Driving Mafia - GAME OVER - Kentic controls all the cock!

[scooby]

vote Themask

[scooby]

that was a serious vote btw

[scooby]

Something tells me Norman's role was too much to handle. I await fallout/pic flip.
On another note, this seems like a semi Return to Gambits reunion, so hello again to you guys.
Claim noted.

no vote: check
overanalysis of a irrelevant fact: check
trying to look friendly to avoid suspicion: check

we need to lynch this scumbag gogogo

[scooby]

Actually Coug just become confirmed scum.

scooby says you over-analyzed an irrelevant fact (Norman replacing out). Would you like to explain this?

Why did you feel the need to emphasize that I was the one that made the case when you agreed with me in this line of question?

What part of TheMask answer did you agree with that you unvoted him inmediately?

Vote: StrangerCoug

[scooby]

Actually Coug just become confirmed scum.

scooby says you over-analyzed an irrelevant fact (Norman replacing out). Would you like to explain this?

Why did you feel the need to emphasize that I was the one that made the case when you agreed with me in this line of question?

What part of TheMask answer did you agree with that you unvoted him inmediately?

Vote: StrangerCoug

What?
No seriously please explain how someone pointed out that you made the case in the first place is a scum tell.

Its a common scumtell.

Scum usually try to make townies fight. In this scenario, Coug is the scumbag trying to make TheMask town attack me.

Its not about me doing the case and coug reinforcing it. Its the tone. Its like "SCOOBY said that you are scum, what do you think about it, huh?". Something like that.

[scooby]

VLA until tomorrow

[scooby]

This makes no sense. Please link where you have seen this scum tell before.

It would actually expose my alt and I don't want to do that atm.

Let's just imagine an scenario where one townie makes a case against one townie. Do you think its unlikely a scumbag would try to make these townies fight saying something like: "oh, Townie A just made this case against you. What do YOU think about it?"

Its the way Coug said it that bothers me. It sounds to me like "oh, look at what Becca said about you, what are you going to do, you have to do something!"

It makes total sense to me. Have no idea why you dont get it, shrug.

[scooby]

Votes TheMask for "serious" reasons. These reason's are crap to me and null
1) no vote from many people happens from scum and town.
2) overanalysis is not scummy. I had a game a person replaced out pregame and declared them scum. They were scum by the way and I was town.
3) null and really I didn't see it.

.
Are you seriuous? I made that case on PAGE 1. They are not the ultimate scumtells but at least they are better reasons that "lol, derpRVSvote, lol".

Im even going to say that scumbags generally are scared to vote so that they dont get negative attention, tend to overanalyse so that they can blend their machiavelic arguments and so on. Well, those are scumtells.

What is a scumtell for you, farside? Claiming scum is one of them?

[scooby]

In other news, ill pull an scooby

like
ankamius
stevie
kiwieafle
the mask

not sure if serious or just retarded
kcdaspot
vezo
rice
NS
Shadow dancer

dont like
nocmen
strangercoug
farside

Im happy with my coug vote. Ankamius and stevie are prob town so I dont see the hate. Anyone care to give me a valid reason here?

[scooby]

I think your stretching things a bit. If he left out your name would you notice it?

Thats precisely the point. I feel he added the name as a way to make TheMask react against me and not against him, even though he agreed with my case.

Scum tend to sit on votes in my view. They typically blend into the crowd and very few who know how to push cases well or if they make cases they are weak with very little reasoning to it.
I have seen town and scum overanalysis. Saying only scum do it is ridiculous.
You claiming scum there.

Scum dont want negative attention. They dont vote as freely as town does since they are worried about how they are perceived. That was my point. Town never does overanalysis. Town should always post what they see and dont exaggerate things. Only mafia does this.
Okay, we disagree in mafia theory. You are stubborn. I am stubborn. How does this mean Im claiming scum?

Hi Mr. OMGUS.
So you don't like me with no reason. Like most scum would and over reacted with a vote. Like scum does.

Its only OMGUS when you dont like people for no reasons. I dont like you because your reasons to attack me are not well thought. Im not overreacting. Im defending myself against attacks that dont make sense.

[scooby]

How the fuck did you come up with that list?

You have ankius at like and me at not serious?

Are you sure you know how to play.

Please explain in detail at least three of your reads.

Ankamius is not scum because scum would not gather negative attention for refusing to provide reasons to a troll like cooldog.
Coug is scum for reasons Ive already provided.
Kiwieagle is town for his tone and his reasoning.

You seriously thought I didnt know how to play after posting a list of people withouit reasons?

Im happy with my coug vote. Ankamius and stevie are prob town so I dont see the hate. Anyone care to give me a valid reason here?

why is cooldog missing here?
My scumreads are getting better.
[/quote]
So I am scum because I missed cooldog on this list?

Mask, I didn't like how he started. he didn't vote firat and mentioning someones role like that still doesn't sit right with me.

scooby seems to want to lead everyone nowhere.

Seriously? How am I doing this? I am the only one who has given stances on basically everyone but cooldog. Am I going nowhere?

Wh

[scooby]

scooby seems to want to lead everyone nowhere.

Yeah. If it were really my plan to pit The Mask against scooby, it clearly backfired. I am not taking credit for what's not mine. That's just plain wrong.

I'm still unhappy with Kcdaspot, while farside22 reads town. The Mask isn't my top town read, but the only real thing I have against him is his defense of Kcdaspot. I think it's too early to call the two of them the same alignment.

what do you think about me, Coug? Am I scum, town?

[scooby]

I wanted to know what Coug would answer.

Townies usually think people attacking them with lame arguments are scum.

So the following question to SC is, why do you think Im town?

