The game of the year: town won!

[Kairyuu]

Well now. Saw I had a role pm and decided to go give the thread a read. 18 pages since this morning.

nope.avi

Who should I be voting and why? The why is key.

[Kairyuu]

@callforjudgement: Goodposting, but I made it pretty clear I've no intention of reading what I missed. Definitely not now, possibly not later unless it becomes relevant. You're the first one to respond to me, so you get a direct question. How likely is it that IceGuy is a mime? I saw chesskid's flip, iso-ed the mod, and now I'd very much like this information.

[Kairyuu]

@callforjudgement: In my opinion that's pretty much optimal jester play. Methinks he's got an above-average chance. Next question, who do you think will be lynched next? Not who you want to be lynched next, but who looks like the most likely lynch at this time. This question is very important.

[Kairyuu]

vote: izakthegoomba

If the previous vote was not the hammer, mine was.

[Kairyuu]

For reference: I have no read on izak one way or the other (I don't even know what he's posted). Something interesting is about to happen. Hopefully. Might not have worked. We'll see.

[Kairyuu]

A quick note: izak is probably not dead. His wagon will have been reset, but he shouldn't be dead. Take that as you will.

[Kairyuu]

A quick note: izak is probably not dead. His wagon will have been reset, but he shouldn't be dead. Take that as you will.

you're going to need to explain this sooner rather than later

No I won't. myko will do it for me, when he gets back. All I'll say is that if people still think he's scum, they can just relynch him.

[Kairyuu]

@T-Bone: myko will tell you when he gets back. That is going to be my response to any questions about what I did, why I did it, etc, until myko comes back.

[Kairyuu]

Lulz. JoaT here. Awesome powerz. Glad you lynched me?

Assuming you've not noticed what I've been saying, I'd take this as a pretty conclusive town tell.

You're not dead (I think).

[Kairyuu]

Kairyuu, what have you done?

I have done things. Glorious things. Things that will be revealed whenever myko logs back on.

Long story short I sent an action to the mod that would cause your lynch to fail and something else to happen instead. As for what happened instead, I would have to be an IDIOT to reveal that before the mod comes back. If it worked, and I was right, good things happen. If it didn't work, I'll try again. If it worked but I was wrong, oh well.

[Kairyuu]

Going to sleep now. Hopefully I have time to at least look at the thread before work tomorrow.

[Kairyuu]

/dances

Awwwww yyeaaaaahhhh.

<3 semi-random D1 dayvigging.

@all: PLEASE NOTE: While I am fucking awesome and totally beneficial to the quality of the game by eliminating the jesters, it has NO BEARING on my alignment whatsoever. I would have just as much reason to eliminate them as any alignment except mime, which I clearly am not.

Work time.

[Kairyuu]

Skimmed everything since last night. Going to come right out and say that this game is moving too quickly for me to be willing to commit to anything more than reactive play (responding pretty much only to people who jump out at me as scummy or mention me in some way during skim sessions, and commenting on what I feel is pertinent while I'm actually following) until it slows down. Potentially more on days I don't work (Sunday-Tuesday). Not that I didn't expect this, but yeah.

@Chevre:

Kairyuu's initial post is so dumb. "Oh a fifty player game /in " "Ohmigoodness! Lot's of posts! lolnope" Kairyuu, read the whole thing and tell us your thoughts.

Nope.avi

Or, to elaborate a bit more, we got 18 pages over the course of about 8 hours. The likelihood that there was enough pertinent information in those pages to warrant reading them, especially right now, is approximately 0%. I can say WITH CERTAINTY that the VAST majority of it consists of spam and mindless bandwagoning. There is literally no other way that 2 people could have been lynched in that period of time.


On a final note, anyone using activity to justify literally anything in this game is chasing shadows.

BBmolla's vote on redFF and Kairyuu's vote on izak are pactically the same thing.

Nope.avi

But you probably know that already.

My love of causing things to die makes me want to sheep Fritzler. I may end up doing so. Not sure yet.

@all: Now that my action has resolved (I was being deliberately vague on the off chance that someone had been able to make it not happen, like a mime day-doc or something silly) I'm going to go ahead and explain it a bit.

