes, I do have a minimum criteria.
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Post Post #431 (isolation #23) » Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:57 am

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elvis_knits wrote:
elvis_knits wrote:So at this point, I have decided that we need a silavor wagon.


For anyone who missed this, consider it your invitation to join the party.

I agree with your stated reasoning (not so muh about the earworm part), but what I am most interested in is his flailscum reaction.

Caught for the wrong reasons temper tantrum? What will more votes bring?

VOTE: Silavor
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Post Post #435 (isolation #24) » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:19 am

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Tajo: I think Silavor thinks he's caught for the wrong reasons, not that the reasons are actually wrong. Most scumbags do.
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Post Post #474 (isolation #25) » Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:07 pm

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Ckd -

I believe I have talked about several different things that fa has done that I take issue with. I could go through pbp, but I won't because I don't feel good and I've been dizzy for a couple of hours and idk why. I did not take into account post volume but I feel it's irrelevant anyway.

My vote on DK was not because DK is scummy. DK is probably town. He just ruins every game he's in and he's definitely for sure unsafe to take to lylo. I voted for him in a fit of rage. If there is no vig, we should prbably PL him tomorrow.

Don't care if you dislike my silavor vote; I like it.
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Post Post #478 (isolation #26) » Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:29 pm

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FA: So, answering other people's questions to me is providing crap content? GOOD TO KNOW.

And sure I will keep an eye on elvis. I'll keep an eye on everyone. But I'm not interested in lynching her today.
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Post Post #481 (isolation #27) » Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:57 pm

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No, OMGUS by itself is not a scumtell. If it becomes a trend and one's only suspects are OMGUS, then it can be a scumtell.

And ps clarifying vague claims is both anti-town and rolefishing.
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Post Post #492 (isolation #28) » Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:38 am

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I don't actually care if you "buy it" or not. It's self-explanatory.

His more recent posts have felt more genuine, but the issues I had with his earlier posts still exist - and the one that sticks in my craw the most was something like "What do I do to look town?". I can't summon any pro-town motivation for that whatsoever.

The OMGUS thing was because I had previously suspected him before he suspected me - which, again, is not really that relevant and continually dragging it up is just noise.
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Post Post #505 (isolation #29) » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:12 am

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No one's facts are mixed up except yours, silavor.

Do you suspect Snarky, sil? Why?
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Post Post #510 (isolation #30) » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:42 am

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Silavor, WHY do you suspect Snarky?
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Post Post #531 (isolation #31) » Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:00 pm

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Aw, grey, you hate me now? :(
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Post Post #533 (isolation #32) » Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:08 pm

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No, I suppose, but I do have townreads on the wagon.

Snarky's presence on it upsets me a bit, though.
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Post Post #535 (isolation #33) » Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:19 pm

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If Grey is scum, snarky is town.

And snarky can't be town. He just can't.

Tbh, I don't remember why we stopped wagoning snarky. Silavor was shinier I guess.
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Post Post #538 (isolation #34) » Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:57 pm

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VOTE: Snarky

We're doing this we're making it happen!
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Post Post #575 (isolation #35) » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:48 am

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Okay so I cannot be the only one having serious issues with both pacman's and silavor's wallposts. They're terrible.

Pacman seriously listed three popular suspicion and one unpopular suspicion and phrased it exactly like that - and his minor suspicion on Atiliysian has no reasoning but promises future fabricated reasoning. That's how it reads to me: LThis is how to look townie: suspect someone few other people do and provide unique reasoning, check, share some suspects with a chunk of the playerlist, check.". Uhhhhh.... I see where elvis is going with her pacmantown reasoning, but I can't get over his scumposting. If we kill scum and it flips human, pacman must die immediately -i but not flipping human doesn't cllear him, imho.

Silavor is trying to earn brownie points, too little too late. He's distancing himself from his own previous posting by calling it "stupidposting" and may even be going as far as to it was all a reactionfishing gambit. Silavor, was your stupidposting intentional?

Also note how his two "reads" that he came under fire for previously, earworm and snarky, are now miraculously townreads.

Do. NotM 1ant.

