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Post #73 (isolation #0) » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:57 am
Postby Maruchan »
Klazam wrote:
I’m planning to be at the Campfire at the day’s end. I want to try it and see what happens. Since I’ll only need 2 chits to do that, I’ll offer up my chits to help anybody else move wherever they want to be.
I'll move you to the campfire, if you move me to the rageatorium
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Post #82 (isolation #2) » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:03 am
Postby Maruchan »
@Everyone saying move to the door switch, I would be fine with moving to the door switch with the side-note that if I ever close a door that isn't generally agreed upon I am an IMMEDI-LYNCH
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Post #91 (isolation #3) » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:14 am
Postby Maruchan »
Nobody Special, I see it as a null. I am offering myself up to go sit in a room where i get to do nothing special but listen to town tell me what to do.
AL so, I think I am online for the longest and most constant period of time daily out of everyone in the game, so that gives me quicker-responses to people wanting doors closed. (I may be miss-reading how the door works)
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Post #93 (isolation #4) » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:14 am
Postby Maruchan »
Lost Butterfly wrote:
xRECKONERx wrote:Um who the fuck said you three were town anyway
Who the fuck said
SDC
were all town? And yet you were fine with a SDC villa.
Also, two-thirds of the LB-hito-Andrius alliance consists of hito and Andrius. Therefore, if you MUST look for three people to trust early on Day One...
(I know I initially said the QT thing was overrated, but I changed my mind after some discussion with Faraday.)
Maruchan, the door-switcher has to be someone in the villa. Otherwise, it blocks up the traffic.
no it doesn't.
I move to the door, and stay there all-game. And then you guys fill the vilal and trap me in
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Post #141 (isolation #9) » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:54 am
Postby Maruchan »
I think we should suggest moving EVERYBODY out of the Nexus/Rageatorium/SecludedVilla/Door switch, then lock every door around that 4-room line. Why? then the scum can't kill me to force-replace the door switch operator!!
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Post #159 (isolation #10) » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:28 pm
Postby Maruchan »
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Maruchan wrote:I think we should suggest moving EVERYBODY out of the Nexus/Rageatorium/SecludedVilla/Door switch, then lock every door around that 4-room line. Why? then the scum can't kill me to force-replace the door switch operator!!
^_^
This is wrong for the same reason as the Party Room plan.
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Post #161 (isolation #11) » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:33 pm
Postby Maruchan »
hitogoroshi wrote:
"oops guys, sorry I didn't open that door like I said! I was at a concert with my friends and I went right to sleep when I got back!"
I don't want to play "not sure if scum or telling the truth" with that business. I suppose I could relent with someone who is, alignment independent, very consistent. But I do NOT want to deal with that kind of situation, and the absolute safest way is to try to get a townie on door control.
See with me you won't have this problem!
I have no life.
Like literally.
No Life.
SO I wake up, watch some tv while refreshing my mafia games on my laptop (I keep a standard 27 permanent tabs opened, arranged in tab groups for their function). Eat dinner. Refresh some more.
Eat midnight snack. refresh some more.
sleep.
Rinse repeat
In a week I will be starting school though, HOWEVER:
1. I never have homework
2. If I do have homework I finish it in another class
3. If I don't finish it in another class it doesn't get done.
4. I have no sports nor extracurricular.
5. ???
6. Profit!
So other than for 2-3 hours on Tuesdays/Thursdays, I will be at my computer constantly from 3PM till Midnight once school starts, and on my cell during school.
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Post #180 (isolation #12) » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:06 pm
Postby Maruchan »
iamausername wrote:I can already tell that this game is going to hurt my head.
What strikes me the most so far is that I find Maruchan's eagerness to get to the Door Control room very disconcerting. Even given that he'd only be operating the doors on town consensus, we don't know what kind of powers scum might have, could be that they gain some huge extra advantage from being in there at night or something. I think we should be very skeptical about the motives of anyone who wants to move themselves (or any other specific person, in fact) to a particular room.
