Discworld Mafia - Called

[Thor665]

@Mod - 'pushing up the Ankh' should more appropriately be titled 'vaguely pressing down on it while laying atop it' methinks. Just saying...

Vote: Slysly

I have a town read on Mitilos.
I'm out of RVS.

[Thor665]

Greetings all!

Time for some questions.
1) Is there anybody in this game that you trust implicitly coming into it?
2) What is your favorite animal?
3) If you were given the choice between vig or cop, which would you choose?
4) How do you feel about these questions?
5) Describe your emotional state right now.
6) There were Three Stooges. Name the capital of Latvia.

1. Trust in what way? If you mean trust to be town' yeah, me. If you mean 'trust to play the way I expect...like maybe asking derp questions' yeah, I've got some of those too.
2.
3. Vig.
4.
5.
6.

That's less useful stuff than last time, I don't like the ratio.

You should vote Slysly.

[Thor665]

Sorry, I shudder in "shear" horror at the idea of sheeping.

Why, you have a better scum read?
Because if you don't - what's it matter?

[Thor665]

@Thor: Still waiting for an asnwer to my question from post 14.

You are, aren't you?
You remain a town read - when someone makes a case on you maybe I'll bother to explain it, but I wasn't aware I needed to convince you that you were town.

@SlySly: No vote? Not even a random one? Why not?

More importantly no reaction to the serious votes on him.
It's because he's scum.

[Thor665]

Naming town reads and saying why early on is also extremely anti-town.

I'm game for lynching this guy now too.

[Thor665]

@Thor: You don't need to convince me I'm town, I already know that. You need to convince me that you are. Well, not actually need, but if you are, it would be better.

You have my play, my votes, and my response to this request.

But you need me to spell out why I got a town read of you in order to get a read on me? Nah - just presume I faked it and move forward.

[Thor665]

@Thor, how were you out of RVS when you were voting someone that hadn't posted yet at that stage?

Because my vote was for a serious reason.

Wanna help me lynch qwint? He's scum.

[Thor665]

@Calcifer - if you don't agree with them, why let half your head post them? That's gakked up and is not a happy situation for dealing with a hydra. Thoughts?

[Thor665]

I'll sheep Kimor's case.

Unvote: SlySly
Vote: Qwints

[Thor665]

Any mafia experience?

[Thor665]

Unvote

for now. Your answers are acceptable, I think...

Fascinatingly - his answers make me want to lynch him more.

What serious reason was that?

Sheeping a town read to increase my statistical chances of hitting scum.

Good God, you really are too good, aren't you?

Actually it was because I was at work and only had time for a cursory glance through things.

1. A lot of people say that.

2. Step one, mock the scum tell. Step two, deny that, even though it's a dumb scum tell, you ever committed it.

Yeah, you are scum.

The purpose of RQS isn't to get answers to the questions, it is to get reactions.

I am angered because due to [ongoing] I can't react to you the way I wish to.
You can be a third scumread because of that.

[Thor665]

@Shotty - why aren't you being pro-town and sheeping me?

[Thor665]

Why is sheeping you pro town again? You have Best Mafia Performance on you.

Thank you for pointing out how I'm good at the game.
What was the confusion about sheeping me again?

[Thor665]

P-Edit: Err, best MAFIA?? I don't want to blindly follow you. I want to catch people myself.

Is your actual argument that I am not good at scumhunting?
Seriously?

[Thor665]

Yeah, it's almost as though I know how town plays and what town should look like.

Can't imagine that will possible help me in finding scum.

And if he's that freaked out by it he is voting the wrong player.

[Thor665]

No, I think you are really great player and all, but y'know I don't actually Smurf like you think I do as to blindly sheep you on page 5?
I hope you don't underestimate me so much as to just plain sheep you for no reason.
And yes, what Mitillos said as well.

Eh - come up with the list of people I don't think should sheep me before getting offended with what you think my opinion of your relative skill level is.

Do you have a town read on either SlySly or Qwints?

[Thor665]

@SlySly - I will continue doing that, if you find it scummy vote me.

[Thor665]

Unvote: Qwints
Vote: SlySly

[Thor665]

@Thor

: Why leave your vote on qwints out of your 3 scumreads, especially since there's already a smallish kimor wagon?

Because now it's on SlySly - also, the Kimor read is lesser to the other two to such a degree that I am pursuing those in strong preference.

How do you feel about drms' vote out of OMGUS? How do you feel about Ansar's borderline-illegible posts?

I find OMGUS one of the dumber scumtells in existence - ignoring that, it's a fine vote except for the lack of sheeping and that Pheonix otherwise looks townish.
Ansar reads slightly town currently, I don't find his comments illegible at all.

[Thor665]

Nope - it's the derp logic policy lynch train.

I like active players if they're not derp.

[Thor665]

@Thor: How does DP look townish, with his grand total of one post

I like early aggression.

In unrelated news - Kimor is definitely climbing the 'needs death soon' charts.