VOTE: silavor

Also, elvis, pissing people off is mmy favorite pasttime.:wink:
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Post Post #583 (isolation #36) » Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:17 am

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Looool

>Post like scum all game
>Get wagoned
>LOLREACTIONFISHING
>???
>Profit
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Post Post #596 (isolation #37) » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:16 am

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Here's a simple question, Cirno: Why?
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Post Post #607 (isolation #38) » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:14 pm

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Pacman, silavor's defense has been IMPRESSIVE to you?! What?

FA, how the hell are they cleared?
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Post Post #615 (isolation #39) » Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:29 pm

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I was never under the illusion that DK was scum, which makes me sad. I so wish, wish wish wish, he was, so I could lynch him without any guilty conscience. But he is probably town.

He's on my blacklist and I will be avoiding all games with him in like wildfire in the future, but the official blacklisting happened after this game began (and also I pre-/inned here and really wanted to play).
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Post Post #622 (isolation #40) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:00 am

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I just realized there's a vig and he didn't shoot DK.

Son I am disappoint.
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Post Post #629 (isolation #41) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:31 am

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Elvis, you forgot that silavor apparently thought both snarky and earworm were town the entire time.
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Post Post #631 (isolation #42) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:16 am

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Lowell seems to be just straight up lurking, rather than active lurking.
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Post Post #637 (isolation #43) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:41 am

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DK isn't a lurker. :(
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Post Post #649 (isolation #44) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:19 am

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How about the fact that no one evr, at any point, called silavor scummy for thinking 5 people are suspicious, nor does silavor find 5 people suspicious?
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Post Post #651 (isolation #45) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:23 am

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So does that change your conclusions?
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Post Post #654 (isolation #46) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:01 am

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But how do you feel about Silavor himself?
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Post Post #659 (isolation #47) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:25 pm

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How is stupid posting different from acting scummy? Clearly we all found his "stupidposting" scummy enough to wagon him.
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Post Post #661 (isolation #48) » Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:52 pm

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So you believe he was stupidposting on purpose as a plan?
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Post Post #674 (isolation #49) » Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:42 am

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DA FUCK?!

Smh
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Post Post #683 (isolation #50) » Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:20 am

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VOTE: evilpacman
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Post Post #689 (isolation #51) » Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:24 pm

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Vote: ignore every single post DK makes

Vote: vig please kill DK

That post of llamarble's WAS weird... Since I was obviously talking about ep's terribad hammer.

Llamarble, why would you have caused me to say "what the fuck"
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Post Post #705 (isolation #52) » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:25 pm

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DeityKabuto wrote:
Seacore wrote:Has anybody voted for you today DK? no. We just think your case is dumb and do not support it.

And this is the last word I'll say on your case:

Town do not know whether something will be a mislynch or not. So couldn't EK just have been town, supporting what many of us thought would be a scum lynch?

If we followed you, and voted EK, lynched her and then she flipped town, would you be proven scum? No, you were just proven wrong.


I like your logic and all, but isn't there that small chance elvis does turn out to be scum?


Yes, but there is no special reason to think she is at the moment.
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Post Post #707 (isolation #53) » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:34 pm

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You're actually being reasonable, so I don't mind.
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Post Post #712 (isolation #54) » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:16 pm

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Explain how it wasn't scum motivated.
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Post Post #717 (isolation #55) » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:24 pm

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evilpacman18 wrote:
evilpacman18 wrote:Why did I hammer? Figured two things.
1. He was scum.
2. It'd be fun.

At least one of those was correct.


He wasn't scum, and indicating that you thought hammering would be fun has nothing to do with alignment besides the fact that it is distinctly anti-town.
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Post Post #747 (isolation #56) » Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:46 pm

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Seacore, Hez didn't say anything about nks.
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Post Post #750 (isolation #57) » Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:20 pm

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Btw, Hez wall is bad.
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Post Post #752 (isolation #58) » Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:47 pm

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Sounds like he killed Elli in a major threatkill and thought people's minds going there was inevitable - but I didn't think of iit until he said it, personally.

