Street Racers: New York (Game over!)

[killerjester]

Hi, I'll be reading n stuff

[killerjester]

Sixx

- I can't seem to find someone's point of him deflecting, however Sixx claims to be primarily townhunting over scumhunting but has provided lists for neither.

TML

- Definite town. Played with him in Mini 1394 and his scumhunting style matches up pretty damn well. I'm bothered by how Nacho has him down as a scumread without any stated reason. Doesn't even mention him specifically in his posts, just kind of slips him into the Fake ID list. Nacho?

oger Thornhill

- Slight town, albeit newbtown.

Parama

- Slight town, genuine scumhunting in his earlier posts. Needs to explain himself more in other posts, like his Apple and Bird reads.

PMysterious

- The definition of IIoA, so slight scum

Epic AJ

- I like him. He's town. I can follow his thought process easily and all of it makes sense.

Robert2424

- Terrible, terrible push on TML. Doesn't explain his scumread on camo. This guy is scum.

That's all I got so far. Might go back and reread later.

VOTE: Sixx but I'd also be sold on a Robert wagon

[killerjester]

Woops that'd be

Roger* Thornhill

as slight town.

[killerjester]

I think ewo2 site-flaked, so I won't bother trying to read into it.

[killerjester]

TML

- Definite town. Played with him in Mini 1394 and his scumhunting style matches up pretty damn well. I'm bothered by how Nacho has him down as a scumread without any stated reason. Doesn't even mention him specifically in his posts, just kind of slips him into the Fake ID list.

Nacho?

Pls Nacho, make yourself clear on TML. Is he meant to be on the Fake ID list? If so, why?

[killerjester]

ya holidays

[killerjester]

Figure out which train you think has the scumz all over it people. And vote the other, cause that person is town.

Wagon analysis is pretty weak when we don't have any flips. I prefer traditional scumhuntingzz.

[killerjester]

I've really never found myself wanting to call someone troll townie for active lurking.

If NJ is scum, Jal is almost certainly a buddy.

[killerjester]

Well from his own words he's adapted a "black hole strategy", or intentionally preventing players from getting a solid read on him (#470). He's admittedly sheeping the Sixx wagon, but hasn't pointed out why he feels the others on it have made it a good wagon aside from Darthe, whom he said was "smart" but read as "null" (#648). And he's implied that he hasn't been as engaged as he could be due to a lack on information (#768).

So yea, that's my definition of active lurking to coast into later day phases.

PEDIT: He reads as slight scum to me. Of the two, I prefer the Sixx wagon.

[killerjester]

I thought you were just sheeping Nacho with your Sixx vote. What makes Sixx scummier to you?

What made you think I was sheeping?

[killerjester]

Two things.

MOd, njoseph does not have 9 votes

. And Sixx needs omre votes.

I'll psot again when I'm sober. Promise.

[killerjester]

I don't like how he's withholding information, to any degree of insignificance, when he fully expects to be lynched today or killed overnight.

Sixx did you crumb JK at all?

[killerjester]

ckd why aren't you voting

[killerjester]

Sounds good to me

VOTE: thez

[killerjester]

why didnt you provide a case for Sixx if you really wanted me to vote? I mean a could have crumbled under the pressure and voted Ztife instead of Sixx...didnt you want me to vote who you thought was scum?

I wanted your honest vote. It's hard to read people if I'm just telling them to sheep me all game.

I AM A NEIGHBOR WITH BUMI AND SHE WAS CONSISTANTLY DETRACTING FROM THE SIXX LYNCH. LOOK AT THE ISO. BUMI IS SCUM.

Sorry the iso isn't blatantly obvious for me. Can you quote specific posts?

[killerjester]

Slysly is not even close to the best lynch today

I'd like to wagon jmj since I've had a negative read on his slot and he seems to be lurking the deadline out. Some of the people dancing around Ztife are bothering me with the role fishing. A wagon on Ztife should

not

be to pressure him into full-claiming. Either put your fist down and call him outright scum or shut up about it.

[killerjester]

EBWOP: yea w/e forgot this VOTE: jmj3000

[killerjester]

Lurkerscum is still scum

[killerjester]

There's no deadline yet, why is there a rush to vote?

Okay this is shit, I'm sorry for doubting you guys

VOTE: Ztife

[killerjester]

While I got you both here, can you elaborate on your TML reads. Mastin, which posts feel forced? Nacho, is it still basically his handling of the early thez wagon?

