Balto the Invitational - Game Over

[Gammagooey]

bluuuuuuuuuh di bluh di bluh

Vote:Nuwen

[Gammagooey]

I'm agreeing with too many things Nuwen is saying to keep voting her I guess

it is kiiinda possible that reck is just taking things too seriously though

so i'm gonna be super useless and vote this yaaaaay

Unvote, Vote:Axxle

[Gammagooey]

literally nothing he's said is actually an alignment tell but if you wanna go by lolgut he can be very slightly town.

[Gammagooey]

conspicuous is not a made up word that means scum reck

i do like that vote better than your other ones so far though so whatever

man cdb is stealing my words.

[Gammagooey]

especially not his bulletproof claim.

[Gammagooey]

Vote: Amrun

[Gammagooey]

to be fair a trollie vote is pretty reasonable after his last post

will consider for later but don't feel like doing it now

[Gammagooey]

fiiiiiiine matt

Unvote, Vote: Trollie

[Gammagooey]

matt why did you unvote trollie

if it involves the words 'actiondan' and 'claim' please make the explanation about 3 times as long as you would normally

[Gammagooey]

hey trollie why didn't you bother with the reads or votes until you made the list a few pages back?

[Gammagooey]

eh have a 'lol, vote' while I

ruminate

about junk.

Unvote, Vote: CES

p.s. sup guys who are posting a bunch

[Gammagooey]

heh heh heh
you guys are mad at mafia gamez

[Gammagooey]

pretty sure i'm just going to sheep nuwen onto axxle later unless something that is both interesting and not silly horseshit happens, going through the whole playerlist for the sake of doing it more likely to be scum than town imo and probably the best thing to actually go on for D1 junk

and yes this is pretty much exactly the same thing nuwen said except reworded a little

[Gammagooey]

well i guess if this is going on i can vote axxle now instead of later

WHANG

Unvote, Vote: Axxle

[Gammagooey]

like 80% serious question- triforce why do all of your posts that don't have the word buzz in them sound angry?

[Gammagooey]

that is only a 50% serious answer by wordcount I require the serious of the answer to match the seriousness of the question

i can reword stuff i guess

why do you think that ANGRY-POSTS will have a better chance of people listening to you then regular posts telling people that these are opinionz that I have. In regular games I can totally see it but this playerlist is pretttty competent most of the time.

[Gammagooey]

Probably because out of fucks to give. If it's going to take Axxle getting mislynched and Iece dying of mysterious causes to win everyone else over, so be it. But if we can avoid these shenanigans, that'd be ideal.

I feeel like you're doing what I do sometimes and noticed that a wagon's jumped on some dude for not-amazing reasons but then overlook that there's not actually anything pointing to said dude being town. Cause although I think this is actually pretty decent for Day 1 junk and has the bonus of probably not just being a personality-tell there isn't really SUPER SUBSTANTIAL there, but that plus literally no towntells whatsoever makes it pretty good IMO.

[Gammagooey]

shrug

[Gammagooey]

burden of proof in mafia is a bigger pile of horseshit than industrial grade fertilizer

also the thing is WHY go down a list in alphabetical order this early in the game instead of just commenting on who sticks out to you. I can totally see it later in the game but doing that this early seems a lot more like content for the sake of content instead of 'here are my opinions that you should lynch people with'

[Gammagooey]

@amrun- not strong enough to care about them right now. don't feel like specifying which way they're leaning.

why do you ask?

[Gammagooey]

bleep bloop over an hour with no axxle comments

[Gammagooey]

defense posts are boring

opinionz on other dudes are awesome

[Gammagooey]

dgb why do you make me paranoid every game i play with you

[Gammagooey]

like you're pretty clearly not actually reading very thoroughly here

armunnnn why do you have to ruin everything

[Gammagooey]

dgb why do you make me paranoid every game i play with you

Oh oh the "I'm soo0OOOO0O0O0Ooooo paranoid I can suspect anyone at anytime it's not my fault" scum tell.

man you don't actually think that's a scumtell do you dgb?
cause if I was dicking around in LYLO like that I could maaaaybe see it but saying its scummy this early seems pretty silly

[Gammagooey]

man you don't actually think that's a scumtell do you dgb?
cause if I was dicking around in LYLO like that I could maaaaybe see it but saying its scummy this early seems pretty silly

Rock-hard belief. Playing 'paranoid' will play great dividends for your scum game - and it's pointless as town.

but i have these feelings about you dgb

and i just

i just dont know what to do with them

~~
hey trollie whyz axxle town

[Gammagooey]

TheTrollie (2) - Grimmjow, ChannelDelibird, MattP
Axxle (9) - Fate, xRECKONERx, Iecerint, Nuwen, Beethoven, BBmolla, Gammagooey, DrippingGoofball

maths

you gonna get real dead soon son

[Gammagooey]

uuuh that was because dan said he wanted to lolhammer. which seems dumb because im preeetty sure i've said the same thing as town when waiting for lurkers to post before ending the game or some junk like that.

not voting right now because 5:45 in the morning because magicz. people being considered are bbmolla and iec but im pretty sure im forgetting about half of the game and also not actually looking at anything right now except the most recent 2-3 pages.