The Secluded Villa trio don't have the same issue, because that was at least partially arranged before anyone had role PMs so it's clearly not alignment based. But in general I think we should be figuring out how we want to arrange all the players without deciding who fills which role, and then use some kind of randomising method to decide who goes where.
Random except that I want Maruchan kept as far away from Door Control as possible.
Regfan's #153 is a good start.
If it makes you feel better I am a Vanilla Townie, with standard chits, and nothing extra added.
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Post #188 (isolation #13) » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:35 pm
Postby Maruchan »
iamausername wrote:
Llamarble wrote:Iamausername, we specifically requested somebody to go to door control. And if he misbehaves it will be OBVOBV and we can just quicklynch him.
Do not interfere with him going to the door control.
Misbehaviour in what sense? Opening and losing doors that nobody told him to, sure. That'd be obvious.
Being handily next door to the secluded villa so he can nip in there at night and pick off whatever obvtownie is in there? A little less obvious. Doing everything we say and nothing more until lylo when having control of the doors is key to some scum plan to overwhelm the town? Obvious, but too late for us to do anything about it. Gaining some secret scum power from being in the door control room? Not at all.
I think we should absolutely be sending someone to the Door Control room and directing them on which doors to operate, but I think it should absolutely not be someone who went "Hey guys, is it cool if I go operate the doors? You can totally lynch me if I don't do what you say, promise!"
@Mod, can you either Deny, or refuse to comment on the subject as to whether there are any roles that specifically benefit from being in a certain room? Like either say "No there are none" or "I won't comment either way" for me? I either want to have to legitly deal with these accusations, or be told they don't exist.
If there is a chance they DO exist, I am sure iamausername has one
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Post #222 (isolation #17) » Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:29 pm
Postby Maruchan »
xRECKONERx wrote:
- Maruchan is proving to be a great player. YOU'RE WELCOME FOR VOUCHING FOR YOU IN THREE DIFFERENT GAMES.
- While I get Maruchan wants to go to door control, I'd prefer to be there or the Villa so that I can just do what people tell me to or have SEEKRIT TEE HEE QT with SDC peeps.
This is why I love the random kidness of nice strangers even after I break the game the first game I play with them and still hand them a win on a silver platter.
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Post #273 (isolation #20) » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:33 pm
Postby Maruchan »
Llamarble wrote:Good things to do this round:
Help Maruchan hold position.
Maruchan did you find out anything interesting about the SV (that should be shared, of course)?
Open the door between switch & chair
1.
@MOD!: Does a Non-Move, if it ends up being used, keep ALL future moves after the non-move is successful from happening, or does it just protect against ONE move? IE: insured chit to non-move maruchan is successful! 3 mafia non-insured moves to move Maruchan to Secluded Villa! What happens here?
2. Apparently, when passing through multiple zones during a Round-End Phase, you only get the perks of the room you are in when NEW-ROUND BEGINS. I did not receive any form of PM nor any communication from the mod stating that I had the ability to converse with anyone in a QT, nor did I receive any PM stating I was moved.
If I was to not pay attention to the game, I could have assumed I was still where I started.
@Mod!: Possible suggestion, send out a mass PM from zorastermod saying player X started in -- and ended up in --, with all player names on it, just so everyone knows what happened in case they are idiots and not keeping up on the game?
3. I can do this tonight. I will begin compiling a list for myself for all doors that want opening, and who wants them open:
THEREFORE ALL TOWN SHOULD SAY THEY SECOND/THIRD/FOURTH a certain door being opened, so I can see the doors most wanted to be opened/closed during the Round-End Phase. Does anybody object to this method? THis may also be good for scumhunting later on!
Amrun wrote:Possibly scum:
-Getting twitches from Maruchan
I know a lot of people are reading his volunteering as town, but I am not. Maruchan is a frequent day 1 lynch, iirc - being a newbie and still on the learning curve - and as scum, it wouldn't surprise me if this was a desperate bid to receive town reads he might not otherwise get. I could see him doing this as town, too, but it just seems a little too pre-planned for me. Doesn't read authentic.
Please for the love of fucking god go meta-examine me. I will not go further as it involves ONGOING GAMES. (Hint hint nudge nudge this should give you guys enough info to know what to look for).
xRECKONERx wrote:Give me a reason or I dayvig you.
