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Where's my Glen at? If you claim Glen now, I'll love you forever and give you total town points.
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I'm assuming the Mafia isn't immune to the Horde. Horde is like an unkillable third party. Mafia will probably be roles like the Governor and possibly Shane.In post 17, Majiffy wrote:I just realized that technically the zombie mechanic is a threat to the town, and as such, any strict interpretation of our wincon can only translate into Venmar's Troll-The-Town game.
Get in line. I'm sure there's a wait.In post 60, Majiffy wrote:I will policy lynch the shit out of you next day phase if that's the hammer.
Erm... no?In post 106, Majiffy wrote:Because I don't see scum that knows what they're doing trying something like that. If it were a scum move, it'd be a scum move by newbie scum that saw a more experienced scum pull off something similar before. MattP does not fall under this category.
In post 107, Sugar Cain wrote:Toggers goes tomorrow
Merle Dixon could be either Miller, Godfather, or Hated Townie type roles if he has a power. He's fairly antagonistic to the main group, but ends up doing the right thing and fighting for their side.In post 123, Majiffy wrote:I haven't seen the show past the exploding lab can anyone elaborate on if there's a second batch of humans that could be considered "scum"?
I've been known to be/do both.In post 127, Majiffy wrote:I'm not sure if you're deliberately misconstruing what I'm saying or if you're just fucking retarded.
I can be fairly antagonistic. But I read it one way and you are saying it's something else I guess. Could be lost in translation reading it since you think you are conveying it one way but I see it being delivered a different way.In post 149, Majiffy wrote:But do you do the former as town?
Is this a perspective slipIn post 146, Amrun wrote:Toogeloo gets to be town as well! For now, at least. I will probably get paranoid and mislynch him in endgame, though. Ha.
Yeah, I don't think Jiffy wants to explain this again after he just said I refarted all over it.In post 194, Jon Doe wrote:Because it couldn't possibly, you know, be the experienced scum who just pulled this shit off that this hypothetical newbscum comes along later to immolate.In post 106, Majiffy wrote:If it were a scum move, it'd be a scum move by newbie scum that saw a more experienced scum pull off something similar before.
VOTE: MAJIFFY
Or you could just vote him now and read the game during night phase, unless you'll be too busy in scum chat.
I was kinda getting the same impression.
Because Glenn and Maggie on the show is soooo~oooo cute.In post 627, No Brains Here wrote:Tell me this, Toogs, if you're not some third party bullshit, why do you care about Glenn?
Cuz there's no scum motivation either? You might be on to something with coaxing someone to claim their flavor though.... hmmm.In post 683, Jon Doe wrote:Looking at motivation here. I see no town motivation. I see exactly what he alluded to ~ gambit. It works to give him town cred while at the same time looking for (and finding?) a PR for NK. Claim yourself is fine, stupid IMO, but fine. Coaxing someone who could easily not be vanilla to do the same...nah. Why isn't this a hot topic?
It didn't earn you town points, if that's what you are referring to.In post 1294, MattP wrote:Behold, a 101 in flawed, linear thinking
A character that actually believes having a wrong read and pushing it to fruition is a generally scummy thing rather than trying to decipher whether I actually believed SK was scum
But see, you can't lynch someone with 3 votes alone, however, representing the vocal majority, it's easier to sway the lower post count players, especially those too lazy to read up.In post 1297, MattP wrote:And yet, you don't have to trust us. The purpose of what I did was because I think brains and sugar are town. Those are MY reads, and I want to work with them. You don't have to work with us.
What's going on here, sangres? In the same post, you say Elli and AD are scum together, but then later you say Elli is town.In post 1420, sangres wrote:Okay so first of all I'm guessing that Elli AND AD are scum. They would have more fun as scum together and I'm pretty sure they would've talked about the quickhammer gambit in thread instead of letting chesskid goad them into it after Elli already promised the quickhammer and AD declared intent to hammer.
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cos he's townIn post 1410, Toogeloo wrote:Why are people ignoring Ellibereth and his anti-town day 1 and lack of wild appearance today?
I feel like, with 20 players in the game, conversations have been saturated on like 4 of them. I nearly had an aneurysm reading 20 pages of John Doe or OGML are scum more votes pl0x posts.
