Artemis Fowl Mafia: Hologram Over

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Vote: Number Q

for voting me.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

SK just called my OMGUS
Onto the wagon guise

Questions:
How do you react under pressure?
What will you be known for in this game?
In what ways are your town and scum play different?

My answers:
1. Try and tell the person pressuring me why they should be pressuring the person I'm pressuring.
2. Being a VI.
3. I have no idea, I only have one completed game as scum here, and that was cut short.

1. Pretty well I guess
2. I guess we'll know by the end
3. very different, haven't played much scum to fool people yet.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Wow...
Reads on page 4? This must be a new record.
As for me... no clue who's scum. In fact, what would be a realisitic number of scum in this large of a game?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

I understand that. i don't expect anyone to have reads on people. Except scum. Can the scum please tell us who is town and who their scum partners are? It will make this game VERY easy.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

I never understood why wagons form on one person and they get pretty close to being lynched ( I know CC still had about 5 votes left, but still) and it's all basd on a odd comment. Can someone tell me why that happens

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

K. thanks. @everyone else. Let's post please.

even though its very early, when you post, it gets discussion going and the game going. It's gets boring when discussion dies.

let's say, for example, no one posts. We end D1 with no lynch. N1, someone dies. D2, no lynch, N2 death, etc.. You get my point.

probably the best course of actoin right now is to wait, but I usually don't like waiting.

i think I'll do some questions as well, why not?

1. Lynch all lurker/liars?

2. skittles or M&Ms?

3. Favorite quote? Why?

4. Favorute Artemis fowl book? Why?

5. Are you scum?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

@Shi
I didn't really expect my questions to contribute anything (excepts 1 and maybe 5). Also, I forgot it was the weekend. Very true. I didn't take that into account. Thanks

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Since others are answering them, I'll answer my questions
1.) Kinda. It depends on the situation and how much they have lurked. But definitaley all liars.
2.) Everyone loves skittles ( i think)
3.) "Live as if you were going to die tommrow, learn as if you were going to live forever"- Gandhi. Because it's my graduatting class' quote on our shirts.
4.) Probably the first one because it's what got me hooked on the rest of the series
5.) Nope

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

@CP
Do you mean that you find diddin scummy? Or you think he's town?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

^I'm sure you're joking about that, but I guess it would help if it comes down to that at lylo.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

I don't know if I did this because everyone else thinks so, or what, but...

now why do you and captain planet have the same first name?

This seems like redundant discussion. Who cares if there are two players in the game with the same prefix to their name?

It just seems like misleading, irrelevant discussion to start naming possible alts. The same prefix IS NOT a good support for this.

FoS: 4nxi3ty

Even though it is very early in the day, he decides to Fos 4nx instead of voting him. That's odd...

See where I am now? I am not pushing anyone. I am not doing my part, because nobody is being pressured. I am not helping with the development of player background, or with discussion. See what I'm getting at here?

And here we have him defending himself when no one even pressured him. Again, odd...

Idle thoughts does seem like the most scummy player right now so...

UNVOTE: Number Q
VOTE: Idle Thoughts

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Hmmm....
I'm usually wary of fast wagons like that...

UNVOTE: Idle Thoughts

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

I don't know if I did this because everyone else thinks so, or what, but...

now why do you and captain planet have the same first name?

This seems like redundant discussion. Who cares if there are two players in the game with the same prefix to their name?

It just seems like misleading, irrelevant discussion to start naming possible alts. The same prefix IS NOT a good support for this.

FoS: 4nxi3ty

Even though it is very early in the day, he decides to Fos 4nx instead of voting him. That's odd...

See where I am now? I am not pushing anyone. I am not doing my part, because nobody is being pressured. I am not helping with the development of player background, or with discussion. See what I'm getting at here?

And here we have him defending himself when no one even pressured him. Again, odd...

Idle thoughts does seem like the most scummy player right now so...

UNVOTE: Number Q
VOTE: Idle Thoughts

Holy hell no
Weren't you the guy who said early reads are bad?
What did your random questions serve, if you admitted to them being useless?

