TV Upick - Scum win

[RedPanda]

hello guys. going to catchup now. Bowties are so cool.

[RedPanda]

after rereading ive got mostly null reads one everyone. town read on izak. town read on cobbler.i actually dont understand The reasons why people are calling him a VI. he seems pretty decent. his vote on piggy seems spot on. ive got a scum read on Plenty and piggy.
Il vote after the next vote count. the jakalope wagon seems to be the easy thing to do for so many of you and after a quick ISO, i find nothing. il vote after the next votecount.

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UNVOTE VOTE PLENTY

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Actually no

UNVOTE VOTE PIGGY

Still no vote piggY? I really think you should change your targets meran. VIg Plenty or piggy tonight based on who we lynch. Both of them are so obv scum.

[RedPanda]

why? cant you see it?

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@peregrinev i read all their ISO's. their posts seem like obv scumposts. why do you want me to make a case? do you want me to make a case so that you can defend them? or do you have better scum suspects? If you want to really know if their scum why dont you just read their ISO's by yourself and agree or disagree.
Your post seems like a common scum post Per.your post seems like an attempt to stir up some drama while not being the focus.

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i apologise per i believed you were referring to me.

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I still cant believe why nobody wants to vote for piggy. Shes Done Zero scumhunting. Not placed a vote anywhere. Doesnt seem to want to give reads.

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will post tomorrow. a little busy right now.

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SO plenty you think im scum and Piggys scum and you think i bussed her. So why aren't you voting for piggy then since there are already votes on her.

ive already said why i think piggy's scum. and its funny to see you use a quote of me where im so obviously trying to fish for a reaction from per. The reason why i think your scum is because of your rolefishing and weak votes and using any excuse to set someoneup for a mislynch. I Dont have to always post a wall. Just reading your ISO is easy enough to find your obv scum.

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I just said why i suspected you didn't i? and you call 284 reads? And what in the hell even looks or makes you think your case is strong?

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264*

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Im willing to vote for plenty and piggy.maybe lurconis after i review him but nobody else.

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I dont Like the wagon at all. It has People i think are scum crawling all over it.

ive got a new guy added to my scum list - RedFF.

This makes it Piggy,Plenty and RedFF.

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Have you got someone better? I didn't Post the list to get anybody to change their votes. Its just sort of a reference to my reads in case anything happens.

[RedPanda]

I never got the Day2 start PM. Anyway i just got back home. il post tomorrow.

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Hey plenty what do you think about piggygal?

And piggygal what do you think about plenty?

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Plenty Who all do you have suspicions on right now? and can you rate them in order of scummyness

And piggy can you do the same if its not too much trouble ?

i dont want a case or anything. just rating them will do.

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Im actually waiting to see the "effort" piggy puts into the game.

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Plenty. you got scum reads on only two people? If yes. then rate me and piggy using a percentage of how sure you are that we are scum.

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the vote is plenty.

Vote Plenty

Plenty answer my last question

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And piggy what are you? Your definitely not town.

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Because i'm not sure what piggy is. But im def sure your scum. i just want you rate your scum read on me. do it fast. stop changing targets. I will take care of RedFF When i want to.

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Nono just Rate your scum read on me. I don't have to explain anything to you. you can get a lynch started on me If you want. Just tell me How sure you are that i am scum.

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Furcolow - He went from David is "obvious fakeclaiming scum" in 671, to not caring who we lynch out of David and Meran in 739. It seems like he just wants to get rid of town-aligned night kills. Congratulations, Furcolow, you've replacedRedPanda as my top suspect.

VOTE: Furcolow

This is enough to lynch this guy. Hes obv scum. he rolefished merans claim. tried to make sure Meran wasn't going to change his target.

[RedPanda]

Give your scum read on me fast. so i can make my next move.

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The rating i mean.

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FurcolowWrote

I can't believe the ridiculous flashwagon on me

the wagons ridiculous only because plenty's on it.

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This guy Is you. You need to get lynched.
Il give you one scum read and rate it.

Plenty = scum 100%.

Your turn.

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just shut up and stop stalling. I don't need your explanation Of who you think is scum. Just Give your damn read on me and rate it.

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Your a little chicken aren't you? Why so scared To rate me?

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Its because You know im Town and you know Your scum right? And you can't say "RedPanda Is 100% scum" right?