Claiming ActionDan town, and considering Elli scum now but not wanting to vote him.In post 1437, sangres wrote:I won't vote RedCoyote, NBH, ActionDan, MattP, and Sugar Cain in that list meaning our pool is looking more like:
PV, mastin2, AJ, Ellibereth, GiF. Don't want to vote Ellibereth that much today but he has to do something soon. I'll talk it over with ffery later and get back to you with a nice healthy wagon.
The sooner you claim, the better, unless your plan is to just amass more votes and be lynched. Not claiming denies us information to work with that could potentially change the direction of the lynch. Consider your options at the moment, and play to your wincon, which if it's scum, continue not claiming I guess.In post 1688, Titus wrote:That's a Wayne Post. Why should I claim now? I can say what he would have said but I don't really feel like claiming ATM. I'm not going to claim solely because someone says I should.
This.In post 1997, No Brains Here wrote:I have been wondering if the "hey your target may not always get killed!" has something to do with a hidden mechanic
I meant a Traitor to the Mafia, as in He leaves the Mafia to join Town, which in this game DNE. I never said Shane was an SK. I said Shane could be a Hated Townie, a Miller, or a Godfather. I said if there was an SK, I would believe it to be Shane. I also said I thought the Majiffy kill was probably Mafia and the Trust Fund kill was probably SK, and explained my reasoning (using flavor) for that some time ago at the beginning of the day.In post 2026, No Brains Here wrote:that is exactly what I am saying.
you said earlier in the day round that the rifleshot was most likely the govner and the SK could be shane. are you backpedaling on that?
and merle wasn't just antagonistic he outright tried to kill them for the majority of the series. he beat the shit out of glen, fondled maggie, tried to rape and kill michonne. and you now want to change your mind after saying that merle was likely a SK to saying that he is now somehow town aligned. what changed your mind?
In post 2083, Toogeloo wrote:I never saidMerlewas an SK. I saidMerlecould be a Hated Townie, a Miller, or a Godfather. I said if there was an SK, I would believe it to be Shane. I also said I thought the Majiffy kill was probably Mafia and the Trust Fund kill was probably SK, and explained my reasoning (using flavor) for that some time ago at the beginning of the day.
I fixed it in the next post. Merle would not be a Serial Killer in my opinion, Shane would. Or at least, Shane would probably be some anti-town role, be it SK, Mafia, or Survivor. I had guessed Shane for Serial Killer before all the chaos of cross claims last night. If Shane is in the game, I'd wager he's Mafia or Survivor at this point, unless kills overlapped.In post 2101, No Brains Here wrote:so do you believe that shane is a possible SK yes or no? your statements contradict each other. :/
OGML has stated his shot penetrates hiding.In post 2106, No Brains Here wrote:why are you worried about being nked when you can just use the hide ability if you are that worried?In post 2056, sangres wrote:mett i'm being shot tonight plz be logical ty ;]
In post 2112, No Brains Here wrote:why are you misrepping and trying to discredit me?
You're doing it to yourself. You aren't going to be the continuous cause of a second lynch, nor are you a vig.In post 2104, No Brains Here wrote:town already has 2 lynches the day lynch and us or did you forget about the confirmed vig already
When the day started, I thought the suffocation kill was SK and the Rifle shot was Mafia.In post 2122, No Brains Here wrote:also can you clarify as to whether or not you still think the rifleshot was a scum kill and that the suffocation is a sk kill? has this changed? if so, what are you thinking now?
This was before any claims.In post 1292, Toogeloo wrote:From a flavor perspective, I can totally see Shane as a Serial Killer, and the Gov'nuh and his cronies as the Mafia. The Governor's crew aren't stealthy, they fight with guns, and they outright shoot their enemies. Shane was more of the crazy and kill them in quiet type. He killed Otis and said the zombies ate him, he took Randall into the forest and broke his neck, and he tried to get Rick alone and kill him in quiet as well. I'd say smothering with a pillow represents a player that is on the inside with the players and killing via stealth. Now all this being said, Venny already stated that flavor isn't indicative of anything, but I highly doubt he would say that chesskid got munched on by Walkers but really was a Vig shot. From a setup perspective, outside of Rick, the only characters I could logically see as Vigs are Daryl and Michonne, and considering their weapons (and again, I know it's only flavor) I don't think either would suffocate a player with a pillow or shoot them through the head with a bullet.
Shane as SK and Gov Mafia makes the most sense to me at the moment.