So yeah, totally suspicious.
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Post Post #762 (isolation #59) » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:31 pm

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Fate wrote:I had called silavor town earlier I think, but we needed a lynch and like hell I wasn't going to make use of my vote.

So once again

LOLGREYSCUM


Is there any amount of drugs that could make this post make sense?
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Post Post #766 (isolation #60) » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:43 pm

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I missed it. :(
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Post Post #770 (isolation #61) » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:02 pm

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Was it something to the effect of, "suck my dick, pacmanscum?" That is my guess.
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Post Post #784 (isolation #62) » Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:00 am

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This is a bastard mod because mod lied to us. :lol:

Not seeing the ckd case.
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Post Post #798 (isolation #63) » Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:14 am

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Llamarble's explanation makes sense. I want to see more content from him.

VOTE: snarky

I'm a little flabbergasted by his guilty conscience tbh.
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Post Post #802 (isolation #64) » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:33 pm

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elvis_knits wrote:Llamarble explained nothing though.


He explained the "did I cause that?"

Llamarble, why did you ecourage a claimless hammer onnly to detract that after someone followed your advice?
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Post Post #854 (isolation #65) » Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:51 am

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I have not been providing this game with the attention it needs, and I still can't.

I promise that I will, asap.

For now:

Grey, can you provide me some scum meta? I've only ever played with you as town and you are really bugging my gate. Your reads are bad and you're setting up false dilemmas, ie me or earworm must be scum. I have a townread on earworm, for starters. Why are you assuming my vote on pacman was meant to carry me throughout the day and culminate in a lynch? It was not.

Elvis-knits: You are right; there is more to the llamarble case, as you have (solidly) provided. However, I am not abandoning that case. Instead, I think that Snarky got scummier in the meantime and that his nk spec is lynchworthy. Not sure why it is being ignored. In addition, llamarble is promising content and I'd like to see it. Llamarble is a good wagon.

Ckd is a shit wagon, and at first, I thought hez wagon was shit too - but then he reacted to it, and the flail is beautiful. BEAUTIFUL.

If no one will consent to lynching Snarky but me and Seacore, I'll do something more productive with my vote. I'd still like to see that take off, though.

Tajo - where are the cases I am used to from tajotown?
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Post Post #861 (isolation #66) » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:19 am

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LLAMARBLE POST FREAKING CONTENT
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Post Post #863 (isolation #67) » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:39 am

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Outside of your typos, I think I know what you mean, but you're blatantly incorrect. Llamarble has zero original content.
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Post Post #873 (isolation #68) » Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:15 pm

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Dat vig. I forgot jilynee was playing.

FA just made a really good point on hez that I glossed over before.

You "convinced yourself" he was scummy again?
Lol. I need to analyze that flipf flop.

In the meantime,.

Unvote; Vote: Llamarble
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Post Post #882 (isolation #69) » Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:26 pm

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WELL

He has been going after CKD strongly enough today for this to be plausible.

Unvote; Vote: CKD


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Post Post #883 (isolation #70) » Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:28 pm

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To clarify, I do think this is a gambit - or at least, not a town gambit. The consistency of his attack and his surety struck me as strange before, and makes sense with a cop claim. This is likely to be a 1 for 1 exchange in some way or another ... unless there's an insane cop, but that doesn't seem Llama's style. I'll have to check his meta for this.
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Post Post #884 (isolation #71) » Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:29 pm

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EBWOP: Do NOT think this is a gambit.

Man, I guess my reads were wrong. :/ I totes had CKD as town.
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Post Post #888 (isolation #72) » Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:36 pm

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ohshi. NEW PLAN.

Unvote; Vote: HezLucky


He flips cop, we lynch ckd. FOOLPROOF. Also Hez is scummier anyway.
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Post Post #963 (isolation #73) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:36 am

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V/La for an indefinite period of time. My father had a heart attack. I will probably post a little, or maybe even a lot, depending on how much distraction I want, but I may disappear for a couple of days and wanted to make everyone aware.
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Post Post #985 (isolation #74) » Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:02 pm

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Don't understand Seacore wagon.
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Post Post #990 (isolation #75) » Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:24 am

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Lowell wrote:The llamarble wagon totally fell apart yesterday. Anyone want to explain why? Certainly isn't because he actually did something useful.