[Gammagooey]

yeah like triforce is in the game and i forgot that but at least what they'll be doing today will be interesting i guess

[Gammagooey]

Amrun is probably scum

Triforce is probably town

whydat

[Gammagooey]

i honestly can't tell if actiondan is being serious with the scum-context-thing post because it's just so completely wrong.

i'm just gonna do this for now because my only reason to not do this is that iec has a lot of posts and i think that that's unusual for iec-scum but also a silly reason to not vote him

Vote:Iecerint

[Gammagooey]

@bb-probably

also if you want a detailed read on a specific player from me to help read me i can do that but reading it will probably be entirely unsatisfying because i think too many things are minor towntells.

[Gammagooey]

hey fate you should vote someone that isn't actiondan

also the first person to call this buddying w/ dan gets a free imitation of themselves except with a higher-pitched much sillier voice because that is the appropriate response to things of that nature

[Gammagooey]

hey bb while you're around why do you think iec is town?

[Gammagooey]

i don't really i just want to hear more opinions on iec because i don't have a strong read on him

[Gammagooey]

feel pretty strongly that actiondan is saying things that make sense to him when he's saying them even though they wound up convoluted in the actual posts and also that saying those things isn't what scum-dan would be doing in this game

also liked trollie saying straight up that he didn't have any reads before the list he made but that's definitely still say-able as scum

also also i'm just gonna do this for a bit because iec-wagon isn't gonna happen without someone being CONFIDENT in it and i am not currently that dude
if someone who actually has a town read on him with reasons that i can read back and say 'oh i guess that does make sense' it'd be nice though

Unvote, Vote: Amrun

[Gammagooey]

Further also

@Mod: Prod CDB please

[Gammagooey]

reck at the very least slightly town because reck-scum generally cares less and angry smashes scummy things more

like could be faked but he gets points. several people have no points.

my secret plan is to wait until only one person has no points and then convince everyone to make them explode.

[Gammagooey]

Ugh. People should ask us questions we can look up and comment on. We've been fairly apathetic to this for the past few days so maybe this'll spark some inspiration/conversation.

Are you aware that your reck vote is super mediocre right now unless you actually put some effort into getting him lynched?

Can you be convinced to read over a moderate chunk of Amrun's iso in two different ways- one assuming the posts are coming from town-amrun and then other coming from scum-amrun and then sharing which of them seems more likely to be the case and/or which posts give you pause given one mindset or another? Alternatively, would you like to just look at her posts on axxle day 1 and tell me whether or not you think those posts are likely to come from scum?

Of the assembled lurker-tron 5000s which is/are most likely to be scum? you can use my definition of lurker which is 'everyone who has less posts than me' or just arbitrarily decide whoz lurkin' instead.

secret bonus question- why am i bothering to asking you these questions?

[Gammagooey]

heyyyyyyy guys you know who has minor towntells and some shit in his iso that it's definitely weird for scum to be saying?

hint: it's trollie

you know who's a better lynch than trollie?

answer: like probably 5 or so other people

[Gammagooey]

and so this isn't hurfaderr my opinions are better than your opinions i'll actually give details after work.

zug zug

[Gammagooey]

stillll technically after work

originally trollie read was for reads with ad commenting on how fucked he was instead of actually reading him as scum and trying to get him lynched but after looking at it more I could see that coming from scum given that it was based on the clusterfuck of stuff happening with AD and him at the time

Do still like trollie's posts on axxle day 1 though and his 748 admitting that his bb vote might be a mistake looks a little bit town.