GOod I fucking love you. This is exactly how I play when I have guns. CLAIM OR SHOOT. "I ant claimin bish" BAM U DEAD
Amrun wrote:VOTE: Maruchan
Please tell me WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS FOR?
Lady Labdadelta wrote:Reck, explain your comments Re: Maruchan. What was the point of pumping Maru's ego?
I have an Ego? And its worth being pumped? coool.
Anyways for the thing I plan on posting every page or 2:
@Mod, is there a limit to number of doors I can open every night? Do they get more expensive the more I open/close? Can I INSURE a door open, have someone else insure 2-3 moves into the secret space, then UNINSURED a door close, to get them in and locked all in the same night?
@Town, how many doors do you want me to open a night? Do you want to set it to any door that has over X number of votes gets opened/closed?
I will also keep a record of how many chits i have remaining after each Round end.
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Post #276 (isolation #21) » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:41 pm
Postby Maruchan »
Klazam wrote:Maru- One each round should be sufficent for now. (I'm assuming you mean "night" to be "round")
/facedesk.
yes.
Amrun wrote:It's to make a point: you are not obvtown.
You are not obvscum, either, to be fair. I don't really have any honest to goodness scumreads yet. I'm working on my PoE by getting townreads and when something pops out at me, I will say it.
But you had JUST AS MUCH scum motivation to do what you did as town motivation. It has very little to do with meta.
Yo
So let me get this straight.
You voted me, to tell me, that I am not obvTown. When I already knew this? Wouldn't it be easier to tell everyone ELSE that I am not ObvTOwn, rather than vote me and not explain it? I don't see how voting me without explanation gets that across to the rest of the players.
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Post #285 (isolation #23) » Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:53 pm
Postby Maruchan »
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Maruchan, who's scum?
I'm not completely sure right this second, I just got back from watching my TV show, and just skimmed for anything with my name on it.
Amrun wrote:Uh, Maruchan, I told everyone why. You even quoted why, earlier.
So why did you post the REASONS you voted me, then wait 2 pages, and post 4 times, THEN vote me?
Ragfan wrote:@ Maruchan - You should be opening C/D4 the Electric Chair long enough for someone to get to the Security room, when they make it there you should be locking C/D4 and C4/5. You should also be locking E/F3 either straight away or after we've safely transported three people into there.
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Post #291 (isolation #24) » Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:04 pm
Postby Maruchan »
I'm curious about Klazam and Feysal. I don't see their reasoning for not wanting someone to hold my spot for long, although I am sure they have one.
IGMEOY Reckoner, as Plum pointed out the "I like Maruchan being there, but owait I wish I was there so I could kickback and ignore town or kickback and let town tell me what to do"
IGMEOY LLD, for not even saying ANYTHING about the two votes you had on you whatsoever.
I'll be Watching Amrun, sue to the whole "I don't think Maruchan is scummy or towny, but if he IS scum, he's safe because we have a tight leash on him, BUT WAIT VOTE HIM ANYWAYS, just to prove I think he COULD be scum."
Plum has a couple of townie points for pointing out the reckoner contradiction. But not like a OMG SHESOTOWN. Just like a thumbs up and a pat on the back kinda deal.
Oh and the guy keeping records of all the moves. I liek him. He's cool.
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Post #307 (isolation #27) » Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:38 pm
Postby Maruchan »
getting twitches and then your explanation of could be town could be scum reads to me more like "I don't have feelings either way", but thanks for clearing that up for me.
now please explain scum motives too please.
)I already know what some WOULD be if I were scum, I just want to see what you come up with)
However, Amrun is 100% right. My offering to be the door switcher has nothing to do with alignment. I often do thing regardless of alignment, heck there are some things I am willing to do before even CHECKING my alignment. However, THIS GAME I did check my alignment first. (dropping hints if anyone is doign the meta check I said you should do earlier.)
Also Amrun, just to be clear, I already claimed. you know that right?
