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In post 46, Captain Corporal wrote:
Questions:
How do you react under pressure?
What will you be known for in this game?
In what ways are your town and scum play different?
1. Pretty normally. I used to jump the gun and come to the wrong conclusions lightning fast, but not anymore.
2. Trying to move the game forward.
3. I have no idea. I haven't played scum on a site that takes it seriously like Mafia scum yet.
In post 67, Maxous wrote:
'I have a daycop guilty on CC so get lynching'
Sweet bro, onwards we go.
VOTE: CC
I'm sorry, I can't detect sarcasm/jokes/trolling over the net either. I'm a pretty serious guy. Was that ^ a joke or not?~Lu-natic.
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Riggs:
1. Not lurkers, they still need reads for my lynch. But always liars.
2. Skittles
3. I don't really have any epic quote to live/play by...
4. Time Paradox. It was cool seeing more of Holly's past. But I think I liked all of them, really.
5. No.
@Diddin&othes voting Idle thoughts: Huuuuh? What's going on? Is this a gut based bandwagon? Did I miss a whole page or something?~Lu-natic.
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I swear Kdsnow you gon' get me killed for being my scumbuddy. lol
Also EBWOP is when you double post right? Editing before preview was PEdit...>_> dunno why you even need terms for this though.
In post 138, SleepyKrew wrote:Ok. Idle is scum.
He says not voting anyone at this point is scummy.
He proceeds to not vote anyone.
UNVOTE:
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Am I allowed to be on both wagons if I had good reasons?
Uuum SleepyKrew, in post number 135 Idle thoughts votes for DeathNote, yeah?
Is you so called good reason still good if it's invalid and wrong?~Lu-natic.
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In post 141, SleepyKrew wrote:He does that a long time after he unvoted you.
You didn't really make that clear in your original post when you accused Idle of being scummy.~Lu-natic.
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I'm doing neither, SK. I'm just wondering how on earth these wagons are forming so fast.
And I agree with Shii that most people wagoning are probably null, it's normal to join the most popular wagon.
But Shii, both the amateur and Diddin are arbbitrarily on both wagons, so where did you make the distinction between them? IE what makes you think Diddin is nullscum while TheAmateur is actually scum?~Lu-natic.
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Right, SK I was simply going against the fact that so many people are blatantly wagoning him. You could say that I was defending him, but not him in particular.
@Shii Yeah I noticed that he followed right after Diddin as well, but even if it does make theam more suspicous it doesn't make Diddin null.
Also L-4 already. Holy cow.
PEdit: DN: I'd like to remind you that you're the one who tried to get the Idle bandwagon going.~Lu-natic.
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In post 161, Nobody Special wrote:My vote is happy where it is for now.
On Idle, right? What it comes down to is: Do you think Idle is scum, or not?
If a massive bw formed on a person I wanted lynched because I was thorougly convinced he was scum, why worry? Even if scum are bussing themselves that's one scum down, it's definitely a positive, especially Day 1.
If not, then it makes sense to worry about scum on the wagon. But at the same time, why are you still voting him?~Lu-natic.
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So wait, DeathNote had a case against Idle? I don't remember this. I just remember something like, "Hey, CP's wagon's forming too fast, so why don't we form a rival one? Whee, wagon Idle."
But yeah right now suspicous is GNR, you noted that you were wary of wagons forming so quickly, but proceeded to get on the wagon with 4 people in front of you. And then you jumped off. Same goes for Diddin, who comes on the wagon then votes for theamatuer for a rather arbitrary reason...
(Also GooMonRyong is GMR, not GNR, pity )
PEdit: Vezok, I've missed it so who're you even pressuring?~Lu-natic.
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In post 229, Idle Thoughts wrote:@Shiidaji: I don't have an order, but GNR, diddin, DeathNote, and possibly theamateur are all good places for atownie's vote,in my humble opinion.
the bolded part struck me as odd. Was there any particular reason you had to stick the word 'townie' in there?
In post 230, Idle Thoughts wrote:In post 226, Haze wrote:So wait, DeathNote had a case against Idle? I don't remember this. I just remember something like, "Hey, CP's wagon's forming too fast, so why don't we form a rival one? Whee, wagon Idle."
(Also GooMonRyong is GMR, not GNR, pity :/
Yes, and now NumberQ is trying to get away with voting me by giving me his case, of which I have already addressed.
And I was referring to Guns N Roses, not GooMonRyong.
Do you think SK has a valid case? What about DN?
I know that, Guns N Roses is what most people think of first. But still, it's a pity, could have been such awesome initials.[/otaku]~Lu-natic.
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@Spyrex 0___o 13075 posts LOL
@DeathNote: I can't really be bothered be looking at Spyrex's meta, so is this how he always plays?
Also, time to get off my vote on DN. Starting to look a little more town.
Diddin bandwagons really inconsequentially.