Still don't want to lynch trollie right now.

~~~~
In other news Kublai's lurking went from 'fine whatever he'll be posting soon anyway' to actually pretty disgusting. Unless he's from outside the U.S. in which case he has like 5 hours before it makes that transition instead.

[Gammagooey]

man gimme a few more reads and maaaaaaaybe I can go from "he looks slightly town i guess and other people don't" to actually bothering to actually putting a bunch of effort into lynching someone that isn't you

[Gammagooey]

uh because kk's only post in four days is saying that he'd that he'd finally bother posting

yesterday

?

like how is that even a question. if you wanna argue whether or not the likelihood of scum for kk is less than the other champions of uselessness then sure do what you want but kk is clearly lurking worse than those other dudes in this game.

hello other posts

[Gammagooey]

oh hey nuwens iso doesn't have any mentions of amrun

nuwen can i interest you in sharing?

[Gammagooey]

@Reck-

feel pretty strongly that actiondan is saying things that make sense to him when he's saying them even though they wound up convoluted in the actual posts and also that saying those things isn't what scum-dan would be doing in this game

also liked trollie saying straight up that he didn't have any reads before the list he made but that's definitely still say-able as scum

also also i'm just gonna do this for a bit because iec-wagon isn't gonna happen without someone being CONFIDENT in it and i am not currently that dude
if someone who actually has a town read on him with reasons that i can read back and say 'oh i guess that does make sense' it'd be nice though
Unvote, Vote: Amrun

nope

[Gammagooey]

hey kk explain the nuwen read for me

also why do you think bb is coasting on a miller claim as opposed to everyone in the game just kind of shrugging at his play

[Gammagooey]

Though Nuwen may be right about the lazytown OMGUS thing. I don't know if you realize this, but I don't think I've ever played a full town game against you. I've either always been scum or you've replaced out. So that's why you get the extra paranoia treatment.

What? And you can't see Reckoner doing that as scum at all? Nuwen's case is IIoA and entirely metabased. Is her scum assessment of Reckoner correct then?

yes

[Gammagooey]

well I don't think he is obvtown so to me they are very germane

Except shes writing off Reck as town for not doing something he did in a scumgame once.

Thats not showing an interest in his alignment. Hint: she already knows hes town, shes just assessing his behavior in that light.

la la feeling the exact same way that nuwen does about reck for pretty much the same reasons la la la

[Gammagooey]

I could definitely do CDB.

I was actually thinking about trying for a flash wagon on Triforce instead later tonight since I keep waiting and waiting for them to do anything townish or bold and exciting readwise and it keeps not happening and they seemed pretty off day 1.

Wouldn't mind thoughts on which one would be better.

[Gammagooey]

ehhh that's probably good enough posting to let cdb live a single additional day assuming there's a better person to lynch

WHICH THERE IS!

my secret plan is to wait until only one person has no points and then convince everyone to make them explode.

SECRET PLAN ACTIVATE

Vote:Triforce

[Gammagooey]

look at dem triforce posts.

think about how OFF they feel in your heart of hearts. the odd angry tone day 1, the hyperdefense on axxle conjoined with the unrelenting convinced attack of another probtownie (reck imo) day 1, the inability to find ANYTHING scummy on amrun even when trying to work off the assumption she's scum, the silly poking of iec for voting someone who had attention on them super early day 1.

and then join me for the greatest fireworks this thread has ever seen.

[Gammagooey]

well wasn't really talking to you specifically but as long as you're here if you have a different opinion on triforce it'd be nice to hear it

[Gammagooey]

hey reck, triforce is the brand new cool topic for discussion and or lynching

how does this make you

feel

[Gammagooey]

heeey fate you should reread this post from triforce because the iec-attack at the bottom of it is scum horseshit. taking iec saying that he thinks the wagon is a theoretically ideal time to bus and going hyperaggressive because iec didn't have a scumread on anyone on the wagon is pretty bad.

[Gammagooey]

siiiigh at least the votes on him will hopefully make actiondan do things which will probably be town things and then actually interesting things can happen instead

[Gammagooey]

also triforce's post on iecrint saying people think i'm scummy and interpreting it to be therefore those people must be town because only town can think people are scummy and it is impossible for people to ever consider that their scum reads might be town and phrase sentences accordingly is bad but that's mostly just bad because i have a hard time seeing glork say that and mean it, singer might as town but i still feel that it's more likely to come from scum singer than town singer if that's who made the post because lololol they aren't bothering to sign any of them.

[Gammagooey]

@Reck-

feel pretty strongly that actiondan is saying things that make sense to him when he's saying them even though they wound up convoluted in the actual posts and also that saying those things isn't what scum-dan would be doing in this game

also liked trollie saying straight up that he didn't have any reads before the list he made but that's definitely still say-able as scum

also also i'm just gonna do this for a bit because iec-wagon isn't gonna happen without someone being CONFIDENT in it and i am not currently that dude
if someone who actually has a town read on him with reasons that i can read back and say 'oh i guess that does make sense' it'd be nice though
Unvote, Vote: Amrun

nope

Quoting Myself: The Game: The Movie: The Experience, coming to a theater near you

[Gammagooey]