Onto reality: I had an early town-read on Idle and this wagon is kinda fast, but the points are decent. Seeing as GNR is my scumread (who just hopped off of the wagon)
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Guy_named_riggs

This is my first actual large theme game. In all of my other games thats I have played, at this point in the day, I would not have reads. I assumed it was the same with large theme games. I was wrong. I had found that it

was

possible to gather reads, and a lot easier than I thought. That's why I contradicted myself.

If it was serious I would'nt be passive about it :/

Around 6 I would guess

I'm intrigued by diddin's bw-hopping. Not enough to hop on his bandwagon (heh) but enough to note it as it develops.

That is real non-comittal...

Also, there's scum on CP's bandwagon.

Thanks.

This guy seems too cautious in general

^I'm sure you're joking about that, but I guess it would help if it comes down to that at lylo.

This just screams setting up a mislynch.

Ok. Idle is scum.
He says not voting anyone at this point is scummy.
He proceeds to not vote anyone.

-___-

I honestly don't like Shii's last post. In my experience, dichotomies and such generally come from town more than from scum, but as I don't have anything else, and that's not a super strong tell, I'm not going to vote Shii.

You mean that little list thing?
Yeah, I would agree.

Even though it is very early in the day, he decides to Fos 4nx instead of voting him. That's odd...

>___>
Odd how?

And here we have him defending himself when no one even pressured him. Again, odd...

>_________>

Meh
VOTE: Guy Named Riggs

I found it odd that he only Fos 4nex instead of voting him. I figured that, early day 1, people would vote for their suspects, not so much Fos. It caught me off gaurd and I just found it odd.

And then he proceeded to defend his post when no one had even pressured him about the contents of his post because it wasn't even published yet. It struck me odd that he defended himself in the same post for his reasons of defending.

As for my pointless questions, it was just to get conversations going, and I see that it worked well.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

So... you tell others to get off the wagon, yet you won't yourself?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Well I'd say we hunted a lot of scum today, and you're on the chopping block now so~

Is 11 pages really enough to say for certain that someone is scum?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Lets see
Total of 8 games
Newbie - 4 (Dead in 3, 2 fully completed)
Non-Newbie- 4 (including this)(dead in 1, 3 ongoing) (1 mini normal, 2 large theme (this and a 14-player one), 1 mini-theme (dead))

I believe that's correct

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

No, my math is right. I have done a total of 4 newbie games. I have died in 3/4 games. 2/4 games are fully completed. 1/4 is still ongoing

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Its just my stats. Technically you can, if you weren't on the winning faction since, even if you live at lylo and stay alive, you get killed in endgame.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Fine, either way, all you had to do was look at the total. My stats make sense in my head.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

I will once my other commitments lessen up. The problem is my one game has been going on for a month and a half now, and D1 JUST ended.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

So, I'm reading the thread and I see...

Cop Guilty on Idle.

Then I see...

Read the thread

So I go back looking at SK posts in isolation. I don't know if it's just me, but if he breadcrumbed, I can't tell.

Also, he

has

been pushing for an idle lynch for a while...

Ok. Idle is scum.
He says not voting anyone at this point is scummy.
He proceeds to not vote anyone.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Idle
Am I allowed to be on both wagons if I had good reasons?

This was his second vote. And he starts it off with "Idle is scum."

I'm choosing to believe this, but if it's wrong, SK is going at the top of my scum list.

VOTE: IDLE

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Idle is the most logical lynch today though. We lynch Idle, two things could happen...

1.) Idle flips scum. We can say SK is confirmed town and play a game of follow the cop and find all the scum.

2.) idle flips town. We lynch SK D2 for lying like that.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

I don't like the idea that SK is lyncher. Mainly for the fact that I can't think of who, flavor wise, would fit the bill

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Well... That was interesting. This is the first game I had with a day kill shot. That came out of nowhere. So I guess the question is, who would kill SK?

Oh, and

UNVOTE

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

This post explains my early suspicon of Guy named Riggs.

I'm choosing to believe this, but if it's wrong, SK is going at the top of my scum list.

Okay.. so he beleives Sleepy Krew's claim but makes a statement that **just in case** SleepKrew is wrong about the result and Idle is town then SleepyKrew is scum and should be lynched.

Idle is the most logical lynch today though. We lynch Idle, two things could happen...
1.) Idle flips scum. We can say SK is confirmed town and play a game of follow the cop and find all the scum.

