Encore Mafia: Mod Mayhem - ENDGAME: LORDS OF THE DUST

[UncertainKitten]

Unvote LLD

Why the fuck do you think that was cool? Are you fucking brain dead? Do you want yet ANOTHER god damn day of half the playerlist lurking through a quicklynch and not being held accountable?

Jesus Christ, I can't tell if you're ludicrously dumb or ludicrously scum!

[UncertainKitten]

It only seems fake because you're being a bullheaded stubborn jackass who can't think for two goddamn seconds past her own fucking reads and actually apply her god damn brain to the game of mafia. I PRAY your scum, because if you're town, your play this game will have been more atrocious than that of vezokpiraka. I KNOW you're not normally this absolutely fucking frustratingly retarded. But God DAMN do your actions not make sense as scum at the moment. You feel like you honestly believe these god damned retarded theories, and that you're going to be a hero to the town. And THAT'S HOW TOWN IS GOING TO FUCKING LOSE. Step back from the god damn game, unvote your god damn self, don't even LOOK at it for the next 24 hours, and fucking check your god damn self.

I'm aware this rant is pretty damn insulting but you need to be slapped back to your fucking senses.

[UncertainKitten]

@Reck: Much as I hate to admit it, this is town LLD at her worst. Not that it'll matter. I'm half a mind to lynch her anyway as a liability to the town unless she gets her head unstuck from her ass. It's fairly firmly entrenched there.

I must admit I'm curious about crossreferencing the Nikanor and LLD wagons. I'll do that when I'm not feeling so frustrated.

[UncertainKitten]

Actually, I wouldn't mind being lynched. Tell me when I'm at L-1 so I can claim. I'm honestly tired of this game. Not going to self vote for you though.

[UncertainKitten]

I am! A lot of things will make sense when I do!

Also, just to do your work for you, my claim can be both scum and town, so if it were to be confirmable, it still wouldn't indicate my alignment :3.

[UncertainKitten]

Also I kind of count LLD's vote as effectively on me, even if she's going to be dumbassed with it for the time being.

[UncertainKitten]

That's fine by me on a personal level though I'm fairly sure that'd be against my wincon. That said, I'm also pretty sure my continued survival is against my wincon. Dunno about LLD. My death MIGHT smarten her up.

[UncertainKitten]

Sorry, that came out jumbled. I feel as if my apathy this game is going to be more damaging to town than my death. I feel that LLD is town, and that her problem is just that she's bad about tunneling and confirmation bias. I think that with my death, she might be wrenched out of her tunnel. That said, I'm unsure if she'll just pick up a different wrong tunnel.

[UncertainKitten]

Can you explain why, Reck? Just curious, it's interesting examining your logic, because sometimes it's really spot on and other times it's really not.

[UncertainKitten]

Well, I did say Reck might be the SK .

[UncertainKitten]

Why my back down was scummy as shit. I mean, between knowing my alignment, and knowing what the results of my actions would be, it feels kind of careless to declare it scumtastic.

[UncertainKitten]

But how does this benefit scum, is what I'm asking?

And, sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant that me knowing my alignment and actions makes me feel like your judgment of scumminess is careless and ill thought out.

[UncertainKitten]

Oh, rite, I'm not voting.

Vote Reck

Eh, I changed my mind regarding the Parama stuff. Reck's reaction to the situation between LLD and me feels like he's desperately trying to grab at a mislynch, and two if he can. He's risking it because he feels he can get away with it. After all, I'm not really in any shape to fight hard against him, and LLD, well, she's good at digging her own holes when she gets emotional.

So, let's Reck lynch for great justice =D? Or UK lynch, that'd be neat too.

@Reck: I might be able to explain the lack of a second kill, but there's so many confounding factors I'm not sure it'd really be that compelling.

Also, Reck, do you not know what a bodyguard does? They usually die in place of the NK target. Sooooo...you're proposing that LLD blocked the kill and...didn't die. Despite being a bodyguard? Very interesting.

[UncertainKitten]

Well, as I said, my lynch is an option. I'm not voting you because you suspect me, I'm voting you because your suspicions are careless and feel like setting up lynches. I see no logical reason why you've concluded that one or both of LLD and I are scum. As far as I can tell, you're just pushing it on sheer force of will and seeing if it sticks. So, we'll see where this goes.

