Calvin & Hobbes Mafia-Game Over!!!

[Untrod Tripod]

That would be 30 minutes from now

[Untrod Tripod]

I think that Gnome-it-all has made what I hope will be an illegal rule
A good idea, that is(how ironic)
My idea is that when someone makes an impossible rule, they must speak for the rest of the day in song (rhyming) form.
However, two occurances of an illegal rule will limit their posts to six a day.
Ouch; Three occurances of an illegal rule result in the person not being allowed to post all day.
Banishing is not far from my mind, but hopefully, it won't happen four times, but if it does.... YOU BECOME HOBBES FOOD!
Betray my rule at your peril!
Erego, Gnome must speak in song today, if my rule is passed.
Some people just never learn...

[Untrod Tripod]

So Zoneace must abide to my rule now?

[Untrod Tripod]

I was trying to prevent people from making ridiculous rules, like Mr Gnome It All did.
I'm suspicious of him for making what I view as an anti-vig/anti-doc role. To tell the truth, the only person that it would not hurt would be an SK.

vote Mr Gnome It All

[Untrod Tripod]

I have nothing against the removal of all of these ridiculous rules. They really are getting in the way

So you're for my illegal rules rule?

[Untrod Tripod]

Or maybe we should lynch you for being horrendously anti-town...

[Untrod Tripod]

I'm just going to have to go with my rule again, since I really do not like stupid rule ideas.

[Untrod Tripod]

As much as I would love to ban people who say "whee" or "weee" from the game, I can't.

I definitely stick with my original rule.

[Untrod Tripod]

Meh, I'd prefer if we just lynched him and got it over with. He's obviously anti-town.
Then again, he acts like that every game....
meh.... lynch the bastard

[Untrod Tripod]

Gnome, your rule makes life impossible for vigilantes. Mafia (and potentially sk's) now become unnightkillable.
I'm not even close to buying your defense.
My vote most definitely stays.
However, I consider that an illegal rule, it therefore would fall under my original rule which I would still like to keep in effect.
By the way, Gnome, nice try. But I don't think anyone really believes you. Especially considering that you didn't really try to defend yourself to begin with, but that you just went "ARGGH! I AM TOWN! BELIEVE ME!" Simply stunning....

[Untrod Tripod]

1. Who is mom?
2. (to He/she/itRestsInPeace) I'm pretty sure there is a vigilante.
3. I want to know if Gnome's rule is legal and if mordargo's rule is legal

[Untrod Tripod]

1. If you tell us who mom is, you have someone to vouch for you (provided that you aren't lying; if so, the real mom and dad come forward, and you get lynched and your partner is Tiger-food)
2. Using your rule, if you really ARE Dad and (blank) is mom, you can protect each other tonight.
3. I'm not really buying your claim anyway, but that's only because of your major anti-town behavior.
4. If it mattered so much, Mom probably would have already come out and vouched for you. I propose that we wait 24 (or more, it depends on what the rest of the town thinks) hours for Mom to come around and THEN we lynch him if we still think he's lying.

[Untrod Tripod]

Well, since this behavior isn't entirely out of the ordinary for MGIA,

unvote Mr Gnome It All

[Untrod Tripod]

Pressing mom for "no apparent reason"? He a last ditch role claim of being a mason after being blatantly anti town. Why shouldn't I want some more proof? And since people think I'm suspicious for thinking so, what's the point in pursuing it?

[Untrod Tripod]

in the above post, "mom" should be "Gnome"

[Untrod Tripod]

I was hoping it was obvious enough that people would notice. And now that the mafia knows who I am, unless I get doc protection, I'm toast.
Could that be done?

[Untrod Tripod]

Works for me.

[Untrod Tripod]

Regardless, I want doc protection tonight.
While we're at it, why don't we get a cop to confirm who Gnome and myself are?

[Untrod Tripod]

if anyone missed this the first time you read it...

I wrote:

I

think that Gnome-it-all has made what I hope will be an illegal rule

A

good idea, that is(how ironic)

M

y idea is that when someone makes an impossible rule, they must speak for the rest of the day in song (rhyming) form.

H

owever, two occurances of an illegal rule will limit their posts to six a day.

O

uch; Three occurances of an illegal rule result in the person not being allowed to post all day.

B

anishing is not far from my mind, but hopefully, it won't happen four times, but if it does.... YOU BECOME HOBBES FOOD!

B

etray my rule at your peril!

E

rego, Gnome must speak in song today, if my rule is passed.

S

ome people just never learn...

I was hoping that it'd be really obvious to people that I've played with before that that wasn't my posting style at all and that they'd look at that. Yeah, I did that early so that in a case such as this I would have an early indictation. I've made indications after that, but you can find those yourselves.

