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Post Post #14 (isolation #0) » Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:03 am

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VOTE: DeathNote

That name is too ominous.
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Post Post #20 (isolation #1) » Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:19 pm

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lolol @DeathNote Clearly my name is Yagami Light. :P
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Post Post #30 (isolation #2) » Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:41 pm

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Even if there was no problem, why did he post in French at all?
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Post Post #78 (isolation #3) » Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:23 am

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In post 46, Captain Corporal wrote:
Questions:
How do you react under pressure?
What will you be known for in this game?
In what ways are your town and scum play different?


1. Pretty normally. I used to jump the gun and come to the wrong conclusions lightning fast, but not anymore.
2. Trying to move the game forward.
3. I have no idea. I haven't played scum on a site that takes it seriously like Mafia scum yet.

In post 67, Maxous wrote:
'I have a daycop guilty on CC so get lynching'
Sweet bro, onwards we go.
VOTE: CC


I'm sorry, I can't detect sarcasm/jokes/trolling over the net either. I'm a pretty serious guy. Was that ^ a joke or not?
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Post Post #92 (isolation #4) » Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:42 am

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Riggs: I figure around four or five...? Maybe?
And yeah I have no real suspects yet...

And why is DN trying to start a competitive bw? Shenanigans?

PEdit: Riggs: Because that's all anybody has to go offa on Day 1.
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Post Post #100 (isolation #5) » Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:08 pm

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Riggs:
1. Not lurkers, they still need reads for my lynch. But always liars.
2. Skittles
3. I don't really have any epic quote to live/play by...
4. Time Paradox. It was cool seeing more of Holly's past. But I think I liked all of them, really.
5. No.

@Diddin&othes voting Idle thoughts: Huuuuh? What's going on? Is this a gut based bandwagon? Did I miss a whole page or something?
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Post Post #116 (isolation #6) » Sun Oct 16, 2011 2:45 pm

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Oh, a bad vibes gut wagon. But I guess after rereading idle thought's posts they do seem incredibly off. Not sure where myself.
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Post Post #142 (isolation #7) » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:09 pm

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I swear Kdsnow you gon' get me killed for being my scumbuddy. lol
Also EBWOP is when you double post right? Editing before preview was PEdit...>_> dunno why you even need terms for this though.

In post 138, SleepyKrew wrote:Ok. Idle is scum.
He says not voting anyone at this point is scummy.
He proceeds to not vote anyone.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Idle
Am I allowed to be on both wagons if I had good reasons?


Uuum SleepyKrew, in post number 135 Idle thoughts votes for DeathNote, yeah?
Is you so called good reason still good if it's invalid and wrong?
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Post Post #144 (isolation #8) » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:12 pm

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In post 141, SleepyKrew wrote:He does that a long time after he unvoted you.


You didn't really make that clear in your original post when you accused Idle of being scummy.
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Post Post #151 (isolation #9) » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:34 pm

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I'm doing neither, SK. I'm just wondering how on earth these wagons are forming so fast.

And I agree with Shii that most people wagoning are probably null, it's normal to join the most popular wagon.

But Shii, both the amateur and Diddin are arbbitrarily on both wagons, so where did you make the distinction between them? IE what makes you think Diddin is nullscum while TheAmateur is actually scum?
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Post Post #157 (isolation #10) » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:09 pm

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Right, SK I was simply going against the fact that so many people are blatantly wagoning him. You could say that I was defending him, but not him in particular.

@Shii Yeah I noticed that he followed right after Diddin as well, but even if it does make theam more suspicous it doesn't make Diddin null.

Also L-4 already. Holy cow.

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Post Post #159 (isolation #11) » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:15 pm

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Why would you be worried about a bandwagon you formed? I'm sure you started a bandwagon cause you
actually thought Idle was scum
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Post Post #160 (isolation #12) » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:16 pm

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...wattafail.