LLD I told you all my scum vibes. None are scumie enough to get a vote. I don't like to toss out my vote willy nilly. (which is also stated in my meta with town flips)
However I no longer have my eye on you. ZYour explanation of pregame shenanigans satisfies my curiosity at your lack of response.
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Post #314 (isolation #28) » Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:24 pm
Postby Maruchan »
I just realized, since scum as a faction only get extra movies in 10-14, we need to SERIOUSLY keep track of anybody who uses their chits. And if anyone ever doesn't have the chits needed to do what they're asked, we Policy Lynch them for A: using them on scum, B: using them on themselves without notifying town.
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Post #397 (isolation #33) » Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:21 am
Postby Maruchan »
Lost Butterfly wrote:Also; I called Maruchan conftown for #192.
I like that he hasn't said a word about it since I called that out. I find it interesting.
Klazam wrote:IMPORTANT POINT IN THIS GAME:
Sound, protown strategy DOES NOT mean the player is protown. Look for townies based on tone, scumhunting, and actions.
This. Strategy is nice and all, but it is not a part of the scumhunting. We're playing 2 games here: Strategy Board Where-Should-Everyone-Be, and Mafia. They don't criss-cross (much)
Llamarble wrote:It wouldn't be obvious at all. Any random scumbag could've submitted an insured Maru->campfire and had a 50/50 chance at negating 7 chips of investment.
I wouldn't even have missing chips.
Frankly I was a little surprised it didn't happen, but I figured scum would be a little disorganized and do what we told them D1 out of fear of getting confirmed as scum somehow and am glad I was right.
Ah you see, I don't think they would have done that. With how closely we are keeping track of chits, they would've been found out eventually. And yes, it would have thrown a cog in the town's playbook, but what do the scum really gain by me NOT being at the door?
@Nautilus Post #358 - Your scum&town reads, are they in any particular order?
Llamarble wrote:I find Llamarble's play to be the towniest so far next to Maruchan's, and Maruchan is not an option. His play has been transparent, his analysis agrees with my own, and he's been pretty motivated, instead of letting things slide or get lost in the cracks. Things like "no scum meddling in the Maruchan moves."
This is actually the FIRST game I have anywhere near as strong of a town read for everyone as I do, so early. Literally. This like never happens to me.
xRECKONERx wrote:This was just about at the upper limit of what I'm willing to reread after ONE NIGHT OF SLEEP. *sigh*
It's dying down. I only woke up to a total of 60 new posts. Thats not TOO extremely bad.
What is the "Vezo" mean in the VezoVTClaim? I'm not familiar with the term.
tclawren wrote:Planning on sending this non-move for Maruchan:
Player to Move: Maruchan
Room to Move to: Door Control
Insurance?: Yes
Is it better to send an Insured No-Move? or an Insured Move to Door control, and an Uninsured No-Move? or just an insured Move to Door Control, and an uninsured? (the easiest way to get around an insured move to the door control, as an un-insured way out of it.)
We won't need to keep me with these here long, as soon as we get the SV filled, I'll be trapped in unless one of them is kicked out, in order to bring me in. In which case we can start just popping an Uninsured Maruchan 2 Door Control every night.
tclawren wrote:LB- Please dont answer questions directed to others. I want Tc to answer that, and not rely on advice like you just gave him.
This. If anyone is ever asked a direct question, try not to answer it. I like seeing what people I am asking can come up with without help. Its usually harder for scum to come up with legit answers to questions than it is for town.
LLD wrote:A bad idea? Hmmm, no. It's actually a good plan if it weren't for something I know about this game that totally shatters it.
Is this something you figured out by examination, or something you found out by private communications with mod?
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Post #474 (isolation #36) » Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:01 pm
Postby Maruchan »
Regfan wrote:Further if we can maintain control over Move Checker we can almost force mafia into not distrubting the public plans that we create during the day.
We could lock them in.
Llamarble wrote:Argh I assumed deadline would be at 10 again.
So the fuck did I. I thoguht rounds were 24 hours, and sicne the last deadlien was at 10, that would make all at 10.
I was out at dinner, then dad surprised me with saying "SCHOOL CLOTHES SHOPPING LEZ GO"
Baby Spice wrote:Maru, do you often refer to your own Meta?
