Otherworld Mafia - Vasta - Over

[Nobody Special]

Vote: Amrun

Because, you know.

[Nobody Special]

Meanwhile, in Voweltown...

Let's not make this game any more confusing than it has to be, and minimize interworld communication. If you have things to discuss with people in the other thread at length, you have the option to switch and talk to them in person, but this method you're using, Tierce, will just muddle the chronological order of discussion.

I'm not saying that references to the discussion in the other thread should be avoided. Vasta dealings may or may not be immediately relevant to us. But let's address the issues brought up on the other side, instead of addressing the people.

I don't feel that this is a pro-town post AT ALL. I mean, everyone signing up for this game knew the situation, and knew that things would get complex.

I don't see the reasoning behind ignoring the people over there; they could be just as harmful to us as people over here.

[Nobody Special]

by staying split up we are halving our efficiency -

No, if we are all in one thread, we get one lynch as opposed to two.

i'm not complaining about it.

Bull fucking shit. Shut the fuck up or replace out.

EBWOP: FL, I already answered your forced immigration question. I feel controlling immigration would cause people to miss night actions, which is anti-town. Unless both threads hit all the scums, it would just be not in the town's favor on the basis of losing town power. And Tierce, already explained that a mountainous set-up this big, would be scumsided.

@Mod: Can one portal and use a night action?

I thought I read over the rules...failure is me.

Very nearly conftown. Scum are MUCH more diligent about the rules. (Caveat: Could be faked. Thus the "very nearly.")

[Nobody Special]

I'm not seeing how FL's post 45 is any kind of scumslip.

[Nobody Special]

At this point, I would vote for FaerieLord, but I won't put him at L-1 without any input at all from Yos.

Therefore, consider this my intent to vote, once Yos comes in and posts.


A thought: We could manipulate the day and the discussion by holding someone at L-1 until a lynch is reached in the other thread, then hammer at our leisure. (Of course, nothing is stopping the other thread from doing the same thing.)

[Nobody Special]

Oh, and before the haters pile on: I didn't say it was a

useful

thought.

[Nobody Special]

Just want to point out that FaerieLord is at L-1, a place where I deliberately chose to not put him because we still have a player who hasn't even posted yet.

I don't bother with FoS (because it's stupid), but I'm watching you, TF.

[Nobody Special]

"Attacked" ?

Really?

[Nobody Special]

Still can't see what my slip is. Once people point it out, I might answer :shrug:

This is why I voted FL. His phrasing just seems to indicate that it's

possible

he slipped, while just waiting to see if anyone caught something that truly could be seen as a slip.

Also, I don't feel that I "attacked" TF. I was just very clearly pointing out that FL was again at L-1. My reasoning for not putting FL at L-1 was to avoid a quickhammer (yes, even though I found FL scummy -- yes, I feel it's possible that there could be two scumteams).

Yos, you'll note that between my 79 and 109, came FLs 102, which is partially quoted above.

[Nobody Special]

Oh, my RVS vote is still there. I should fix that.

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Vote: FaerieLord

[Nobody Special]

Do you know if you can protect people if they switch?

[Nobody Special]

Vi, I JUST NOW got what you were trying to say. Okay. Fail parse was fail.

Well, I'll re-read, but I don't see another way of parsing it. If you're able to elaborate at all, or clue me in, it would be appreciated.

I think too much discussion is being spent on the doc CC.

I also do not like Panzer's vote on me.

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Vote: Panzer

[Nobody Special]

Everyone should note that I'm currently doing two things as a mafia player: Trying to actively change my meta by playing more "towny" no matter my alignment; and actually paring down the number of games I'm in simultaneously in order to give each game its proper level of activity.

That being said, if you wish to try to outguess my alignment even though I'm telling you I'm actively changing it, be my guest.

I think Amrun is being a bit too cautious, but she's looking pretty town to me.

Either FaerieLord or Trollie is a good lynch for today.

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Vote: FaerieLord

[Nobody Special]

There appear to be a lot of people who aren't reading you worth a damn in this game.

I just think this means Vi is scum and knows that Tierce is town. YMMV.