2.) idle flips town. We lynch SK D2 for lying like that.

^^
This is more blatant.

Guy Named Riggs knows Idle thoughts is town. He knew that cop guilty by SleepyKrew was fake and was lining up a mislynch after the town flip.

VOTE: Guy named Riggs

I do not know anything right now. I had no idea that SK was town or if Idle really is scum. I was merley posting what the possiblities after SK did his fake claim. There would be 2 ways Idle would flip; town or scum. If he was scum, we could have assumed that SK was indeed a daycop (although now we know that isn't true). If Idle turned up town, I would've pushed a SK lynch, yes, but because he had lied about his claim. Proving that claim would have been easy after Idle would have died. But now SK is dead, and I don't know anyrhing of anyone's alliance other than my own.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

@whisper
How's the catch up coming?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

@Maxous
I never really thought about it that way. If he was mafia, I would assume that he did it to bus one of his partners. Although, I am still wondering

why

SK kept going sfter Idle

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

When I think of scenarios, I usually tend to forget that one of two people could be scum to start with. With regards to that, I usually don't think of how or why they would do/act in the scenario. I know my scenarios are flawed in the sense that I don't take into account why someone would do that. I'll remember that though.

Although, I don't see why its such a big deal when making these scenarios. When I think of a scenario, I tend to think of

how it could happen

and not take into ccount of previous posts and actions.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Anx
Who are you saying is the serial killer? Staeg or diddin?
And why?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

When I think of scenarios, I usually tend to forget that one of two people could be scum to start with. With regards to that, I usually don't think of how or why they would do/act in the scenario. I know my scenarios are flawed in the sense that I don't take into account why someone would do that. I'll remember that though.

Although, I don't see why its such a big deal when making these scenarios. When I think of a scenario, I tend to think of

how it could happen

and not take into ccount of previous posts and actions.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Maxous,
I was thinking the same thing earlier.

VOTE:STAEG

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

If you were thinking the same thing earlier, why not state it? Is there any other reason for you to think I'm scum?

It was late at night, and I was half asleep at the time. Better to ppost when I'm actually awake.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Not right now I don't.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Not unless Alex is the serial killer

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

@Q
Go ahead and elaborate on it. I'd enjoy putting holes into your theroy.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Hmmm...
Trying to determine who is scum based off of these posts, not going so well. I'll support an alex lynch if it gets down to wire only because we need to lynch someone, it's just not right otherwise.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

And GNR is scum, too, for waffling around the Alex wagon despite me asking three (or four?) times.

I don't recall myself "waffling" about the alex wagon... Can you show me what you mean?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

If I understand it correctly, Staeg is voting me because I never really explained what I thought wbout Alex, and since he flipped scum, I must be scum who didn't want to out their partner on D1.

I waffled on the wagon because I really had no idea what to think about Alex. I wanted to believe that he was scum, and then vote, but something else in my head was saying he was town. Because of all of the confusion in my head, I didn't vote. I wasn't trying to bus him. If I were bussing him, I would've been on the wagon, not stay off of it.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

You see, you could've simply said "Well, I've no idea what's going on..." but you didn't. This is called fence-sitting. Why didn't you say anything of substance (except for "if it comes down to it, I suppose I'll vote him") before the lynch?

Thats just how I play. I tend to "fence-sit" if you will, for the first part of the game while I get my act together and see who's scum and who isn't.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

R.I.P Spyrex

That kill on Spyrex...

To me, that means that there must be a mafia daykill.

To me, Spryex seemed pro town the entire time. He was activley scumhunting. Seems to me like scum didn't want to take him out during the night, so they daykilled him today.

Of course, it could be that scum can either daykill OR nightkill. If they daykill, they can't nightkill and vice versa. With this size a game, it seemed odd there was only one kill last night. Could be either town vig or SK.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

It hadn't been stated in the thread.
For those people who haven't read the thread in awhile, they can recap, or, for those who have been reading but didn't think of that, I posted it. What's wrong about doing that?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

That's all you have to say after your last post roughly 6 days ago?

What did you think of the kill on Spyrex?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Did maxous tell you why I might be scum?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Maxous get here and use your telepathy to see what I'm saying.

yeah, I saw that too.