[Thor665]

@Mitillos - no, he doesn't. Or, rather, if he did you should have been voting me for getting an equally quick read on you. If it's scummy I've been doing it a lot - derp.

@Shotty - ignoring useless RQS is pro-town, fyi.

[Thor665]

@Shotty - ignoring useless RQS is pro-town, fyi.

I've seen people choosing to ignore them, but can you explain why this is so?
I like RQS. They are fun.

Fun doesn't equate to good for scumhunting.
Generally they are a clog of derp qustions with derp answers that mean nothing and leave me reading eight reply posts that fill a page with meaningless - then someone gets bent out of shape by a derp answer/question (like Latvia, or someone wanting to play a cop) and then...hey, look, it's a random vote, huzzah, that totally sped things up!

@Thor: It's not scummy on its own. You seem to do that a lot anyway (in your other games). It's just something to keep in mind in case your behaviour is scummy later, as additional evidence. Which makes it a good point, though not necessarily a good vote.

Thor does this in other games.
A lot.
We should keep it in mind because it is telling of his alignment.

Something is messed up in that flow, either you are derpy or I totally missed what you said.
Halp!

[Thor665]

@Thor: It's something you do a lot, irrespective of alignment. This means it cannot be used on its own to determine your alignment. But, if there are other, more serious reasons to suspect that you are scum, this should also be taken as an additional indication. Just because it's not

necessarily

a scumtell in your case, this doesn't mean it stops being a potential scumtell.

[Thor665]

Look, what I am saying is that this behaviour can be scummy. In your case it's not meta-scummy and it can be town as well. We shouldn't ignore it just because it's what you always do.

[Thor665]

Unvote: SlySly
Vote: Kimor

[Thor665]

I'd like to have someone claim intent to hammer prior to claim request.

[Thor665]

What is up with this wagon, his qwints vote was stupid but how is he scum?

You have a solid town read on him?

I'd love to tell you my case, but it's annoyingly unable to be discussed currently. I'll mostly put it as meta and beard.
I'll also say that a lot of his own votes seem, how would you say, mad Smurfy tone/reasoning?

[Thor665]

I did mention it earlier - what of it?

How is SlySly scummy and not just obnoxious?

[Thor665]

Ah, so you did, I missed it somehow. But why did you sheep his case in #74? And why did you wait until #221 to vote him - what pushed you enough to switch your vote there?

Considering I made the comment about him in 113 I would think my reaction in 74 not taking that into account ought to be able to be puzzled out by you with no help from me. Let me know if it isn't.
I waited a while to see if other things felt off as well, as currently he and a top scumread of mine were tearing into each other leaving me less sure of my feelings.

SlySly has admitted to no being away from the game, so...?

[Thor665]

The way his votes moved, didn't feel like scumhunting, felt like looking for a lynch.

SlySly has admitted to not being away from the game, so...?

[Thor665]

So it was his qwints vote after all? Is there some reason you couldn't have just said that and avoided all this tooth-pulling?

I didn't think it was tooth pulling, and there were other aspects beyond just the qwints vote.

So it was his qwints vote after all? Is there some reason you couldn't have just said that and avoided all this tooth-pulling?

Not sure what you're talking about regarding SlySly - apart from an 8p micro, where he was town, he hasn't played on the site since April. Nor can I find the comment you're referring to.[/quote]
Hurm, he didn't glom onto that though and ignored it...

Okay, SlySly can be obv. town now.
Shamrock is boring.
We should lynch Kimor.

[Thor665]

You guys look like Hasidic diamond merchants

Dragon Phoenix is slightly more likely town (or at least not derp scum...like Kimor - sorry Kimor, it's true).
Though I'm not sure how I feel about how DP phrased that. Meh, whatevs, can't ask about it without blowing the point of the question in any case.

Shamrock is boring because I felt no need to continue the conversation with him since I feel I got a finger on his alignment. We all know that he's dodging, I already said as much to him.

[Thor665]

I can at least grok my death now.

[Thor665]

"Thor will probably prove to be the most relevant threat, but if we can establish a strong wagon early on, he probably won't derail us. Thor can't resist a good wagon, even if it's on town. "
- Nacho

Well... I...I'm trying to get help.

Also (and, yeah, this is an ego toot) but I have to say considering how Day 1 played out, this was really funny as an exchange;
"I think that Thor is a bit overrated; he has a massive ego, and that can be used against him. "
- Kimor

And anyone who thinks Thor's massive ego can be used against him is themselves arrogant, because people with experience dealing with him know that he's not overrated and can't be exploited, not long-term, anyway.
- Mastin



I love ya too you blue goofball.
Sorry about lynching Kimor on you though. And by 'sorry' I mean 'neener-neener'
I do actually think I'm overrated though - apparently I need to catch scum Day 1 and look obvious town by like post 10 or something or nowadays I'm a top scumspect. I can't even grok it anymore.