also most of the stuff you think he's scummy for I think is just weird/bad play instead of actually making him more likely to be scum? him not doing a whole lot of scumhunting is admittedly pretty fair but all the claim stuff is just silly garbage and the wifom junk you're talking about to me just looks like going over the top to try and point out why following dgb onto him and/or other dudes is dumb.

personally i took my old mistakes of thinking a person couldn't possibly be town for doing a lot of dumb garbage to heart and try to ignore all the clusterfuck that happens sometimes with weird play unless there's a solid reason for it be because they're a given alignment.

[Gammagooey]

why is it worth caring about bb over triforce?

pretty sure this game isn't low-level enough for glork to just get to a certain day and then bam all the scum become obvious

[Gammagooey]

so i'm just gonna sit over here for a bit and wait for other people to post junk.

yeeeeep.

[Gammagooey]

WARNING: LOLWORDS. probably don't need to read it unless you're triforce.

@Gamma...do you realize that we're not "refusing" to see Amrun as town? We followed along with your semi-bullshit leading questions because we're not stubborn enough to think we're infallible (ok 2/3 of us aren't ), and had we asked you to do the same thing on anyone you read as town because of meta, you would had an equally hard time trying to convince yourself differently. It's bullshit to say "wow I can't believe they tried to see this person as scum [because I asked them to] and then didn't."

now, to be fair, asking you to read amrun from a different perspective is difficult and maybe it's harder for you to read her posts in a different mindset than it is for me. But you're pretty wrong about me not being able to do that on someone who I think is town. Pretty sure I could come up with about 2 paragraphs of why reck's play could potentially come from a scum mindset when i'm pretty sure that he's town just from comparing it to how he normally plays as scum, and I'd be surprised if I couldn't at least come up with SOMETHING for everyone in the game as to how their play could be coming from scum.

The point of that was to see if you'd come up with SOMETHING that you think was more likely to be coming from amrun-scum, even if you didn't think it was ultimately indicitive of her alignment given all her other play, and try to give serious consideration to her play being from either mindset and maybe point out posts that would/wouldn't make sense given those differing assumptions.

Like maybe my expectations were unrealistic there but I was hoping for thoughtful insight and reflection and got 'amrun did one thing that was maybe scummy except it's not scummy because meta'.

also, this post is too long and probably doesn't actually help anyone except triforce. my bad.

[Gammagooey]

What was the inconsistency?

Then immediately trying to control Day 2 talk by WIFOMing the NK choice.

you do realize he didn't start that right

other people started voting based on it and then he put tons o' effort into saying why they shouldn't be.

[Gammagooey]

What was the

purpose

of seeing if we could disagree with our natural read? Were you hoping to change our minds through this?

Another point: what would be our motivation for defending Amrun as scum?

you were complaining about things and wanted questions so I gave you questions that I was interested in the answer for and thought it would give you a chance to actually put effort into the game and become more readable

and to look town

[Gammagooey]

but aaaactiondan he claimed bulletproof har har hee hoo ha ha

also i'm probably gonna go into a pretty significant amount of detail after work about reads but i have time for a summary now

out of all the people who are actually possible to lynch today actiondan and nuwen are pretty much at the very bottom of the list of people I want dead. If it came between dan and someone i think is really obviously town then i'd probably do dan but im pretty sure thats not actually going to happen. nuwen you get details on after work.

beethoven is also at the bottom there but i don't think he has a chance of getting lynched today but just in case someone wants to try a flash wagon on him or something there ya go.

triforce I do need to reread their more recent stuff but from what I've gotten from them so far I really want them dead. I doubt this'll happen today either because deadline is getting close and if shenanigans happen with them (which they will regardless of their alignment) then it'll just be a clusterfuck that doesn't have a big chance of good things coming out of it.

kk looks a little town and axxle's post on frequency day 1 is pretty likely to be a real tell that exists so I'd rather not lynch him.

CDB lynch>CES lynch for reasons but i'm not actually confident in either of their alignments

I'd bet a moderate pile of money on one of the non-Kublai Khan voters on AD being scum and they're all pretty eurrrrrgh right now (fate, amrun, bbmolla)

but assuming that things keep going as they are now I'm probably going to have to settle for a Trollie vote. There are still the little minor things from him that look town but when I was originally going through his posts to defend him+actiondan a while back I noticed that a lot of the points I originally had for him could pretty easily be coming from scum too, hence why it turned into like 2 mentions of posts and gut in the actual post. His mentions of me aren't actually alignment relevant I think but they're pretty paranoia inducing and I don't think anyone who I want to get lynched more really has a chance of getting noosed today.


Am going to go through Triforce's more recent posts after work and see if there's anything in there that would be worth pushing harder or something that actually looks town but I doubt there'll be something either strong enough to convince other people to jump on or something new that couldn't real easily be coming from them as either alignment.

[Gammagooey]