Was going to post it but got ninja'd

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Maxous get here and use your telepathy to see what I'm saying.

Ok.

Working on it. Just some questions... why does the order matter? And what do you mean by "this time?"

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Been ISOing everyone.

Got down to Nobody Special. I'm going to get some grub to eat, then come back and finish.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Anx:

Okay; I'd fill Anx with bullets a dozen times before I touched SK

(sleepykrew)

So much for day-SK

(serialkiller)

trying to look like a day-vig. And catching a daykiller is nearly the same as catching a nightkiller.
Also: I'll give you (the SK) cookies if you lazor Anx.

Oh; no way to catch a daykiller with roles aside from some kind of whacko role that has an average probability of being in the game of 0.000000304%

This is a SK trying to look like a vig, at best.

Oh, and this probably means that the SK has limited or no cop-protection.

The reason why the kill is anti-town is because SK

(skrew)

was playing at least decently. Unless the dayvig is Anxiety, I can't see how the shot came from town.

Because Anxiety is a MUCH better shot than SK, so the only person who would shoot SK instead of Anx is Anx himself.

Max, it's moreso "It's either Anx and/or scum"

looks like we found the serialkiller.

unvote,vote: diddin

So anx starts talking about serial killer specs then...

sk speculation: blah blah blah

moar pressure

unvote, vote: idle

and then seems to tell people off for it.

Anx seems scum

Captain Planet

That's my point Riggs, it's extremely early to be pulling out reads. Half of this day so far have been jokevotes and Day 1 shenanigans, you will get a vote and list of suspicions from me soon as I said before. but it is just too early to be casting fingers on people who I deem suspicious.

Besides DeathNote that guy is pretty fishy man.

So, uh..., where is your list of suspicions?

Nobody Special
his play is different from what I remember on my first game on this site. NS was the IC, so I don't know if that means he played differently as IC or is playing differently as scum now as oppossed to town then.

Number Q
His constant voting for me isn't the only reason I find him scummy. Not only does he do this, he doesn't give very good reasons for it other than what was said by others. He has also been very inactive towards this game.

Rayfrost
ray is only scummy to me because of his constant prod dogde posts

So in order of most scummy...
Number Q
Anxiety
Captain Planet
Nobody Special
Rayfrost

Everyone else is null or town

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Dammit.

I meant stupid with the daykill; not you. You're not stupid, you just have a really bad rash from sitting on that fence.

i must be allergic to the paint used to paint it. It's not very comfortable any ways

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

I didn't vote because I forgot to, and by the time I remembered, I was already in bed.

VOTE: Number Q

Also, what do you mean my wiki isn't complete?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Sorry, inb4 prodded. I will post tonight. Don't have time right now since I leave for school soon.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Okay, me response to Q

Been busy, back now, hopefully post more often, blargh.

GNR:

Spoiler:

126: Starts the post by saying he doesn't know if he's posting that opinion because everyone else did or what, ie, he doesn't know if his opinion is valid because he's trying to emulate what a townie would feel in that position and is instead relying on other people's opinions to say "hey i'm town because people agree with me"

465: Keeps stressing how he doesn't "know anything right now" and that he's only posting "the possibilities". Explains a previous post of his, okay, reasonable. Then goes back to emphasize how little he knows. Yknow, because town doesn't know who anyone is.

528: "guys this guy looks town right? right? okay good I'm going to piggyback his ideas."

618: What I get from this: GNR is, again, unsure what opinions to form because he doesn't know how town would react in that situation. Then he adds that comedy gold at the end about lynching alex if it comes down to it, that way he can say he at least thought alex was scummy enough to be lynch "if it gets down to the wire".

702 and 704: utterly, utterly useless IIoA. not by itself a scum tell, but in combination with everything else it just adds to GNR's scummery.

709: will answer this question later in the post

722:

his anx comment: points out a contradiction, okay.

his CP comment: okay.

his Nobody Special comment: um what? you basically just said NS could be scum or town, and he makes it to your scum list because of that?

his numberQ (hey that's me) comment: first of all, my constant voting for you shouldn't be scummy to you at all. If I find you scummy, I will vote you. That's actually called being townie fyi, something you wouldn't know about. Apparently I don't give very good reasons for the votes other than what other people have said. lmao. The inactivity thing is a matter of opinion but I personally don't see lurkiness as scummy, because from experience (like right now!) I know how hard it is to post stuff when you're busy.

his ray comment: I know I just said lurkaciousness isn't scummy, but I kind of agree here. lurking is one thing, making constant posts saying you'll stop lurking and instead providing jack all is another thing.

all in all this post is bad. his okay comments are very minimalistic and rehashings of what has already been said.