[UncertainKitten]

Actually, it's more because if you critically thought about it, I'd know damn well that backing off would draw attention to myself, likely short circuit a mislynch, and possibly get me lynched. Why does this make sense as scum? Feel free to list your reasons though.

Secondly, I'll admit I don't see you allowing a 50 page D1 to happen. It felt a lot like you were content to let the town tear itself apart rather than actively trying to find scum or get a cohesive town together.

Thirdly, I note that today you seemed interested in pushing LLD to lynch without anyone else checking again for the second day in a row. You never reacted to my statement that I'd prefer town check in first.

Fourthly, I'm Battler Ushiromiya, Townie Untargettable from Umineko Mafia. You'll note that it is entirely possible for me to be Frederika Bernkastel, Mafia Roleblocker, who had an untargettability clause as part of her role. Hence why I said my role was pretty much completely unprovable.

I think that covers everything. Next you'll tell me how my claim is scummy because I'm frightened of being lynched.

[UncertainKitten]

@Katsuki: Yep.

@Reck: Because I want to die. I'm sick of this damn game.

[UncertainKitten]

@Reck: So you're telling me that lynching someone I decided was town would have been more pro town than backing off the lynch and at least trying to find scum? Good to know.

[UncertainKitten]

Well, no, I think it's more that a townie considers all the facts constantly and isn't afraid to revise her opinion. My defeatism isn't because of leaving the "1 v. 1". It's because I honestly stopped caring about this game after Day 1. It's agitating to know the only way I'll get out of this hell is getting lynched.

[UncertainKitten]

@NS: Yeah, I know. It's nice to not have to contribute, isn't it?

[UncertainKitten]

Actually, I had been suspecting it when she started offering the 1 v. 1. The further bullheadedness kept pushing me in that direction. The self vote that brought her to L-1 reeked of a lot of misplaced confidence. As for replacing out, I'm considering it, to be honest. The only issue is if I do that, I've left whoever replaces me with a hell of a bad situation, haven't I? I feel like I should play it to the end, for good or ill.

As for your Goofbash example...well, let me put it like this. Do you see LLD as a player who would pull that off properly? (Also, if you link the game, I'll look at the precise circumstances)

[UncertainKitten]

She's not stupid by any means. Just...I dunno. I'm going to say it boils down to gut for how I feel about the way she presented it. Feel free to castigate me if I end up being wrong.

[UncertainKitten]

Hrm...see, I feel like the difference between what you did in Goofbash and what LLD did here is that you feigned giving up without expecting any results. LLD fully expected both of us to get lynched once she died as town. At least, that's my feeling.

[UncertainKitten]

1. Plum
3. Nobody Special
6. xReckonerx
11. Empking
13. esuriospiritus
15. dramonic
16. Katsuki

You're missing a few people, Reck. I accept that you wouldn't include yourself. Remember that I consider you one of the scum. So my list becomes

1. Plum
3. Nobody Special
11. Empking
13. esuriospiritus
15. dramonic
16. Katsuki

Containing 2 scum and an SK. Out of that list, Plum and esurio are the only two that really register town to me. I'm neutral on dram, something feels weird about him. Kats I'm also neutral leaning scum on. You know my thoughts on Empking and NS.

That said, I get why you're so desperate to make sure one of us dies now. Incidentally...4:1:11? I know we kind of had this discussion earlier but...that seems questionable. Then again, I guess Nikanor makes it 4:1:12.

[UncertainKitten]

EBWOP: Actually, you were missing one person, if we assume you exclude yourself. I'm curious why Kats wasn't on your list.

[UncertainKitten]

Interesting.

[UncertainKitten]

VERY interesting. Does anyone have a link to the role handy, or the game it was in? I don't recall if Nika linked it.

[UncertainKitten]

@dram: Huh? How do you conclude Reck confirmation? I've already offered a possible explanation, just not a certain one.

@Emp: Is that a mini theme, a large theme, what?

[UncertainKitten]

@dram: That's nice. You'll excuse me if my own role provides a satisfactory counter explanation to me no matter what you know or don't know about Reck.