WHY DIdD YOU HAVE TO POST NOW YOU CANT DIE

Ckd is llamarble eligible for death? Let it be so.
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Post Post #994 (isolation #76) » Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:51 am

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You don't get to lurk2victory, sorry. Voting for a rondom person, even me, will not deflect attention off of you.

How do you know the scum is all lions?
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Post Post #1051 (isolation #77) » Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:49 pm

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Grey - can you better demonstrate why vezok is scum?

Is anyone else made as uncomfortably as me by llamarble's explanation of "lionscum?"

Dislike llamarble's and snarky's excuses for poor content.

Atilysian is town - her thoughtprocesses are totally transparent and I do not understand the suspicion cast on her.

I feel townish about Seacore but it is not a particularly strong feeling. There are much better wagons that could be happening right now, like Snarky and Llamarble or even ckd.

Grey, I totally dislike using "wanting to lynch ckd" as a scumtell. It is one thing to sk hunt and totally another to discuss the utility of lynching one that has been handed to you on a silver platter.

I am also ambivalent about Grey; he is null right now, but I do trust his ability to read vezok.
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Post Post #1060 (isolation #78) » Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:27 am

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Also dislike Snarky's buddying of ZeL1nk.
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Post Post #1064 (isolation #79) » Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:05 am

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Snarky wrote:Eh I want to reconcile with you Zelink.

unvote vote GreyIce


Or does that piss you off?...

No seriously your case convinced me. And Seacore is acting townily since the wagon started.

I should never join a large game again... I'm just too confused to get proper reads, cause there are too many people and too many pages, and that kills my envy to catchup so I'll just jump on the shiniest wagon until there are fewer players alive (or I die).

No no I know what I'll do, I will just start playing actively without rereading, I might be more useful like that...


This post is a good example of your buddying and your excuses.

What question?
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Post Post #1067 (isolation #80) » Sun Jul 03, 2011 10:33 am

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Yes, it was a joke... Joking is a form of buddying, especially in that context.

I don't think llamarble's explanation makes sense. I didn't assume all the scum were lions; Llamarble apparently did, which isn't ENTIRELY unreasonable, but when I asked him about it, he denied it in a way that doesn't make sense and seems like backtracking. It makes me think all the scum ARE lions and that Llamarble is one of them.
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Post Post #1072 (isolation #81) » Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:06 am

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I still don't get how it makes sense.

And all joking is not a scumtell. It depends on context.
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Post Post #1097 (isolation #82) » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:38 am

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Snarky: the obvious "don't lynch me bro" context.
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Post Post #1100 (isolation #83) » Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:23 pm

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Seacore wrote:
populartajo wrote:I isolated both seacore and vezok.

Can everyone, specially those voting seacore, tell me why are you prefering seacore to vezok?


The real answer will be "Seacore should know better"


Than what?
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Post Post #1102 (isolation #84) » Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:30 pm

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So what are you saying? That you are playing worse than vezok?
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Post Post #1141 (isolation #85) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:26 am

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Ugh, VCAs full of confirmation bias. Not nearly as much analysis as I had hoped.

Grey, answer my question, please?
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Post Post #1143 (isolation #86) » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:34 am

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How confident are you in vezokscum and why - with examples?
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Post Post #1233 (isolation #87) » Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:35 pm

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Caught up!

New scumspect: tajo. None of his votes today were good or made sense. He's following anything shiny.

Llamarble still scum.

Elvis still town; Grey's OMGUS on her is terrible, but not sure he is scum. He is still dodging my question as well.

DK is probtown but I'd LOVE for him to die.

ckd is probnot town.

VOTE: DeityKabuto

It needs to die.

We should probably be lynching scum today, though ... but I can't resist a DK wagon. It is my weakness.
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Post Post #1238 (isolation #88) » Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:47 pm

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I can't help it. :( This is why he is blacklisted. I can't function properly with him in a game.
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Post Post #1241 (isolation #89) » Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:51 pm

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We're still scumhunting.
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Post Post #1243 (isolation #90) » Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:58 pm

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Wrong account.

