The game of the year: town won!

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33 pages in a day and a half. Fuck this shit, literally. The only reason I don't replace out right now is because I made a deal with myko and I don't think he's going to find that many people willing to replace. Seriously, I'm not going to reread a single post that I miss in this game cuz fuck you guys. Also, still V/LA.

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Hmm, just noticed that you idiots have managed to kill off 8 town players so far. Good fucking job, lmfao...

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*lurk*

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Prod-dodge

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um. apparently this game started. yeah... 41 pages in. Not going to read all of that. will be following now.

I hear you bro. Mod sent the role pms and then started the game without even bothering to tell us he was starting it. Pretty lamesauce...

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That moment where I'm called lurking scum and 3 people have less posts than me. Not sure where those people on my wagon got their BS logic from.

V for VICTORY

I vaguely remember someone saying something about how voting based on activity would be chasing shadows in this game...apparently some people here didn't get the memo, lol...

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Still here, still not reading.

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V/LA until Monday, lol...this game has terrible timing.

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Back from V/LA.

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I'm lurking BECAUSE I don't care. lol...

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V/LA again until Monday.

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oh look another night passed while I was V/LA. Cool.

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Nope, I'm not getting lynched. Pretty funny though.

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Cuz I'm obvtown and it'd be pretty stupid to take me out before the game gets small enough that I actually give a shit. Also because the scum aren't going to nightkill me anytime soon because they think you're gonna get retarded and lurker lynch me.

Alright, I'll see you guys in like 2 weeks when I get back from SoL.

xD

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At this point I want to see how many people die before I place a vote. lol...

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lol told you I was obvtown xD

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Pfft...don't think I'm going to start being more awesome just because you wagoned me. I just happened to check the thread and see a post with my name on it...decided to respond because I had time. I'm probably not going to post for like another 10 days, except proddodging (I'll be on V/LA so maybe not even that).

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Actually MoS should be lynched soon but its a shooting gallery

Nope.

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Glad you see things my way.

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And yet you want to vote me? What is wrong with you dude? I'm pretty clearly not scum by this point.

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HOLY SHIT ELLI IS ALIVE

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And yet you want to vote me? What is wrong with you dude? I'm pretty clearly not scum by this point.

hmm nope you asserting that makes me think the opposite actually!!!

You should listen to what Amrun said...she's way better at this game than you.

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Amrun is dead you imbecile.

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FTR petapan strikes me as more of an idiot than scum.

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Switching to active lurkers, let's look at Ellibereth since he practically asked us to. Look at his iso. There are no meaningful posts in there whatsoever.

I have no meaningful posts either...why you discriminating?

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Chevre is scum.

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no he shouldn't, it makes theamatuer's that much more ridiculous and hilarious...

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I'm obvtown so just don't worry about me.

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hi.

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Oh man Trevor is scumz?

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is it me?

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Oh look people are voting me. That's silly.

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called's vote on elmo looks nothing like bussing. Looks like opportunistic voting to me.

MoS is an angel

Let's not do that shit again today.

I'm an angel?

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EBWOP: I appreciate the compliment but I don't see how that's relevant.

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? It's not like I'm dead or anything...no one would be stupid enough to lynch me when I'm this obvtown.

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Zoraster and Staeg are probably scum.

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hmmana

unvote

think time

Good man.

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VOTE: MoS

GO GO GO

^scum.

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Sure you will.

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That means you agreed to Trevor.

Go ahead and explain that one.

I personally didn't say anything about Trevor in our QT, but from what I could tell in the two posts of his I read, he was being a dumbshit. Not really sad he's gone.

And duh I'm an angel...thought that should've been obvious by now. Even without that information, though, lynching me is pretty fucking retarded.

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^confirm'd, although I didn't post in the QT until after Delta replaced in, lol...

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I'm V/LA again. I approve of this Zoraster vote, obviously.

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I'm wondering where the hell this elli counterwagon just came from

Just people being stupid.

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Really?

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Congrats to me!

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hahaha yeah you're confirmed town which is why you've lived for 7 straight nights and kondi2424 was shot dead, okay cool great thanks awesome

no. DW should be last, if at all.

they all need to go at this point

MoS first. I feel he is more likely scum for

1. Active lurking
2. Kondi was on to him (though he also wanted all the angels dead)
3. Avoids that redirect shit

Kondi's death suggests to me either the angels are being set up or they or one of them is scum killing off the main people wanting to lynch them. WIFOM but they need to go sooner or later.