Why would you be worried about a bandwagon you formed? I'm sure you started a bandwagon cause you
actually thought Idle was scum
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Post Post #162 (isolation #13) » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:22 pm

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In post 161, Nobody Special wrote:My vote is happy where it is for now.


On Idle, right? What it comes down to is: Do you think Idle is scum, or not?
If a massive bw formed on a person I wanted lynched because I was thorougly convinced he was scum, why worry? Even if scum are bussing themselves that's one scum down, it's definitely a positive, especially Day 1.

If not, then it makes sense to worry about scum on the wagon. But at the same time, why are you still voting him?
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Post Post #163 (isolation #14) » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:23 pm

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...Dear god. Remember a couple of pages back where it says I jumped the gun? I didn't even read who the hell posted that.

FAIL

Anyways, no wonder he didn't answer my question. Sorry, Nobody.
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Post Post #165 (isolation #15) » Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:36 pm

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Yes, sorry about that Nobody. I need to be less careless and retarded. I was talking to DN.
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Post Post #226 (isolation #16) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:00 pm

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So wait, DeathNote had a case against Idle? I don't remember this. I just remember something like, "Hey, CP's wagon's forming too fast, so why don't we form a rival one? Whee, wagon Idle."

But yeah right now suspicous is GNR, you noted that you were wary of wagons forming so quickly, but proceeded to get on the wagon with 4 people in front of you. And then you jumped off. Same goes for Diddin, who comes on the wagon then votes for theamatuer for a rather arbitrary reason...

(Also GooMonRyong is GMR, not GNR, pity :P)

PEdit: Vezok, I've missed it so who're you even pressuring?
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Post Post #231 (isolation #17) » Mon Oct 17, 2011 11:57 pm

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In post 229, Idle Thoughts wrote:@Shiidaji: I don't have an order, but GNR, diddin, DeathNote, and possibly theamateur are all good places for a
townie's vote,
in my humble opinion.


the bolded part struck me as odd. Was there any particular reason you had to stick the word 'townie' in there?

In post 230, Idle Thoughts wrote:
In post 226, Haze wrote:So wait, DeathNote had a case against Idle? I don't remember this. I just remember something like, "Hey, CP's wagon's forming too fast, so why don't we form a rival one? Whee, wagon Idle."

(Also GooMonRyong is GMR, not GNR, pity :/


Yes, and now NumberQ is trying to get away with voting me by giving me his case, of which I have already addressed.

And I was referring to Guns N Roses, not GooMonRyong. :P


Do you think SK has a valid case? What about DN?

I know that, Guns N Roses is what most people think of first. But still, it's a pity, could have been such awesome initials.[/otaku]
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Post Post #304 (isolation #18) » Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:50 pm

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@Spyrex 0___o 13075 posts LOL
@DeathNote: I can't really be bothered be looking at Spyrex's meta, so is this how he always plays?

Also, time to get off my vote on DN. Starting to look a little more town.

Diddin bandwagons really inconsequentially.
UNVOTE: VOTE: Diddin

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Post Post #308 (isolation #19) » Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:52 pm

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I haven't played many games so, can someone explain how sheeping is good?

And SK? Any other reasons than Idle's self-contradiction?
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Post Post #317 (isolation #20) » Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:08 pm

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Alex was jumping too...?
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Post Post #320 (isolation #21) » Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:14 pm

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So him having a gutread comes off scummiet than Diddin's whee that's a mighty fine wagon? :neutral:

PEdit: do you have some sort of case there, CP?
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Post Post #322 (isolation #22) » Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:21 pm

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In post 321, CaptainPlanet wrote:He's just my number one suspect right now. I'm not going to switch wagons just for the sake of it, I'll let you guys handle that while I stay snug on the
real scum at hand.


I see. I actually find that bolded part extraneous and forced.
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Post Post #353 (isolation #23) » Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:24 pm

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Idle with all of your agression tell us about those guys your building a case on. Or is it too early...?
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Post Post #382 (isolation #24) » Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:06 pm

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Cause Lyncher is not pro town, SK?