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Why Think and hide that at all if your actually town and you believed im scum?

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I have your damn read. just say it "Red Panda" is 100% scum. why are you so chicken to say that? You were voting me today to lynch me right? or is that wrong?

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I've put my cards on the table. Why are you so Afraid to put yours on? Majorly scummy. Do it fast.

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I have 1 read.

Plenty = 100% scum.
Im so confident i don't have to explain but you can read post 749 and all my other posts on you if you want.
noother reads on anybody else.

So just fucking stop being a coward and Say it "RedPanda is scum 100%"

[RedPanda]

Are you so Afraid for a 1 vs 1 with me today?

[RedPanda]

Why are you being such a coward please explain?

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They mysteriously vanished as reads. My brain Seems to have forgotten all about them.

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Plenty jumped on your wagon. thats enough for me for today.

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I'm sorry. i can't agree to that.

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Did you run away plenty? wow.

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You did. You kept asking questions why he wont change his target etc.

But i dont care about that.

I doubt we're going to get eight votes on RedPanda in the the next 51 hours,so I'll UNVOTE:

I still think RedPanda's scum.

VOTE: RedPanda

remember this plenty? why Are you still Being a coward after all of that.

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He said he won't . The subject was dropped because killer= town.

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And your just annoying me right now. what is the point Of all of this. Don't tell me you think im town now? Is that why Your defending yourself?

The last three pages have made me so sure your scum. Im so confident that nothing you say can change my mind. Well there is actually one thing but Your scum So you wont think of that.

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Yawn. Fine You Didn't keep asking Questions why he wont change his target etc.

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I doubt we're going to get eight votes on RedPanda in the the next 51 hours,so I'll UNVOTE:

I still think RedPanda's scum.

VOTE: RedPanda

Now as for this discussion. i dont understand why Your Actually defending yourself from me. im Asking you to call me scum with 100% certainty so we can move on to a 1 vs 1 between me and you.

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town tell lies. What you did was Ask him To reveal What role he has.
My case Wasn't strong against you when i first posted my scum read against you. it was more of a gut feeling. But then you go and Speed wagon Jakalope . Day2. You think Im scum still after hours before the deadline saying you wished you could get more votes on me if you could but since you couldn't your voting for jakalope. The case on jakalope was the worst case ever. i said as much But That case was so amazing to you wasn't it? now you jumped on Furcolows wagon Lol. And there's been three pages of you Being a fucking coward. Its all Confirmed to me. You are Scum.

Three Pages Of me taunting you So badly And you had a really high scum read on me and you wanted to lynch me. But You Didnt Want To battle with me.

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and that I'm not 100% about you being mafia?

this wont work now plenty After i handed you the answer. You should have said this First.

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Furcolow - He went from David is "obvious fakeclaiming scum" in 671, to not caring who we lynch out of David and Meran in 739. It seems like he just wants to get rid of town-aligned night kills. Congratulations, Furcolow, you've replacedRedPanda as my top suspect.

VOTE: Furcolow

This is enough to lynch this guy. Hes obv scum. he rolefished merans claim. tried to make sure Meran wasn't going to change his target.

town tell lies. What you did was Ask him To reveal What role he has.
My case Wasn't strong against you when i first posted my scum read against you. it was more of a gut feeling. But then you go and Speed wagon Jakalope . Day2. You think Im scum still after hours before the deadline saying you wished you could get more votes on me if you could but since you couldn't your voting for jakalope. The case on jakalope was the worst case ever. i said as much But That case was so amazing to you wasn't it? now you jumped on Furcolows wagon Lol. And there's been three pages of you Being a fucking coward. Its all Confirmed to me. You are Scum.

Three Pages Of me taunting you So badly And you had a really high scum read on me and you wanted to lynch me. But You Didnt Want To battle with me.

So in under an hour and a half you have more or less completely rewritten your case against me. Is this the real one, or just another fake?
Do you want to explain why we shouldn't apply lynch all liars in this situation?

letme put it this way.
25% Scum read on you day1. 50% after you jumped on furcolow wagon. 100% after the three pages.

[RedPanda]

PLEASE PLEASE. GET PLENTY.

REDFF WANTS FIRCOLOW. PLENTY WANTS FURCOLOW. And Piggy Whatever role this person has wants Furcolow.

ALARM BELLS SHOULD RING.

Wait I've Seen this before.