And yes, I am.

PS, tajo. You should totally explain your votes of today (minus DK). Especially the one one me.
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Post Post #1245 (isolation #91) » Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:03 pm

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Just because I am voting for DK who I think may be town but is definitely a liability for town does not mean I am not scumhunting.
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Post Post #1297 (isolation #92) » Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:24 am

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Why? Do you think FA is a paragon of towniness, DK?

Why elvis, Snarky?
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Post Post #1307 (isolation #93) » Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:42 am

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VOTE: Snarky
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Post Post #1315 (isolation #94) » Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:46 pm

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Atilysian, are you serious? I've been going after snarky for four days now.

But in particular his most recent post was bad.

He said "Why" to Llamarble who said that earworm or I are most likely to be scum, then listed two terrible scumreads in the exact same way.

WE ARE NOT FUCKING LYNCHING ELVIS OMG.
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Post Post #1378 (isolation #95) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:53 pm

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HAHAHAHA I TOLD YOU BITCHES ABOUT TAJO

VOTE: populartajo

TRY TO TALK YOURSELF OUT OF THIS, SCUM. GO AHEAD.
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Post Post #1393 (isolation #96) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:12 pm

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That doesn't make sense. It's inconsistent with granting cop powers TWICE. How does your ability work? Fullclaim, please.
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Post Post #1397 (isolation #97) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:16 pm

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So you do both each night?
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Post Post #1398 (isolation #98) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:17 pm

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Fullclaiming involves your freaking targets, btw.
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Post Post #1403 (isolation #99) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:19 pm

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Why ice?
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Post Post #1407 (isolation #100) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:22 pm

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No, he said he can only grant one a night.
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Post Post #1466 (isolation #101) » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:18 am

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elvis_knits wrote:Other things that stuck out to me from the last pages:

Seacore - earning town cred.
---->responded to cirno's anti-town antics in a pro-town manner
---->
suspected ckd's gambit was a gambit. tajo obv did not, he got caught. odds of seacore being scum buddy with tajo decrease, cause seacore would have warned tajo if they have a QT, which they probably do. Always the chance they don't have a QT or tajo posted without checking it. But still, odds of seacore being tajo's scum buddy decrease.


Vezok - even less likely scumbag
---->tajo has been trying to off him for a few days

Calcifer - looking scummier
---->post 1374 suggests we let ckd vig tajo instead of lynching him = more chance of scum getting another dead town today if we lynch somebody other than tajo
---->voting seacore at this point seems pretty wrong

lowell - needs to die
---->i can't tell if he's scum or so dumb that he is functional scum


What the fuck? Scum have daytalk? Nice to know.

You were town to me before this, but I see no way that town could make this slip.

VOTE: elvis_knits

I totes think tajo is also scum. I need two votes.
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Post Post #1468 (isolation #102) » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:20 am

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DeityKabuto wrote:
Vote HezLucky


SOMEBODY MAKE IT FUCKING DIE
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Post Post #1475 (isolation #103) » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:26 am

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elvis_knits wrote:How is that a slip, amrun?

They probably do have a QT.


Yes, they probably do. But why are you assuming daytalk? There is only one way for you to know that.
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Post Post #1482 (isolation #104) » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:39 am

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elvis_knits wrote:
Flavour Analysis wrote:
Amrun wrote:
elvis_knits wrote:How is that a slip, amrun?

They probably do have a QT.


Yes, they probably do. But why are you assuming daytalk? There is only one way for you to know that.


How does make you assume EK was implying day talk?


I was assuming daytalk. I just think that's kinda normal. I said we don't know for sure, but I would expect it's a possibility.


Why do you think daytalk is normal?

This is definitely a scumtell and I'm happy to lynch elvis on this alone (although sad because I <3 her).

But obv a tajo lynch is cool, too, as his claim makes no sense.

Would like to hear about his supposed gadgets, though. Chimpanzee inventor claim implies that they do exist (tools etc) but he claimed none.
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Post Post #1488 (isolation #105) » Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:21 am

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But all scumteams have a QT. Some can talk during the day and some only at night.