And GNR no point trying to outguess the mod.
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Post Post #391 (isolation #25) » Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:23 pm

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SK, why would I help lynch a VT? If you're a lyncher and you know your target is a Townie then you would actually be anti-town. It'd be better to lynch you, from a towns perspective. Only it doesn't reduce the scum count.

PEdit: Why'd you jump off the Idle wagon?
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Post Post #394 (isolation #26) » Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:30 pm

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But I don't see how not answering the question makes you more scummy than SK's "Slam Dunk Case" on Idle, since SK refused SpyreX's request to sheep on Alex.

PEdit: But SK, by lynching the Lyncher, we keep all of the town crew intact, making it harder for mafia to reach their win-con. By removing 2 players (lyncher/lynchee) we reduce the number of players mafia need to kill to get to their win-con. Not exactly good for us.

Also How'd you get a reaction in one post? 0_o must be some legendary reading skills thar.
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Post Post #396 (isolation #27) » Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:33 pm

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I wonder what Captain Planet was doing; saw him lurking in the forum but not posting.

Also SK, do you think that you fakeclaiming/joking about the Cop result is any less scummy than Kdowns not answering a question?
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Post Post #405 (isolation #28) » Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:48 pm

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Kdowns. Be coherent please? Right now I have no idea what's going on. Which question did you answer with "Hypothecially <3"?
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Post Post #418 (isolation #29) » Wed Oct 19, 2011 5:01 pm

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In post 413, SleepyKrew wrote:So what's stopping a scum from claiming Lyncher on either someone random or his buddy?


Isn't that why I said we should just lynch the Lyncher?
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Post Post #419 (isolation #30) » Wed Oct 19, 2011 5:02 pm

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@Jmurph3 A Lyncher wins when his/her target, the Lynchee is lynched.
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Post Post #422 (isolation #31) » Wed Oct 19, 2011 5:13 pm

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SK, I can't tell if this is trolling or what anymore. >_>

Anyways:
If scum claims Lyncher, how's that lynch wasted? If the Lynchee is used on townie, the vote is wasted as well.

But SpyreX if our entire discussion if Off-topic, who
should
we be focusing on? Alex hasn't posted for a while...
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Post Post #430 (isolation #32) » Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:53 pm

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Lol @Spyrex

Is that Vig, Or is it a Mafia Daykill? Do any 3rd party roles have this power?
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Post Post #434 (isolation #33) » Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:29 pm

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Um, proxy vote to?

Does that mean you voted Spy, or did you give your vote to him?
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Post Post #437 (isolation #34) » Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:47 am

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GNR everyone has been unvoted; Vote count was reset.

And RayFrost did you catch up? No reads?
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Post Post #472 (isolation #35) » Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:41 pm

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@Maxous: Yeah, I know. I'm too cautious. But that's how it is. I'm sure NobodySpecial can tell you about a few retardation-herpaderpa posts I made on page 6 or somewhere. I tend to think after I post or something, I dunno. So yes, cautious is normal.

But that being said, I have no idea what's going on anymore. Diddin's brash wagon jumps irrespective of all comments makes him feel town to me, however wifomic that logic may be.

Idle doesn't feel really scum, he defends to much. I think idle should try scumhunt more

So VOTE: Alex.

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Post Post #481 (isolation #36) » Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:47 am

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Alex, my understanding is that you're being sheeped due to Spyrex's gut read of your pathetic attempt to crawl on a well formed wagon.

Indeed Staeg, why does the shot have to come from 4nx??
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Post Post #522 (isolation #37) » Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:44 pm

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Shii, I didn't say playing defensively isn't a scum read, but IMO that alone isn't really a solid read either. A townie PR could just as likely play cautiously like that as well. So yeah. I don't think Idle's def scum just yet.

4nx was that a brain fart? Did you mean the vig/SK is Staeg, seeing as how all your quotes are of Staeg and
not Diddin
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Post Post #556 (isolation #38) » Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:12 am

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DN: Dunno, maybe you should push for the WeirdAlex wagon more, like you pushed for Idles's? Maybe that one will form in a flash as well?

