Modern Family Mafia - Game Over, Man.

[DeltaWave]

Hello everyone! I'm your new mothrax. I'm going to read through the thread and give my opinions after I've considered what has already been posted. If anyone has any questions for me, let me know and I will answer them when I complete my initial assessment.

[DeltaWave]

Sigh, kuribo. You sound so scummy. I want to believe that you are a power-role but the way you have been conducting yourself really screams desperate scum to me, especially your posts on Page 31.

VOTE: Kuribo

[DeltaWave]

In that case,

Vote: kuribo

[DeltaWave]

Katsuki is definitely town from the way he claimed. Kuribo is definitely town because he is. Ignore 1v1, and ignore Kats coming in and derping shortly. Recommence Glowball lynchingz.

What exactly makes you think kuribo is town?

[DeltaWave]

Gandalf why are you so certain that glowball is scum?

[DeltaWave]

Bullet proof vig puts you in a tough spot because if that were true, scum would certainly want to lynch you, but others will be suspicious because bulletproof vig is an awesome fake roleclaim. I'm divided on this. It makes me want to vote for either someone attacking glowball or glowball, just to get information. I need to think about this further. For now,

UNVOTE

I'll vote when I've considered this further...

[DeltaWave]

really? You think that she's such a danger to the town that you're willing to pass up the opportunoty to learn more about two or three others besides her?

that's either shhort sighted or ass backwards. I mean, what is the absolute worst case scenario if she lives the night?

I think we really need to lynch scum tonight. I'm going to go back and read the past day over again and see if anything pops out at me.

[DeltaWave]

Kuribo, are you a trucker? Cause you have the mouth of one, lol.

I'm leaning toward a glowball lynch. I'm sorry, glowball, I'd like to believe you but bulletproof vig is too risky a roleclaim. If you really are town and we lynch you, that sucks. If you are scum though, leaving you alive would be really detrimental to the town. I'm going to hold off on my vote to look at LLD and see what I think about that line of discussion. I'll report back at some point today.

[DeltaWave]

It's too apologetic and he's stating the obvious.

What specific things make Farrun scum?

I'm slightly apologetic because I'm not certain that glowball is scum, but the nature of her roleclaim is pushing me toward a vote on her. It's in my nature to be polite.

[DeltaWave]

Yeah, my phone always has Mafiascum up and online, so I don't think it ever looks like I log off >.>b

I set it to not show when I'm online because I was tired of getting in trouble for that.

DELTA

DONT BE POLITE

GIVE IN TO YOUR ANGER

JOIN THE DARK SIDE, LUKE

I'm always polite. I'm here to kill scum in the most gentlemanly way possible.

Also welcome GreyICE! Thank you for replacing in.

[DeltaWave]

From what I've seen, the two top contenders for my vote in this Day are glowball and LLD. I will have to vote Glowball because of the bulletproof vig claim. I don't know if Glowball is bulletproof vig/SK/mafia or what, but if I am wrong and do not vote glowball then the damage that could be done would be immense. I'm going to have to vote Glow again.

VOTE: VOTE: Glowball

[DeltaWave]

Glow can't kill tonight?

Wow that's a fuckin fail wagon

Unvote:
Vote: LLD

What do you think the chances are that bulletproof vig is a fakeclaim?

[DeltaWave]

she does damage tonight --> we kill her --> she loses if she is the SK

Let me draw out some possibilities here.

(1) Glowball is telling the truth and is odd-night bulletproof vig.
(2) Glowball is a serial-killer.
(3) Glowball is scum.
(4) Glowball is town-aligned vanilla or PR and is claiming bulletproof vig for some reason.

Possibility four is in there for the sake of being complete but I don't think it's likely.

So obviously a glowball lynch would be bad in Option 1, but not in Option 2 or 3. So to me, it's a more conservative bet to do a glowball lynch today. There's less risk associated with it.

Quilford, do you have any quotes or anything that make you believe that Option 1 is more likely than 2 or 3?