First, I am an angel. This gives me the ability to cause a lynch to fail. If I use the ability, I am then forced to submit a kill immediately. This person dies instead of the lynch target, and one of the day's lynches are used up. The power cannot be used when a town majority would be lost by the lynch. In other words, I cannot save a lylo mislynch and shoot the scum hammer vote to continue the game. The ability would auto-fail. It would also auto-fail if I used it on myself.

Second, I will not answer ANY questions regarding the number of times I can use my ability. These questions will be ignored.

Third, if I can use it again, and I choose to, I will not alert anyone of this fact until it has already happened and the action has resolved.

Fourth, I know that there is at least one more angel in the game. I also know who he/she/they are, and can daytalk with them. I will not reveal how many there are unless I am the last one alive. I expect that the other one(s) would also do the same in order to prevent scum claiming angel. I would also likely mention that there are no more hidden if both/all of us are claimed at any point, as the likelihood of multiple anti-town kills/night is high, and it is possible that both/all of us could be wiped out in a single night.

Fifth, I know whether or not I know the alignment of the other angels. I will not reveal this information unless absolutely necessary, and will hold it even under threat of lynch.

Sixth, I have advised the other angel(s) to refrain from claiming until he/she/they have used their ability at least once or are about to be lynched. As the person stopping the lynch is public, there is no reason not to claim credit once it's been done.

One important thing that can be gained from this claim is that since the angels have daytalk, there is a STRONG possibility that the mafia does too. Keep this in mind.

As for the current scum numbers guessing, it's pretty obvious what we're looking at, in general.

We know that a single scumgroup cannot possibly control enough votes to cause a lynch at the start of the game, as that would make it theoretically possible (though highly unlikely) for the scumgroup to auto-win by "racing" the town. Of course, MANY factors would have to fall in their favor (all other killing roles being inactive, all of the scum being online at the same time every time a day has just started, under 10 other players being online at that time, etc), but still.

Therefore, no scumgroup can be larger than 9.

Multiball is highly likely in any setup even approaching this size. I would estimate approximately 15 total antitown roles in the game. Possibly as high as 20, but unlikely. I personally believe that they're separated approximately as follows:

6 mimes (confirmed)
2 groups of 4-6 scum
1-3 assorted other antitown roles, serial killer or otherwise

[Kairyuu]

@imaginality: The more I think about it, the more I think that coming out with it is actually a good idea.

Fine, we are NOT confirmed to each other. However, based on a few things, I will be treating him/her/them as my mason partner(s).

1. Statistically speaking, the odds of one of the angels being scum is pretty much negligible.
2. I firmly believe that the optimal play for town neighbors is to treat themselves as masons. It eliminates the drawbacks of neighbors (paranoia, failure to use the QT for anything constructive) and turns them from a role that's only SLIGHTLY better than a vt (and arguably worse depending on the situation) into a powerful force on the side of the town.
@Anyone who disagrees with me on this theory point: I'd be happy to discuss this either in MD or via PM (after the game, of course). Please don't clutter the thread with it as it's not relevant to the game.
3. The nature of our ability makes it a balancing issue if handed to the scum. This should be obvious.

@theamateur: You clearly didn't read my post. Not answering any of your silly questions of silliness.

Elli is obvtown. So is Fritzler. Sheeping Fritzler for the time being.

vote: UN

[Kairyuu]

Ohai sykedoc. I see the assassins have failed.

In other news, I'm thinking UberNinja is town based on wagon reactions and now oppose a lynch. It's a Bad Plan (tm)

unvote

Unfortunately, there's too much noise going on, and too many easy targets for me to actually get a scumread I'm even remotely solid on, so there's that.

@Ellibereth: How likely is Captain Corporal to be scum?

@Muffin: same question.

[Kairyuu]

@Elli: Alright. Why is he infintesmally better than random?

@Muffin: Who are your scumbuddies?

[Kairyuu]

If you think I'm scum, why aren't you voting me?

But to answer your question: Kairyuu, mith, and YamiChan.

@syndrome: Oh, settle down you.

In other news, asking doesn't violate any of the site rules, and definitely doesn't violate myko's ruleset.