[UncertainKitten]

Either suspecting the right people or appearing townish but not an obvious doc protect. I don't think my towniness really was something questioned seriously until today. In other words, I was going to be hard to lynch.

[UncertainKitten]

EBWOP: That said, I don't feel confident that's what happened, just given my stance on you, Reck, you can imagine that I don't accept the concept of you blocking the night kill.

[UncertainKitten]

I had considered a redirector as well. Though then the SK kill would be missing.

[UncertainKitten]

That seems rather subjective. So what happened to the SK kill?

But, as I said, there were a lot of possibilities for the missing kill.

So, is Nikanor ever planning to grace us with his presence? Or esurio?

[UncertainKitten]

...LLD, why are you still voting yourself?

[UncertainKitten]

I fullclaimed, Reck! Even in my claimpost!

That said, I do not really trust any proof Reck has. I also don't think him scum with this proof would be indicative of Kats' alignment either way.

[UncertainKitten]

Oh my, you've intrigued me, Reck!

[UncertainKitten]

MANZ Reck, you're claim was SO AWESOME it killed the ENTIRE thread :O

[UncertainKitten]

That's...all you have to add, LLD? Please tell me you're at least preparing an actual post.

@Reck: I agree. I'm somewhat dismayed by the lack of activity, is all.

[UncertainKitten]

Hrm...dram, have you linked all your roles yet?

[UncertainKitten]

I try to forget that game, though I'll look up the mechanic at some point.

[UncertainKitten]

Why would it be that, Nika? Could the SK not have shot Parama? Or myself? Hell, the SK shooting me makes more sense than the mafia shooting me, depending on where they were aiming.

[UncertainKitten]

@Reck: Well, does dram have any other redirection roles? Admittedly, the only slot I'd place him in his SK with that, but yeah.

[UncertainKitten]

Incidentally that's why I wanted a list of dram's roles. I find it hard to believe that I have the only role that overlaps as both scum and town.

[UncertainKitten]

Yeah, hence why I want a list of his roles. Not saying he's scum for it, just making sure he doesn't get falsely confirmed.

[UncertainKitten]

Ouch! (Andy poked me. It was rather enjoyable.)

Honestly, I haven't seen anything lately that makes me change my mind. My vote is happy where it is.

I hope esurio gets here soon.

And I'm supposed to believe this is town ;_;.

[UncertainKitten]

I dunno. Mafia is still an alignment, right? I dunno how you newfangled bastard mods do these things.

[UncertainKitten]

Could you link to that post so I can read over it then?

[UncertainKitten]

Explain Evolving SK? (Also possible you have a scum redirector role and didn't realize you were targetting the SK or something, but that's silly)

[UncertainKitten]

Huh...well, being silenced doesn't CLEAR esurio, though it makes her more likely town.

Reck, esurio has showed up, planning to finish your claim?

@esurio: Claims today:
UncertainKitten: Battler Ushiromiya, Townie Untargettable
Lady Lambdadelta: Wall Guard, Bodyguard
Dramonic: Innocent Man, Hanged Man and Lover (Hanged Man redirected kills from Dram to Parama)
Reck: Random information on Kats town

I don't think I forgot anything?

[UncertainKitten]

OK, fair enough, yes, that claim would be suicidal as scum. Incidentally I'm really hating my role right now =D. THANKS ANDRIUS! YOU GET TO BE THE GRAVEDIGGER DEATH MILLER MCSCUMSCUM IN THE NEXT GAME I RUN >=[!

Wanna kill Empking yet? Because I sure do!

Unvote, Vote Empking

[UncertainKitten]

Hrm...yeah, I support a massclaim at this point, myself.

[UncertainKitten]

So I love how at the mention of massclaim everyone who's been lurking lurks harder. What the fuck is wrong with you people?

[UncertainKitten]

Unvote, Vote: Esur

- No possible way that multiple townies are going to shyly remain on Kat without speaking.

Yes, there's totally NO WAY that esurio has not posted on site since her last post here. This might have been relevant if you didn't omit that key fact, Empscum.

[UncertainKitten]

Incidentally, it's disturbing that LLD and Plum think they're both too cool to post in this thread. Particularly LLD who I KNOW has been online with some free time.

