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no, I'm leaning a little townish on svenskt.In post 44, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Too preoccupied with fabricating the fakeclaim.
Gut read on sven?
Pedit: Oh. >.>
Pedit: let me post
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no, I'm leaning a little townish on svenskt.In post 44, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Too preoccupied with fabricating the fakeclaim.
Gut read on sven?
Pedit: Oh. >.>
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If he's scum, I doubt my town read will last. If he's town it may not last. I helped get him lynched in a recent game after townreading him earlier. worst town game I've played in a long time.In post 57, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Fery always townreads me and avoids RVS so I'm not getting anything out of her. However, if Sven ever does flip scum on a town-read from Fery, I'm looking at a lynch going that direction. I respect you too much as a town-player.
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Reminds me. Why no negotiation with buldermar this game?In post 112, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Cabd's town as fuck, GiF is town as fuck, you're town as fuck, I can't lynch buldey on Day 1 because he is so great but ffery's posts will tell me their alignment.In post 105, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Nacho your recent actions are weird why'd you vote sven
MS is a boring vote.
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Now I'm not sure if you were disrespecting my town game or my scum game in Donner Party. Would feel pretty insulted if I hadn't earned it.In post 160, Svenskt Stål wrote:and i know ffer well enough to not go inst town and disrespecting her scum game.
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Link to the start of day 2 http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p4872611In post 217, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Can you link me to borkgame, please?In post 214, ² wrote:orcinus, re svenskt I'm reminded of borkgame day 2 pretty forcefully. your thoughts?
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Selkies = orcinus + fferyllt
do you want cliff notes?
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dummy. your "cracking" is reminding me of town-svenskt in that game.In post 216, Svenskt Stål wrote:
you went back on me before that, why was that?In post 214, ² wrote:orcinus, re svenskt I'm reminded of borkgame day 2 pretty forcefully. your thoughts?
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Majiffy sledged the hell out of svenskt on day 2. I had a town read on svenskt, and didn't back him up strongly through most of that. I thought him refuting Majiffy's interpretation of some of his posts would be a hell of a lot more powerful than it going through the filter of my interpretation. He role claimed kinda early and replaced out.In post 226, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Yes please!In post 222, ² wrote:do you want cliff notes?
I'm still going to read it, though.
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Had to do with how you were replying to Nacho at that point in the thread. Tone, mostly. Also that you're claiming to scum-read me, when you townread me in our last game with very few fferyllt-town-like posts to base that judgment on. Usually I tend to take scum-reads as a sign of healthy town paranoia. My current calibration suggested that something is off here.In post 229, Svenskt Stål wrote:
i know that. i am saying that you are scummy anyway and i want to know why you went back on your town read on me.In post 225, ² wrote:
dummy. your "cracking" is reminding me of town-svenskt in that game.In post 216, Svenskt Stål wrote:
you went back on me before that, why was that?In post 214, ² wrote:orcinus, re svenskt I'm reminded of borkgame day 2 pretty forcefully. your thoughts?
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this shit is probably your own damn mixed signals.In post 242, Svenskt Stål wrote:
yeah you are, wtf is this shitIn post 240, ² wrote:
Had to do with how you were replying to Nacho at that point in the thread. Tone, mostly. Also that you're claiming to scum-read me, when you townread me in our last game with very few fferyllt-town-like posts to base that judgment on. Usually I tend to take scum-reads as a sign of healthy town paranoia. My current calibration suggested that something is off here.In post 229, Svenskt Stål wrote:
i know that. i am saying that you are scummy anyway and i want to know why you went back on your town read on me.In post 225, ² wrote:
dummy. your "cracking" is reminding me of town-svenskt in that game.In post 216, Svenskt Stål wrote:
you went back on me before that, why was that?In post 214, ² wrote:orcinus, re svenskt I'm reminded of borkgame day 2 pretty forcefully. your thoughts?
