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Post Post #559 (isolation #0) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:39 pm

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Hi phoneposting for now.

FIRST THOUGHT: all VT/goons originally from vasta are probably mimics. Flavor implies a different species, a jillion claims on the non-human side of the portal for mimics makes this seem likely.

SECOND THOUGHT: MoS probably here cause he either a) missed the plan entirely or b) consciously disregarded the plan.

THIRD THOUGHT: I would not put it past scumTierce to switch threads intentionally and play it off like this. I am not saying that is definitely what happened here, just that this doesn't make Tierce town.


More things later when I have time. :)
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Post Post #569 (isolation #1) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:09 pm

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FIRST NON-PHONEPOST COMMENT

petapan if a mimic targets me they will
die
. They might get my ability but it will not matter because they will be
dead
. You're still town though.

I need to re-read this thread (which I will do not-tonight). Based on what reads I do have, I'm comfy with an SB wagon or an MoS wagon for now.

I agree with Tierce's setup spec on *wonkynames* coming from Vasta and normal roles from Aia. Makes sense to me.

As to Molla's question about mimics outing, I vote no unless they got something obv-scum ("you will appear innocent to investigations trololol").
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Post Post #573 (isolation #2) » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:41 pm

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Peta, usually doctors can't protect save you from a PGO shot.

Mods: If a doctor-type role were to protect someone who targeted me, would the person who targeted me die?
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Post Post #640 (isolation #3) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:29 am

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Hi I will catch up hopefully at lunchtime today. I had a crazy weekend. :(
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Post Post #648 (isolation #4) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:28 am

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HI

So I have caught up on Day 2 in both threads. Basically, the only things I need to comment on are that Petapan is town as fuck still, I am 100% A-OK with Sir Bastion dying today, and when tomorrow comes around, we should lynch MoS (thanks for the confidence boost, Plum).

PARTY.

I'm going to ISO folks from Vasta / re-read Vasta D1 / etc. when I am not at work, and hopefully give some slightly more nuanced perspectives on things at that point.

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Post Post #649 (isolation #5) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:29 am

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Oh, and just so everyone knows, the reason I'm not trying to jumpstart an MoS wagon here today is because Peta's point about waiting for NKs in Aia before we target them makes sense.
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Post Post #661 (isolation #6) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:00 pm

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my god

ponfvapfovnspovaspoj

IF ANYBODY HAS A GUN SHOOT MOS WITH IT HOLY SHIT
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Post Post #663 (isolation #7) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:15 pm

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lol. Yeah cause we reeeeally expected somene to quickhammer out of this playerlist. My bad.

Like, holy shit. MoS knows better than that. That was hilariously retarded, and I don't care if he's a town beloved princess bomb supersaint innocent child he needs to DIE.
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Post Post #664 (isolation #8) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:16 pm

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I would agree with DCL's plan for MoS in the other thread, but we have no way to enforce that.
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Post Post #675 (isolation #9) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:53 pm

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way to answer his question. :thumbsup:
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Post Post #730 (isolation #10) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:08 pm

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Molla it makes me sad that you think MoS is town cause holy hell is mad vigbait right now. And yeah if you shoot Peta I will find you and rip that damn leprechaun beard out, hair by hair.
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Post Post #753 (isolation #11) » Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:21 pm

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Just letting everyone know that
I am semi-V/LA until Saturday evening
. I'm in Canada for work and will probably have less MS access than usual.
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Post Post #782 (isolation #12) » Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:03 pm

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Man, absolutely nothing of any interest has happened in either thread recently. Yes, I know, I am part of the problem by not doing anything about it at the moment, but I don't think everyone is away on business trips at the moment. >_>

Go back, reread, make some damn connections. Do something. Hell, talk to the other thread! They're at least still looking for someone to lynch. Help your human bros out, Vastanatives.

(I plan on doing all of these things as soon as I have enough time all in a block to sit down and do it.)
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Post Post #806 (isolation #13) » Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:27 am

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Ok so. I am doing the re-readings while waiting for my plane that has been delayed for 4 hours to show up. IMPORTANT THINGS UPON RE-READ OF D1:

FL is not scum with Schmugen. His position and entrance to that wagon (which basically made it a viable counterwagon) is not something a teammate is gonna do when NS is the easy lynch. (The only way this is incorrect is if NS is a much stronger scum role; elsewise NS is probably also town.)

Second:
In post 494, Toon Fighter wrote:Also, I am not a simple doctor. My name IS Healer, and I have healing powers. However, there may be some limitations to them. I didn't want to say that right away because I saw no reason to do it, but I can state now that, even if all the mimics target me during the night, there will be no game breaking combination tomorrow.


This is something to remember for the future; it implies to me that there might be additional/altered kill methods for one or more factions.

After ISOing Shmu, I am pretty sure that NS is town based on their interactions.

I still think that mimic probably = VT over here, just so everyone is aware of my opinion on the subject.
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Post Post #814 (isolation #14) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:01 am

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Dear lord the walls. Word of advice, Tammy: If you don't know something about mechanics when you replace in, and you haven't read the
rules of the game yet
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I get the points on Shadoweh, but I'm not convinced yet.