Daytalk is not normal, though it is, of course, heard of. Hoopla, for example, values scum daytalk as equivalent to 4 town PRs, iirc.
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Post Post #1512 (isolation #106) » Wed Jul 13, 2011 6:57 am

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Vig fucking Lowell.
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Post Post #1580 (isolation #107) » Sun Jul 17, 2011 2:28 am

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Atilysian, why vote for me and sapend the whole post talking about Calcifer?

Calcifer seemed vaguely town yesterday to me. Why does the Snarky wagon keep dying?

VOTE: Snarky
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Post Post #1585 (isolation #108) » Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:52 am

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Atilysian wrote:
Amrun - Her early game confidence in the FA and Snarky lynches strikes me the wrong way. I did think she was doing good scumhunting up to the most recent policy lynch episode, but that early suspicion never went away.

....

GreyICE wagon was good and had good reasonings attached, so I don't think a lot of scum was on it.
Vote: Amrun


This post, you mean, where a couple of buried sentences were in a wall, attached with a vote and TERRIBLE reasoning?

Why would scum avoid a "good wagon" on town?

Try harder.
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Post Post #1592 (isolation #109) » Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:38 am

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But you never detailed your read. That's all you gave - and the beginning of the game you didn't mention me much, so if I'm so scummy, why bring it all up now?
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Post Post #1594 (isolation #110) » Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:51 am

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You need to do a little better if you are only going by PoE at this point.

That being said, I think your intereactions with hez make you town.
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Post Post #1601 (isolation #111) » Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:06 pm

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Snarky has done nothing to contribute to town. All he has done is rolefished, buddied, and tried to skate by looking pro-town "enough.". He has displayed extreme nervousness and a guilty conscious about the Elli NK.

I fully intend to make a more proper case on Snarky today when I have time.
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Post Post #1631 (isolation #112) » Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:41 am

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DK doesn't usually lie about claims, no.

Never played with him as scum, only third party, though, and he mis-read his pm there and thought he was town...

I can't even comment on this wagon. I just want him to go away.
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Post Post #1643 (isolation #113) » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:59 am

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Why can't you think for yourself, Charlie.

Here's to hoping Lowell falls within vig range today.

VOTE: Snarky

Still scum.

P-edit: do you know why yet, alti?
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Post Post #1646 (isolation #114) » Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:01 am

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I mean you haven't yet given sufficient reasoning for suspecting me. We covered this yesterday.
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Post Post #1648 (isolation #115) » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:22 am

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DIFFERENCE: All my reasons for suspecting you actualy already exist in my ISO. It's just not organized into one post.
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Post Post #1659 (isolation #116) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:39 am

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Ask away, elvis.
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Post Post #1662 (isolation #117) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:12 pm

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I have several reasons. I do need to put together a case on him, but really that will just be shine.

Overall, Snarky has displayed rolefishing, buddying to town to try and get out of a lynch, opportunism, and the big thing for me is when he displayed a guilty conscience about Ellibereth's death. That was basically admitting that he killed Elli, to me, but only Seacore seemed to pay attention to this besides me.
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Post Post #1693 (isolation #118) » Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:37 am

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Elvis: No, I think he killed Elli out of threat and assumed everyone would jump on it and tried to defend pre-emptively. It came off very nervous.

He buddied Zel1ink, trying to joke with and appease him, and as you said, they'd been going at each other and it stuck out. MOST of Snarky's votes have been opportunistic - just like his more recent vote.

Cirno wagon is okay, buti am sticking with Snarky and hoping I get more support. He has the highest chance of being scum, for sure.

The most damning thing in Cirno's ISO is his intense fence-sitting on GI, followed by a hammer, followed by continued denial of said fencesitting, but Snarky is still a better lynch imho.
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Post Post #1698 (isolation #119) » Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:45 am

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No, ckd. It is nowhere near deadline and there is no point in abandoning my preferred lynch now.

Seacore, you also suspected Snarky. What happened to that?