UNVOTE: VOTE: Diddin
PEdit. ^ My point, Diddin. He really, bandwagons inconsequentially.~Lu-natic.
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In post 321, CaptainPlanet wrote:He's just my number one suspect right now. I'm not going to switch wagons just for the sake of it, I'll let you guys handle that while I stay snug on thereal scum at hand.
I see. I actually find that bolded part extraneous and forced.~Lu-natic.
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But I don't see how not answering the question makes you more scummy than SK's "Slam Dunk Case" on Idle, since SK refused SpyreX's request to sheep on Alex.
PEdit: But SK, by lynching the Lyncher, we keep all of the town crew intact, making it harder for mafia to reach their win-con. By removing 2 players (lyncher/lynchee) we reduce the number of players mafia need to kill to get to their win-con. Not exactly good for us.
Also How'd you get a reaction in one post? 0_o must be some legendary reading skills thar.~Lu-natic.
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In post 413, SleepyKrew wrote:So what's stopping a scum from claiming Lyncher on either someone random or his buddy?
Isn't that why I said we should just lynch the Lyncher?~Lu-natic.
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SK, I can't tell if this is trolling or what anymore. >_>
Anyways:
If scum claims Lyncher, how's that lynch wasted? If the Lynchee is used on townie, the vote is wasted as well.
But SpyreX if our entire discussion if Off-topic, whoshouldwe be focusing on? Alex hasn't posted for a while...~Lu-natic.
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@Maxous: Yeah, I know. I'm too cautious. But that's how it is. I'm sure NobodySpecial can tell you about a few retardation-herpaderpa posts I made on page 6 or somewhere. I tend to think after I post or something, I dunno. So yes, cautious is normal.
But that being said, I have no idea what's going on anymore. Diddin's brash wagon jumps irrespective of all comments makes him feel town to me, however wifomic that logic may be.
Idle doesn't feel really scum, he defends to much. I think idle should try scumhunt more
So VOTE: Alex.
Probs best lynch for today.~Lu-natic.
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Shii, I didn't say playing defensively isn't a scum read, but IMO that alone isn't really a solid read either. A townie PR could just as likely play cautiously like that as well. So yeah. I don't think Idle's def scum just yet.
4nx was that a brain fart? Did you mean the vig/SK is Staeg, seeing as how all your quotes are of Staeg andnot Diddin??
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DN: Dunno, maybe you should push for the WeirdAlex wagon more, like you pushed for Idles's? Maybe that one will form in a flash as well?
Idle stop talking about SK stuff. It's not important Everyone's going on about how defensive and re-active you are.
Tell us about who you think's scum.
You were talking about DN, right? What about the posts of DN that RF pointed out??
Cause right now I see a real reluctance to scumhunt.~Lu-natic.
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In post 628, CaptainPlanet wrote:Well it's a good thing I'm not afraid of being "killed."
I say, bring it on.
eerrr CP what is this referring to?~Lu-natic.
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Mod: In fact, Alex is at L-3 because Nobody special unvoted and switched to the Diddin wagon and the votecount is wrong
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p3540019~Lu-natic.
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In terms of real lurking Jmurph3 Whispersilk is the ultimate offender. He/She has made 3 poststotalin this entire thread.
Also, I obviously believe Vezok's claim. Its too risky for mafia to fakeclaim.
But after yesterday's flip with Alex's only serious vote of the day being on Idle, I find it hard to be a bus. I'm also wary of Alex's comment "There's scum on CP's wagon." Being scum, I wonder if he said that as a distancingg thing, and I wonder if it's true.
Meaning I think Idle's probably town but is just ... not contributing?
This contradicts Shii's original thoughts of TheAm/Idle scum, with SpyreX's town flip.
So for now I'm more interested in Diddin's blatant wagoning. Second is nobody special. Still hasn't exactly answered Chamber as to why he hammered so quick.
Anyways this game needs less lurkers and more posts.~Lu-natic.
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Ok 4nx my stance on GNR
GNR has looked completely indecisive throughout. All these things about not having any reads. His reaction to SK's fakeclaim was pretty terrible as well. Absolved himself from any responsibility.
Funnily enough Number Q did the exact same thing.
Also, Shii do you still think GNR is town? And where the hell is Whisper >_>
Chamber, what I meant by my question is who are you considering to lynch, and why?
Also: VOTE: GNR~Lu-natic.
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Ok. Ray.
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http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 6#p3519926
Was definitely scummy. It was a fucking terrible post. IMO I think I was just looking for a good reason to jump on the Idle wagon. Hah. I believe there are also posts where I make comments of a similar nature to Alex's. And Yeah. Think there was an exchange with SK who picked up a little.
This.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 0#p3520350
I don't think is validly scummy. I was actually questioning Shii's vote. Both Diddin and theamatuer were jumping wagons, with theamatuer following diddin every time. I was asking for justification for choosing to vote Diddin over theamatuer. Not quite "Oh scumleader how can I sheep you." lol
This.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 9#p3520399
Um. This was me mistaking NS for DN.