Also, BBmolla, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CONSOLIDATE YOUR FUCKING POSTS. Seven or so in a row is ridiculous.

[Nobody Special]

NS: Answer me. Why did you back off panzer? Answer me, why did you choose me over Trollie, despite finding us both scummy. Answer me, why do you find Trollie and I scummy in the first place?

I backed off of Panzer because my vote on him was emotional and unreasoned.

Why I chose you over Trollie, and why I find you scummy, are covered in my post 149.

I've double-iso'd Trollie and me, and honestly, I can't see any reason that I said he was scummy.

[Nobody Special]

I would obviously prefer not to be lynched, for a reason that I'd prefer to not talk about just yet.

[Nobody Special]

Is this where I claim?

[Nobody Special]

Claim:

I am town. I am a Mimic. I choose a player, and I get their night ability. I keep this ability until I choose a different player to mimic.

I think this is useful to town, and I am willing to be town-directed.

[Nobody Special]

Panzer, what makes you say that? (BB, same question to you.)

Also, peta, my Role PM uses a variation of the verb copy, so I believe the original user retains the ability.

[Nobody Special]

...

[Nobody Special]

Shmugen: You had three scumreads (none of them being ToonFighter) recently. Yet you left your vote on TF for over 100 posts. Now he's null.

Please explain.

[Nobody Special]

My Role PM doesn't say; I'm awaiting an answer from the Mod.

[Nobody Special]

For the record, I thought I was a third party survivor.

My initial reaction to this was: "Surely a third-party role would be more explicitly worded."

Then I went back and re-read the Role PM. He's right, it certainly can be interpreted that way. (I just didn't. I assumed town.)

[Nobody Special]

@MOD: Please prod or replace Amrun. Is there a reason I'm unaware of that she's gone 8.5 days without posting with no repercussions?

Also, please prod Yos2.

[Nobody Special]

Sorry, I missed both of those. If only we had some sort of systemic banner sort-of thing that would display with people's posts.

Oh, wait.

[Nobody Special]

This fucking game.

It's ironic that I first claimed Mimic and now everyone else is mimicking me.

I swear, if I turn out to be the only Mimic.....

[Nobody Special]

Wait. Hold the phone.

Are you

seriously

trying to tell me that, less than 48 hours to deadline, you're going to start a fresh, new wagon?

There are no words.

[Nobody Special]

Just a thought: What if, as a group, we Mimics are like Mimes and if one dies we all die?

(I didn't say it was a

good

thought.)

[Nobody Special]

Oh, I'm an idiot. That's not Mimes, that's Lovers.

Never mind.

[Nobody Special]

Voweltown:

Vi & Tierce: The flavor in my Role PM essentially matches the flavor in the Vasta opening post..

[Nobody Special]

Why does the thread in twilight have more activity than the thread that STILL HASN'T LYNCHED THIS CLOSE TOD DEADLINE??

/rhetorical

[Nobody Special]

VASTA:

Voweltown:

Vi & Tierce: The flavor in my Role PM essentially matches the flavor in the Vasta opening post..

I missed the important bit the first time around. Nobody Special, what opening post flavor are you referring to? Please quote it.

Five hundred years ago, your kind lived in the World of Men. They had many names for you, including The Others, and The Folk. When they started to turn from the mystical to their machines, your ancestors decided it was time to leave.

A new world was created, and your kind left through a portal for your new village, closing the door behind and casting yourselves adrift. For the intervening centuries your kind has lived in the peaceful, medieval Vasta, pressed close against the comforting woods.

Recently, the portal was found re-opened. Like a boomerang, your new world has returned to the World of Men, near one of their villages. A new threat has also appeared, as some of your kind have turned up violently dead…

[Nobody Special]

Yos, I keep the role until I target another player to Mimic.

So, yes, if I Mimic a role I especially like, I can be that till I die.

[Nobody Special]

I *should* be around at deadline; I want to read Shmugen before that.

I'd prefer to Mimic ToonFighter.

[Nobody Special]

I'm only doing this for fear of no-lynching, being this close to deadline.

Hasta la Vasta, baby!

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Vote: Shmugen

[Nobody Special]

Vote: MoS

It couldn't be more obvious if he blatantly admitted being scum.

