Imperial Intrigue (Endgame, OUT OF NOWHERE)

[MacDougall]

Whispersilk was the roleblocker and died on night 4. So there would have been three other people that were roleblocked. I hope that one of them is town and still alive so they can confirm it.

[MacDougall]

And you completely ignored my question.

[MacDougall]

Or the other scum team also has a role cop?

No I was more asking whether you received a similar PM to mine.

[MacDougall]

I read my role PM again and it seems more likely that I was jailed than roleblocked. But if nobody else received this night 2 PM then I definitely was informed that I was targeted by some PR.

I have played one game on this site and about 10 on other sites but the game style on the other sites is glaringly different to here hence the teething problems. Rateyourmusic.com OT board if you want to go have a look.

I would be almost sure that manho is town if Andrius flips town tbh. He claimed a legion role and that would make every role similar to his claim town.

As for my lynch. Vezok tomorrow, either way.

[MacDougall]

Sorry... by role PM I meant night PM.

And God damn it Andrius I know it doesn't mean it! But it does suggest it. Especially in light of the fact that our two revealed roles are not "Imperial" sounding roles at all. Of course the Deathbringers could be loyal to Bremburg. Has their been anything to suggest anything like that? Perhaps the location of the 3rd Legion and the lands owned by Bremburg? I haven't been following flavour. I doubt Wraith would include vital information like that, though he has mentioned my lands in flavour.

[MacDougall]

Lol don't go to sleep man. If you really are town, the more we get out of you now the better.

[MacDougall]

The butthurt coming out of Andrius is alarming.

[MacDougall]

I have also changed my position on Magua. Methinks he is scum.

I changed my stance because expletives aside, his point was valid, and after all I did think Andrius was scum...

VOTE: Magua

[MacDougall]

Second part is a response to your question MattP in case it was confusing.

[MacDougall]

I don't necessarily have a town read on MattP Nero. but the way Magua went about his actions yesterday, heavily influencing the lynch in subtle ways, his choice of scum reads + his actions today + the fact that almost every remaining player except me has a veritable scum read on him ... altered my read on him. It's not much more than a gut call, but my gut read on him is pretty strong.

[MacDougall]

It's already established that we get told we were roleblocked. It happened to me on night 2 and if you read carefully through the OP's it says it.

[MacDougall]

Why isn't Kdowns dead? Why would the scum kill all these other players and not the only real "confirmed" townie we have?

[MacDougall]

Yeah they're fine lynches.

And "to make him appear scummy" would have been a very patient and risky endeavour imo. Up until right now he has been completely devoid of suspicion whatsoever, so surely by now someone would have taken a shot at him. That, and as a "confirmed town" shouldn't he take the lead in our scum hunting? He has done jack of it and has coasted.

[MacDougall]

Why isn't Kdowns dead? Why would the scum kill all these other players and not the only real "confirmed" townie we have?

How about because he's fucking terrible?

No offense, kdowns.

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I'd guess you and EC are mafia together. This is due to distancing from yesterday between you two. You and manho don't fit as mafia together. Therefore, I'd put you and EC with Empking/Peregrine.

D1 end-of-day votecount from #731:

Empking(12):

EtherealCookie

, SleepyKrew,

Magua

, Otolia, manho, MattP, StrangerCoug, SodaSpirit17, Nero Cain , kdowns, Shinki, Nero Cain, MacDougall

Just want to make sure you're serious on this.

What I want to know is, why is everyone ignoring Bogre?

Because Bogre would be an easy lynch and that's especially poor for you to put forth when you are under pressure. Bogre may well be scum, but it's scummy to want him lynched at this stage imo. The fact that there are two scum teams and only one lynch per day makes it even more likely that scum would bus him, scum from the other team.

[MacDougall]

No Offense is really Taken, Magua. I understand I am a horrible player.

NC, My constant point out that he claimed VT is because people were still freaking out about him saying he was Roleblocked.

Kdowns, I want some reads from you please. You can't keep coasting here.

[MacDougall]

MattP that is absurd. Sure there is a very remote chance that they bussed Empking but Empking proved to be an important scum role and they had no need to hunt him the way they did. It's not like before they chimed in he was already as good as dead. I don't believe either of them are on the Empking team.

It's far more likely that he was trying to bus manho, but the logic you display in saying "you don't go with manho (because you tried to get him lynched) but you go with empking (who you bussed entirely from the beginning and which makes far less sense) is not good.

I'm considering unvoting Magua because of this. I'd like for Magua to explain to me how he is conclusively not on the same team as manho.

[MacDougall]

Why is Agar so low on your list Nero? What makes vociferously targeting a player that you think is town such a town read?

[MacDougall]

Didn't your case ultimately boil down to them being partners with at least one of the deceased scum?

And... post #335 in Magua's ISO. Read it. Then read the next few. You are wrong.

[MacDougall]

First, a correction on one of my last posts. Vezok DID somewhat respond to the allegations from me and EC.

Why is Agar so low on your list Nero?

What makes vociferously targeting a player that you think is town such a town read?

b/c I don't suspect Agar. Is there a reason that I should? Don't get the bolded question.

Borge was (and still is) listed as a possible lurker scum. I don't remember anything "scummy" from him. I'm going to reread him and everyone else.

vote:EC

The reason I ask is because that is the only thing Agar has really done. So you are basing your town read on him on that, because that's all he has done.

[MacDougall]

UNVOTE: Magua
VOTE: kdowns

[MacDougall]

Do you recall that he was killed before we realised there were two scum teams?

[MacDougall]

Are you serious? You need to go back and read the part where he revealed it again.

People were trying to work out whether SleepyKrew was the scum kill OR something else. Because there were two kills. Nobody back then considered that they were two separate scum kills. Kdowns claims that SK was his vig kill, and rides the easy train to confirmed townville.

[MacDougall]

I think that kdowns killed SleepyKrew but is scum. I think that gandalf or JDGA died for another reason. Maybe they targeted a PGO or there is a SK? I dunno, I just don't trust kdowns at all anymore. A confirmed townie doesn't play like him. Why are you so defensive of him?

[MacDougall]

Kdowns if you're town start making reads.

[MacDougall]

Nice reads kdowns.

[MacDougall]

8 hours is impatient?

Nice contribution though. Where are these reads?

[MacDougall]

Well I think EtherealCookie is more likely to have bussed Empking than Magua, but it's still unlikely. I'd be far happier with the Vezok lynch.

[MacDougall]

I sure have.

vote Vezok

[MacDougall]

vote EC

[MacDougall]

I believe Magua because he got at least one thing right that I know for sure and there is already a dead scum cop.

vote Bogre