[killerjester]

Also, if you think ztife and sixx are on the same team, you're an idiot.

I know you're just worried I'll end up crying myself to sleep if he flips Scum B instead of Scum A, but I'm begging you to lynch him anyway.

I'll find some way to pull through, I can be strong for all of us.

[killerjester]

If you think he's a mafia doctor from a second scum group, why leave him alive?

I can think of a few. The opposing scumteam might want to kill him, saving us a lynch. A tracker, if there is one present, can presumably follow him to his scumbuddies. There's really not a huge drawback between lynching Ztife D1 and say... D3 or D4.

VOTE: jmj3000

Still no one interested in this guy?

[killerjester]

lurkerscum slot with a greater interest in self-preservation than scumhunting

[killerjester]

I noticed he was one of the few to move onto Ztife once Sixx claimed, and I have a greater town read on others (Thez) who shifted wagons as well when pressure got off of Sixx.

Wouldn't TML have to be on the Sixx wagon for this to be a strong point?

[killerjester]

Plus if this does happen to be multiple scum groups then a universal backup is more likely town.

This is the first time mafia have flipped blue in my playing history.

SC uses blue for multiball scum in his large themes.

Also this post is a prod-dodge, catching up tomorrow.

[killerjester]

in other news, this is why I was/am voting KJ...it might be an "old" reason, but it is still a good one. one that he also never addressed and completely ignored...but that seems to be a common theme in this game.

This is not remotely true.

[killerjester]

Oh lawl.

A. I can't believe that Ztife thought it important to claim fast-as-an-ambulance flavor but neglected to mention his "first aid tool box" flavor until asked for his mods.
B. There are no mods.

VOTE: Ztife

[killerjester]

Nacho. You can't read me very well, can you? I'm town. Like I was in Amrun's game.

[killerjester]

please don't pull this with me
all of the votes you have made have sucked
you've made no effort to provide anything worthwhile to the game
why?

Although I do have trouble with large games in general, they're certainly more demanding than the slew of Mini's I've played, you're incredibly deluded if you think I haven't made an effort this game.

[killerjester]

okay great, you said it wasnt true, next step would have been to post where you addressed it. Or is it just easier to say it isn’t true. If it is not true, 1 of 2 things is happening, I either missed it. Or I am deliberately lying. Wouldnt you want to “clear” your name either way and maybe find out if I was lying or what?

I actually wanted to see if you would either go back and reread what you missed, or redact what you clearly knew to be a lie. By doing neither of the aforementioned, you show a lack of proactivity. Not very indicative of scumhunting. Showing you the precise post would've defeated the reaction test.

For your convenience.

why didnt you provide a case for Sixx if you really wanted me to vote? I mean a could have crumbled under the pressure and voted Ztife instead of Sixx...didnt you want me to vote who you thought was scum?

I wanted your honest vote. It's hard to read people if I'm just telling them to sheep me all game.

[killerjester]

so you are saying you deliberately didnt quote the post for a reaction test? now I called you out and asked for the post what does said reaction test tell you? scum or town? was I lying or lazy?

I already pointed out what the reaction test told me. Lack of proactivity. Apathetic towards scumhunting. Many players jump at the chance to prove their scumreads wrong. Not you. Instead of seizing the initiative, you find yourself far too comfortable with waiting around and responding to things others say.

now you are saying you wanted my honest vote. I clearly said I had not read anything...so how were you to get an "honest" vote out of me when I was asking for people's cases..

try again.

Gee wiz Sherlock, I guess by not spoon feeding you cases at the very least you'd have to pretend to scumhunt or pray for the end to come quickly. I've never played by asking players to blindly sheep my reads, and I never will. It's impossible to get reads that way.

[killerjester]

[everything he said]

You

did

say that you hadn't read. You

did

ask for cases. But you

didn't

say that you planned on doing nothing until you got cases. So yes, while you had done fuck all after replacing in I hadn't expected the behavior to continue. That's why I asked you to make a, presumably educated, vote. Reading and all.

Is your argument really that I was secretly hoping you'd join the Ztife wagon? Didn't you

literally

just vote for Ztife? So I'm scum because I wanted you to vote Ztife-scum over Sixx-scum?

lol

[killerjester]

On the off-chance that I find 0 time to post in the next week while travelling,

V/LA til the 23rd