[UncertainKitten]

All I know is she hasn't been on site as far as I can tell, and that she was posting elsewhere when she was silenced. It's been 40 hours, and IIRC she's busy during the weekend (I could be wrong).

Feels like you're trying to float a mislynch on shit and I'm calling you on it.

[UncertainKitten]

Hard to keep mafia on the brain when you're apartment hunting/job hunting/packing/cleaning/etc.

That would explain things quite nicely, I think.

[UncertainKitten]

Gee, what I just quoted is a pretty good inidicator. And now you're resorting to crummy rhetoric. Die please.

[UncertainKitten]

Fortunately your opinion is about worth the same amount as the contents of my cat's litterbox, scum~

Maybe when we actually get real players to weigh in we'll pummel you under the votes you deserve~

[UncertainKitten]

"Feels like" is the liar's tool.

Empty rhetoric that does nothing except fling shit at me and hopes it sticks. I've said my piece.

[UncertainKitten]

Yay, I got OMGUS'd! Which is basically the extent of Empking's abilities this game! He was OMGUSing esurio in some ways (not as clearly as a vote:vote situation, but she suspected him). And Empking, if you're too brain damaged to understand why the things you say are worthless shit, I pity you. That said, I'm pretty sure you're actually fairly aware and just playing like a dumbass to piss me off, because you're scum.

[UncertainKitten]

Hey look misdirecting questions that make the issue not about why Empking is scum! THIS WAS TOTALLY UNEXPECTED AND MINDBLOWING =D

[UncertainKitten]

No, but that would explain why I assumed limited access during the weekends. Had to come from somewhere, Scumking.

@esurio: You should vote Empking with me. He's scummier than the bottom of a god damn pond.

[UncertainKitten]

@Reck: Yeah, I know, I'm just frustrated with how god damn dense Empking is being, and how fucking dense YOU'RE being. Do you have a better reason for voting esurio than Empking?

@Empking: This entire game, you've been on the defensive asking pointless fucking questions and not doing a god damn lick of scumhunting on your own. Hell, I've never even seen anything RESEMBLING a case on me from you, much less a case in general. At best you're chaff and at worst you're scum. I'm placing my bet on you being scum.

[UncertainKitten]

I'm not going to dignify any of that with an answer because they're all useless redirecting questions that don't actually advance the game. You're once again going on the defensive asking stupid shit so that people get off you.

[UncertainKitten]

REDIRECTING FROM YOUR SCUMMINESS YOU BLITHERING FUCKING MORON!

[UncertainKitten]

The thing is, you're not actually looking for scum. You're asking pointless questions until I get a fucking anyuerism then disappearing again to do abso-fucking-lutely nothing.

Yanno what? Just go back to doing that, it's better for my head than actually talking to you.

[UncertainKitten]

Day 1. The people voting your wagon. You kept doing this redirection shit. As it stands, I'm the only person you're trying to beat off now. HOPEFULLY the actual townies will get brains and realize how scum you are.

And no, it is sincere, you're just either so stupid as to irritate the living fuck out of me, or you're VERY good at playing aggravatingly stupid as scum. For your sake I'm assuming it's the latter.

[UncertainKitten]

Thank you Reck. I can appreciate that a lot more than what Empking cited. That said, given her V/LA, I don't think her disappearance is scummy per se. Also, speaking of people disappearing, Kats hasn't returned to confirm yet at all, which is intriguing.

And that's fine, I don't expect to be anything but suspect.

So, let me see how my scum pool looks from my perspective.

1. Plum
3. Nobody Special
4. Lady Lambdadelta
11. Empking
13. esuriospiritus
15. dramonic

To be honest, all of these names have some level of suspicion. Of all of them, I like esurio the most because ~*~silence~*~ (which I know does not confirm her, but it feels like it draws unnecessary attention to her when she was generally regarded as town). I like dram second. I honestly could be convinced to lynch any of LLD, NS, Empking, and Plum. LLD would take a bit more convincing, but her magical disappearance has erased those town vibes I got from her little "I'M GOING TO MARTYR MYSELF" trick.

@Empking: It wasn't difficult,

it was fucking pointless

. And I have a bad habit of being easily baited, so sue me. And don't you DARE fucking call me clinically insane when you're either clinically retarded or scum.