[DeltaWave]

EBWOP: I should clarify what I mean by "bad." I guess a more accurate word is "unfavorable"; I see vig as being a potentially detrimental role to the town because they have a more likely chance of killing a townie than they do killing scum.

[DeltaWave]

glowball lynch is bad in Option 2. We're killing someone who wants scum's deaths almost as much as we do.

You're saying that serial killers want to take out scum more than they do town PRs?

[DeltaWave]

Why do you see NS's post as a scumtell? Is there something I'm missing here?

[DeltaWave]

Why do you see NS's post as a scumtell? Is there something I'm missing here?

Fucking what do you think of Fate, mr. obvscum?

Not sure yet. I've been focusing mostly on glowball and LLD, I'll have to examine Fate's slot later. What makes you think my slot is scum?

[DeltaWave]

Why do you see NS's post as a scumtell? Is there something I'm missing here?

Fucking what do you think of Fate, mr. obvscum?

Not sure yet. I've been focusing mostly on glowball and LLD, I'll have to examine Fate's slot later. What makes you think my slot is scum?

"I replaced in and focused only on the two leading wagons... Why do you think I'm scum?"

This statement is a complete misrepresentation for two reasons.

(1) Have you completely forgotten my vote on Kuribo that I placed shortly after I joined? I'm focusing on the two leading wagons

right now

, but clearly I have considered other targets and even voted for them.

(2) There are three leading wagons actually. LLD, Glowball and Gandalf.

A townie would not need to misrepresent my position to push for my lynch. Trying to be deceptive is probably the biggest scumtell in my opinion, and here you go on two counts of it. You are definitely scum.

DW needs to DIE.

Farside and I both agree that DW's pushing of the CLAIM and not glowball's ACTIONS is really scummy (and pushing this particular claim is scummy in and of itself). We also suspected mothrax anyway.

We still prefer LLD for teh lynchingz today, but DW dying would be a joyous thing as well.

I wonder, in what strange world is focusing on a

bulletproof vig

claim "really scummy"?

I'm starting to see a pattern here. The glowball lynch was pushed for, and it didn't go through, so you want to lynch LLD... now that LLD isn't gaining much traction, you want to switch to me... it sounds like you're just interested in getting a lynch through.

The fact that GreyICE is playing follow the leader doesn't give him any townpoints either.

At this stage, I think the scumteam consists of GreyICE, Farrun, and Kuribo. The SK is Glowball.

[DeltaWave]

Yay a follow the leader bandwagon

[DeltaWave]

This shit is a distraction. Much like Kuribo and Glowball were a distraction.

Do either of you like being compared to Kuribo and Glowball?

Being suspicious of a bulletproof vig claim is not a distraction

[DeltaWave]

This shit is a distraction. Much like Kuribo and Glowball were a distraction.

Do either of you like being compared to Kuribo and Glowball?

Being suspicious of a bulletproof vig claim is not a distraction

That is true. It's discussing the game, I am starting to think that LLD doesn't want us to discuss the game at all. She just comes in and tells us to stop getting distracted like she is anxious for a lynch and adds very little for someone complaining about distractions.

UNVOTE:

I'm noticing that too.

Also GreyICE what are you on?

[DeltaWave]

You know what this post is MISSING?

A vote.

Here, let me fix that for you.

Vote: DW

BTW Farrun is still scum, but is the only correct scum read on here (distancing attempt anyone?)

Hopping on a bandwagon, with no reasoning, for self-preservation purposes?

yeah that's scummy

VOTE: Lady Lambadelta

[DeltaWave]

Isn't that what you just did?

I mean, you never had a problem with her scumminess until she voted you

There are few things scummier than hopping on a bandwagon without any reason at all. That's reason enough to vote for someone.

BTW this puts LLD at L-1

[DeltaWave]

no, but you called her out on that already and didn't drop the vote then.

why? What were you waiting for? You were obviously bitthurt enough about it to still ne upset just now. Why didn't you vote then?

did you need to wait in order to make it not look like OMGUS?

did you want to see if her bandwagon gained traction before hopping on?,

were you reluctant to bus your scum buddy?