@theam: your point is complete WIFOM. What about the fact that all the people who I have been sheeping have been basically killed in succession? Are mafia trying to set me up? WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM lovely WIFOM cakes with milk and cream.

1. Define active lurking. Really. Like, I want you to justify my play as active lurking.
2. LMFAO. Kondi barely mentioned me at all this game (literally 3 times, you can look it up), and he wasn't even one of the ones trying to lynch me yesterday...your argument has absolutely NO factual basis.
3. You not wanting to give the town a chance to stop your mislynches from going through isn't a good reason to think I'm scum. In fact, that's not even a logical conclusion and it in no way has any bearing on your "case".

Wait, so kondi's death is WIFOM but because it's WIFOM the angels have to die, whereas we should NOT try to lynch you because the deaths of people you were sheeping is a WIFOM point? You're just throwing around the term haphazardly without actually making any reasonable conclusions. I don't think you actually understand the point of WIFOM.

Seriously, just because I called you scum yesterday doesn't mean you have to make it so obvious now. I was going to try and enjoy the chase for a while...

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1. You turned up when people were voting you to spout your 'I'm an invincible angel, so town it's not funny' crap. Then you dissapeared. Unless you've been posting it up in the QT I don't see much evidence of scumhunting nor commenting on bandwagons, town/scum reads etc. Ok, so I concede it's more lurker or inactivity than active lurking. But why haven't you been engaged? Zajnet and Delta are, so PR is no excuse.
2. Uh, he was trying to lynch you. He wanted all the angels dead. He conceded to voting Zor after the bandwagon was massive.
3. I don't understand what you are trying to say here. What case? I never had a case on you. My case is on the angels, and you seem scummiest simply by lack of input and gut. WHAT CASE??

I never said you shouldn't try to lynch me because kondi died. I said MY statement was WIFOM, but I felt like saying it anyway, because I know I am town and I feel like part of the reason kondi was killed was to set me up. I don't expect anyone else to believe this.

1. I've been pretty much ignoring this game in its entirety and prod-dodging the whole time. That's because I don't give a fuck about this game and I'm only in it because I made a deal with myko. That alone pretty much confirms my town meta.
2. He mentioned me 3 times. Three times the entire game. There were a host of people who wanted me dead far more than kondi did, and far more vocally. Trying to pin his death on me is fucking retarded, especially since I was V/LA the entire night phase and didn't have computer access (actually, now that I think of it I've been V/LA for *every* night phase in this game...).
3. I'm glad you admit that you have no case on me. Good to be on the same page.

You're the only one who thinks kondi's death implicates you as scum...so why the fuck are you bringing it up? Sounds more like you killed kondi and planned to WIFOM your way out of it...except you started spouting your crap too early when no one actually thought kondi's death made you scum.

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It's really pointless to evaluate anyway, SpyreX. Any angel vote is retarded at this point in the game.

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Really, Techno?

MoS first. I feel he is more likely scum for

[...]

2.

Kondi was on to him

(though he also wanted all the angels dead)

[...]

Kondi's death suggests to me [...] one of them [angels] is scum killing off the main people wanting to lynch them

. WIFOM but they need to go sooner or later.

Vote: Technowc

BOOYAH FIRST VOTE OF THE GAME

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You can't just say a bunch of shit to back up your vote and then couch it with "WIFOM" so that you can back away from it later. WIFOM doesn't work like that.

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You're scum for postulating a bunch of reasons why I might be scum and then quickly backing away from all of them and trying to hand-wave them when I debunk your actions.

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You're scum for postulating a bunch of reasons why I might be scum and then quickly backing away from all of them and trying to hand-wave them when I debunk your actions.

I never called you scum. I said you were the most 'scummy' out of delta and zajnet. If you weren't an angel, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

So now you're saying you don't think I'm scum, but you want to lynch me anyway? If you're *not* calling me scum and you think that my angel partners are more town than I am, why the FUCK would you want to lynch any of us? Keep flailing, scum.

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VOTE: zajnet

yeahhh just re-read his ISO and this is the only person i'm going to be voting so long as i'm alive the next few gamedays and i don't see him making any mention of trevor, makes me think he took deltawave's stupid and ran with it

We all discussed the possibility of killing trevor far before it happened, fyi. Just...not in the game thread.

That said...

Good gravy you angels make me want to bash my head against a wall.