Idle stop talking about SK stuff. It's not important Everyone's going on about how defensive and re-active you are.

Tell us about who you think's scum.

You were talking about DN, right? What about the posts of DN that RF pointed out??

Cause right now I see a real reluctance to scumhunt.
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Post Post #569 (isolation #39) » Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:10 pm

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Zaj, why does DN
Stand out
as town to you?

Wouldn't you say he's behaving a little more scummily with his

DN wrote:Oh no!!!!!!

NobodySpecial just did what I did... QUICK!

RF vote him!

business?

Not to mention he was also the one to start the idle wagon...
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Post Post #627 (isolation #40) » Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:31 pm

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So chamber if not alex Who, and why?
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Post Post #629 (isolation #41) » Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:57 pm

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In post 628, CaptainPlanet wrote:Well it's a good thing I'm not afraid of being "killed."

I say, bring it on.


eerrr CP what is this referring to?
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Post Post #633 (isolation #42) » Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:20 pm

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Vezok why should Alex claim? He's at L-2 and its not like anyone who's not voting/on another wagon has declared an intent to hammer. Isn't it generally better to wait till L-1 + with a person waiting to hammer before claiming?
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Post Post #634 (isolation #43) » Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:23 pm

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Mod: In fact, Alex is at L-3 because Nobody special unvoted and switched to the Diddin wagon and the votecount is wrong :P
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p3540019
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Post Post #674 (isolation #44) » Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:02 pm

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Vezok you claim mason?

And what makes you think that was a town shot?

Also what are those filler posts for, Rayfrost/Nobody Special? Anti-replace posts?
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Post Post #676 (isolation #45) » Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:37 pm

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Staeg: Reason?
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Post Post #734 (isolation #46) » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:27 am

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In terms of real lurking Jmurph3 Whispersilk is the ultimate offender. He/She has made 3 posts
total
in this entire thread.

Also, I obviously believe Vezok's claim. Its too risky for mafia to fakeclaim.

But after yesterday's flip with Alex's only serious vote of the day being on Idle, I find it hard to be a bus. I'm also wary of Alex's comment "There's scum on CP's wagon." Being scum, I wonder if he said that as a distancingg thing, and I wonder if it's true.

Meaning I think Idle's probably town but is just ... not contributing?

This contradicts Shii's original thoughts of TheAm/Idle scum, with SpyreX's town flip.

So for now I'm more interested in Diddin's blatant wagoning. Second is nobody special. Still hasn't exactly answered Chamber as to why he hammered so quick.

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Post Post #747 (isolation #47) » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:31 pm

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So uuh Staeg why'd you vote CP?

You've voted 3 different people one this page alone.

Is there some reason for your wishy washy behaviour?
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Post Post #753 (isolation #48) » Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:26 pm

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lol my bad I've been mixing the two of you up just then.

But yeah wonder why Zaj voted CP =S
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Post Post #756 (isolation #49) » Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:19 pm

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Chamber do you still have a strong scum read on Idle?
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Post Post #794 (isolation #50) » Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:19 am

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Chamber so what are your reads.

Coming up with iso of GNR.
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Post Post #800 (isolation #51) » Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:46 pm

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Ok 4nx my stance on GNR

GNR has looked completely indecisive throughout. All these things about not having any reads. His reaction to SK's fakeclaim was pretty terrible as well. Absolved himself from any responsibility.

Funnily enough Number Q did the exact same thing.

Also, Shii do you still think GNR is town? And where the hell is Whisper >_>
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Post Post #827 (isolation #52) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:34 pm

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Ok. Ray.

This.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 6#p3519926

Was definitely scummy. It was a fucking terrible post. IMO I think I was just looking for a good reason to jump on the Idle wagon. Hah. I believe there are also posts where I make comments of a similar nature to Alex's. And Yeah. Think there was an exchange with SK who picked up a little.