[UncertainKitten]

EBWOP: To be clear, I'm not suggesting Kats disappearance is scummy per se, just extremely inconvenient.

@Reck: I actually forgot the SK. And you know what esurio could be? The SK. That makes a LOT more sense.

I'm pushing for Empking because I don't think he's town and he's slipped out of a lynch twice already. That and I fucking hate his playstyle, if he is by some stretch of the imagination town.

So, I'm basically stuck with a faint town read on LLD and dram, and only one can be town. Yanno what?

Unvote
FoS LadyLambdadelta

I'll vote her once the massclaim finishes. Speaking of massclaim, did Empking do so?

@Empking: ...well, you're wrong, but that does make me realize I've been super rough on you and should apologize myself. No matter how frustrating I find your play, that doesn't give me the right to lay into you.

[UncertainKitten]

...actually, I didn't think about that, but you're right. The SK needs to start targetting confirmeds, so...

Unvote, Vote esurio

Thank you, Reck, for helping me think that though. I wasn't doing that very well.

[UncertainKitten]

L-4 for those counting, by the way.

[UncertainKitten]

...she does? Seriously?

Anyway, claim. I assume we're massclaiming, right? Actually, Reck should direct it, technically, but given the abysmal activity we should probably go in any order.

[UncertainKitten]

OK, she has small town roles though. Not sure if that could be used to make an SK though :S.

[UncertainKitten]

All right, thanks Reck. I couldn't find MAss Effect Mafia.

[UncertainKitten]

She does. Hell, actually posting would be REALLY FUCKING AWESOME from her.

@Reck: Yes he can. I was the SK in Picking Simplicity, which he modded.

[UncertainKitten]

Unless Open games don't count?

[UncertainKitten]

Most of NS' modding history is opens. I don't think that's an invalid pool at all. NS has actually run no themed games.

@Reck: The only two serial killer roles I have were the Void Owner in Poof! Mafia, which wins when 4 players are removed from the game, and the kill is an RFG kill, and the Serial Medical Administrator who has various powers but is mostly an insane doc. Both roles are linked earlier in the game if you check my ISO, but if you insist I will relink for a third time.

And is that your SK role, Reck?

[UncertainKitten]

Well, I see no reason not to, so, here are the games I gave to Andrius for picking and choosing:

Pamplona Mafia (Open 236) -- roles in this post.
Picking Simplicity (Large Normal 121) -- roles in this post.
Island Paradise Mafia (Open 295) -- roles in this post.
Mafia Mania (Mini Normal 1091) -- roles in this post.

The Careful Reader will note that txtMafia is not included, simply because the Role PMs were not published.

Happy hunting!

Open Open Open Normal. Unless he gave txtMafia roles secretly to Andrius and is acting like he didn't.

[UncertainKitten]

EBWOP: Now with actual READING.


Open Normal Open Normal. So picking would actually be more likely.

[UncertainKitten]

Kats, can you confirm your masonry with Reck?

[UncertainKitten]

...as well as claim? (Unless Reck has a reason for you not to)

[UncertainKitten]

All right. I figured but I wasn't sure and I don't know

[UncertainKitten]

Um...where has it said whatsoever that you needed role PMs?

AGM's role was crafted purely from the Defcon 3 MECHANIC

@Reck: No it doesn't, AGM's role

[UncertainKitten]

Wasn't AGM saying that the Nuclear Launch thing wasn't a role PM though?

[UncertainKitten]

Right, I don't think that was the issue, though. I'll look for it I guess.

[UncertainKitten]

From here: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p3431796

@Reck: Um, actually, Andrius said early in the game we can't quote PMs.

[UncertainKitten]

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p3421229

[UncertainKitten]

All right.

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p3444804

[UncertainKitten]

I also note Empking hasn't claimed as Reck has directed. Are you planning to enforce your edict?

[UncertainKitten]

EBWOP: I can accept that Empking isn't SK.

[UncertainKitten]

CSL flipped VT. Are you sure you're paying attention, Reck?

[UncertainKitten]

Hrm, unless you meant flavorless VT. Which incidentally puts NS back on the table for being SK (Though I think you had him there)

[UncertainKitten]

Which game, NS? What the hell kind of claim is that?

[UncertainKitten]

An awful one .