Will ISO other people later. Folks of interest, in no particular order: Idle, Ray, anx, diddin... this list is very subject to change, I'm tired and can barely remember everyone in the game, let alone who I want to look into deeper... and I'm not ISOing everyone. That's just silly

126:confused on why I actually read back on Idle when I had a null read on him

465: that's right. town doesn't know anyone else's role

528: I meant what I said, no sheeping involved

618: Didn't know what I thought, but I felt, as town, that we needed to lynch.

702-704: Did you actually read these in context? There was a reason for those.

709: you still didn't answer my question on the spyrex kill

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

What made you think that my reaction to SK's fakeclaim was bad?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

UNVOTE

I just realized something. Captain Planet started off the game very strong. He made losts of posts and contributed to the discussion. Now, on D2, he's barely been posting. I see scum trying to hide and let others discuss. Almost like he is fearing the daykill person, and doesn't want to hurt his scumteam's chance of winning.

VOTE: CaptainPlanet

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

@Ray

Every link I clicked on took me to a post that made me think you thought haze was scum.

so why double vote shiidaji and not haze?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

VOTE:4nxi3ty

if you really say so. The fact that Q has to be replaced won't help, and since I suspect 4nxi3ty changes my vote.

@staeg
you say i'm dumbtown in one post and about 3 posts later say I'm scum. What changed your mind?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

I have kinda serious memory problems; there was a point where I had changed my GNR read from scum to dumbtown, but somebody said something at some point that changed my mind, so, yeah :3

Do you remember what was said that made you changed your mind?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Just something I've noticed while reading.

Also hopefully the guy replacing number Q isn't so coasty. And where the hell is whisper?

Possible coaching on these two, or just stating it since both have been inactive

Zajnet, your last post was #806, and it contained "Shameless Prod-dodge"

Same thing here, directed at Zajnet

Ok 4nx my stance on GNR

GNR has looked completely indecisive throughout. All these things about not having any reads. His reaction to SK's fakeclaim was pretty terrible as well. Absolved himself from any responsibility.

Funnily enough Number Q did the exact same thing.

Also, Shii do you still think GNR is town? And where the hell is Whisper >_>
Chamber, what I meant by my question is who are you considering to lynch, and why?

Also: VOTE: GNR

Despite me doing something like a nother player, he votes me. Not wanting to vote for his scumbuddy? Probably.

Vote:Haze

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

GNR do you read posts above you? Or do you skim at like super speed? You've skipped thru Ray's wall thinking they were all about me, and you also ignore the fact I've already asked the exact same question in 863,

barely 3 posts above you

I do read the posts, however sometimes, like last night, I am reading the thread while either exhausted or in a hurrry so I sometimes miss things

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

I know this is just a whole mess of WIFOM here but,

As SK, what would I gain to killing Spyrex on D2. As a SK. I would have waited till there were fewer amounts of people left in the game, after he had taken out the scum. All I would have to do then, would be kill him, and win the game. But that's not what happened because I'm not the SK. Hence my speculation that it is a mafia daykill.

Also, I see the importance of Spyrex's views on who's town, but they are making it hard to believe that fact wih them lurking.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

I would...
except I'm not a SK of any kind

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

I don't believe in myself very well. I didn't have scum reads before I was pressured to do so because I didn't think I could, but after reading ISOs it was pretty easy.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Hmmm
Didn't realize that I haven't posted in a while.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Well, not much to go on
constant lurking, many promises with catch-up posts, then never making any...

I don't see the need to jump on the wagon for this lynch. Just a lurker lynch. I think this would probably be better for a daykill. Although, like last time, I'd be willing to vote if the deadline was coming up fast.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

What do you mean by me being a bad guy?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

I don't believe in myself very well. I didn't have scum reads before I was pressured to do so because I didn't think I could, but after reading ISOs it was pretty easy.