I was trying to hound DN for the same reason you quoted here :http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 1#p3519441
but 1. He ignored my question.
2. He started playing more town and I had no more case.
This.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 2#p3525812
Right. I'm still scum. For trying to find reads. Ok. Then how bout I just sit back and coast like so many people with sub 20 posts. Really. Active Lurking? Right. Get lost.
@GNR obviously Shii is Ray's top priority. If Shii flips scum then I'm screwed too. Because apparently I didn't distance enough.
And GNR about your bad reaction it was similar to this one: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 3#p3527863
You relieved all responsibility, and sheeped at convenience. Although If you asked me why I voted you over Number Q I probably wouldn't have a good reason. I think pressure? Cause assuming you're town you need to stop fence sitting.
Come to think of it. So do I.~Lu-natic.
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In post 840, chamber wrote:In post 839, RayFrost wrote:I entered it thinking alex was scum (well, knowing), but aside from that no.
At one point you picked out a post of maxous's and claimed her town for it, but she's a flipped mason, why'd you do that?
For not having any initial opinions the narrative your reread is spinning is surprisingly consistent, did you expect that to be the case?
Town aligned mason, Chamber?~Lu-natic.
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Staeg.whatdidwhosay atwhichpoint changed your mind about GNR? And why would this be a memory issue? Youforgotyou thought GNR was scum?
Also it doesn't really make what diddin did any less scummy just cause he sheeped SpyreX. Scum can sheep SpyreX all the same, perfect for bussing or if theres 2 scum teams perfect for winning.
Also hopefully the guy replacing number Q isn't so coasty. And where the hell is whisper?~Lu-natic.
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In post 884, Guy_Named_Riggs wrote:Just something I've noticed while reading.
In post 861, Haze wrote:
Also hopefully the guy replacing number Q isn't so coasty. And where the hell is whisper?
Possible coaching on these two, or just stating it since both have been inactive
Same thing here, directed at Zajnet
In post 800, Haze wrote:Ok 4nx my stance on GNR
GNR has looked completely indecisive throughout. All these things about not having any reads. His reaction to SK's fakeclaim was pretty terrible as well. Absolved himself from any responsibility.
Funnily enough Number Q did the exact same thing.
Also, Shii do you still think GNR is town? And where the hell is Whisper >_>
Chamber, what I meant by my question is who are you considering to lynch, and why?
Also: VOTE: GNR
Despite me doing something like a nother player, he votes me. Not wanting to vote for his scumbuddy? Probably.
Vote:Haze
In response to the coaching: Any wishes for more active town (which obviously helps town) is a scum read. Genius.
Response to voting GNR over Q:
Anyways. I was just pointing out that Number Q was doing the same thing. I was also pointing out that I voted you precisely because you were posting more often and still fencesitting. Number Q was outright lurking and it's not like a vote would have made him do anything.
So I voted you. If number Q was my scumbuddy I would just bus him for my convenience. By your arguments if you and Number Q were doing the exact same things then I'm just distancing/bussing you.
And as I mentioned, you're posting a lot, while fencesitting. Number Q's plain lurking. You (were) appearing to be active while not providin much content. That's a pretty big difference. Obviously after I voted you, it seems to have done something as you finally decided to post some logical reasoning. Not that it's correct, but hey! An improvement. Also feels a bit like an OMGUS.~Lu-natic.
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In post 905, DeathNote wrote:From what I have seen thus far, there is no actual case against Diddin. I hate that. Diddin is vig material for not being helpful to town but he is definitely not anti-town. The difference being that Diddin is still on towns side and will vote with town where as an anti-town player is likely scum or hurting town in some way. How is Diddin a viable lynch?
GNR fence sitting is a weak case. I would prefer someone to give a better explanation especially since there are several people, myself included, who have not been very active day 2.
It's because there are so many inactives, so many "I'll post content tomoz" people that there are no good reads, DN.
Diddin is a viable lynch because his only "town" behavior was to sheep SpyreX. Scum can sheep SpyreX. Especially if there's more than one faction of scum.
The problem I see with GNR's fencesitting is his constant posting of fencesitting. So many posts which speak of lack of confidence, etc.
I'm perfectly happy to get off GNR's wagon. His case is rather weak. So diddin it is: for fearless bandwagon + lurk.
UNVOTE: VOTE: Diddin~Lu-natic.
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No, Chamber. I don't.
I'm making the meta as I go. I don't even think there are enough games to establish a meta.
If I'm fundamentally wrong, what makes you or your logic fundamentally right? Using your fundamentally right method of thinking things through, tell me who you think this wagon should go on? If all my opinions and reads are wrong on a fundamental level, just tell me who to vote so I can sheep.~Lu-natic.
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