Anyway, I'd be perfectly happy with an NS lynch I think.

[UncertainKitten]

Funny how the people who think I'm scum are the ones I've accused of being scum. You'd almost think there was a correlation. If I'm scum, vote me :3

[UncertainKitten]

Awesome. We should get me to L-1. Shit would be SO cash.

[UncertainKitten]

stop doing this defeatist routine, it's old as fuck

I still want to die . Just that seems increasingly less likely. I just think it'd be hilarious if I got wagoned again.

[UncertainKitten]

@Reck: That said I'm mostly willing to sheep you at this point unless I have like super objections to your ideas. May ask for clarification from time to time.

[UncertainKitten]

Would your mason cop react to godfather negatively or positively? I don't like Kats lurking and want to make sure there's no possibility he's scum.

[UncertainKitten]

Hrm, it is a gray area but I'm inclined to agree. Fair enough.

[UncertainKitten]

@Reck: That's a good point about dram. There are at least four explanations for the NK resolution out there right now :S.

Agh, I don't know

[UncertainKitten]

I think at some point when I have time I'm going to ISO all of the people that could be scum and stop playing the role game (outside of you and Kats who are actually mostly confirmed or doing a good scum gambit that would still backfire later).

This might take a few days because I run DnD tomorrow and leave pretty much immediately after that for a ~*~Memorial Service~*~, except the Memorial Service is on Tuesday and dad just doesn't want to get up early.

[UncertainKitten]

*Head desk*

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She's already claimed Wall Guard, esurio.

[UncertainKitten]

...serious-fucking-ly, Plum? You post elsewhere and not here?

Just DIE

Unvote, Vote Plum

[UncertainKitten]

EBWOP: I just checked and most of her posting is once a day for her game..but...uh...still, you should at least have declared V/LA or something? Give us something to work with!

[UncertainKitten]

Okay, so esurio could be a SK.

Dram, I propose you link esurio & either SK, NS, or Plum.

Wait, wait, so...esurio got roleblocked. Annnnd there was no second kill last night. Um...

could

be SK?

Also, fine with linking me to esurio, shit would be cash. Still catching up

[UncertainKitten]

Oh...right, I'm untargettable. I knew I forgot something when it seemed there was a glimmer of a chance of me escaping this game. CURSE YOU BATTLER.

All right. Um, honestly, I'm fine with any linkage of two unconfirmeds. I think esurio should be certainly linked because she's almost certainly SK.

Unvote, Vote esurio

(L-3?)

@cut by LLD: Yes, I just remembered that. FUCK this role >=[!

[UncertainKitten]

That's nice. So you could probably be SK. Or, you know, be scum. And since when were you under heavy suspicion? No, seriously, cite that shit.

[UncertainKitten]

DERP DERP DERP DERP

did you really forget the part where I was at L-2/-3 for ages D1

Were you really? Because I'm fairly sure people thought you were town. Maybe you should link this mysterious happenstance.

[UncertainKitten]

Too lazy, don't give enough shits about this game. Even if you're not scum, you're probably SK, which needs to die so we stand a better chance.

[UncertainKitten]

I am honestly ready to lynch damn near anyone just to get THROUGH this day of ~*~defeatism~*~ and fail on everyone's part with the exception of Reck and...uh...Reck. Good job not failing!

[UncertainKitten]

Dram, you're still failing in the sense you've barely posted today >=[! Try to make up for that!

[UncertainKitten]

Don't you hate it when scum is confirmed town =D

[UncertainKitten]

Referring to Nika, obv.

Hey, Nika, you can take me to L-2 if you have Nicki Minaj post =D

[UncertainKitten]

Good. After all, I was wondering why you were parking your vote on a mostly confirmed townie, and not voting Reck or Kats if you believe Kats is scum. Wouldn't do for ~*~confirmed town~*~ to have such awful opinions!

[UncertainKitten]

I know. It's a shame that you couldn't detect a townie if she slapped you in the face with a trout. But that's ok, you can keep being awful and a good reason the town loses =D. Have fun failing~

[UncertainKitten]

Oh, yes, it's also exceptionally interesting you don't want to lynch from the two linked players, which basically guarantees a scum lynch, judging by the numbers Reck gave earlier. Are you sure you're town? Because if you are you'd have to be denser than the singularity of a black hole. I'm desperately hoping that you're just scum somehow and playing us, because I'd really rather not think you're that terrible at this game.

