Encore Mafia: Mod Mayhem - ENDGAME: LORDS OF THE DUST

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NFW am I going through to find all of dram's games since he doesn't have them linked.

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Well poop. The only person that gets removed from uncertainty of being SK right now is UK. The other 5-6 or however many are still options.

PREDIT: lolwut?

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Hmmmm. In that case, it eliminates Empking from being SK. Did you ever use a SK besides that game?

Dram: please link to games where you used SK. If you leave one out and we find out, you'll be autolynched.

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P sure DEFCON 3 had role PMs.

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I dunno... but I played DEFCON3 and definitely had a role PM.

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Regardless, I'd like everyone to post their SK roles from previous games. Role PMs, too, preferably.

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they can link to another post in the game that has the role PMs, though

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Yeahhhh. So I'll go out and say Emp/UK aren't SK here.

Let's keep narrowing it down.

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Mod: in the case of a Smalltown game, would you use the specific roles from that game? Or would you take the smalltown setup and create a role separate from alignment?

PREDIT: Oh shit.

Empking, claim in your next post or die.

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Was beginning to wonder if we had any VTs out there.

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No I mean it works -- Funky Kong, VT = Mafia Goon, VT or whatever.

I forgot CSL was ever in this game tbqh.

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What game is that from?

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NS -- thoughts on my claim of masons with Katsuki?

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stop doing this defeatist routine, it's old as fuck

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Katsuki has given me reads in the QT, but she's lurking like a boss here >:(

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Well, the role PM doesn't really mention how to deal with Godfather/millers.

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http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p2387575

there's the post

the exact wording is "if they have ulterior motives (aka are not town), you'll know right away"

so that sounds like it includes Godfathers

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I'll PM Andrius just to make sure.

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The more I think about it, the more uneasy I am about dram's claim. It's like he saw a dead scum, then wanted to take credit for it without

really

taking credit for it. There's no way to prove his claim, either.

FTR, Katsuki stated in the mason QT that he dislikes LLD and esurio the most, and could also see UK as the third. He asked me about my read on dram. That's about the full extent of our QT conversation so far, other than me bitching at him to actually go post content.

His response was like LOL DO IT FOR ME

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Hmmm.

Unvote

for now until I get answers to my questions from Andrius.

I PMed him about my role, and I also want to know about how he'd handle smalltown roles as the mod.

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If I were Andrius (and this is outguess the mod, but oh well I'm bored) I'd take one look at Mass Effect Mafia (which ended in a draw/game called due to mod error) and see that it's smalltown and want nothing to do with it. This makes esurio less likely to be SK.

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NS -- thoughts on my claim of masons with Katsuki?

Withholding thoughts until Kats claims, too.

Pretty obvious at this point that I'm linked to Reck.

go, NS

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are you shitting me

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The more I think about it, the more uneasy I am about dram's claim. It's like he saw a dead scum, then wanted to take credit for it without

really

taking credit for it. There's no way to prove his claim, either.

There is a way to prove my claim, using my Lovers Card to link today's lynch to someone. Of course if I do that I'm basically vanilla.
I've already posted the list of my possible SK roles =_=
I,ll go fish em up.

wait, what?

This is actually a way to confirm yourself as TOWNIER THAN TOWN and make this game ezmode by linking two unconfirmeds to each other. We should do this.

BTW, Cannibal (regular SK) is the only thing dram could be, here. The other three don't work.

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Okay, so esurio could be a SK.

Dram, I propose you link esurio & either SK, NS, or Plum.

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esurio, here's the thing

It can't be Plum. Her SKs are double-kill and day-kill.
It could be dram. But he's the one who can confirm himself.
It could be NS.
It could be you, esurio.

I'm not seeing anyone else it could be, here. If you can tell me who dram should link besides NS, I'm willing to listen.

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Okay, yeah, I'm fine with that. Good chances of hitting scum, too.

Dram, can you link NS & LLD for us?

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Dram: select two of the players to link and let us know when it's done so we can lynch one. We'll almost certainly nail scum this way.

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@Whoever asked: I chose Parama for Hanged Man because I had a scumread on him. There's a reason he"s always mehish in my posted reads, it's because I don't wanna call him scum to avoid getting shot for catching a scum (not that anybody would ever believe me...)

wait.
but uh
if you getting shot resulted in him getting shot instead why would you be so scared to call him scum and draw the night kill?

unvote

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It's not like I asked to get fucking silenced and have Reck be all "DERP ESURIO IS LURKING AND MUST BE THE SK" and be too dumb/scum to drop it when I explained.

i

did drop it

, in fact I asked for NS/LLD to be linked IIRC
this entire game is full of WAH WAH WAH DEFEATISM WAH WAH WAH and it's pissing me off
man the fuck up, we have a dead scum, and it's only D3, this isn't "lost"

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how is that your trump card
and where did I say you should claim it and be out in the open

drawing the NK by tunneling on scum if you THOUGHT he was scum means a dead scumbag and a conftown in you

I still doubt you were a NK choice, but if you use your lovers ability then it doesn't matter bc you're conftown

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DRAM DID YOU SUBMIT THE LINK YES OR NO

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so I lied about that other post being my last post.


But I would take a good hard look at who's not on my wagon right now.

This game stagnated like fuck as soon as I stopped posting.

Scum doesn't want to make the 1v1 trade for their buddy LLD, obviously.

And look who's staying far far away from my wagon despite "thinking" I'm scum practically all game?

And look who's not on my wagon despite being "so sure" that I'm the SK?

Empking. Reck.

Lynch Empking with fucking fire tomorrow. And I'd take Reck with a very large grain of salt if I were you. Something is very... not right, there.