God makes a good point about not protecting Gnome, if he is lying, then how would we know if a doc protects him?
Let's have a doc protect me and Gnome can see if his role-blocking skills are true.
And hell, if any cops want to get on this (don't reveal yourselves now), I'm all for it.

[Untrod Tripod]

That's a little paranoid, En Pace, I believe mordargo and Gnome. Why don't we try to focus on revealing Dad right now?

[Untrod Tripod]

However, I want to test Gnome's role block ability, and I still want doc protection tonight.
So no doc protection on Gnome, he "blocks" my ability. If it gets blocked, so be it. This still does no ensure that the aliens(mafia) cannot block rather than kill.
Ahem, cops?

[Untrod Tripod]

Yeah, God is making a lot of sense.
I mean confirm dad, sorry to cause undue confusion.

[Untrod Tripod]

Uhh, Spaceman Spiff was predictable, Calvin Clone was not (I know the strips pretty well)

[Untrod Tripod]

Well since I entered that game towards the end as an evil snowman and was nightkilled that night.... no I didn't.

[Untrod Tripod]

Personally, I felt that mordargo had the town's interests in mind more than God when we were making plans as to what to do with Mr Gnome it All.

[Untrod Tripod]

I still think I should target Gnome tonight, to answer Coolbot's question.

[Untrod Tripod]

I'm going to have to think that, although other players have seemed anti-town, Korais made the biggest anti-town move with his no-lynch.

[Untrod Tripod]

I'm actually leaning towards God being scum.

vote God

[Untrod Tripod]

God's plan, in case it needed restating:

UT targets Gnome for a kill
Gnome targets UT for a block

I was thinking about this, and what is probably going to happen (since God is scum) is that Gnome blocks my action, mafia kills Gnome because God didn't want to give him doc protection.

Or, if the mafia can roleblock, they block Gnome's action, I kill him, mafia kills (???).
If they are confident on me not having doc protection, they would definitely try to kill me.

For further explination, I shall provide as many scenarios as I feel like coming up with that could happen if Gnome and I follow God's plan:

1. I go for Gnome, Gnome blocks my action, we both get doc protection, mafia goes for either of us. No one dies.

2. I go for Gnome, Gnome blocks my action, I don't get doc protection, mafia goes for me, vig dies.

3. I go for Gnome, Gnome blocks my action, he doesn't get doc protection, mafia goes for Gnome, he dies.

4. I go for Gnome, Gnome blocks my action, docs protect us, mafia goes for someone else. Anonymous Townie dies.

5. I go for Gnome, Gnome blocks my action, mafia blocks Gnome's action, I kill him. Valuble role-blocker dies.

6. I go for Gnome, Gnome blocks my action, no docs protect either Gnome or myself, mafia blocks Gnomes action and goes for me. Both of us die.

Yes, I am assuming that the mafia can roleblock. I feel that this is likely.

There are many more, but I'm entirely too lazy to come up with them. But I do know that none of them are good for the town.
God's plan has one good outcome and the rest are bad.
HE IS OBVIOUSLY SCUM, LYNCH THE BASTARD!

[Untrod Tripod]

modargo wrote:

UT tries to kill Gnome, Gnome blocks UT, doctors protect UT, nobody protects Gnome. Sure, it leaves Gnome open to death, but apparently nobody minds that.

God:
Well, since you don't mind a confirmed townie being confirmed as not having doc protection, why should I believe that you are a townie.

Is it just me, or does your plan leaves Gnome open to nightkill, which you will almost certainly make (as you are mafia). Wait, no, mordargo pointed it out too... apparently I'm not insane.

Sure you give me doc protection, but since you know that as I am the vig who will most certainly get that regardless of whether you give permission or not, why should I bother listening to your argument?

God wrote:

...and it says he was killed by the mafia, thus proving his roleblock ability and confirming Dad. Losing a mason, but it could be better than a random mafia target

So losing a random townie is somehow worse than a roleblocking mason? WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SMOKING?!

No comment, this is the giving both of you doc protection, which ruins the plan and is stupid.

And here you say that losing a townie is BETTER than losing a vig or a roleblocker. WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SMOKING?!

Let me say it one more time. If we give him doc protection his ability is NOT CONFIRMED. Good idea though, having a plan that in effect, at optimal results, DOES NOTHING.

True, but a cop could always check him tonight instead of wasting my nightkill and Gnome's roleblock.
GOD IS SCUM! LYNCH THE BASTARD!

[Untrod Tripod]

uhh, Coolbot, what the hell are you smoking?