[UncertainKitten]

Incidentally am I even being voted for a reason or did it just seem to be a good idea at the time? I must admit I'm exceptionally puzzled as to Nika's motives and how he can possibly think his current course of action is pro town in any way shape or form.

[UncertainKitten]

Oh, yes, I'm being "scummy". What's funny is the complete lack of explanation for how I'm "scummy". I think I'm ready to hear cases since letting shit fly and hoping it sticks has garnered us two town mislynches.

Can we kill NS after we kill the linked pair?

[UncertainKitten]

I am finding it more difficult to give shits about this game.

I would not be surprised if we had a Reck/Kats/Empking team at this point. But, I don't think I'm going to bother pursuing Reck and Kats, so good game if you two are scum.

I am perfectly fine lynching Empking today. You know, like we should have D1

Vote Empking

(L-4)

Also, why does there seem to be no SK kill anymore?

[UncertainKitten]

That's fine. A step closer to your wincon :3?

[UncertainKitten]

Well, it's possible the SK and your scumteam both targeted NS. So, what are you going to do after I die and flip town? Just curious is all.

...wait. Plum ran Encore mafia, right? What if she's an inquisitor?

[UncertainKitten]

EBWOP: No, wait, even if she were inquisitor we don't have any ~*~protective roles~*~ about to make it happen. Though I guess someone could be lying.

[UncertainKitten]

So what changed your mind on Empking, Reck? Or was that a ~*~way too super cool~*~ gambit/trap like thing? I pity you if it was and you are somehow town.

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I was pretty harsh on Plum too. At this point I've stopped caring. Remember, I called her out and in fact voted her for it, yesterday. But yes, maybe Plum should try posting for once, it'd be pretty neat!

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So why is it I can have posted 13 hours ago, and wake up to find no new posts?

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Does PoE stand for Piece of Excrement? Because I'll be laughing my ass off when I flip town despite your ~*~logical conclusions~*~

Oh, wait, you're scum though. Funny how that alternate explanation fixes everything.

Out of curiosity, how does PoE make me scum? Please run through the numbers again. It'll tell me if you're just really dumb town or scum =D.

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I do that a lot, Emp =D. I'm just too nice to outright call someone scum and stick to it! But, rather than taking pot shots how about you tell me who's scum after my esteemed self gets lynched? After all, it doesn't do for you to be as useless as the pokemon in your avatar =D

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Sooooo, shouldn't we be lynching her? I mean, seriously, if she's a mafia vig ...

That's kind of confirmed scum, isn't it?

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Unvote, Vote Plum

Uh, yeah. What the fuck Empking?

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OK, how about you explain WHAT THAT ACTUALLY DOES. Maybe even do something pro town for once and LINK THE ACTUAL ROLE. That sure would be a GREAT way to claim. Especially for someone who CONVENIENTLY SKIPPED YESTERDAY'S MASSCLAIM.

You're in deep shit, even if I die today, Plum.

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So basically you make people an even better version of my role. I don't believe I buy that for one second.

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@Reck: Thoughts on the fact Empking COMPLETELY FAILING TO POINT OUT THIS POSSIBILITY, Re: Plum's Mafia Vig role? Because I think it's pretty awful, but possibly just him being incredibly dumb.

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Indeed. I wouldn't pursue an Empking lynch off this until we have a Plum flip. It just seems REALLY WEIRD for town Empking not to mention that after not one, but TWO kills appear to be missing.

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I'd also like to see Nikanor and his alter ego show up to vote, maybe.

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Your formatting kinda broke. Though, yick, I'm sorry about your loss of computer...

/me hugs Kats

I hope you are swiftly returned to the internets...

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Indeed. I wouldn't pursue an Empking lynch off this until we have a Plum flip. It just seems REALLY WEIRD for town Empking not to mention that after not one, but TWO kills appear to be missing.

I did mention it...? That's how this whole discussion started?

Unvote, Vote: Plum

You mentioned it, but only after my wagon got rolling to near lynch when you basically had confirmed scum information. Further, this seems like the kind of thing you mention when we're talking about "HURF DURF WHY R KILLZ MISSAN?" I think during the massclaim would have been appropriate.