This.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 0#p3520350

I don't think is validly scummy. I was actually questioning Shii's vote. Both Diddin and theamatuer were jumping wagons, with theamatuer following diddin every time. I was asking for justification for choosing to vote Diddin over theamatuer. Not quite "Oh scumleader how can I sheep you." lol

This.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 9#p3520399

Um. This was me mistaking NS for DN.
I was trying to hound DN for the same reason you quoted here :http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 1#p3519441
but 1. He ignored my question.
2. He started playing more town and I had no more case.

This.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 2#p3525812

Right. I'm still scum. For trying to find reads. Ok. Then how bout I just sit back and coast like so many people with sub 20 posts. Really. Active Lurking? Right. Get lost.

@GNR obviously Shii is Ray's top priority. If Shii flips scum then I'm screwed too. Because apparently I didn't distance enough.

And GNR about your bad reaction it was similar to this one: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 3#p3527863

You relieved all responsibility, and sheeped at convenience. Although If you asked me why I voted you over Number Q I probably wouldn't have a good reason. I think pressure? Cause assuming you're town you need to stop fence sitting.

Come to think of it. So do I.
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Post Post #842 (isolation #53) » Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:45 pm

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In post 840, chamber wrote:
In post 839, RayFrost wrote:I entered it thinking alex was scum (well, knowing), but aside from that no.


At one point you picked out a post of maxous's and claimed her town for it, but she's a flipped mason, why'd you do that?

For not having any initial opinions the narrative your reread is spinning is surprisingly consistent, did you expect that to be the case?


Town aligned mason, Chamber?
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Post Post #861 (isolation #54) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:31 pm

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Staeg.
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Also it doesn't really make what diddin did any less scummy just cause he sheeped SpyreX. Scum can sheep SpyreX all the same, perfect for bussing or if theres 2 scum teams perfect for winning.

Also hopefully the guy replacing number Q isn't so coasty. And where the hell is whisper?
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Post Post #863 (isolation #55) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:51 pm

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Zajnet, your last post was #806, and it contained "Shameless Prod-dodge"

Do you have anything more to say other than simply quoting others? (This holds true for 806 as well, you just quoted NS.)
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Post Post #867 (isolation #56) » Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:33 pm

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GNR do you read posts above you? Or do you skim at like super speed? You've skipped thru Ray's wall thinking they were all about me, and you also ignore the fact I've already asked the exact same question in 863,
barely 3 posts above you
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Post Post #876 (isolation #57) » Sat Nov 05, 2011 1:17 am

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Is there any reason you want to avoid seeming like you're sheeping?

Diddin is the biggest wagon, you know.
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Post Post #898 (isolation #58) » Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:34 pm

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In post 884, Guy_Named_Riggs wrote:Just something I've noticed while reading.

In post 861, Haze wrote:
Also hopefully the guy replacing number Q isn't so coasty. And where the hell is whisper?


Possible coaching on these two, or just stating it since both have been inactive

In post 863, Haze wrote:Zajnet, your last post was #806, and it contained "Shameless Prod-dodge"
Same thing here, directed at Zajnet

In post 800, Haze wrote:Ok 4nx my stance on GNR

GNR has looked completely indecisive throughout. All these things about not having any reads. His reaction to SK's fakeclaim was pretty terrible as well. Absolved himself from any responsibility.

Funnily enough Number Q did the exact same thing.


Also, Shii do you still think GNR is town? And where the hell is Whisper >_>
Chamber, what I meant by my question is who are you considering to lynch, and why?

Also: VOTE: GNR


Despite me doing something like a nother player, he votes me. Not wanting to vote for his scumbuddy? Probably.

Vote:Haze


In response to the coaching: Any wishes for more active town (which obviously helps town) is a scum read. Genius.

Response to voting GNR over Q:

Anyways. I was just pointing out that Number Q was doing the same thing. I was also pointing out that I voted you precisely because you were posting more often and still fencesitting. Number Q was outright lurking and it's not like a vote would have made him do anything.