Just in terms of my early-early-early game IM VOLUNTEERING FOR SOMETHING actions. When there are special mechanics that involve quick volunteering, I refer to my meta, because I like to jump the fucking gun.
Lost Butterfly wrote:posting once a day isn't good enough.
THis is the truth.
Today is extremely non-normal for me. I woke up late, due to my power going out last night, then 2 hours after I woke up we went out for dinner (every Friday), and after dinner my dad was all "SCHOOL CLOTHES SHOPPING! LEZ GO!". I usually am on much much more.
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Post #699 (isolation #39) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:07 pm
Postby Maruchan »
IF I EVER FIDN OUT WHO THE FUCK PUT ME IN THE SECLUDED VILLA ALL ALONE I AM GOIGN TO FUCKIGN KILL THEM WITH MY BEAR HANDS!!!!!!!!!
If I EVER end up in there alone again, you can expect me to go apeshit.
@Baby Spice, you should have made that an UNINSURED move on mt, not an uninsured.
I was going to try to signal this by asking the mod if I could quote a person's post as to why I was voting them, so I could quote the "Insurance: Y" past then vote her and unvote her hoping someone would get my drift.
@Klazam, I had NOT used my blue chit, however last night I used my blue chit to open the door you all wanted open. So now I HAVE successfully used the blue chit. And still have 4 left. The confirm vote was me trying to say NO I still had it, while saving my unvote for my planned signaling of saying Baby Spice's insurance was unneeded.
Why was insured move bad? I would prefer not to explain as it is more helpful to the scum than it is to you.
@Everyone suggestion me to go for Potions. Wow. I totally did not see this coming. Like legit, I only claimed VT to quell whoever it was who was saying I was a role with special abilities in the door room. I also only volunteered to go to the door room, so that I wouldn't have to think as hard as others about strategy. It was a completely selfish non-use of my brain. JS.
FUCKING SECLUDED VILLA ALONE SUCKS LIKE SHIT
Whats worse is when the mod PMs you and says "I bet this sucks huh?". -.-
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Post #700 (isolation #40) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:15 pm
Postby Maruchan »
Klazam wrote:Maru'll move to the party room, i assume.
Players in nexus will need to move there.
Also, this basically confirms that LLD did not force maru out of the door control. (LLD now has 0 chits)
With proper organization, we can have maru in the campfire, halfway to the potion room at the end of this round. (1 partyroom move, 1 insured move to Rageroom, 2 insured moves to nexus, 1 uninsured move to campfire. This gives us a 2/3 chance of having maru in campfire and 1/3 chance of having maru be in the rageroom.) To do this, we need to empty the nexus.
Another player needs to be selected and sent to door control.
All right. Thats all i can think of for now. I'll be scumhunting for now. Everyone, please make a effort to be online at around 7:30 est tomorrow, that way we can make sure all moves that need to happen happens.
I have been loosely following your strategy the last few days, so yes I will send in an immediate move to Party Room for myself, if this is what you guys would all like. Or I can stay here for another round to re-close that door after we move whoever into it. We can insured-move them into the electric chair, then uninsured-lock the door, while insured-nonmoving me, OR insured-filling the SV.
I was about to point out the fact that because the nexus is full this whole plan is pointless, but then I realized you'd just have a majority of the Nexus move themselves to the Party. As for the rest of your plan its OK with me if that where you guys want me. I guess this means I have to use my brain now after all. X.X
Also, good point at LLD. However, before you make sure of this, did you check any of her p=moves she has submitted today to see if any of them could have not-happened without us knowing? Also I am sure scum have daytalk due to the complex nature of this game, so she might have gotten a scum-buddy to do them for her. Or she could be a scum-buddy and still have followed directions perfectly. Multiple scum and all.
NOT saying I suspect her, just keeping all possible options in the open.
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Post #703 (isolation #41) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:19 pm
Postby Maruchan »
Klazam wrote:Maru needs to elaborate on what is found in the secluded villa if it is in the town's best interests to know.