I waited until I had more time to think about it. Tuesday/Wednesdays are usually busy for me. I think you're reading too far into it.

[DeltaWave]

or maybe I'm not reading enough into it

oh shiiiiiiitttttt

[DeltaWave]

I voted you because you called out a scum team and an SK, and

DIDNT VOTE FOR A SINGLE ONE OF THEM

At this stage, I think the scumteam consists of GreyICE, Farrun, and Kuribo. The SK is Glowball.

From what I've seen, the two top contenders for my vote in this Day are glowball and LLD. I will have to vote Glowball because of the bulletproof vig claim. I don't know if Glowball is bulletproof vig/SK/mafia or what, but if I am wrong and do not vote glowball then the damage that could be done would be immense. I'm going to have to vote Glow again.

VOTE: VOTE: Glowball

Sigh, kuribo. You sound so scummy. I want to believe that you are a power-role but the way you have been conducting yourself really screams desperate scum to me, especially your posts on Page 31.

VOTE: Kuribo

derp, voted for 2 out of 4 of them, but nice try scum

[DeltaWave]

after the bandwagons already had steam, of course

Nope. Right before I voted Glowball, the vote count was:

glowball (2): gandalf5166, SpyreX
gandalf5166 (3): RisingPhoenix, Nobody Special, glowball
Lady Lambdadelta (4): Fate, Farrun, Quilford, kuribo
Farrun (1): Lady Lambdadelta
Fate (1): GreyICE

Glowball was the #3 wagon so if I wanted to jump on a wagon that had steam, I would have just voted LLD or Gandalf

[DeltaWave]

and the glowball wagon has been so on again and off again that you may as well say it's been rolling all game

and further, your sad little vote against me offered no reasoning. You say I was scummy, but never state why. A fan of easy lynches, are you?

my vote was in response to a post you made right before mine, claiming that you were giving nexus the cop investigation. i found your claim to be desperate and scummy

[DeltaWave]

DW, you didn't vote for anyone Ina post in Which you call out a group of people as a team.

Generally, if you were seeking the lynch of one of those people, you'd have voted them.

Instead, you DON'T vote, and then vote hop opportunistically onto ME, the first chance you get.

LOL, I had my vote on Glowball when I made that post. At this point you'll probably say anything to avoid a lynch.

[DeltaWave]

... Yeah, and that makes my point anyless correct?

Flail harder scum.

It does make it less correct. You asked why I would post a list of scumreads and not vote for any. Problem is, I was voting for one of them. You know you're at L-1 and you can tell you will be lynched so you're trying to make up shit to avoid getting killed today.

[DeltaWave]

Gimme the investigation

[DeltaWave]

I never claimed vanilla

[DeltaWave]

Nah man pass me the investigation

Trust me you will not regret it

[DeltaWave]

Nah man pass me the investigation

Trust me you will not regret it

lolimseriouslydoubtingmytownreadonyoucauseyoureclearlyanidiotanywayssomyargumentsayingyouweretownthatwasbasedonyouhavingabrainisprettyinvalid

That turned out being longer than I thought it was going to be, but I'm too lazy to add spaces.

Your reads seem to be based on whatever emotion you happen to be feeling, so I don't much care what you think

[DeltaWave]

I am strongly against a DW lynch

[DeltaWave]

ITS NOT A HIDER CLAIM.

Its even more special than that.

I'm a bodyguard. That ALSO dies if they protect scum.

Kuribo N1, YOU last night.

If you want the flavor and all that well go for it.

IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHY IN THE HELL THIS HAPPENED JERKS GO AHEAD AND COME FORWARD

You're saying that you RB'ed Kuribo N1?

[DeltaWave]

Yeaaa lets just make that DW.

That'd be swimmingly.

Were you roleclaiming RB when you said you targeted kuribo N1?

[DeltaWave]

Delta you suck as much as Glowball.

Do you have ANY idea what's going on?