So I voted you. If number Q was my scumbuddy I would just bus him for my convenience. By your arguments if you and Number Q were doing the exact same things then I'm just distancing/bussing you.

And as I mentioned, you're posting a lot, while fencesitting. Number Q's plain lurking. You (were) appearing to be active while not providin much content. That's a pretty big difference. Obviously after I voted you, it seems to have done something as you finally decided to post some logical reasoning. Not that it's correct, but hey! An improvement. Also feels a bit like an OMGUS.
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Post Post #910 (isolation #59) » Sun Nov 06, 2011 5:33 pm

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In post 905, DeathNote wrote:From what I have seen thus far, there is no actual case against Diddin. I hate that. Diddin is vig material for not being helpful to town but he is definitely not anti-town. The difference being that Diddin is still on towns side and will vote with town where as an anti-town player is likely scum or hurting town in some way. How is Diddin a viable lynch?

GNR fence sitting is a weak case. I would prefer someone to give a better explanation especially since there are several people, myself included, who have not been very active day 2.


It's because there are so many inactives, so many "I'll post content tomoz" people that there are no good reads, DN.

Diddin is a viable lynch because his only "town" behavior was to sheep SpyreX. Scum can sheep SpyreX. Especially if there's more than one faction of scum.

The problem I see with GNR's fencesitting is his constant posting of fencesitting. So many posts which speak of lack of confidence, etc. :?

I'm perfectly happy to get off GNR's wagon. His case is rather weak. So diddin it is: for fearless bandwagon + lurk.

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Post Post #913 (isolation #60) » Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:04 pm

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No, Chamber. I don't.

I'm making the meta as I go. I don't even think there are enough games to establish a meta.

If I'm fundamentally wrong, what makes you or your logic fundamentally right? Using your fundamentally right method of thinking things through, tell me who you think this wagon should go on? If all my opinions and reads are wrong on a fundamental level, just tell me who to vote so I can sheep.
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Post Post #916 (isolation #61) » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:54 am

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@Chamber.

Ok, you can put it that way.

But you're also accusing me of simply reasoning with flawed, WIFOMic logic. What differentiates this from Newbtown and Scum reads? This is my third game, and I was NK'd day 1 in my 1st game.

Moreover, I highly doubt I'm the only one sucsceptible to using WIFOMic logic, town or not. Rather you're pinning this down on me as scum behavior. I think that your case on me is even weaker than my case on Diddin.

If I look at it from the opposite angle, Diddin has: Jumped wagons; Constantly Lurked, Sheeped at convenience; Refused to defend himself, and lack of content in posting.
That's scummy behavior.

And your reason to lynch me, by comparison? It might be because I'm judging myself, but I think the scummyness you find on me should be far less.

Also I'm somewhat worried about wheter or not you can get the counter wagon going. A no lynch would not be good.
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Post Post #926 (isolation #62) » Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:19 am

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In post 921, chamber wrote:
In post 916, Haze wrote:Also I'm somewhat worried about wheter or not you can get the counter wagon going. A no lynch would not be good.


A no lynch isn't the alternative to a new wagon failing, stop fear mongering.

Vote Zaj

Not my first choice from the list but beggers can't be choosers.


Ok, sure.

Who is on top of that list? Me? Why?
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Post Post #937 (isolation #63) » Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:04 am

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Chamber, do my concerns still qualify as fear mongering at this point?
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Post Post #959 (isolation #64) » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:37 am

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@Snow White: You're essentially voting for SpyreX. (TheAm was replaced) Who is dead and was town.

In post 949, chamber wrote:
In post 937, Haze wrote:Chamber, do my concerns still qualify as fear mongering at this point?


Yes.


...

Chamber, it's annoying if you're hypocritical. You told me previously to look at Diddin as if he were town, and look for scummy behavior.