This doesn't add up. Almost all your earlier scumreads haven't been active. Was haze one of the people you ISO'd?

Answer please.

Yes I did, see spoiler. That post was after I had ISOd Haze

Spoiler:

Just something I've noticed while reading.

Also hopefully the guy replacing number Q isn't so coasty. And where the hell is whisper?

Possible coaching on these two, or just stating it since both have been inactive

Zajnet, your last post was #806, and it contained "Shameless Prod-dodge"

Same thing here, directed at Zajnet

Ok 4nx my stance on GNR

GNR has looked completely indecisive throughout. All these things about not having any reads. His reaction to SK's fakeclaim was pretty terrible as well. Absolved himself from any responsibility.

Funnily enough Number Q did the exact same thing.

Also, Shii do you still think GNR is town? And where the hell is Whisper >_>
Chamber, what I meant by my question is who are you considering to lynch, and why?

Also: VOTE: GNR

Despite me doing something like a nother player, he votes me. Not wanting to vote for his scumbuddy? Probably.

Vote:Haze

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Anx
I will vote who I think is scummy. It doesn't matter if I'm the only who thinks so, I'll still vote for who I find scummy

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Vote Anxeity

Where did this come from diddin?

Also, anyone notice that anx got 3 votes fairly quickly? could be scum trying to get on aa wagon quickly?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Ah
See that know. Sorry. That slipped my mind.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Even if Samuel L. Jackson is not the daykiller, 4nx needs to explain why he knew that Samuel L. Jackson wasn't.

I didn't think of that. I definitly agree with that though

VOTE:Anx

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

I've been thinking about these daykills, and something came to my mind.

Everybody's been thinking that the daykills are being submitted by a SK. However, as it has been said, the kills have been VERY anti-town. I belive that if the kills were coming from a SK, then the SK would be trying to hit scum, not get rid of the pro- town players who would be able to aid the SK in fullfilling their win condition. My theroy is that mafia have a daykill only, they can't kill during the night. The night kills are left to the SK, and we think they are coming from scum. Thoughts?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

@GNR: How does that help us go about the business of actually lynching scum?

I don't know. But it may help in the future if this is how it works.

@anx
so you build a case agaisnt staeg, then say you would prefer to lynch me? What the heck? That doeasn't make any sense at all. Do you have a case agaisnt me, or are you just trying to get rid of town?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Here, there is nothing that even remotely resembles him wanting to make me, as the SK, dead, as opposed to now (which actually gets me thinking; there's probably some reason why he said that he KNEW that I was an SK, not a vig, this early).

Are you claiming to be the SK staeg? Or am I thinking too literal?

Then help lynch scum, deathnote.

SK = Scum. Mafia = scum. All anti-town = scum.

While I agree with mafia= scum, I still don't like that idea of saying the SK is scum. It made sense with what you were saying about killing the SK sooner to get rid of the extra kill, but I still find it useful that the SK could take down scum. Once all scum are gone, we could guess a lot easier at who the SK is, if it isn't staeg.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Staeg
You can only kill at night correct?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Sorry if it seems like an odd question, but I need the answer to either confirm or deny my theroy on some of the game play mechanics

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Sorry, my sarcasm detectors haven't been updated to pick up 'text sarcasm'

And now that I look back, I see anx's post about you being sarcastic... fail on me

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Okay,
staeg is at L-1. i think we should proably wait for kuribo to do a catch up post (after stuffing himself with turkey of course) before we hammer.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Hmmm just noticed that I made a mistake with my last post.
no one is at L-1.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

I saw the vote count, saw L-2, assumed it was staeg and kept reading. Someone vote staeg, i assumed staeg to be at L-1

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

@4nx
I'm willing to hammer.
Care to claim?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

wow.... I completly forgot I was. That was not intentional

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

just a quick note
did all the americans here enjoy some nice turkey grub today?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Seriously children look at jmurph's play D3, how she jumps on 4nx right away, then switches to Captain Planet of all people when she can and never looks back on the wagon.

And kuribo I can link to you old scumgames if you want, I don't usually bus as scum.

If you can provide links, that all that does is open wifom on your meta. If you don't normally bus, doing it now would make people to believe you're town (if they trust the meta) and then you can say that you normally don't so how can you be scum?