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yep.In post 270, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:hi guys!
reading the thread now. I had forgotten that majiffy even signed us up for this game.
In post 26, Nachomamma8 wrote:Why would a miller ever be killed?
nacho and orc are townIn post 27, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Why the actual fuck would scum NK a miller?
that was my reaction
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I did. I'm still thinking about it. I can see your points, but the experiental meta - living that game in real time - left some strong impressions. orcinus and I spent the entire game up until svenskt's replace-out with an extremely conflicted, impossible to reconcile read on him.In post 274, Nachomamma8 wrote:Did you read my commentary on the bork game?
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I've never seen scum get to endgame with a miller fake claim. there's a Romanian bicyclist we both know who I've seen gambit with a miller claim as scum. But we were so onto his gambiting that any non-pressured day 1 claim led to summary lynches back then.In post 276, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:fery can you?
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What the fuck is 2 even supposed to mean? Do you think you're likely to be nk'ed now that you've claimed to be a Miller? Why?In post 25, Svenskt Stål wrote:yeah i aint kidding. i am miller.
which also makes it impossible for me to be scum since i would have to explain down the road why i am not dead.
so... my scum plan must then involve the following
1. claim miller, hope people buy it
2. if people buy it, hope they dont question why i dont get nk´ed.
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What's the point of this?
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How would you limit yourself in terms of "lifespan" by fake-claiming miller as scum?In post 39, Svenskt Stål wrote:
now your are planting words.In post 34, Nachomamma8 wrote:
You don't like being pushed against a wall? You claimed miller and then claimed that you would never fakeclaim miller because then you would have to explain why you were alive or some shit. You shouldn't be surprised at this at all.In post 32, Svenskt Stål wrote:sit down and take it slowly, i dont like being pushed against a wall.
i never said i wouldnt, but its true, i would not.
your reactions are kinda expected but if you look objectively why would i do this as scum? in my eyes i have then limited myself in terms of "lifespan".
But i get what you are saying, all my logic can be used as scum as well.
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Why did you see him as town at this moment?In post 45, GuyInFreezer wrote:I also see Sven as town at this moment.
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Maybe because RVS push is the dumbest self-contradictory shit in this game?In post 57, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Let's talk about Metal Sonic. He hasn't replied to or even acknowledged my RVS push. Wonder why?
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He's obviously doing the opposite. Who would have guessed.In post 78, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Is that what you're doing?In post 76, Cabd wrote:If sven is town, mafia would be staying far away from this entire thing, IMO. Let us whip ourselves into a frenzy while they sit back and pop popcorn.
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This looks town to me.In post 80, Svenskt Stål wrote:In post 73, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Although I have to admit, if Sven is scum he's playing this beautifully with the thought narration and inner monologue and stuff.
see now i wish i was scum.
how would you have played it thou? wouldnt you have hated if you started getting attached to the game and someone investigates you and you will try to explain? i really did not want that. would you have been quiet?
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Hey lookz... bingo, jackpot, I nailed it. Now what do I win?In post 82, Cabd wrote:
Oh wow, Nacho, you've got me. I''m sitting back and taking no sides on this, I definitely didn't already vote for sven and voice an opinion.In post 78, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Is that what you're doing?In post 76, Cabd wrote:If sven is town, mafia would be staying far away from this entire thing, IMO. Let us whip ourselves into a frenzy while they sit back and pop popcorn.
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You guys are retarded for putting RVS and pressure in the same sentence.In post 90, Cabd wrote:Metalsonic also seemed to deflect any RVS pressure, so I'd peg him as scum if sven was town.
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^^ prolly town.In post 100, GuyInFreezer wrote:
Elaborate on this plz.In post 99, TiphaineDeath wrote:Huh, interesting.
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I generally don't fight when I'm hydraing. my partners do plenty of fighting without me adding to it.In post 307, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:fery and I are probably going to fight
if I'm following your trajectory, I don't think my svenskt read is too far off yours atm, though it's not been a straight line from there to here for me.-
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This is pretty much how I feel currently - will read the remainder of this thread first, though.