You're doing the opposite. You're looking at me as scum, and just passing off what I say as fearmongering. I think with current indecision it's a valid argument.
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Post Post #961 (isolation #65) » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:57 pm

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Ok.
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Post Post #1009 (isolation #66) » Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:55 pm

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In post 974, Snow White wrote:

@Haze. I didnt bother reading who'd been killed off and who was town/scum because i wanted to let my reads read clearly and uninterrupted. Not that it made much difference. I am still no where as regards any scum ideas. But a few ideas on who may be town. And essentially, ive voted on someone dead so can Spyrex be brought back to be rekilled? Doubtful. Why bother pointing a meaningless vote out?


Sorry, I must have been mistaken. I was trying to help. I thought that a town player would love to have their vote somehwere meaningful and not on somebody dead.

Once again, I must apaologise for trying to help.
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Post Post #1039 (isolation #67) » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:25 pm

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Ray, I'm already on the diddin wagon.

I'll move to Zaj if it'll prevent a no lynch.

We have a day and 5 hours to move over to the Diddin wagon, kthnx.
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Post Post #1053 (isolation #68) » Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:42 am

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Well we've given up on the Diddin wagon, haven't we?

We're waiting to see which comes first: Zaj claim or Hammer.
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Post Post #1074 (isolation #69) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:03 am

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DN are you excusing what NS has done?
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Post Post #1077 (isolation #70) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:54 am

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In post 1075, Nobody Special wrote:If I get lynched today, you're all idiots.


lol Insult + AtE much.


It's a gambit. Sometimes, when you fakehammer, the hammeree spills his guts unknowingly and you get free information.

It didn't work -- probably a bit TOO close to deadline.


NS, it should have been obvious that it wouldn't work. Zaj was lurking like crazy, would've never come back in time to defend himself. Also, even if he defended himself the wagon wouldn't have changed. So if Zaj was scum then his best course of action is to just accept the hammer. Finally, even if he was scum and spilled his guts, what would you have done? What
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Post Post #1079 (isolation #71) » Tue Nov 15, 2011 1:00 pm

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@Chamber&Diddin: is that purely from #1070?

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Post Post #1095 (isolation #72) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:15 pm

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Chamber, I thought our leading wagon yesterday was Diddin that we compromised?
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Post Post #1097 (isolation #73) » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:09 pm

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I'll risk being called an idiot who doesn't pay attention, but no matter.

What I mean to say is, I don't remember there being a 4nx wagon at all during day 2.

I just remembered the Diddin wagon which then faded to the Zaj wagon which came from your list of "people I would like to lynch." Funnily enough, 4nx was also
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Post Post #1125 (isolation #74) » Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:16 pm

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In post 1121, Samuel L Jackson wrote:No shit I'm not the day-killer.

Diddin's reaction is what I was looking for. LOL'd.


What did you get out of the reaction?

Why haven't you voted based off that reaction?
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Post Post #1126 (isolation #75) » Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:19 pm

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In post 1124, Guy_Named_Riggs wrote:
In post 1122, jmurph3 wrote:Even if Samuel L. Jackson is not the daykiller, 4nx needs to explain why he knew that Samuel L. Jackson wasn't.

I didn't think of that. I definitly agree with that though
VOTE:Anx


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Post Post #1163 (isolation #76) » Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:13 am

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God Dammit.

Maan what happened to never being prodded >__>

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Post Post #1172 (isolation #77) » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:55 am

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Ray, what's missing? Like I know I haven't posted much this day... (anyways /you/ watched/read Beck? :D)
Do you find me too defensive?

I don't mind you calling me scum, I just don't wanna be called scum on D3 for vague things like Gut.

NS I highly doubt it. Tunnelling is called that because you're not looking at any other part of the game. Why don't you take a step back, you're missing the forest for the trees. Idle's most likely town.
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Post Post #1210 (isolation #78) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:11 am

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Actually I'm just amazed the SK has hit no maf whatsoever so far...