actually the only people i'm going into more detail for after work are AD, Nuwen, and Triforce unless someone specifically wants more on someone else I think so that's probably less of a summary and more of just slightly less detailed opinions.

deal w/ words i guess

[Gammagooey]

This post starts with the flavor of "I'm gonna have a big pile of interesting reads, and Nuwen is smack-dap at the least interesting side of it depending upon your POV!" But then it looks like you basically don't really have strong reads on anyone and the main point of this post is that you will settle for lynching Trollie, but you kind of maybe think that people voting for AD are scum?

The nuwen and AD reads are for kinda weird reasons but I am pretty confident in them being town. I just don't actually have time to go into it while at work. the rest is fairly accurate with that exception except I don't really get what you mean with post flavor and nuwen being the least interesting.

[Gammagooey]

so I am now remembering that I am significantly less motivated to post things when I don't have to go back to work in a few minutes

so i'm going to pretend some things are super exciting for no reason and then bam posts just watch

NUWEN READ: pretty much waffled about her forever until the flash wagon mentions. She hasn't quite been up to what I'm used to seeing from Nuwen but her thinking has matched up a ton with mine this game and I think it's pretty significantly more likely that it's just that she's town and having the same thoughts I am than she's scum with a mindset so similar to mine. Also I don't think she'd bother mentioning what started the Axxle wagon as scum? Like it's a weird minor thing and if she was scum she would probably expect to get a pretty decent amount of flak and attention from it and I feel like she'd just ignore it instead.

Triforce still looks like scum and none of the questions/answers she's given recently are anything special except a lot of words that don't actually seem to be helping anyone get a read on anything ever and her recent scumlist having none of the two super lurkers on it (CDB and CES) even though she's poked at both of them seems weird to me.

ActionDan I actually think I explained pretty well earlier with the power of quoting myself so unless someone has something substantial against him they want me to poke at then i'm just gonna not bother for now

SUPER BONUS EXTRA: I was in Gay Mafia 2 with Trollie and when I was reading over stuff ActionDan said he was reminded of trollie's play there. It's not something that's real easy to take my word for but I thought trollie wasn't SUPER town until his claim against Matt that game but was definitely trying hard enough before that to be slightly town there day 1 whereas here he didn't look like he was trying at all until the reads list day 1.

GRAAAAA

Unvote, Vote:Trollie

Now I'm going to leave before I have to read any more of this Zdenek-related conversation clusterfuck because I think it may actually be the dumbest thing in this entire game so far.
jokez you guys. jokez.

[Gammagooey]

Beep boop.

vooooote: ActionDan

There is much to learn from this lynch, and with two and a half days left til deadline, I'm not interested in anything less.

Hold on, what the HELL is this.

You gave a list of FIVE people you were interested in lynching yesterday.
ActionDan wasn't on that list.

And now you're not only not interesting in 'anything less' whatever the hell that's supposed to mean but the vote accompanyment is THERE IS MUCH TO LEARN FROM THIS LYNCH.

[Gammagooey]

I fucking swear it's like you just thought to yourself 'oh deadline's getting closer it'll be scummy if i don't finally get off my ass and vote someone' and then decided to ignore literally everything else in the game and try to push a lynch through on meaningless garbage and then try to justify it with deadline horseshit later

[Gammagooey]

oh not to mention that you're just wrong about the deadline being in two and a half days too (it's 3 and a half) so that sure was a lot of thought and effort that went into a vote post that you've been delaying for almost a week now

i am actually mad at how disgusting that post is.

[Gammagooey]

no there have been plenty of posts that have sucked in this game

that post is the godamn holy grail of meaningless horseshit

oh i was going to post more about how awful that was but apparently reck thinks that I'm not actually the towniest person in this entire damn game which I might not be but I'm pretty damn close at this point and there's literally not a chance in hell of me getting lynched today.

[Gammagooey]

okay so i might just be pretty dumb sometimes, searched for AD and action and not just Dan and I should calm down a bit.

but seriously voting for information right now seems really bad to me. tri why do you think he's scum.

[Gammagooey]

Can anyone townreading Nuwen explain that to me?

iiiiiit's just a similar mindset thing. not really super explainable or point-out-able aside from that.

[Gammagooey]

heeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyy reck

can you reread actiondan and trollie for me
cause actiondan really does look pretty town and trollie kinda doesn't imo, at least in comparison.

and actiondan's recent comments just really don't feel scum motivated to me.
ah stop ninjas bad stop

[Gammagooey]

@Reck-oh yeah i can do a draft, accidently grabbed the wrong phone when I left for work today, myyyyy bad

[Gammagooey]

FATE trust in the gamma-gut

actiondan prooooobably town

don't keep up the hate-boner for him just because he thinks you're likely scum. and kk isn't actually town enough for actiondan voting him to be scummy. cause he looks kind of sort of a little town which combined with Axxle's minor tell on Frequency makes him pretty okay I guess but he definitely isn't on the top of townlists 'round here.

[Gammagooey]

Gamma your posts are so good lately.

yeah usually pretty good at saying words and bein' town as town

alternative answer:

GammAmazing

If you control-F Triforce's ISO for Nuwen, it becomes very clear that Triforce is scum.