Since I don't believe my question from before was ever answered, I will reword it in such a way that the mod can answer without guaranteeing my abilities, etc:

Mod: If a Mimic were to target a PGO while being targeted by a protective role, would the mimic survive? Would the mimic gain the PGO ability?
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Post Post #816 (isolation #15) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 8:49 am

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Yeah; my power seems custom-designed to fuck with this whole thread, basically. *shrug*
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Post Post #823 (isolation #16) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:27 am

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What peta said. ^5

En la manana, Vasta needs to be trying to lynch MoS, I think (or vigbullets would be awesome, too, just to repeat that). I need to look over WoMC/Tammy/whoever else has been in that slot, too.
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Post Post #824 (isolation #17) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:32 am

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ALSO HEY AIA: peregrineV's most recent post inspired me to ISO IAAUN; Peregrine is correct in that it makes implosion (and MoS, to a much lesser extent) likely to be scum.
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Post Post #828 (isolation #18) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:53 pm

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Tammy, if scum was looking for the 'no shit sherlock' NK, it was Vi by a mile. IAAUN was townish, but he had been MIA for a good chunk near the end of the day, and was significantly less obvtown than Vi (at least from what I gathered of Aia's opinions). I agree with much of what you say about Shadoweh here (though I disagree with your characterization of his play in ERM as uselss/on the sidelines/etc, but that's another story), but that particular point is pretty inaccurate. Scum killed IAAUN for a reason, almost certainly.
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Post Post #832 (isolation #19) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:01 pm

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Yes, MoS, I am! Your ISO in this thread is almost entirely you proclaiming your own towniness and quickhammering SB. Not exactly a shining example of town play over here. Hence the point about vigbullets being preferable to a lynch: you may not be mafia, but you're definitely scum. (SpyreX-sig style.) And yes, I realize that lynching/vigging from the pool of you/Tierce is not likely to catch scum from a numbers perspective. That doesn't make it a bad idea.
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Post Post #841 (isolation #20) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:09 am

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Panzer, check this post from me for why he's not blue scum, at the very least.

Also, MoS, the burden of proof is on you to prove that I'm not being town. *shrug*
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Post Post #842 (isolation #21) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:10 am

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ALSO

I am
V/LA until Friday
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Post Post #848 (isolation #22) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:43 pm

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>_> lack of protown behavior?

please refill your prescription of paying-attention-pills.
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Post Post #869 (isolation #23) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:24 am

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In post 854, Mastermind of Sin wrote:
You're welcome to prove me wrong.


If you want to argue with me, you've got to give me something to argue against. Just making random accusations of "quadz is being anti-town" or whatever your exact words were isn't giving me a case to respond to. Again, the burden of proof lies upon you, not me.

In post 856, Sir Bastion wrote:
Now Would we like to have Quadz address why he declared FL clear of shmu links since one brief look at the fl vote shows that there could easily have been bus intention behind it?


Sup. As I mentioned in that post, I believe, why would FL bus shmu at that point when NS was an easy lynch? Again, only reasoning is that either all 3 of them are scum and NS is more powerful, or both FL and NS are not scum with shmu.

In post 859, Tierce wrote:I don't like the missing word here. Everyone makes typos, but this feels like you constructed the post a priori to add whatever result you then saw fit.


I just felt the need to add a "what." to this, even though it's already been discussed. This one of the worst attempts at passing something off as a scumtell I've ever seen. I've no idea what it says for Tierce's alignment, and whether it's legitimately scummy, or if Tierce writes her posts in that way when she's scum (in which case, watch out for missing words in Tierce's posts). Can you elaborate, Tierce?
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Post Post #871 (isolation #24) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:06 am

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I'll be there. Switching every night still in accordance with ze plan.
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Post Post #873 (isolation #25) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 7:56 am

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I just re-read, and you're totally right. FL is not cleared in any way shape or form and I don't know what I was thinking when I made that comment.

I apologize profusely to thread for being an idiot. >_> I think I must've just looked at FL's iso, and mod's iso, and gone off of that, instead of (derp) looking at what happened in between.
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Post Post #876 (isolation #26) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:03 pm

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I'm a fan of anti-town viggings. Always have been, always will be.*shrug* And yeah, the accuser has to provide evidence of his accusation. Otherwise, the accused cannot respond.
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Post Post #877 (isolation #27) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:03 pm

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To clarify: anti-town viggings = vigs targeting anti-town players.
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Post Post #1041 (isolation #28) » Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:15 pm

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My guess is that scum can shoot cross-thread, and I'd put down money that Aia is all town right now, and both scumteams are shooting for what they know to be all-town on that side.

VOTE: Tierce. The threadmoving wifom bullshit, the D1 scumminess; we need this out of the game, and fast.
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Post Post #1047 (isolation #29) » Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:52 pm

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That's a good catch on the flavor of the kills in Aia.
Mod, can we get confirmation that flavor on last night's kills are written accurately?


