Minimum wrote:What worries me more is that he'd devoted a lot of breath to saying no one should unvote me or treat me as town, when his vote on me was apparently just a bandwagon vote based on our page two posts
I've argued with Tierce about the validity of our respective reads on you, but I don't believe I have ever told anyone not to unvote you.
(and he misrepresented those posts badly, as CES already explained--WTF does "muddying the waters" even
mean
?). Have you actually started catching up with the game, greenknight? Have you read any of our posts in the middle of the game?
I'm mostly caught up at this point. So... first off I'll admit that I actually thought those page 2 posts I don't like (34, 37, 43) were written by CES because I thought they fit his style more from my memories of AFFC, which is why I thought CES had picked up the votes for your hydra. However that doesn't change much. You guys Chose MoI on page 1, in #34 you explain your policy on choosing followed by saying "or just choose MoI" - this phrasing makes it unclear whether MoI was a real or RVS joke vote. #37 you then ask MoI why he voted himself, with an added sarcastic line about the meanies ganging up on him, and #43 you make a joke scum claim. Again, to me this read as muddying the waters, not because jokes are inherently anti-town, but because by posting this stuff instead of "hey I didn't like MoI's reponse because of X" it remains it unclear WHY you are choosing MoI (a vote that stays on for 10 or so pages.) I could potentially see this as a reaction test, but you didn't claim it as such. And there is the oddness MoI pointed out in his post later that if you do think MoI is a good Choice in order to get a town vig as opposed to scum (34), then why question his selfvote.
Who are your suspects right now?
Feysal
Minimum
bvoigt (complaining about Sala going after weaker players, when he's himself done nothing but attack Sala who is also a weak player)
staeg (mainly a gut read atm)
Other popular wagons:
I don't know what to make of shadow, I'd expected him to be more aggressive about calling people out as scum no matter his alignment from the 2 games I've played with him, here he is just taking more of a generally argumentative approach, but I don't see any "this line of argument is scummy" tells atm so he can live for today.
Snow's responses to attacks on him feel natural and townish in the sense of "I'm explaining my style and I'm not changing it just because there's a wagon on me."
Hyperion just reads as someone who had no time to play the game and, oddly enough, although Shinori came in and voted exactly the same way as I did, I trust him less for doing it.