That said, as far as scum intent goes, bringing it up NOW would be pretty anti scum...so, actually, I have no idea what your game is .

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Activity in this game sucks more than a $5 whore on a busy night. WHAT THE FUCK PEOPLE.

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Mod Replace Nikanor and Nicki Minaj

They clearly aren't interested in playing.

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I'm already voting her

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HOLY FUCKING SHIT I CALLED IT! I KNEW SHE WAS A FUCKING INQUISITOR!

That said I played awful this game. Thank god I'm done with mafia.

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...well, ok, maybe not THAT awful. I caught the ENTIRE DAMN SCUM TEAM. But I wasn't persuasive ;_;

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Yeah...apathy lost this game. My reads were so damn spot on, had I actually PUSHED them and not taken compromises on Empking, who I had correctly tied to Reck...UGH! I...I just fucking give up.

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I agree with Parama! I guess what's most frustrating for me is that my "scumteam" Day 1 was half right and included the SK, but I got talked out of it. I mean, I know that's part of the game...but I had a perfect set up to make my last game the best damn town game I've ever played, and I flushed it down the toilet. I desperately wanted to believe Reck's claim so I could be lazy :S.

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It was a good gambit, honestly. And it worked well. It was a good play, and you deployed it at the right time. You were under moderate suspicion but not to the point of unbelievability. Honestly, it's stunning how well you protected your scum team.

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Nah...I'm aware I did pretty well read wise. It's just being right doesn't win games, being convincing does. And I just didn't have the will to be convincing. I'm just sick overall of the game and the stress it causes me. I'll probably be playing again someday, so it's less a retirement and more a hiatus, probably lasting a few months. Maybe I'll find what made the game fun for me in the first place again, who knows.

Anyway, between inactive town, allowing Reck to steer, and him going all out with the mason claim, it's not too surprising that scum evaded lynch. In that sense, Parama was literally the best one of you to go down. You other three were inextricably linked, more Reck/Emp then Reck/Kats or Emp/Kats though.

Incidentally,

this is a good example of why you avoid arguments with scum

. Hopefully that'll be remembered, most of all by me :V.

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I'm actually usually persuasive when I'm in a game. Whether that's good or bad depends on how insane I am at the time, but it usually pushes fine. I also am impressed by the amount of UK MAGIC this game regarding not getting lynched despite being fairly on the block and not really fighting it :S. I WANTED TO DIE ;_;. WHY DIDN'T YOU GIVE ME KAMINA, ANDRIUS? I COULD HAVE GIVEN A DAYVIG TO SOMEONE WHO WANTED TO SHOOT EMPKING, AND THEN ENDED THE DAY BY DYING =D!

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@zora: I hope you're not referring to me. While I nailed a lot of the scum team early on, I know damn well that not persuading anyone of it was my failing. I mean, given the only other townie who's really posted in postgame is esurio (though she does have the sentiment you're talking about). But, seriously, if you think that I'm saying that without taking any fault myself, you truly have no concept of how to read, which is quite an egregious offense .

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Yeah, I figured. Hence why I added the egregious comment to make it less serious sounding .

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Also, esurio, feel free to blacklist me, I'm not playing anymore anyway

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It was a good gambit, honestly. And it worked well. It was a good play, and you deployed it at the right time. You were under moderate suspicion but not to the point of unbelievability. Honestly, it's stunning how well you protected your scum team.

Being against a town that doesn't know how to scumhunt doesn't mean that you're good as scum.
Reck's fakeclaim was pretty transparent but on this site everyone is a sucker for mason claims.

I'm not sure I ever believed it. If you recall I was pretty much saying Reck/Kats were scum but whatevs they deserve to win if they are OH LOOK A TOWNIE LET ME VOTE THEM =D

Oh, that's cute calling me terrible, Nikanor. You did

jack shit

this game and you dare call me terrible? Choke on a dick, fuckface.

@Zora: I agree. The scum team played with what they had, and they did it well. Hence why I gave credit for the gambit, even if it "shouldn't have worked". That said, town did play badly, I just think scum capitalized on that well which is, and I know this is a strange concept for some of you, but

good scum play