Im having a case of Dejavu

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VOTE: Jakalope

There we go, I voted. Bandwagon ftw... not really, but I'm lazy and don't care. Everyone happy now?

hey guys sorry for not posting, it was kinda my birthday yesterday and i had some family stuff.
with the deadline coming soon someone must die and since there are already 4 people on jakalope i am going to

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Jakalope

we need a wagon and from iso'ing both of them jakalope is the better lynch

VOTE: jakalope

I doubt we're going to get eight votes on RedPanda in the the next 51 hours,so I'll UNVOTE:

I had a look through Jackalope and Lurconis' ISOs, I can't see why Lurconis is being voted for. He doesn't seem particularly scummy or towny. (Minor tangent: Is towny the word I'm looking for here?).

As for Jackalope, he voted for me in post 363 and gave no hint as to why.

FoS

: Meran
VOTE: Plenty

Then, in post 424, he points to post post 343 and says something seems off about it, but doesn't say specifically what.

/Sniped for length

My vote on plenty comes from this post. Something just seems off about it.

Then in post 520, he says my ISO is full of reasons to lynch me, but doesn't give any of them.

Come on, we aren't lynching me.

Obviously I look like an easy lynch, but I can assure you, I'm town.

Plenty is the lynch. Just read that ISO. It's full of reasons to lynch him. If you're seriously the lone vote on a wagon, switch to Plenty.

Which GhostWriter immediately calls him on, so he points to three of my posts, but doesn't say they're scummy, instead describing them as "wonderous" and only implying he finds them scummy, and not offering any analysis on any of them. He also says we should lynch me for association tells, but, from what I've read on the wiki association tells are only meaningful when one person is confirmed scum, which Peregrine seems to agree with when he says

Plus, it would only be true after some scum flips have occurred.

/Sniped for length

/Sniped for length

/Sniped for length

I'd like you to take a gander at these wonderous posts.

Allow us to lynch Plenty today. It would provide a truckload of association tells.

So VOTE: TheJackalope

vote: thejakalope

VOTE: TheJakalope

I believe he's Scum, and I feel like being a bit more trigger happy around about now.

ahahahahah.

[RedPanda]

PLEASE PLEASE. GET PLENTY.

REDFF WANTS FIRCOLOW. PLENTY WANTS FURCOLOW. And Piggy Whatever role this person has wants Furcolow.

ALARM BELLS SHOULD RING.

Wait I've Seen this before.

Im having a case of Dejavu

VOTE: Jakalope

There we go, I voted. Bandwagon ftw... not really, but I'm lazy and don't care. Everyone happy now?

hey guys sorry for not posting, it was kinda my birthday yesterday and i had some family stuff.
with the deadline coming soon someone must die and since there are already 4 people on jakalope i am going to

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Jakalope

we need a wagon and from iso'ing both of them jakalope is the better lynch

VOTE: jakalope

I doubt we're going to get eight votes on RedPanda in the the next 51 hours,so I'll UNVOTE:

I had a look through Jackalope and Lurconis' ISOs, I can't see why Lurconis is being voted for. He doesn't seem particularly scummy or towny. (Minor tangent: Is towny the word I'm looking for here?).

As for Jackalope, he voted for me in post 363 and gave no hint as to why.

FoS

: Meran
VOTE: Plenty

Then, in post 424, he points to post post 343 and says something seems off about it, but doesn't say specifically what.

/Sniped for length

My vote on plenty comes from this post. Something just seems off about it.

Then in post 520, he says my ISO is full of reasons to lynch me, but doesn't give any of them.

Come on, we aren't lynching me.

Obviously I look like an easy lynch, but I can assure you, I'm town.

Plenty is the lynch. Just read that ISO. It's full of reasons to lynch him. If you're seriously the lone vote on a wagon, switch to Plenty.

Which GhostWriter immediately calls him on, so he points to three of my posts, but doesn't say they're scummy, instead describing them as "wonderous" and only implying he finds them scummy, and not offering any analysis on any of them. He also says we should lynch me for association tells, but, from what I've read on the wiki association tells are only meaningful when one person is confirmed scum, which Peregrine seems to agree with when he says

Plus, it would only be true after some scum flips have occurred.

/Sniped for length

/Sniped for length

/Sniped for length

I'd like you to take a gander at these wonderous posts.