I know more about what's going on than you do. I'm looking for a straight answer from spyre.

[DeltaWave]

I am a bodyguard. That dies protecting scum as well.

I am NOT a roleblocker.

Unvote

This is JUST FOR A MINUTE HERE

Who did you bodyguard last night?

[DeltaWave]

....

Santa claus

Yeah who did you bodyguard?

[DeltaWave]

Haha just wanted to confirm his bodyguard target

because i dont think he did that to anyone

because I roleblocked him last night (mothrax roleblocked kuribo before I replaced in)

lol spyrex

VOTE: SpyreX

[DeltaWave]

I'm a town roleblocker. And SpyreX, you're BSing because I roleblocked you last night.

[DeltaWave]

oh spyrex i caught you so hard

[DeltaWave]

FATE

If you vote spyrex I'll RB GreyICE for you!

[DeltaWave]

Delta you confirming you roleblocked Kuribo N1 I guess right?

That's correct (mothrax did it)

[DeltaWave]

Good lord you WATCHED me go to Kuribo and then just had DW claim the RB.

Unless you think it was some kind of SUPER SEXY QUADRA RB what in the hell do you think happened?

And him blocking me last night isn't SCUM FOUND as much as cheeky OHH LOOK FATE ISNT CLEAR TOO.

Except you are regardless and DOUBLE ARE when GI flips scum.
(<3)

You roleclaimed, I showed that it was fabricated, simple

[DeltaWave]

You claimed you didn't get roleblocked last night, but that is hilariously false because I roleblocked you

[DeltaWave]

You miss that part where I don't get action successful messages and, now, presumably action failed messages?

so you claim

[DeltaWave]

I'm fine with a GI lynch or a Spyre lynch

I will roleblock the one that doesn't get lynched

[DeltaWave]

HEY DELTAWAVE


I GOT A QUESTION FOR YA

YESTERDAY, YOU ASKED ME TO PASS YOU MY COP INVESTIGATION

BUT IF YOU'RE A PRO-TOWN ROLEBLOCKER, WHY WOULD YOU ASK FOR IT? YOU WOULDN'T GET TO USE BOTH ROLES

I thought I could use both roles?

[DeltaWave]

If GI flips scum then I'm totally roleblocking Spyre
if GI flips town then I dont know what I'm going to do but i'll figure it out! probably gonna roleblock spyre lol

[DeltaWave]

Sorry, Fate.

I am a Vanilla Townie.

You just killed yourself.

I need to get the town straightened out once this fiasco is over.

P.S. KILL DELTA WAVE HOLY FUCK

Let's see if you really are VT, because I'm pretty sure you're scum

[DeltaWave]

also seriously glowball don't vig me

[DeltaWave]

ok will do

UNVOTE:
VOTE: GreyICE

GreyICE, you better be scum or else I'm going to get pissed.

[DeltaWave]

GLOWBALL IF YOU ARE SERIOUSLY A VIG DON'T KILL ME FOR I AM THE ROLEBLOCKERRRRRR

[DeltaWave]

I CANT WAIT TO SEE THE FLIP ON THIS ONE

[DeltaWave]

SO MUCH SUSPENSE
SO MUCH TENSION
SO MUCH ALL-CAPS

[DeltaWave]

Sockmouth?

I approve.

Unvote, Vote: Kuribo

Real simple: no tee hee or OMG I DIDNT KNOW WHOOO - kuribo flips town, you shoot kat in the face.
kuribo flips scum, shoot from your wagon. I'd say gandalf.

HEY SPYREX OLD BUDDY OLD FRIEND

YOU SAY YOU WEAK BODYGUARDED ME NIGHT 1 AND KNEW ME TO BE 100% TOWN DAY 2, YET WHEN KATSUMI CLAIMED VAGUELY TO HAVE EVIDENCE THAT I WAS SCUM, YOU VOTED FOR ME AND TOLD GLOWBALL TO KILL GANDALF


WASSUPWITDAT?!