Regarding UT's vig ability, I'm suddenly uncertain about it. After all, Hobbes may not be a pro-town player. In the comic strips, he's often working against Calvin in some way (e.g., pouncing Calvin when he comes in the door, sending fake Santa Clause letters to Calvin, etc.) Further, UT's sudden attitude change almost seems like a mafia who has gotten impatient with the town and wants to get the day over. Finally,

My vig ability is definitely not one-shot, in case anyone was (for some weird reason) confused about that.
Coolbot: Hobbes was always HELPING Calvin. (examples: Rosyln Chronicles, GROSS, Every single plan to annoy Suzie, plans for cheating in class, The Duplicator parts one and two, The Transmogrifier, Scuffles with Moe (when Hobbes chases him away), Evil Mutant Snow Goons, Calvin running away to Mars, Calvin running away to the Yukon, to name a few) QED

Point being that Hobbes is pro-town

[Untrod Tripod]

Yeah, since I'm Calvin's best (and might I add only) friend, I must be scum..... no....

Am I not allowed to change my mind about your idea? Apparently not, and changing my mind once apparently makes me scummy.
God = mafia scum

[Untrod Tripod]

And Korias, there are actually quite a few characters in C&H that never work against Calvin. They are Calvin's alter egos, Spaceman Spiff, Tracer Bullet, etc. Those role, along with Clavin himself, are the only ones I'm comfortable with ruling out as scum.

You're not comfortable saying that Hobbes is town. That makes no sense whatsoever, but since this has been pointed out, I'll just not even bother trying to reason with you.

UT, does that mean you aren't going to target Gnome. If that's the case, I think we'd better lynch Gnome. I, for one, think there's a pretty good chance that Mom & Dad might be evil. I would prefer to follow the plan, though.

Yeah, let's lynch non-confirmed role-blocking masons instead of mafia. Great plan, buddy. Methinks Coolbot might be an sk since he doesn't care about the town, but probably is not mafia.

[Untrod Tripod]

Ah, so you think he's mafia... my mistake. I was too caught up in the fact that he's a mason and that God is mafia.

[Untrod Tripod]

Yep, anti town people are all for lynching mafia!
Wait....

[Untrod Tripod]

Yeah, I'm obviously a deranged lunatic....

God: Roleclaim, and I might believe you.

[Untrod Tripod]

Modargo... that was idiotic....

My vote stays on God (as he is scum)

[Untrod Tripod]

CLASSIC mafia tactics?
I always thought that being against the town (like God) was the classic mafia tactic?
Speaking of which, being vocal is another divert-attention mafia tactic.

[Untrod Tripod]

Wow, ben whipped out the logic stick and beat God over the head with it.

[Untrod Tripod]

Ah, sorry guys. I have been exceptionally busy and I will be for the next week or so.
Last night, I was "given a bath" when I tried to kill God.

I'm only going to say this once: bow, you peasants!

Also,

vote Tigris

[Untrod Tripod]

Actually, the SK probably killed God.

[Untrod Tripod]

I do, vote for Tigris

[Untrod Tripod]

15 people... 8 to lynch... we have 5 votes.... roleclaim would probably be wise.

[Untrod Tripod]

Quote:
I have no problem with the town lynching me, with the caveat that people actually, oh I don't know, look for clues or something tomorrow.

Ok, let's do it then.

[Untrod Tripod]

7 votes.... uh oh...

[Untrod Tripod]

Probably good, because you're mafia.

[Untrod Tripod]

I didn't... choose... mathcam....

I definitely chose to nightkill Scalebane, and I have the pm to back it up.

Quoth me:
Scalebane dies tonight.

[Untrod Tripod]

That would be entirely illogical, ben.

Err, I don't know, Scalebane just seemed entirely too eager to distance himself from the mafiosos, but that was just a gut feeling. I don't have any real leads at this point.

[Untrod Tripod]

vote Zoneace

for trying to inflate his image.

It's far more likely that I am scum than Zoneace. Zone, you have done nothing but been illogical. I brought the original suspicion to the two lynched scum. Upon their lynching, it was revealed that they were teachers. How it that YOU revealed them when I am more responsible for them being lynched than you are?

[Untrod Tripod]

Thats why your PM didnt have that Info. It was only in the Calvin Clone PMs apparently. WHy that is im not sure, but all of the Calvin Clone PMs indicate teh teachers are aliens and that we need ot get rid of them.

I found your post in which you "revealed" that teachers were mafia.

Yeah, that's right, I'm scum. Would the real Hobbes please come forward then?

Wait, what's that? I AM Hobbes? The vig, you say?

You "revealed" that the teachers were scum? Excuse me for actually making an ounce of sense, but I'm going to go out on a logical limb here and say that the only way to REVEAL that the teachers are scum is by getting two of them killed. Although that doesn't actually PROVE that all of the teachers are scum.

Your entire argument, as far as I can tell, is that since you claimed Calvin Clone, you are obviously not lying and are townie.

{Correction, in my post of "It is far more logical that I am scum than Zoneace", the words "I" and "Zoneace" should be reversed}

[Untrod Tripod]

unvote Zoneace

There's no point in that, anymore.