Allow us to lynch Plenty today. It would provide a truckload of association tells.

So VOTE: TheJackalope

vote: thejakalope

VOTE: TheJakalope

I believe he's Scum, and I feel like being a bit more trigger happy around about now.

ahahahahah.

8th vote count of day two

Furcolow

: 8 (killerX029,

Meransiel

, Plenty, PiggyGal15,GhostWriter,RedFF,

Shotty

,

Furcolow

)

Plenty 3 (

PereV

,RedPanda, MrDummieLee)

Meransiel

: 1 (David Xanatos)

Not voting: 2

izakthegoomba

Cobberfone

V/LA

No One

With

14

alive it took

8

to lynch[/color]

Day 1 final vote count

Jakalope

9 -

Shiidaji

, Cobberfone, GhostWriter, PiggyGal15, Killer, RedFF,Plenty,

Furcolow

, DavidX (Lynch)

Lurconis

3 -

Meransiel,

PeregrineV, Izak

,
plenty 1 -

Jakalope,

PiggyGal 1 - RedPanda,

Mera

1 - ,

Shotty

GhostWriter 1 - BuddyLee,

Not voting

Lurconis

V/LA

No One

With 17 alive it took 9 to lynch

Its funny.nobody still wants to lynch plenty

[RedPanda]

Killerx Your either really stupid or scum.

@per Plenty+killer. Piggy = scum or third party.
RedFF maybe scum.
one of or both Ghostwriter and Cobblerfone maybe scum.

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Your stupid because your judging per's vote When Your votes and reasons were pretty much shit.

And actually thanks for providing the while scum list.

[quote

]Null = Plenty, RedFF & Cobbler

[/quote]

Furcolow: 8 (

killerX029

, Meransiel,

Plenty

,

PiggyGal15

,

GhostWriter,RedFF

,Shotty, Furcolow)

Jakalope 9 - Shiidaji,

Cobberfone

,

GhostWriter, PiggyGal15, Killer, RedFF,Plenty

,Furcolow, DavidX (Lynch)

[RedPanda]

Vote Plenty

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And izak died Because he was going to lynch plenty tomorrow. Everybody Whos trying to save plenty are scum. Everyone who even tries to say plenty is a null read are scum.

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Yes, I have. It changed my mind a bit, but I still read plenty as leaning town at that point.

However, the exchange with RedPanda gave me some major scumvibes. If one of those two is scum, my money's on plenty.

But I'd still prefer a Furcolow lynch.

I'm happy to lynch plenty tomorrow if nothing significant happens overnight. But right now, Furcolow is scummier.

Obv Me dying would Make it obv You were scum. Izak would have supported my call for your lynch today. You just killed him for that. If you were town and i was scum There would be no point in me getting izak killed. Your just scum and your Scumbuddies just dont like to bus.

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Also let me indulge you. Who are scum then?

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aahahah. I killed izak to get town cred instead of getting a lynch on you today? Please start making some sense?

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nah still doesn't make sense. If i was scum I would have just gotten another townie killed who supported you. and then gotten izak and whoever's left to help me lynch you.

So You dont suspect killer redff cobbler at all???

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nah your not focusing on anybody else because your scum.

I have my whole scum team here.

Killer because of his stupid votes and his especially stupid vote on per and him declaring you were a null read at page 36 after what happened day 2.

cobbler because of his post 850 - he goes on to give unlikely pairings and then completely excludes you from his scumlist.

RedFF - I'm not sure about this guy. If there were 4 scum - this guy would be my vote.

Piggy's - not scum anymore.

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Surely if you were town You would have realized that killer/RedFF are very scummy with their votes. Or are you trying to tell me the votes on jakalope and furcolow Are all town votes?

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Piggy is town. Ghostwriter is town. the only connections i can see within the wagons are you cobbler and killer who keep calling each other null reads or town reads.

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I don't need piggy cobbler or ghostwriter to say anything. Killer and you are enough for me to change my reads.

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It doesn't matter if piggy is third party. Its LyLo and we have to lynch mafia.

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Its true Ghostwriter hasn't done anything apart from being part of two mislynches. Atleast hes not declaring the other three null or town.

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I wanted a 1vs1 with plenty on day3 But plenty and his scumbuddies chickened out and lynched furcolow. too bad.

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No activity :\

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what happened to your rereads plenty?