ALSO, HOLY SHIT, RISINGPHOENIX AND NOBODY SPECIAL ARE STILL IN THIS GAME?!

SpyreX is ridiculously obvscum at this point, he should be the target of the next day's lynch

UNLESS GLOWBALL SHOOTS HIM (glowball please shoot him)

[DeltaWave]

Option A = Glowball is telling the truth and the mafia is setting her up.
Option B = Glowball is a scum sandwich made with extra scum on top.

OPTION B = MORE LIKELY

VOTE: Glowball

ALSO I WANT TO KILL SPYREX BUT I CAN ONLY VOTE FOR ONE PERSON AT A TIME

[DeltaWave]

Option A = Glowball is telling the truth and the mafia is setting her up.
Option B = Glowball is a scum sandwich made with extra scum on top.

OPTION B = MORE LIKELY

VOTE: Glowball

ALSO I WANT TO KILL SPYREX BUT I CAN ONLY VOTE FOR ONE PERSON AT A TIME

This makes sense as NS/Delta scum obv.

Yeah because your claim of being a bulletproof vig who is being set up by the mafia is totally legit.

[DeltaWave]

Mass claiming right now is not a good idea. We need to kill scum tonight before we can consider a mass claim.

[DeltaWave]

Mass claiming right now is not a good idea. We need to kill scum tonight before we can consider a mass claim.

and how many scum do you think are left?

I am quite afraid this could be lylo or the day before, are you not worried? I mean you put me at L-2 pretty fast.

You have a point about L-2. I want to hear from that scumball SpyreX before I decide to place my vote. I will unvote FOR NOW but I will be back with a vengeance later maybe, if I don't decide to vote for SpyreX. SpyreX is so much scum

UNVOTE: Glowball

[DeltaWave]

KURIBO WHO DID YOU SEND IT TO

IT BETTER NOT HAVE BEEN SPYREX OH MY GOD

[DeltaWave]

I blocked the shit out of SpyreX

goddamn I want spyrex to be lynched today

[DeltaWave]

so is everyone gonna just stop posting and let the scum coast from here?

fuck that

I got a post right here

VOTE: spyrex

[DeltaWave]

every minute that spyrex remains alive is another minute that I AM EXTREMELY ANNOYED

[DeltaWave]

the thing is, delta, i can think of very few scenarios where spyrex isn't scum

the problem is that most of those involve you being scum

pro tip I'm not scum

spyrex is scummy as fuck. check page 50 for reference. not only was he acting scummy, we've got several confirmed townies who were like SPYREX IS SCUM so maybe we should LYNCH THE FUCK OUT OF SPYREX RIGHT NOW

YOU POSTED JUST BEFORE I DID. I SEE THAT YOU AGREE.

ALL ABOARD THE SPYREWAGON EVERYONE

[DeltaWave]

delta, if you're telling the truth about your role and what you did last night, then glowball could very well be a vig*

because you had been told not to block spyrex, he probably would have done the kill himself and gone after someone other than Fate

*again, not likely, and less likely that it's semi-bulletproof, one-way lover, odd-night vig. there are a thousand other explanations that we can't possibly know

I did block spyrex last night.

However I don't believe spyrex would have sent in the kill himself because I said that I was going to roleblock him no matter what the fuck happened because he was scummy as all fuck and I didn't have a better target. I still think Glowball is just regular ol scum.

[DeltaWave]

SPYREX IS NOW AT L-1.

MY DREAMS ARE ONE VOTE CLOSER TO COMING TRUE.

[DeltaWave]

so here's my line of thinking:

scum is either spyrex and glowball

This option is correct.

spyrex got fooled by fate's faketrack and defended LLD like mad
glowball, i dont need to say more

[DeltaWave]

so, delta, are you saying you don't think NS and SpyreX could be scum together?

Maybe it's true but I'd be surprised. Why do people think NS is scum? I get a null read on him

Or glowball and RP?

I might go to that if for some reason spyre flipped town

Or gandalf and SpyreX?