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I hate it not because it's dodging but because it's extremely insulting to tell other people that they don't have a life just because they post more frequently or dedicate more time to the game.In post 108, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Oh okay. So sort of like Buld hating on people who use "I have a life" as a dodge-reason.
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I'm pretty sure steel is town. Firstly, this perfectly lines up with my thought. Secondly, if he was a scum making a miller gambit, I'd think he'd be more preoccupied contemplating what to do next and tunnel on self-meta stuff.In post 110, Svenskt Stål wrote:In post 69, Cabd wrote:
Pretty much my thoughts as well. Forcing it into Black or White is really bad when Gray exists. I've also seen plenty of wolves claim miller and make it to a win in endgame, sooo...In post 64, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
Nothing else really worth replying to in your post.In post 50, Svenskt Stål wrote:no its not. you weither buy that i am a miller, a cop cant prove it, so you cant really confirm my claim. and you are not getting what i am saying, if town , for some reason, decides to correctly clear player x, player x should be killed by scum,,, even if towns reasoning is wrong.
There's the absolute that you're forcing us into. You're making this a dichotomy in
A). All of town reads Sven scum. Sven lynched.
B). All of town reads Sven town. Sven making it to endgame is scummy.
Why are you not considering maybe
C). Town have differing reads on Sven. Sven is not lynched nor is investigated at night.
^^^HELLO SCUM SUCCESS^^^
Also I find using meta to justify the likelihood of a miller fakeclaim frankly stupid.
VOTE: sven
here it is.
i dont like it because he is rewording orc´s thoughts just because, or so it feels to me. and i never said gray didnt exist, i just assumed that i would either be lynched or nk and not live to long.
This is odd aswell and just feels like he is getting a chance to "put himself" inside town and distancing from threat.In post 76, Cabd wrote:If sven is town,from this entire thing, IMO.mafia would be staying far awayinto a frenzy while they sit back and pop popcorn.Let us whip ourselves
it lacks natural flow... cant precise it more then that
VOTE: cabd
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How is Cabd town as fuck?In post 112, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Cabd's town as fuck, GiF is town as fuck, you're town as fuck, I can't lynch buldeyIn post 105, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Nacho your recent actions are weird why'd you vote svenon Day 1because he is so great but ffery's posts will tell me their alignment.
MS is a boring vote.
Sven isn't towning hard enough for me yet.
Also fixed your post.
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When was the last time you got me lynched on day 1?In post 120, Nachomamma8 wrote:
I was sorting hoping you two would roll scum this game and I could get you lynched D1.In post 115, ² wrote:
Reminds me. Why no negotiation with buldermar this game?In post 112, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Cabd's town as fuck, GiF is town as fuck, you're town as fuck, I can't lynch buldey on Day 1 because he is so great but ffery's posts will tell me their alignment.In post 105, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Nacho your recent actions are weird why'd you vote sven
MS is a boring vote.
Sven isn't towning hard enough for me yet.
Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case.
In fact, when was the last time you got me lynched? You like me as town and you know it.
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Was this the game with a perfect town win? I've heard stories and songs about it.In post 127, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Hell yeah. He just came off a game where I was his IC and we cleaned house pretty harshly, and his first instinct was to latch onto me a bit, figure out why I'm thinking what I'm thinking. I'd guess that he would be far more afraid of me as scum, maybe try to avoid me a bit; the way that he called us both town was also pretty genuine, with the "the aggression doesn't make them town but I think that the way things went down was pretty town" and all. He also has three townreads, which is more of a stance than most.In post 126, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
(Just in case it wasn't clear I sort of want you to explain this)In post 124, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:You see obvtown on him?
Btw, orc is probably town because f's usually right about him. We also agree that Nacho is likely town.