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I do Believe cobblers scum but its not as strong as the feeling i get with plenty. Mostly because of his interactions with plenty before he started calling plenty town.
@Ghostwriter Do you think plenty is scum or not?

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hello kuribo.

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The reason i think Piggy is town is because of his/her crappy play and all the Piggy votes from the scumteam and

You wake up to find Meransiel handcuffed to the lamp-post with his gun, and a confession lying beside him of being a Seriel Killer, and so you drag her of to jail where you forget to feed her, and she dies.Meransiel was Dexter, Serial Killer arrested Night 2.

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Hey killer Why is Plenty bussing you? You should also stop defending yourself and go ALL in AGAINST PLENTY.

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And killer I checked out Jakalope's ISO day 1. there was nothing there that deserved a lynch. So Shut up about that. Fucolow maybe but you should have unvoted as soon as you saw the wagon on him. It seems like you don't care about mislynches.

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COBBLER? You think both wagons are bad?

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@Kuribo: Who's in the scumteam if Killer flips town?

you know, i keep re-reading Cobbler's "rebuttal," and I keep coming back to this


why does it rub me the wrong way that he asked me this?

your right Kuribo. i get the same feeling that cobbler is sure of killer flipping town.

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unvote

you mean Jakalope?

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Why did you investigate David x and not me night1 ?

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and why did you not push for a meransiel lynch after figuring out which vig was inno.

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I don't buy it also. Why Investigate Davidx and not me or piggy your biggest scumreads night1 ?

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So Me and piggy were your biggest scum reads day 1. You didn't investigate either one of us and investigated davidx whom i don't think you mentioned any suspicion. But ofcourse you can't say you investigated either one of us because you called us both scum.

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Couldn't you have killed izak so you could say I killed him because he was going to vote for me?

My current reads are you and piggy, but I've been on you so long, I'm getting worried I might have tunnel vision, so I'm going to do a re-read when I've got time, and see if I still think that.

You killed izak to lend weight to your theory on me, hoping your theory that I killed izak would persuade other people to vote for me. If izak was alive, and was still willing to vote for me, you'd be 2/6 of the way to lynching me. You seem to think that you and izak would be enough to lynch me.

So, to get me lynched, you'd make it look like mafia want me lynched? That makes lots of sense.

Not particularly, but that's the reason I'm going to re-read, to make sure I haven't overlooked a person scummier than you because I'm spending so much time focusing on you.

I found you scummy for two days, yet didn't manage to get a lynch on you. Surely if I was mafia I would have dropped you sometime yesterday and gone after someone there are other people wanting to lynch.

LOL LIAR

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NoNo back on plenty.

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Post 1034

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That doesn't sound like somebody who got an innocent result on me

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Anything to add Plenty?

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And thanks kuribo for pointing that out.

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Its LYLO or MYLO. I don't see any point for Plenty cop to add drama to his scumhunting

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It wasn't even like a "I think your town" I should concentrate on scum post. it was a my biggest scum reads are still you and piggy. you could have killer izak to make me look suspicious etc... I mean Come on

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killed*

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I want plenty to explain his side of those posts. and i also want to know why he investigated David x

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I know.I could believe it but the nightkills of Shiidaji and izak are consistent with him being scum. and plenty didn't strike me as one with balls for an all out confrontation because of day2.

Stuff i want plenty to answer -
Why david x?
Why David x before me and piggy?
Why the posts about me killing izak to make you look scum?

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And Plenty Whats the scumteam? start working.

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this gut feeling. Did you post it anywhere? You had two possible scum reads and you investigated a gut read after being forced into a surprise night action?

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Whats the scumteam?

And killer i think you should claim also.

[RedPanda]

you don't have a role name?

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What do you have to say about plenty's claim?

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Your last post just pisses me off Killer.

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Killer stop being Lazy. give me a time when you will be available. I want to ask you a few questions When your here.

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i'm just tossing ideas out there. like, maybe a psychiatrist variant that instead of curing the SK, if he targets Dexter at night, it kills him instead of curing himlike, I dunno, a cop that catches serial killers

I agree. I thought Deas Was this role. If i have to believe plenty's claim Then Deas Can you explain why piggy played the way he/she did and why he/she had a problem with getting shot at night?

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If you did arrest the SK. I thing it would be wise to claim now. because David X did say hes going to vig you.

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think*

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Alright.