In response to "why not MoS": his single move is less suspicious than your multiple ones. *shrug* I admit that it's possible that scum is flipping you back and forth just to fuck with us and make us lynch you, but at this point, we'll KNOW that's what's happening if you flip town, making that maneuver pretty much useless in the future.
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Post Post #1054 (isolation #30) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:18 am

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MoS. Claim please thanks. Good catch, DCL.
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Post Post #1078 (isolation #31) » Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:37 pm

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So we have a confirmed roleblocker claim, with targets consistent with MoS' townreads. His jump in here today claiming RB on LS reads really superholyshit town to me. MoS doesn't get lynched at this point. Ever.

I think it's pretty clear that the there are no vigs in the game at this point, or at least not one responsible for the kill in Aia. MY GUESS ON WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED OVER THERE:
Bluescum mimics can mimic Redscum kills / kill flavor, and kills can be made cross-thread.

I honestly can't think of anything else that makes sense.I really don't think there are 2 scum in the other thread right now, and even if there were, it still wouldn't explain the change in kill flavors. I am about 100% sure that it's all town, and scum is going to continue picking them off until our group of notquiteconftown is gone.


P-EDIT: No, we absolutely should not assume that LS is town. However, he's no more or less scummy than he was before the actions; MoS' action doesn't seem to have affected NKs in any way.
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Post Post #1088 (isolation #32) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:14 am

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I'll hopefully ISO LS today. He's been a nonentity in my mind for pretty much all game (which is possibly a minor scumtell in and of itself? we shall see) so I need to get a better grasp of what his play has been like.
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Post Post #1089 (isolation #33) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:42 am

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HOLY SHIT I AM STUPID

The kill in Vasta was blocked. One of the kills last night in Aia was because either Plum or projectmatt targeted
me
, explaining the dual kill flavor of "shot."

HERPDERP

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Post Post #1091 (isolation #34) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:53 am

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Guessing Plum wanted to test it.
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Post Post #1094 (isolation #35) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:08 am

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Hrm. It does seem unlikely based on their respective reads on me that either would've targeted me. Nonetheless, the kill flavors seem pretty clear... I don't see another simple way for there to be two "shot" flavors over there. And in this case, I think Occam's Razor prooooobably applies.

Hell, projectmatt may have targeted me solely because he was convinced I was scum. *shrug* I dunno. Plum was also pretty checked out at the end of the day. so who knows.
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Post Post #1128 (isolation #36) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:57 am

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What do
you
think happened, Vi? If it's not that I was targeted, then what was it?
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Post Post #1136 (isolation #37) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:50 am

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There is a good part of me that wants Aia to no-lynch today, because I fully predict that only one of them will be around tomorrow if they lynch.

I DO think that either Aia should come over here, or we need to get about half of this thread to jump ship to Aia.
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Post Post #1138 (isolation #38) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:00 pm

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Oh that's true. I just now realized that the PGOdeath means that there is still a scum in Aia.

iiiiiinteresting.
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Post Post #1141 (isolation #39) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:12 pm

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oh. derp.

Should I stay here tonight then?
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Post Post #1142 (isolation #40) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:14 pm

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I say it's an Aia-only massclaim today. We've almost certainly lynched the last of the bluescum over here. If the game isn't over after Aia lynches their last scum, THEN Vasta massclaims.
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Post Post #1145 (isolation #41) » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:30 pm

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JUST TO REITERATE SO WE DON'T GET ANYBODY WHO WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION

THE MASS CLAIM IS AIA ONLY. VASTA DO NOT CLAIM PLEASE THANK YOU.
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Post Post #1155 (isolation #42) » Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:13 am

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It's
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possible that MoS is a scum RB, but that would mean there's either >3 scum on a team, or there's no redscum in Aia, both of which seem nigh impossible at the moment.
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Post Post #1157 (isolation #43) » Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:01 am

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>_>

why would you ever use that role as town, DCL. whyyyyyyyyy
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Post Post #1163 (isolation #44) » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:08 am

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*shrug* we'll murder his face off at some point; everyone in Aia right now is getting killed one way or another.
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Post Post #1170 (isolation #45) » Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:03 pm

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This game has become increasingly sillier as the Day wears on. Aia, lynch somebody already. I suggest DCL, for having the scummy-as-hell power and using it. :thumbsup:
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Post Post #1172 (isolation #46) » Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:41 pm

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Who would you lynch over there, Tierce?
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Post Post #1174 (isolation #47) » Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:58 pm

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*shrug* Vi's attitude in that thread right now is holyshittown, IMO. I mean, they're all going to die regardless, and I just think that the ability DCL just claimed is so hilariously anti-town it's not even funny.
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Post Post #1176 (isolation #48) » Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:58 pm

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If LS doesn't flip scum after his comments post-MoSclaim, I will eat a sock.
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Post Post #1189 (isolation #49) » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:43 am

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Mine as well. It's the best starting point over there.
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Post Post #1198 (isolation #50) » Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:00 am

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lynchmclyncherllynchlyncherson
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Post Post #1207 (isolation #51) » Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:34 pm

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^MoS speaks ze truth. And in any case, we'll know if we're wrong (by killing off all the 4 people currently in Aia) pretty soon anyway. *shrug*
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Post Post #1218 (isolation #52) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:28 pm

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weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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