Cirno, if you hammered gi for info, why haven't you analyzed it at all?
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Post Post #1701 (isolation #120) » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:40 pm

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Why did you, then?
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Post Post #1703 (isolation #121) » Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:44 pm

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HOW was it "good enough?"
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Post Post #1708 (isolation #122) » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:01 pm

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Seacore, do you still suspect Snarky?
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Post Post #1727 (isolation #123) » Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:47 pm

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Cirno wrote:
Altilysian wrote:But you specifically said it would be interesting,
information wise
. That should make the wagon special and deserving of more attention.
But "interesting, information wise" doesn't mean anything other than that the wagon would provide interesting information.


This doesn't even make sense.
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Post Post #1762 (isolation #124) » Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:33 pm

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Where did you express suspicion of gi, cirno?
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Post Post #1773 (isolation #125) » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:38 am

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That's L-1.

Perhaps we should make Cirno self-hammer to avoid possible hammer shenanigans?

Cirno, would you be willing?

No one hammer yet, we still need to vig.
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Post Post #1774 (isolation #126) » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:39 am

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I just realized my plan makes no sense.

:( never mind.

STILL TOUGH we need to vig.
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Post Post #1780 (isolation #127) » Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:48 am

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I'd rather vig someone else so we don't have to build a whole new wagon.
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Post Post #1784 (isolation #128) » Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:49 am

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Charlie, if you lurk for 72 hours, you won't have to read.

Read Charlie's voting post. He meant Cirno to die right now before we vig anyone.
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Post Post #1787 (isolation #129) » Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:18 am

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Charlie, if you read Snarky's posts, then you knew as soon as someone put Cirno at L-1, Snarky was going to hammer. Also in your post you talked about the flip as if we were about to see it.

CKD, no, I want to vig someone the group agrees is scummy, I just don't want to rely on lurkers moving their votes at deadline. Instead, I think we should keep the votes on Cirno and use virtual votes to decide vig target. Get it?
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Post Post #1789 (isolation #130) » Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:32 am

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You put Cirno at L-1 and acknowledged that you read Snarky'ms hammer pledge.

Herp derp.
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Post Post #1793 (isolation #131) » Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:11 am

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If you don't understand how that's a problem, then I don't know what to say to you.

Atilysian: I don't know. As much as necessary. Probably not that much at this point because there are only a few that can realistically be shot.
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Post Post #1798 (isolation #132) » Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:34 am

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So much for vigging, what the hell.
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Post Post #1828 (isolation #133) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:19 pm

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I don't think I can suffer the existence of Lowell anymore no lie.

I haven't forgotten ek's daytalk shenanigans either.

BUT STILL while Snarky lives none of that is important.

VOTE: Snarky
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Post Post #1830 (isolation #134) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:25 pm

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^ this is a good point

ps seacore is town kthx
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Post Post #1835 (isolation #135) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:36 pm

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He got wagoned up at one point. His reaction was town.
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Post Post #1838 (isolation #136) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:30 pm

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VOTE: Lowell

Blood for the blood god.
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Post Post #1845 (isolation #137) » Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:46 am

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Mass claim is retarded.

Seriously.

Derp.

Not doing it, not going first, because the set up is pretty obv so we gain nothing out of it.
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Post Post #1846 (isolation #138) » Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:47 am

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I mean, I will do it if everyone wants, but why shold I?
All town members are vt.

Soooo. Yeah. It's obvious. What a waste of time.
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Post Post #1849 (isolation #139) » Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:49 am

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I didn't blow any trap. It's OBVIOUS.

Like seriously obvious.

It was a little up in the air before ckd's death but now it's confirmed.

In the beginning of the game, was it obvious? No.

Scum have fakeclaimed thrice and been burned every time. I do not think they will be so stupid again.
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Post Post #1852 (isolation #140) » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:26 pm

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I guess elvis is right and I should have just gone along with it for appearances and on the off-chance some scum did something dumb.

I thought it was exceedingly obvious though.
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Post Post #1854 (isolation #141) » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:34 pm

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Ek needs to explain a town read on snarky fast
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Post Post #1867 (isolation #142) » Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:51 am

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I agree that I need to make a case on Snarky, but I find doing so extremely difficult without a computer.

Doing it on my phone seriously makes me want to muder something tiny.

I SHOULD have access to a computer tomorrow night for a little while. Should.