If there is a scum in the angels I would put all the monies on it being Zaj

This I would have to agree with, although I don't think we have any scum at all. However, Zaj was the most vocal proponent of us all being most definitely town when DeltaWave questioned it...the thing that gives me pause however is that the original idea was Kairyuu, who Delta replaced. This basically clears Delta in my mind, because I see no reason why Delta would contradict his predecessor's idea to treat our neighborhood as a masonry, not when he had Zaj's explicit agreement, and mine by way of not vocally disagreeing.

Really tempted to use my ability to redirect a Techno lynch onto Techno...just to make him pissed off that I got him anyway. =P

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funky is more likely scum than Zajnet. If you're going to try and stop yourself from being the lynch, vote someone who might actually be scum.

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So vote funky and you'll get a 2 for 1 on Peta based on the flip, most likely. I'm certainly not opposed to a funky lynch, I just happen to think you're a better target right now. Day isn't over yet, though.

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Just glancing through the VCA makes me fine with funky dead, want BB and Techno dead, want theam dead and there's a way high chance of a scum in:

Thetrollie, Jackal711, Staeg

Wow, when did SpyreX and I get on the same page? Seriously, BBmolla, stop playing to your scum meta again...I don't even have an incriminating result on you this time and I can tell you're playing your scum game...at least *try* to be subtle about it...

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Wrong.

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I don't need to read the game to read BBmolla. He can't help his meta.

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I think Techno and Trollie are both scum, that NS wagon looks hella sketch.

Unvote, Vote: trollie

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How many votes were on NS when the guilty was claimed?

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Yup, he's scum.

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BBmolla is scum.
Techno is scum.
Theamateur might be scum.

More importantly, all 3 of us angel-type peeps agree that petapan was INCREDIBLY scummy yesterday. The least of which was DAT HAMMER.

Vote: petapan

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vote: Zajnet

I personally think this is the last scum

The fact that theamatuer thinks there are only...7 scum?...makes me really not want to vote him right now.

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i've hammered 5 different lynches (2 scum, 3 town) and probably could have sent funkybike home but if you think my MO as scum is to drag my feet on some sweet mislynches then bus-hammer my buddy lol ok w/e

I don't think those were both mislynches, and I think you had talked yourself into a corner by defending Techno, so you couldn't have jumped on his wagon. I think you were hoping that funkybike would get mislynched and you wouldn't have to be on his wagon. By the time the momentum shifted to trollie, it was too late to try and counter it with a funky vote IMO, so I see no reason why you wouldn't decide to get on your scumbuddy's wagon.

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HOWEVER, that is moot because I'd kill all you angels 8 times over before peta.

You *do* realize that Delta's death basically confirms all the angels as town, right? Scum are trying to get rid of known town PRs because the game is getting smaller and we're starting to be able to PoE. There's no fucking way in hell that if Zaj or I were scum we'd ever let an angel get nightkilled...as a voting block it'd be way too advantageous to scum, and it'd make it way harder for the town to ever lynch a scum angel correctly if we left them all alive.

So yea...next time, stop and think before you put your foot in your mouth, SpySpy.

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Ohh I thought.

I'd kill every single one of you even if I knew you were town.

Between your nothing until you got strung up and DW's petulance ending in Trevor dying which was fueled by Zaj (hint: the scum in the group if there is one) and the fact that with your wonder twin powers uniting you two baaarely inch out the mod and the secret scum mod for posts (and lets not talk about quality versus quantity because woosh) you can call it foot and mouth all you want.

In fact I'll make it abundantly clear so that when the time comes for another pro shot you know where to put it:

If EITHER of you are in hammer range I'll do it gladly. With sweet delicious relish and I'll rub my belly all the way to the bank.

Peta is town. Just like Trevor was.

I would hammer you guys over and over and over until the candy fell out before I pretended to touch that wagon.

Cuz you're bad.

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no, it doesn't confirm all you guys as town at all actually

it confirms that scum saw deltawave as a threat because after derping for 160 pages he Did A Good Thing and was no longer allowed to live

That doesn't at all explain why Zajscum (or MoScum, for that matter) would see DeltaWave as a threat.

hell if i wanted to be an asshole i'd argue the phrasing "town angel" implies that loloneoftheangelsisscum (but i know it doesn't. you're both still potential suspects in my eyes, though)

Then why bring it up? Sounds like you're just mudslinging at this point.

hell if you're that fuckin confident then 2v1 me, just condemn me to surefire death and see where it gets you, hotshot

Who said I was that confident you were scum? I have a good 4-5 scum suspects right now, and I know they can't all be scum. That doesn't mean you're not a great place to start after the ridiculously horrible way you played yesterday.