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How does one claim scum? I've tried several times unsuccesful.In post 129, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Can somebody just claim scum already this is getting ridiculous
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Why is Cabd town?In post 133, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:So
Nacho is town
Cabd is town
GiF is probably town
Fery is probably town, meaning Sven is also probably town
BRO is probably town
This is the second most depressing type of list there is, right behind all scum.
Maybe we should go policy rach or something.
What the fuck why am I not sleepy
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yep. that game. We will have words if you think BRO is scum.In post 331, ² wrote:
Was this the game with a perfect town win? I've heard stories and songs about it.In post 127, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Hell yeah. He just came off a game where I was his IC and we cleaned house pretty harshly, and his first instinct was to latch onto me a bit, figure out why I'm thinking what I'm thinking. I'd guess that he would be far more afraid of me as scum, maybe try to avoid me a bit; the way that he called us both town was also pretty genuine, with the "the aggression doesn't make them town but I think that the way things went down was pretty town" and all. He also has three townreads, which is more of a stance than most.In post 126, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:
(Just in case it wasn't clear I sort of want you to explain this)In post 124, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:You see obvtown on him?
Btw, orc is probably town because f's usually right about him. We also agree that Nacho is likely town.
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For someone who doesn't understand how fake-claiming miller as scum can be viable you surely have high thoughts of yourself.In post 147, Svenskt Stål wrote:ffer is right on me, that dont make her town.
she is just sucking up to the great svenskt until i decide that she isnt.
nacho wtf are you talking about
i get the "fucking with town reads" but i am just saying that i dont get the ffer=town after so few posts and so early.
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This is true.In post 153, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:But I think if Fery's read is truly in development she doesn't like to voice them at all.
I mean, after calibration, "seems townish" is at least to me a decently solidified read
Unless someone in 2 wants to correct me
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I am buldermar - one of the two heads of this hydra. I will try to sign all of my posts like this:In post 169, Cabd wrote:Also, when you guys make references to plays not in the game by their nicknames it makes it hard to follow. Can somebody give me a cheat sheet of who is who here?
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So you decided to be worse?In post 196, Svenskt Stål wrote:
i just cant stand how bad you are.In post 189, Nachomamma8 wrote:kid, you crack quick.
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You'd be a pretty awful scum if it wasn't, don't you think?In post 220, Svenskt Stål wrote:
thats kinda objectively bad on your part... alomst all of the shit i have posted is kind of towny for me.In post 218, Nachomamma8 wrote:
This was the first post in this thread I didn't hate.In post 216, Svenskt Stål wrote:
you went back on me before that, why was that?In post 214, ² wrote:orcinus, re svenskt I'm reminded of borkgame day 2 pretty forcefully. your thoughts?
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I've been close to comment on literally every single post you've made because they have all been awful, but this probably beats the rest of them. I'm fine with a Tiphaine lynch as long as f doesn't oppose it.In post 278, TiphaineDeath wrote:My thought process here is pretty simple guys, I voted nacho because he felt opportunistic springing on something I'd never seen happen before, but have seen scum try to get a lynch out of. He proved me wrong, so I unvoted. Now I am going to revote because of the wifom shitstorm that sven has created.
vote sven
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Good, I'm not the only one.In post 290, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
I don't understand your cabd town readIn post 112, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Cabd's town as fuck, GiF is town as fuck, you're town as fuck, I can't lynch buldey on Day 1 because he is so great but ffery's posts will tell me their alignment.In post 105, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Nacho your recent actions are weird why'd you vote sven
MS is a boring vote.
Sven isn't towning hard enough for me yet.
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Fairly sure you didn't or I would have noticed.In post 292, Nachomamma8 wrote:
I think I explained it earlier.In post 290, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:I don't understand your cabd town read
If I didn't, you can explain that Sven townread first!
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I did do it once. It was a long time ago, and I swore never to do it again.
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You're also an outed power role for no good reason. I'm pretty sure you couldn't do much worse even if you tried.
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