(Then again, I

did

say I was going to root for scum, so maybe you should just keep ignoring me like you've been doing all game. )

Except I'm not SO SURE you're the SK, which is why I told dram to link LLD/NS.

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DRAMONIC.

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Fine, it's done. Let's move on.

Vote: esuriospiritus

Dead scum or dead SK, here we go.

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Then UK is scum.

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If both of you flip town Empking is a dead man.

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Vote: UK

She 100% has to be scum now, unless we don't actually have a Serial Killer or I added up the number of scums wrong.

8 alive, and we're looking at either 2:1:5, 3:5, or 3:1:4. The lack of second-kills on N2 and N3 is making me seriously think the SK hunt might've been completely wrong.

In any case, UK has to be scum with the number of confirmed townies we have so this is just PoE at this point

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Would also be okay voting NL today to remove more unconfirmeds.

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1. Plum - ???
6. xReckonerx - masonizer-cop
9. UncertainKitten - untargetable
11. Empking - VT
12. Nikanor - some weird reviver thing
15. dramonic - one-shot lovermaker/one-shot redirector
16. Katsuki - VT (/masons with reck)

did we ever get Plum's claim?

I have no clue where the fuck that kill went. None of the claims and none of the flips explain why there was an extra kill.
17. Nicki Minaj

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dram, is there a scum lover-maker in any of your setups?

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It was a supergambit.

Seriously though this game isn't making sense unless scum are seriously underpowered by a full person. It just goes to show my town reads aren't great

I'm p sure dram has a lovermaker role in his scum rolelist but now I'm SUPERDUPERDRUNK so I won't bother with it now

I think there was a scum lovermaker in either OOT/WoW

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because I've been in class and have nothing new to say.

UK is scum, it's the only logical conclusion based on PoE

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LOLLLLLLLL

SO either UK or Plum is lying

Plum makes people UK's role; UK's role could be town or scum.

I'd give it higher odds that UK is telling the truth about her role regardless of alignment and Plum is fake claiming.

Vote: Plum

Because if there is a SK/extra shot out there we need to kill it ASAP

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Well unless Plum

is

a mafia vig it seems fairly null

Though Emp knowing that off-hand is bad, as if someone in the scum QT pointed it out.

But all of that relies on Plum being scum.

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KATS GTF IN HERE AND VOTE PLUM

GOD

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WAT

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Why are we still ignoring the fact what nik claimed to be and what happened to him are pretty fucking different.
It seems kind of RELEVANT

I'm pretty sure it's the same role, maybe we just understood it wrong.

Regardless, he can be dealt with any other time. Right now, we have pretty much confscum in Plum.

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Do you know how many games he has?

No. I will check them overnight or something but not right now when we have confscum at like L-1.

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Just hammer Plum. Mod can replace Nik overnight bc they're conftown anyway

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Oh right.

Someone fucking hammer. Where the fucking hell is dram?

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Why

Plum literally has to be scum or else UK/Emp is.

And it's not lylo so this is not gg

what are you hesitating for

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I LITERALLY POSTED TWO MINUTES AFTER YOU DRAMONIC
WHAT THE FUCK

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I was on LoL and was just checking in.
If you can point out to me at least 1 acceptable reason why we should not lynch Nik whose claim and role don't even echo each other I'm all ears.

because his claim and his role do match each other

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He's supposed to be replaced by a different account, yet what we are seeing here is two different account both playing in the game.
Reck, are you his buddy? =S

go look in Nik's games and tell me where you see any other role that even close to resembles this one and is scum

BAZINGA hammer

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I understand that as a possibility. What I'm skeptical about is that while he can explain it poorly, I doubt Andrius would also apply the role differently than how it was created.

Dram.

LIKE I SAID, we know what Nik's ability can do, so unless you can look through his games and find some kind of weird unlynchable/resurrecting scum role, he's fucking clear

now HAMMER PLUM and stop dragging your feet

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WOOOO YEAH FAKECLAIMING MASON AS SCUM FTW

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scum didn't play well?

Parama distanced well, I managed to save Katsuki with a well-timed claim, and also managed to ward off an Empking lynch through hardcore defending...but nah, you're right, scum didn't play well

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It's funny how everyone is coming in after the game and blaming everyone else for the loss...this happens all the fucking time recently. People refuse to give any credit to scum and just want to bawwwww about how the town derped or whatever their particular excuse may be. And everyone comes in and goes BAWWWW I CALLED THE SCUMTEAM RIGHT AND STUFF.

Bottom line is that the scumteam survived WITH 3/4 MEMBERS ALIVE due to strategic play. Parama only died due to dumb luck and for all the people claiming they were fucking clairvoyant, it's funny how we still managed to win

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Would you like me to point out the very specific plays in this game that caused town to lose/scum to win and can be attributed to the scumteam?

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oh yeah Nik BTW thanks for failing to actually claim your role correctly so that nobody knew you would die at the end of D4 and we could push a lynch through under the guise of "but it's not even LYLO"

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And how is that different from "great scum play"

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Actually this is exactly what we're talking about on the show next week, because I don't think a town team that plays perfectly/incredibly well can ever lose, and that all scum victories solely RELY on town fucking up bigtime.

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"Oftentimes, it seems that town comes from the perspective that they should play perfectly and any deviation from that is a mistake by town. Maybe this is an okay way to view mafia, but I think it ignores how an effective scum team can influence whether or not town makes a mistake."

did you miss this

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In any case, D1 was really fun and Empking was a great scumbuddy but fuck you Kats.

Good game all and TUNE INTO MASHUPS AND MAFIA THIS COMING FRIDAY TO HEAR ME/FARADAY DUKE IT OUT LIVE ON THE AIR