[Nobody Special]

I must be a fool, then.

My vote stays.

[Nobody Special]

And your point?

[Nobody Special]

Actually, another thought. Two actually.

1. I don't think it was every established that all the scum couldn't teleport and still use a factional kill re: tierece
2. If Tierce claims not to have moved by herself, and she flips town, then that means scum moved here. Does moving tierce seem like a pro-town action? That means is no one claims to have moved tierce, that ability is scum.

WHICH COULD MEAN;

if scum can't teleport and kill, and tierce's move doesn't get claim, two scum are in here, one killed and one moved tierce, and the other three are confirmed not red scum. So yeah.

Back to your regularly scheduled programming.

You seem to be forgetting the possibility that a scum portaled to Vasta and

took Tierce along for the ride.

That would, indeed, leave one left in Aia, and not two.

[Nobody Special]

WIFOM. Even worse, self-WIFOM.

[Nobody Special]

I still think MoS is scum and I will push his lynch till I die.

[Nobody Special]

I meant to post this earlier, and apparently got sidetracked. I want to verify that what TF said is correct. It is Healer, not Doctor, and I'm not going into any further explanation.

[Nobody Special]

Sparkly Twilight prod-dodge.

[Nobody Special]

I hate you.

[Nobody Special]

I'm just gonna put this out there; I have no idea if it actually affected anything or not.

Last night I Healed Tierce. My thinking was that if she was truthful about being moved, that it might undo the curse and move her back. Therefore, I *might* be responsible for her switch. Then again, I might not.

I have no idea. I'm considering mimicking someone else because Healer seems rather lackluster.

[Nobody Special]

Page 3 was a meh page full of meta but this was interesting since it was all about NS...

NS is actually playing to his town meta right now. Normally, I completely disagree with meta usage but on NS, it's pretty much the only way to catch him.

Yos is still not here so I can't agree with yosarian2 yet..

what is ns's town meta. tell me everything.

Let's let NS tell you himself..

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p4032193

Since he spent days convincing me lurking was his town meta, and being active what his scum meta, I can see anyone getting a bit paranoid over his play this game.

MattP is town because BB is town but this is complete and utter BS

Also, yes, NS it town too, I can read him like a picture book, it's just a gut feel with his, but generally he is more proactive and aggressive as town and reserved and lurky as scum.

And I'll take this opportunity to tell you (and everyone else) that I've been actively changing my meta in the last month or so.

Oh, you quoted me saying that. Never mind.

I'm only doing this for fear of no-lynching, being this close to deadline.

Hasta la Vasta, baby!

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Vote: Shmugen

Why did you feel the need to point this out?

Point what out? That we were so close to deadline?


I find it rather odd that Tierce has nothing to say about what I recently posted.

[Nobody Special]

Tammy: because I didn't see him as particularly scummy, but no-lynch is terribad.

Vote: roflcopter

[Nobody Special]

I'm waiting for something, after which I'll tell you what I was waiting for.

[Nobody Special]

Okay, I was waiting for MoS's claim.

He is, in fact, a roleblocker. I don't know his alignment, though.

[Nobody Special]

Which reminds me--yo, claimed mimics. Does your return-PM mention anything about your target's

name

, like "PLAYERNAME is Z-role and now so are you", or does it just go "your target is Z-role and now so are you"?

No name is mentioned. My initial request was quoted and I was told that I received a Roleblock, and then a description of roleblocking.

I see the distinction, but I'm not following. Can you expand on this line of thought?

[Nobody Special]

Very interesting.

I don't think SatanCat is town. Not at all.

[Nobody Special]

I don't think SatanCat is town. Not at all.

care to elaborate?

Just gut.

[Nobody Special]

Very interesting.

I don't think SatanCat is town. Not at all.

If I had a vote in Aia, this is where it would be.

[Nobody Special]

^5

[Nobody Special]

Aia:

Anyone other than M.Ludi who wants to answer my question about what exactly a Mimic does would be helpful.

Actually, I'd love to have Ludi answer this

and no one else before him

. Then have FaerieLord's input,

then

have Panzer verify it.

I, ummm, you know, am a Mimic too.

I feel so unloved.