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That is indeed not a scumslip, but if myk added more than 9 scumteam members to this game I'm going to murder him, simply because you can control a lynch by piling all 10 votes on anyone.

For what it's worth, we played 17p Vengeful at Scummer of Love (8 scum, 9 VT), and the scum lost despite their overwhelming lynch influencing powers. It's because bussing exists.

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That's not what I mean, MoS. 8 is not 9, and 9 is the amount of votes required for a lynch. Try winning a 17p vengeful with 9 scum.

This is why Angels exist, I think.

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i've hammered 5 different lynches (2 scum, 3 town) and probably could have sent funkybike home but if you think my MO as scum is to drag my feet on some sweet mislynches then bus-hammer my buddy lol ok w/e

I don't think those were both mislynches, and I think you had talked yourself into a corner by defending Techno

, so you couldn't have jumped on his wagon. I think you were hoping that

funkybike would get mislynched

and you wouldn't have to be on his wagon. By the time the momentum shifted to trollie, it was too late to try and counter it with a funky vote IMO, so I see no reason why you wouldn't decide to get on your scumbuddy's wagon.

Wait what? You know funky is town or something?
And one minute you are saying I am scum, but here you seem to be suggesting that I am town? What the actual fuck.

I like how you completely failed to interpret ANYTHING in my post correctly. Nice try, though.

1) Of course I don't know if funky is town...however, peta-scum implies funky-town, and the evidence supports that as a possible theory.
2) I don't see how you could POSSIBLY think I'm suggesting you're town. I just said I didn't think the two wagons were both mislynches, and then

in the very same section you bolded for emphasis

, I state that I had a theory that petapan was scum hoping funkybike would get mislynched. This is simple math, for fuck's sake. Here, I'll spell it out for you:

Premise:

2 wagons (funkybike and TechnoWC)
# of mislynch wagons < 2 (ie, 0 or 1)

Calculations:

funkybike wagon = 1 potential mislynch wagon
1 mislynch wagon - 1 potential mislynch wagon = 0 mislynch wagons remaining
2 wagons w/ 1 mislynch - funkybike mislynch wagon = 1 scum wagon
2 wagons - funkybike wagon = TechnoWC wagon

Thus...

(for those of you *coughtechnocough* who still don't get it)

TechnoWC wagon = scum wagon

Cancel the wagons (TechnoWC

wagon

= 1 scum

wagon

)

TechnoWC = scum

It's pretty fucking simple, even a child could understand this sort of basic arithmetic, and the algebra at the end isn't all that advanced either. =P

tldr:

HOW THE FUCK COULD YOU POSSIBLY THINK I WAS SUGGESTING YOU WERE TOWN YOU STUPID DUMBFUCK!?

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Unvote, Vote: Techno

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Vote: theamatuer

Tomorrow it's TechnoWC. Don't fuck this up.

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Also peta is still scummy as hell.

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Why are people voting syndrome today and not theamatuer?

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Why are people voting syndrome today and not theamatuer?

Why did you save me if you believed I was scum?

Many, many reasons. Most of which you don't have clearance for.

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Who can I sheep

Anyone but petapan.

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I'm 1 for 1 on scum lynches. That's 100% success rate.

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I don't seem to recall Techno being lynched, do you?

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Hello, pot.

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Hello, pot.

Shouldn't that be "kettle"?

Nope.

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I decided to take Timeater's analysis one step further and look at wagon distribution and vote positioning on scum wagons. Feel free to use this as you will.

zajnet:

Town - (3) Hoopla, sykedoc, PeregrineV
Scum - (4) manho[5], Nobody Special[1], callforjudgement[5], TheTrollie[5]

staeg:

Town - (7) T-Bone, Luffy, Hoopla, sykedoc, YYR, PeregrineV, DeltaWave, zoraster
Scum - (3) Nobody Special[4], callforjudgement[6], TheTrollie[3]

theamateur:

Town - (2) T-Bone, Luffy
Scum - (1) Fritzler[4]

LowMan/Jackal711:

Town - (9) T-Bone, Robotnick2, Hoopla, dramonic, sykedoc, YYR, PeregrineV, DeltaWave, zoraster
Scum - (4) Fritzler[5], manho[6], callforjudgement[4], Zdenek[3], TheTrollie[7]

funkybike1:

Town - (2) dramonic, YYR
Scum - (1) Zdenek[8]

Sleepykrew/timeater:

Town - (1) Captain Corporal
Scum - (1) TheTrollie[9]

BBMolla:

Town - (6) moneybags, Captain Corporal, Luffy, dramonic, sykedoc, PeregrineV
Scum - (3) Fritzler[3], Nobody Special[7], Zdenek[10]
Mime - (1) izakthegoomba

spyrex:

Town - (7) Captain Corporal, T-Bone, dramonic, sykedoc, YYR, DeltaWave, zoraster
Scum - (3) manho[10], Zdenek[2], TheTrollie[8]
Mime - (1) izakthegoomba

syndromeofadown:

Town - (4) The mini-libarian, YYR, PeregrineV, DeltaWave
Scum - (3) Nobody Special[10], callforjudgement[8], Zdenek[4]

Elmo Teh Azn:

Town - (2) The mini-libarian, Luffy
Scum - (1) Nobody Special[3]
Mime - (1) izakthegoomba

petapan:

Town - (8) Robotnick2, Milk, dramonic, sykedoc, YYR, PeregrineV, DeltaWave, zoraster
Scum - (5) Fritzer[10], manho[3], callforjudgement[2], Zdenek[1], TheTrollie[10]
Mime - (1) izakthegoomba

Ellibereth:

Town - (2) moneybags, Captain Corporal
Scum - (0)

chronopie:

Town - (4) Robotnick2, Hoopla, dramonic, zoraster
Scum - (2) Fritzler[7], manho[8]
Mime - (1) izakthegoomba

Conclusions:

- If Zajnet wasn't an angel I'd look at him for his middle positioning on 3 of the 4 scum wagons. However, he hasn't been on a lot of town wagons so that's good.
- On the other hand, the following people have a disproportionate # of town lynches: Staeg, Jackal711, BBmolla, SpyreX, petapan. However, someone has to be on the lynches, so that alone isn't damning.
- Of those who are left (theamateur, funkybike1, Timeater, syndromeofadown, Elmo Teh Azn, Ellibereth, Chronopie), most of those have been on too few lynch wagons to make any conclusions. syndromeofadown is the only one with a decent history, and his lateness to two of his 3 scum lynches are suspicious.

tldr:

We have 6 dead scum. I'd guess we're looking for 3 more scum, then. I think it's likely we have one scum in each of the following groups:

1) Staeg, Jackal711, BBmolla

2) SpyreX, syndromeofadown, petapan

3) theamateur, funkybike1, Timeater, Elmo Teh Azn, Ellibereth, Chronopie

Not really sure how much of this is useful yet or where I want to go with it, but there you have it. That's my thoughts so far, at least what comes out when I watch TV at the same time. Multi-tasking is fun!

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MoS, why were you only on 2 lynches?

Vote: Technowc

BOOYAH FIRST VOTE OF THE GAME

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Look at how many lynches have happened since that post.

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P sure TA just chainsawed for Spyre

@pedit: dont make me do work man I dont want to quarrel with as you're probably town, no need for obfuscation. not alot, right? so why haven't you voted?

Pick any/all of the following:

- Bored
- Lurking
- V/LA
- It was funny
- It was a goal
- Wasn't necessary
- Wasn't paying attention

Really, take your pick.

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Only if that angel is Zajnet. Since I'm obviously not scum.

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Who would lynch Hoopla anyway?

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there's a chance spyrex is scum but honestly still think it's low

still think soad is scum because i get no real towntells from him

don't really think it's ellibereth because of inactivity

And yet you wanted me dead...

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Not really. I really hate huge games like this.

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So you'll only bother to talk when some one says your name?

That's basically how I play most games these days, especially this one.

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Was that question addressed to me?

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V/LA till monday

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I am super amused that everyone was so gung-ho about lynching theam and they were pissed at me for saving him and yet not a single person is voting him today.

That actually makes me think there's a good chance he's scum and was getting bussed in part yesterday and his buddies decided to run interference today since he got saved.

Vote: theam

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And it seemed like everyone was against me doing so in name, but not in action.

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Finally.

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See? I saved town from mislynch! >.>

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I'm not sure if I actually want to put this game in my statistics lol. Too many lynches.

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The DeltaWave kill was pretty dumb as well.

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Killing DeltaWave confirmed that Zajnet and I weren't scum. It was a really dumb move.

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This is the last time I make a deal to /in for a 50 player game lol