Also, I now have themask in town side because I liked the way he reacted to the pressure.

[scooby]

Scooby: What else from farside, except the vote on you, do you find so scummy? Because in 175, when you mention that a disagreement with her doesn't make you scummy, why does that same disagreement make her scummy?

The case against her is not that she disagrees with me. The case is that she is using this disagreemen in mafia theory to push a case against me. Do you really think a case "Well, his case in FREAKING page 1 is full of null reasons" is a good case?

If someone has a bad attack on them, why won't they try to prove it otherwise? I'm not liking how you think this movement all of a sudden makes people town.

Thats what Im doing. I also said that people who have bad attacks on them and defend themselves are town. I dont see what point are you trying to make here?

I see why you would reveal the reasons on SC and Ank, but why someone like kiwi as your third?

Kiwi is my most confident town read.

He says scum do it only and not town. Then he puts Mask on a town list.

When did I say ONLY scum do it? Can you stop putting words in my mouth?

Finally I'm waiting on Scooby to answer the last question I asked him. You know the one where I ask him who else he finds scummy.

I said Coug. I said Nocmen. Im also sure one of the lolVIs is scum.

[scooby]

I got proded. Lol.


Anyway nothing interesting happened.

In two sentences, why am I scum?

[scooby]

If town never does it. Then TheMask should not be on your town list.

Town should never do it. Do you seriously think only scum make scumtells?
I feel we are debating theory and missing the important thing. Yes, my RVS vote was against the scummiest thing I saw in page 1. Yes, those scumtells are not 100% indicative of scum but I still mantain that scum do it more than town. Yes, I liked how Mask reacted to the pressure. Yes, I found something scummier than those scumtells : my Coug case. This is normal progression of reasoning with new information not the calculating scheme you are trying to present.

Because I'm mainly curious as to why your reads seemed so strong this early.

I do this in every game. I make a list of people and evaluate scumtells/towntells.

You flipped on mask to coug in literally three posts.
You also formed a read list nearly complete in only 7 pages.
Scum.

Are you seriously attacking me for having reads.

You know what? Fuck this.

Vote: vezokpiraka.

I seriously cant decide if farside is scum of obnoxious townie at this point. What does everyone think of her?

[scooby]

StrangerCoug:

-I didn't like his jump onto the mask wagon- disagreeing with part of the case and agreeing with the other part seemed like scum trying to not look like they were buddying to me.

-As mentioned already- makes out scooby to be the attacker (even though he agreed), which sounded to me like scum attempting to fuel a town-town conflict- "Scooby says..." -I didn't like the defence against this either- (part of it is *I obviously haven't caused a conflict now, have I*")

-Over-the-top (in my opinion) defence of the mask and the rolefishing thing
-I didn't like the vote change to Ankamius- Did SC actually find him scummy? Why would Ank have bothered defending if there wasn't anything solid to defend against (and I thought his actions were made pretty obvious anyway)
SC, why do you suspect me (Ankamius)?

Nocmen

-Mainly just a feeling at the moment. Little things about some of his posts that struck me the wrong way.

Finally someone with a brain.

[scooby]

inb4 farside rages

[scooby]

Scooby, that vote is terrible. Seriously.

FoS

explain why

[scooby]

I updated my list

like
ankamius
stevie
kiwieafle
the mask
kcdaspot

undecided
NS
Shadow dancer
farside

dont like
vezo
rice
nocmen
strangercoug
cooldog


basically kcadspot is notable town read, i cant decide farside, im starting to hate vezo and rice. and i agree with the cooldog hate, specially the appeal to emtion on top of page, also 2 days to deadline, we have to vote for one of the top wagons, etc

vote: cooldog

[scooby]

post tomorrow, etc

[scooby]

5.)

scooby, when you first made your “scooby list” in Post 157 you did not mention CooLDoG, nor did you clarify where CooLDoG would have been on your list when this absence was pointed out (the best opportunity would have been Post 176). Despite literally not mentioning CooLDoG the entire game day, in your last post you slotted him as “don’t like” and voted him.

Why did you “agree with the CooLDoG hate”? Please explain the “CooLDoG hate” in your own words.

the first interaction of my scooby list would have put cooldog on "not sure if serious or retarded". When we got close to deadline I reread the top wagon, cooldog at the time, and didnt found anything remarkable protown. 300 particularly caught my attention since it sounded like a bad appeal to emotion and a soft buddy to desvail, something a townie doesn't usually do when is "about to be lynched".

so yeah nothing particularly town, a slight scumtell, deadline.

[scooby]

I updated my list

like
ankamius
stevie
kiwieafle
fishy
petroleum

undecided
NS
Shadow dancer

dont like
vezo
rice
nocmen
strangercoug

Not many changes. The two replacementes are stil town. I think Coug is still scum and I would like a claim.

Vote: StrangerCoug.

[scooby]

L-1 if Im right-

[scooby]

Next time I should not post anything. Would it be better?

Its not useless. I have reasons with those reads that go from "remarkable town/scumtell to gut". Do you sincerely think I could compile a list of people and then asigne them random positions?

[scooby]

inb4 post reasons.

Im prob giving them in the weeked. So far I want Coug to claim.

Why did you unvote him?

[scooby]

post tomorrow, etc

Why even bother posting such a useless piece of shit post like this?

Prod dodge.

Nothing much of interest has happened.

[scooby]

I just isolated NS after that lame hypoocrite attack I just quoted.

Verdict is that he should die, constant lurking, attacks and reads that vanish with time which is a scumtell is slow games.

Anywasy, this game still needs a boost and less people (scum or VI) alive.

[scooby]

Coug can wait a biut anyways.

Vote: NS.