Or is it actually just 2 factions of Maf, 1 with day and 1 with night kill?
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Post Post #1228 (isolation #79) » Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:15 pm

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GNR:

All shots have only hit town so far. Even IF the SK tries to shoot scum even probability wise it's pretty hard. (ie random shooting). AND we don't know how many scum factions there are here.

Ray's point is to reduce the number of NK's. Because this way we have more days till Lylo and thus more discussion and a better chance for a town win. So no, we just have to get rid of all anti town factions. Stop dreaming about the SK hitting Scum.
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Post Post #1230 (isolation #80) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:24 am

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In post 1229, RayFrost wrote:Anxiety needs to die.

Staeg is looking town and the mafia should kill him if they ever want him gone because he's getting townier as the game goes on and I doubt that will stop.


Ray is there any reason you're TELLING the maf to shoot a specific player? One that you have a town read on, no less?
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Post Post #1248 (isolation #81) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:54 am

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Wow I don't even know how we got to deadline so fast.

VOTE: Staeg
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Post Post #1264 (isolation #82) » Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:35 pm

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@Shii: because 4nx's got a lot better in the last day. Better than staeg's at any rate.
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Post Post #1274 (isolation #83) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:53 am

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Staeg is at 5 (L-3)

4nx is at 6 (L-2)

How did you make a mistake like that GNR?
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Post Post #1276 (isolation #84) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:59 am

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We have less than a day. Jesus.

I don't even want to Lynch 4nx.

VOTE: 4nx

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Post Post #1278 (isolation #85) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:22 pm

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GNR YOUR FUCKING ON 4nx

ARE YOU TRYING TO PULL THE SAME SHIT AS NS?!!
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Post Post #1287 (isolation #86) » Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:02 pm

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I was against this as well. Just didn't want a no lynch.
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Post Post #1300 (isolation #87) » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:25 am

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I am indeed a clown.

Whattafail.
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Post Post #1305 (isolation #88) » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:38 am

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In post 1303, kuribo wrote:also, who the fuck is this Staeg guy with all the fake rage


You reckon Staeg is scum too and 4nx and Staeg are just bussing? Or could he actually be SK?
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Post Post #1330 (isolation #89) » Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:00 pm

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Lol Diddin

I may not have read mafia theory much but I do remember that thing about 7 for 7 ....
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Post Post #1333 (isolation #90) » Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:40 pm

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In post 1066, Nexus wrote:
Votecount 2.12:

Zajnet (10): jmurph3, Staeg, chamber, vezokpiraka, diddin, DeathNote, Shiidaji, 4nxi3ty, Nobody Special, RayFrost
diddin (3): CaptainPlanet, Haze, Channeldelibird
Haze (1): Guy_Named_Riggs
CaptainPlanet (1): Zajnet

Not voting (3): Idle Thoughts, Samuel L. Jackson, Snow White

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch.

Zajnet has been lynched. Mod Scene incoming.


Are you shitting me, Diddin?

Your voting record says you were on a mislynch. Also even if you did manage to avoid the mislynch it doesn't make you town or right.
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Post Post #1335 (isolation #91) » Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:46 pm

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So you were bussing?
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Post Post #1353 (isolation #92) » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:25 pm

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In post 1352, vezokpiraka wrote:
In post 1350, Guy_Named_Riggs wrote:
In post 1344, diddin wrote:Seriously children look at jmurph's play D3, how she jumps on 4nx right away, then switches to Captain Planet of all people when she can and never looks back on the wagon.

And kuribo I can link to you old scumgames if you want, I don't usually bus as scum.


If you can provide links, that all that does is open wifom on your meta. If you don't normally bus, doing it now would make people to believe you're town (if they trust the meta) and then you can say that you normally don't so how can you be scum?

Why isn't this guy dead yet?

unvote
vote GNR


I followed neither GNR nor Your logic.
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Post Post #1360 (isolation #93) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:48 am

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This^

DN was the Day-SK that shot all the protown players and screwed himself over.
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