I got a PM from the mod saying that I was in the Secluded Villa, and with a loosely-coppied form of what the rules state.
The Rules wrote:Players may not talk in the game thread or any other QTs they have. Players may ONLY do the following actions in game: Vote, unvote, and confirm vote. Players may do each of those actions ONCE per Round.
Basically that is re-worded, sent to you in a PM, and if you are anyone BUT Maruchan, you get a link to a QT. -.-
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Post #704 (isolation #42) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:22 pm
Postby Maruchan »
Baby Spice wrote:Well at the time I submitted that move the concensus was for you to be there, and an insured move was the best way to fo it.
I did not expect that consensus to change so quickly.
Did you try to open a door before you got moved out?
I did not, I missed the deadline.
I DID open a door in R3 however, after you moved me there insured.
Even if everyone wanted me there, you still should have moved me uninsured, and I can explain why if nobody else sees my reasoning. I would just prefer not to help the scum out, which explaining why will do.
I think there was reason to make that move insured, since that allowed you to open the door at the end of the round. Otherwise there would have been a 50% chance of you failing to open the door.
I'm not sure for what reason you think the move should have been uninsured, but you can keep that to yourself if you want.
By Insuring my move to the door, you spent (2) Chits. Any Enterprising Mafia could have spent ONE chit to UNINSURED move me out of the door. This in effect, makes you waste chits, AND them, but they get the discounted end of the stick.
Insurance/Uninsurance is a double-edged sword that works in favor of scum.
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Post #722 (isolation #46) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:13 pm
Postby Maruchan »
Baby Spice wrote:Kazam has been showing Maru on four chits since the last round.
Maru, why when Kazam asked you in #572 about spending chits on door did you answer yes in #575, and if you meant no (while doing what Kazam asked you to fo for a yes) why not correct it with your first post after tbe Villa?
I did if yo ugo re-read my first actual content filled post.
I was trying to communicate while saving my unvote for another message I had planned on sending. One that ended up not being allowed. I was going to use it to tell Baby Spice to NOT insure my move.
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Post #731 (isolation #48) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:54 pm
Postby Maruchan »
Baby SPice wrote:I know about the Villa because I want to spend chits in the Villa myself, though in my case I need to spend more than the two I have left. (and I'm willing to claim why in the Villa QT)
I don't even....
What the fuck are you talkign about?
What does spending a chit while in the Vila have any difference than spending a chit while out of the Villa?
I did neither what I was told to do if I HAD spent a chit or if I HADN'T, and SILENCE did not mean "I hadn't".
GO reread. I had THREE OPTIONS. VOTE, CONFIRMVOTE, UNVOTE. He said to VOTE if spent, UNVOTE if not spent. He didn't say to say nothing if not spent. He didn't say to confirmvote if spent.
I did what I thought would get my point across.
If you really fucking don't trust me, give me 4 chit spending moves to make this turn, and I will prove the fuck to you I have four chits left.
inb4 "What about your fifth" MY FIFTH UNLOCKED THE DOOR THAT IS CURRENTLY OPEN.
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Post #782 (isolation #55) » Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:36 pm
Postby Maruchan »
Moving yourself to the party room counts as a move, and therefore if you try to move yourself to the party room and then move someone else UNINSURED, it will cost THREE total chits.
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Post #792 (isolation #56) » Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:07 pm
Postby Maruchan »
Butter should immediately close the door to the electric chair, and a few people from the nexus need to go to the party today. then an insured move to the nexus, and an uninsured to the campfire for me for today should get us close.
I am straddling the fence so hard on him you'd swear I had a splinter fetish. he's not on my town list though! hold on let me check my power rankings in the qt.
I read straddling the fence and I had dirty thoughts.
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Post #802 (isolation #60) » Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:33 pm
Postby Maruchan »
Feysal wrote:I'm not sure I agree on the door between The Switch and Electric Chair to be closed. It would make more sense to move me to Security Room and then close the door between Electric Chair and Security Room. Otherwise I would pretty much count on the mafia using a spare chit to move me into the Electric Chair just as night begins, making me useless. Closing the door behind me would prevent that.