I think I get what you're saying with that but it's gonna need some explaining if you want people to actually be assed to try to noose them.

[Gammagooey]

GAMMA

COME. ON.

YOU WERE DOING SO WELL

if you're town then sorry I guess but I couldn't get a Triforce wagon going fast enough and it just doesn't look like you're trying as hard as I've seen you do before as town. assuming you are town that's probably cause you're busy as shit but AD looks way townier than you do IMO and I don't think anyone else I actually want lynched has a serious chance of getting dead today.

[Gammagooey]

loud words counterwagon not voting words words loud words voting kublai khan words lurking words words

trollie isn't voting his counterwagon either
voting kk is pretty shrugs.
aaaand he's really not lurking. like he's been posting actual things and the posts about nuwen+amrun look more likely to be coming from a town mindset than a scum one in my opinion.

i mean if you don't want to lynch trollie either that's fair since he isn't really that scummy he's just lurking a ton and not doing much townstuffz and seems a little off compared to my opinion of him in gay mafia 2 but if its not action or trollie then we have to deal with trying to get probably 5 non-communers to switch to a wagon within two days (because we're all probably going to be around and pretty flexible with who we're voting except maybe reck)

[Gammagooey]

Please don't be moronic and jump the gun, we have plenty more time than scum rushing into a mislynch will make it seem

Well if you're thinking something like this can I interest you in a Triforce

Beep boop.

vooooote: ActionDan

There is much to learn from this lynch, and with two and a half days left til deadline, I'm not interested in anything less.

[Gammagooey]

so you'll claim to get try to get matt lynched in gay mafia but not to save your own ass with somewhere between 2 and 3 days left to deadline. You're actually deluding yourself if you think that you not being at L-1 yet makes a difference in your lynch chances here.

[Gammagooey]

i swear you guys.

I'm gonna try this
one more time. Pretend this is a link to daft punk because im too lazy to do it myself right now.

Unvote, Vote:Triforce

[Gammagooey]

heeeeeey fate
IF nuwen is scum
you know who would definitely be her buddy?

probably that hydra that keeps poking at her over and over again and then never actually gets around to voting nuwen until other people start a wagon on her

[Gammagooey]

i'd prefer triforce by a million margins. I'll seriously consider KK tomorrow if you give some decent words about him then.

[Gammagooey]

fate i'm not gonna help lynch nuwen today. MAYBE i could do it tomorrow but doing it today is silly and unnecessary and triforce is scum. I am going to spend about 80% of my dumb lunch break actually making a REAL SERIOUS EXISTING CASE on triforce and you fucks are going to read it and I'm not going to give up on it to lynch Nuwen of all fucks.

[Gammagooey]

also I'm pretty sure the only reason why triforce isn't getting noosed already is because of a lololol softclaim with an investigation result which is PRETTY WORSE than nuwen actually going ahead and claiming that she's a one-shot cop.
You don't have a town read on Triforce fate. Because nobody does except for horseshit silly reasons that don't actually make them town. which will be explained in CASE.

[Gammagooey]

fine make me do horseshit when i'm supposed to be working

'antaganostic' read is garbage because they were faking anger for no reason day 1. they faked a bunch of frustration that had no actual reason for existing and got real 'irritated' at meaningless horseshit because glork faking enough confidence and balls as scum is what he thinks is what will look like his town game and then suddenly all of their play changes day 2 and instead of faking anger because they REALIZED it was uneccessary and off for them they spend the entirety of day 2 poking around nuwen and doing godamn nothing until OH SHIZ DEADLINE BETTER VOTE NOW AND RUSH OTHER PEOPLE TO VOTE TOO

garbage garbage garbage garbage GARBAGE

[Gammagooey]

fate how did you think I was scum you clownfuck

[Gammagooey]

no, I make it seem like you dicked around and did nothing for 5 days while not voting Nuwen which is what you did even though apparently you've been scumreading her for forever and are ECSTATIC to vote her now that other people might get onto it but it's entirely too much work to be voting for a major scumread before all the wagons coalesce

[Gammagooey]

this game

[Gammagooey]

Oh yeah we're TOTALLY forgetting that CDB is as scummy as my nutsack hair.

Probably because he's obvtown.

the trollie wagon has completely exploded. you're the only one still on it.

granted i don't entirely understand why for a neighborizer claim but whatever it's a thing that happened

so you should probably vote someone else.

[Gammagooey]

uh also I probably wouldn't claim in that QT unless you're pretty sure Trollie is town too because if he's scum it wouldn't be super surprising if he could read the QT you guys have

this has been <rolespeculationhorseshit> live from raleigh, nc

[Gammagooey]

tri the answer that question is hella obvious

i mean i'll let amrun answer it herself but seriously here you left out the context clue that answers all of that from your question pretty intentionally

[Gammagooey]

nuwen will be around to revote when she realizes nobody else is actually going to lynch reck today

trollie i don't think has posted in thread since wagonsplosion so it's not really relevant for him like it is for CES

also scum PRs not actually very exciting. still other scum and etc. etc. I did miss the meant to play scummy thing I think so I'll take a look at that I guess.

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KK the amount of pages is because we are the godamn commune and we will post as we please

on a scale of 1 to not-at-all-related-to-people's-alignments it's the second thing.

[Gammagooey]

i don't have time for all your shiz KK