That isn't what I asked, though. I asked why you thought Snarky was TOWN.

Your intense protections of Snarky don't make any sense unless you're his mason or something or have a very good reason to think you're town.

I'm confused, though - you think the pro-town thing would be to abandon my scumread and lynch shinier things?

I apologize for peeing on your plan, and if I had taken time to think about it, I wouldn't have. The chance for catching scum was about 0, though, and in my opinion, anyone who spent two seconds thinking about the set up would come to the same conclusion I did.

There are few things I find more annoying than popcorn massclaims that only benefit scum.
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Post Post #1874 (isolation #143) » Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:34 am

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Ek: if you don't think Snarky is town, then you don't make sense.

I have detailed my suspicion of Snarky pretty thoroughly throughout 8 freaking game days. Not putting together a shiny case because I do all my shit from my black berry is not a scumtell and I am at a loss as to why you think it is.

I will try to make said pretty case if and when I can.

I know I had random computer access when this game was in night and I was like "damnit."

As much as I want snarky lynched, I don't care about mafia enough to give myself heartache losing huge posts on my phone. There just has to be a line drawn with how much I care about mafia.

I do look forward to being able to post with ease, though. It really makes things a lot better.

It won't be for a month or so.
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Post Post #1879 (isolation #144) » Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:30 am

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Scum, having been burned twice by fakeclaims, surely know by now that it's futile - at least in a popcorn situation. But town might get lolgambit ideas from ctd and then we'd lynch them for nothing.

Snarky gets more opportunistic as you fencesit some more, ek.
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Post Post #1884 (isolation #145) » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:39 am

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I already said I was too hasty with that assumption.
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Post Post #1887 (isolation #146) » Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:47 pm

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Fuuuck you all.

I really wanted to post my case on Snarky. You couldn't wait one more day?

Snarky is scum. Don't forget.
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Post Post #1889 (isolation #147) » Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:15 pm

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I do not have a computer.

I think I've been clear about that.

I have access a little while tomorrow but mod scene will be up long before then.
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Post Post #1950 (isolation #148) » Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:16 am

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I had hopes for you, alti. :( good ol college try.

ALSO ELVIS ILU BUT YOU SOOOOO SCUMSLIPPED

Can't believe no one else jumped on that! I was not at all surprised you were daytalking scum.

It's so lame we had to kill you since I totally knew you scumslipped but you had too much towncred to push it too far since no one alive was honestly competent enough to recognize it for what it was.

LOVED the scavenging mechanic, though! It was a pretty setup, llama.
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Post Post #1953 (isolation #149) » Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:44 am

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Alti played very well.

Tajo played well until ckd's gambit. :(

Hez played well and perfectly served his function of going down in flames and handing us the sk on a platter.

SOMEHOW, he convinced the town he was a vig and we were forced to kill him. Wtf about that. SERIOUSLY. Town did some dumb shit this game.

My play was pretty hampered by the meatworld this game. Apologies to all. :(
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Post Post #1964 (isolation #150) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:55 pm

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ZeL1nK wrote:I was mostly calling CKD town because he wasn't part of the NKing team and him being alive meant no more daykills could occur if he was part of a hyena team, which I briefly touched on at some point I think.
As soon as I died, it should have become plainly obvious that the game was mountainous (I was like the 8th consecutive VT death and 5 more claimed VTs alive, with NO PR results to speak of?)

I'm actually surprised scum even killed CKD. Town would have figured out he was scum if they ever massclaimed so he was a wasted kill. And if you killed Elvis before CKD, town would have pretty much insta-lynched CKD, which would have bought an extra NK/possible mislynch. Which also makes me wonder why CKD claimed Hyena..... If Elvis died (and Elvis was a strong town read for a lot of players), he was pretty much condemned to death.

Town lucked out in this game, but scum misplayed here and there. This is one of those games I'd rather forget ever happened.



Thanks. Yeah, it was blatantly obvious, but I got lynched for saying it was blatantly obvious...

I DID want to quash the mass claim idea because I thought maybe they were in groups of 3 (the names) and I didn't want to accidentally create some 1 v 1s.
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