I'm not seeing it

Or Delta and NS?

um no

Or NS and gandalf?

that would blow my fucking mind




p.s. what are you getting at w/your second post? that glow is scum but spyrex is not?

[DeltaWave]

@ NS-- ISO yourself, you know why you are scum

Anyway...

Here's the thing: NS and Delta make the MOST sense as scum.

For a second humor me, seriously and believe my claim.

I am an odd night bullet proof vig (as long as spyrex is alive)
It makes sense that night 1 there was only 1 kill because they probably tried to test my claim
Night 2 there was a kill that I NEVER claimed and couldn't possibly be mine
Night 3 there's only my kill

I am an easy target
I am an easy mislynch and that is reason enough for them to try to set me up.
Scum don't want the vig here, PERIOD...

BUT WAIT

If they cannot lynch me, who did they turn to? SPYREX!

Delta and NS hopped on SpyreX. Obviously they lynch him, then they can finally kill me.
OBVSCUM

Not to mention, LLD called NS town for gut reasons and NS said "I just don't think LLD is scum."

We NEED to lynch scum today. That is just a fact.

You cannot lynch SpyreX because you set me up for certain death tonight.
NS is a common link who has done nothing this whole game. Let's do this right please.

Oh my GOD glowball 100% of your argument is self-preservation

[DeltaWave]

FOR SOME REASON Delta is defending him passionately.

Yeah, I said that I'm not seeing NS as scum and for some reason this is considered a passionate defense. Wut? Provide quotes from me showing that I'm defending NS.

[DeltaWave]

sigh fine i'll hammer glowball but WE BETTER KILL SPYREX TOMORROW

UNVOTE: SpyreX
VOTE: Kuribo

[DeltaWave]

ROFL I fucked that up. I woke up like 2.8 minutes ago

UNVOTE: Kuribo
VOTE: GLOWBALL

[DeltaWave]

phoenix, take that shit I gave you last night and use it, it could be the difference between life and death

delta, if you roleblock phoenix, you're scum for sure, and I'll string you so fast it'll make your face spin

you've got three guesses as to who i'm going to roleblock and two of those guesses dont count

[DeltaWave]

sounds like you should invent a cure for herpes tonight, kuribo

[DeltaWave]

Well YEA I blocked the bodyguard again even though a kill has never been stopped bergbleep

[DeltaWave]

Cool so we're clear now on what has to happen.

Yeah, we need to lynch you Spyre.

Either that or Gandalf.

[DeltaWave]

Actually hold up how does that vanilla work? Would it get rid of the mafia kill?

I think it just removes any special abilities.

So a vanilla scum (e.g. mafia goon) wouldn't be affected. A scum rolecop would turn into a goon. At least, I think that's how it works.

[DeltaWave]

Add in the chance of daytalk explaining how quickly DW was there to explain what happened to NS and blood.

What are you talking about?

By the way, NS might be trying to get all buddy with me but I consider him one of my suspects for today. I find his attempts to team up with me to be suspicious as fuck.

[DeltaWave]

Please, for those of us not paying close enough attention, PLEASE tell me where I've tried to "buddy up" to you.

End of yesterday dood.

[DeltaWave]

Please tell me you mean something other than this post.

Nope that's pretty much what I meant

[DeltaWave]

SpyreX, judging by your charts you ended up on the same bandwagon as LLD (while she was alive.) Your arguments mean nothing.

[DeltaWave]

He's saying that YOUR vote aligns with LLD....... Don't think that's relevant.

That's what I was getting at but it's indeed relevant because it shows the uselessness of that argument.

SpyreX I am willing to consider that you may be town for now. I am looking hard at NS and Gandalf though.

[DeltaWave]

(if you think thats what the argument is about, welp)

Ohh look the bonds are being broken. Or we'll call this "hope Gandalf or RP throws a vote down for piggy backing"

oh yeah i'm suspecting people in mafia, how controversial

[DeltaWave]

No, he's talking about you bussing me.

Do try to keep up.

Yeah, I'm being sarcastic to illustrate spyrex's permanent tunnel vision

If I don't directly criticize you, I must be your scumbuddy. if I say that I suspect you I'm your scumbuddy

Basically no matter what I do i'm your scumbuddy apparently lol

[DeltaWave]

DW + NS

4 evah

<3

[DeltaWave]

I would just like to take this opportunity to point out that we're on page 69.

That being said, I see two viable lynches today: SpyreX and Rising Phoenix.

gandalf: If forced to pick between those two, who would you lynch?

Delta: Same question.

RP: Who would you like to lynch today?

SpyreX: Well, I know you wanna lynch Delta. Who would your second choice be?

Well we've got six days so I'm going to quit tunneling SpyreX for the first time since D3 and really look hard at other people. I'll have to read through some stuff.

UNVOTE: SpyreX for now

goddamn it feels weird to type that

[DeltaWave]

Especially since you weren't voting.

HOLY SHIT YOU ARE RIGHT

it's gotten to the point where i'm so used to voting spyrex that it's now committed to muscle memory

[DeltaWave]

I think those at home who still think I'm scum should assume that, given a vanillaizer, if I were scum I'd have targetted one of our two claimed PRs with it since, yknow, it's better for me in the long run.
Specifically, I'd have targetted Deltawave since roleblockers are obnoxious in the hand of town from a scum perspective.
But I didnt.

He must be my buddy!
Or I'm town.

Regardless, I think we should lynch him <_<

Yeah, if I were the scum roleblocker (which I'm guessing is your theory because SpyreX was undisputedly roleblocked on the nights I said he was), then why would I RB a bodyguard (assuming that's what he really is) over an inventor? Yeah because as scum RB I would really want those vanillaizers floating around, right? Doesn't make sense.

[DeltaWave]

That's much iffier logic. How was Spy "indisputably" roleblocked? And actually, yes, as scum you WOULD want those vanillaizers floating around.

He said he was, yeah?

I'm not clear on this, vanillaizers take the ability to NK away, yes? Which means that someone could potentially take down the entire scumteam with them?

[DeltaWave]

No, he didn't. He specifically said he doesn't receive feedback on whether he's roleblocked.

And vanillaizers have never ever taken away the NK. The NK is a FACTIONAL ability.

I'll have to go back and check but I thought there was a time where his target died, indicating that he was RB'ed.

Anyway don't get focused on the vanillaizers. Kuribo could also make one-shot cop investigations. Clearly I would have tried to block that.

[DeltaWave]

No, he didn't. He specifically said he doesn't receive feedback on whether he's roleblocked.

And vanillaizers have never ever taken away the NK. The NK is a FACTIONAL ability.

I'll have to go back and check but I thought there was a time where his target died, indicating that he was RB'ed.

Anyway don't get focused on the vanillaizers. Kuribo could also make one-shot cop investigations. Clearly I would have tried to block that.

Not if you have a godfather on your team. That and, as a claimed roleblocker, we both know who'd get lynched if kuribo ended up roleblocked. My point is, there are lots of reasons why you wouldn't use it on kuribo.

I'm not really seeing it. I could try to argue my way out of a roleblock on kuribo but I couldn't argue my way out of a cop investigation.

Also the godfather thing is a stretch.

Point is, I'm not scum and any situation in which I am scum requires there to be weird shit at play here.

[DeltaWave]

Yes, it does require a certain scenario. But there are SO MANY scenarios that it doesn't leave you even semi-cleared.

All plausible scenarios have me as town.

Regardless, I'm going to go back and read through the thread some more.

[DeltaWave]

We might be in MyLo right now so I would recommend that we really think this one out before voting.

[DeltaWave]

Hey great job on the quicklynch guys, it really worked out for us.

[DeltaWave]

I was pretty surprised when I came back to MS to check on the thread. I was like, yeah SpyreX is scum but I should re-read some stuff to make sure I'm not tunneling. Then I come back and the townies quicklynched me. Not exactly what I was expecting.