[Gammagooey]

i played shadow hunters with mina and faraday stop being a clownfuck trying to disprove something that's pretty clearly mod-given (yes it can be a mod-given fakeclaim if you think they're scum instead of a real claim) with lolololrolespeculation

[Gammagooey]

she didn't actually

shrugtastic is not a word that means scummy

la la la

[Gammagooey]

Glork and I feel like if Nuwen was town her wagon would've grown more quickly because scum could've easily been like "ok, we can lynch this investigative role, and when they flip town we can lynch the OTHER investigative role."

literally the exact same statement can apply to your wagon
also it's been like 4 hours or something retarded like that. who would have voted nuwen if they were scum with her or whatever your logic for that junk is.

[Gammagooey]

Remind me next time I'm scum to just bullshit some arbitrary claim and go "I have a strategic plan, give me more time!" because apparently that works nowadays.

Hey Triforce have a reminder

jk jk jk jk jk

Triforce needs to CONFIRM OR DENY the fucking counterclaim

idgaf now one of Nuwen or Triforce dies today

This is an accurate statement

[Gammagooey]

^wasn't that because of nuwen's breadcrumb that he thought was about fate

[Gammagooey]

i actually don't doubt that singer forgot about it.

but them trying to push a lynch based on 'that role might not exist/have been submitted' was real bad. they just saw that nuwen claimed and tried to make it look scummy based on role shenanigans instead of actually trying to evaluate the claim itself.

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I don't like teehee we are almost kind of but not really counterclaiming. No.

You don't have to like it, but let's not pretend this makes sense as a scum play. Town are often in this place where they want to share certain pieces of information but no more than that.

But see she was also attacking Nuwen for doing exactly that. It's pretty damn hypocritical.

[Gammagooey]

^no, that's actually a pretty legitimate question.

Why didn't you claim your role name after going berserk at Nuwen for not claiming hers?

[Gammagooey]

also i might as well share some probably silly paranoia while we're doing this

thought that it Tri+Nuwen might be scum together and Nuwen stole Tri's fakeclaim. Doesn't seem nearly as likely now that AD's claimed info on Nuwen's role probexisting though.

[Gammagooey]

I think your views here are valid, but I think the simplest interpretation is that Triforce and Nuwen are both town and investigative. Otherwise, we have to believe in an AD-Nuwen scumteam, and/or it will be dealt in the nightgame one way or the other if we are lucky.

Why are you discounting Triforce seeing an opportunity to softlclaim a result on you earlier today and taking it?

[Gammagooey]

well that's fairly hilarious

so how about this scum triforce lynch I'm workin' at here

[Gammagooey]

like i mean we could have more completely unecessary claims if that's what you guys want

but i've been pretty confident in this shiz for a pretty long while now and lynching scum seems pretty cool

and really I don't see how all you don't see Triforce as obvscum with how they've reacted to Nuwen earlier today and drastically changing their play at various points in the game and saying nuwen was scum for a bunch of things that they've gone on to do and etc. etc. I mean you do realize that scum will have fakeclaims and can softclaim stuff too right.

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also as a minor thing can i point out that 'i have nothing to hide' is a meaningless scum platitude that literally had no reason to be said and also that saying that and proceeding to not fullclaim is actually mindblowingly retarded in terms of words meaning the things they are defined to mean

[Gammagooey]

also also bbmolla you not voting anyone makes me sad because if you had actually bothered there is a legitimate chance that you wouldn't have had to claim with more momentum on triforce

[Gammagooey]

LOL HI

HOWZ ABOUT DAT CLAIM

[Gammagooey]

I also think Beethoven should be on the platter

no stop
stop it

we can think about beethoven and all the other generally town but maybe scum dudes in like 2 days
right now we're not even thinking about dealing with that shiz

[Gammagooey]

clearly they have to redo their claim now that they know an innocent child is in the game too

gotta invent some real good limits to balance out two investigative roles and that shiz

[Gammagooey]

Gamma, time to put your money where your mouth is.

you are really bad at using meaningless platitudes you know that right
like if i wasn't committing to your wagon THAT'S when you use put your money where your mouth is

[Gammagooey]

that second part is unecessary but whatever triforce will flip scum and we can all party or something

[Gammagooey]

and i'm telling you that saying doesn't mean what you apparently think it means?

like uh here
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/put ... e+mouth+is

[Gammagooey]

also can we make the trollie wagon go away now? like i personally still think he's about 10x more likely to be scum than actiondan but we seriously have 3 investigative roles and an innocent child claiming right now. let's condense some shit.

weeeee

VOTE: ActionDan

yeah!

[Gammagooey]

beethoven did you ever see singer play as scum?

because she despises it. and she does get very emotional and frustrated while playing as scum.

[Gammagooey]

beethoven did you ever see singer play as scum?

because she despises it. and she does get very emotional and frustrated while playing as scum.

also when you're wrong?

see ever other game I've been town in where you've been wrong about me as town

KTHX

the most recent one I remember was Mafia Behind the Maiden where I'm pretty sure I read you correctly most of the game but got pretty frustrated with you not actually trying for a ton of it? I don't actually remember us playing in many games together aside from that and the one forever ago I was scum in but I'm probably forgetting one, I can take a look.

[Gammagooey]

Okay. Personally I don't think lynching ActionDan over Triforce makes any sense at all. Sure you can think ActionDan's earlier play is scummy and that's a fine opinion to have I guess. But Triforce has refused to claim herself after making posts like the one below about Nuwen.


more about why that's scummy when i'm not about to be late for work I guess

Nuwen is not long for this world. Her play at this point is to buy time and be a distraction. We get a name from her, we get flavor, and we decide today if she's scum or not.

When did "lynch sketchy claims" become a bad thing? There is NOTHINF redeeming about Nuwen's claim except OHGAWDPOWERROLE.

[Gammagooey]

she's setting massively different standards for other players being scummy than she's following herself, she's refusing to do what she considers to be good play, actiondan is actually really town because something that should have been obvious to me earlier clicked for me while I was on my way to work so please don't quickhammer him or something stupid like that,

and given singer and nuwen's play around each other I actually think that Nuwen took the fakeclaim Triforce was setting up and decided to use it to get out of a lynch herself. Triforce poked around Nuwen for forever before actually acting on it, Nuwen never talked about triforce until reck had a read on her she could take, and I probably shouldn't have been greedy with trying to get triforce lynched first and then nuwen because nuwen claimed to have not used a one-shot cop yet so sorry about that, but if one is town it made more sense for it to be nuwen imo.

singer is one of the only players that I know of that does get incredibly emotional as scum and yes I know it looks like legitimate rage because I think it is. I acknowledge that I could be wrong here but I think that singer is legitimately that angry at trying to deal with this game.

And I'm pretty confident in triforce being scum yes. I am MORE confident than that in ActionDan being town. To the point where I'm asking right now, if you've seen me play in past games and a)think that I'm town here and b)think my opinions are worth even the TINIEST AMOUNT OF FUCKS given my play in those other games, don't vote ActionDan here. I'm VERY confident that he's town and I'm not some clown like Fate that fakes confidence about things like this for stupid mindgames. even with the trollie wagon I admitted I wasn't that confident in it while I was explaining to fate why he should get on the wagon and I try pretty hard to be open about how strong my reads are in situations like this so people can actually take my word for it.

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triforce you keep deliberately misrepresenting people's posts. there is an if in that sentence for a reason.

[Gammagooey]

triforce you keep deliberately misrepresenting people's posts. there is an if in that sentence for a reason.

Yeah but ANYBODY can misinterpret things and react poorly, not just scum. Have you been reading my posts at all Gamma?

there's a pretty clear difference between misreading posts and deliberately taking out words and then pretending that poking at the players making the statement is scumhunting.

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i've had a town read on beethoven for a while, if you think you could get a wagon on me right now you'd be literally insane, and really thing that I think you could make happen in this amount of time that I would actually tolerate would be a Nuwen lynch.

[Gammagooey]

fine i'll elaborate in like 45 minutes or so when i actually have time

[Gammagooey]

WE DON'T THINK YOU'RE SCUM.

WE WERE POINTING OUT THAT IT'S STUPID TO CALL US OUT FOR BEING "HYPOCRITICAL" ETC.

Like, you're so fucking confirmation biased right now we can't even handle it. At least we can admit our conf. bias with Amrun.

this has literally nothing to do with what I just said

[Gammagooey]

so i have a few minutes but not nearly as many as i'd hoped

beethoven read was i think mostly because he was really really confident about something and it looked pretty town

thought about stuff during lunch and triforce fakingclaiming the entire damn day makes all the hypocrisy make sense so if you fucks really think the fakeclaim is coming from town then i can maybe do another wagon. still not beethoven though.

oh jesus i just got ninjaed like 10 times

[Gammagooey]

beep beep boop not actually reading the thread right now

i'd sheep actiondan but I don't think Kublai Khan is actually going to be back before deadline
i'll probably maybe sort of have an opinion after work

[Gammagooey]

oh wait i have an opinion that's not super helpful but i'll share anyway

beet still pretty town

boop doop a boop

[Gammagooey]

i have actually been conf. town to like half the game for most of this game day already

i could not possibly care less about being conf. town this game

[Gammagooey]

i literally don't have time for all this horseshit for another 2 hours dan

i still think beet is town

this is not a suggestion of a quickwagon so please don't do it yet but how do you feel about CDB

[Gammagooey]

nuwen he already answered that and not everyone is going to think for 20 minutes and evaluate different ways to breadcrumb shit and etc etc

[Gammagooey]

day 1 was basically a quicklynch on axxle

i was a hider in one of dram's ridiculous games and missed crumbing at least one night in there for probably worse reasons, and then died because i hid behind scum without crumbing it but they died the same night so I shrugged about it.

Gamma storiessss

[Gammagooey]

nuwen remember how it's a jailkeep too
which prevents kills
which he explained
sigh

[Gammagooey]

well that'll probably be dissapointing
i could be wrong though! that'd be nice

now it's time to play nightkill roulette! which of the conf towns get to die tonight?!?!

whirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[Gammagooey]

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee