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also the babysitter is a weird bracket claim since i've never heard of it and all the other roles are actual roles.
turns out there's at least one precedent for a role called "babysitter" (here) but i dunno if it is the same as this game.
i think SP is more likely town, anyway, though.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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while you did claim "if there is no doctor..." you failed to mention being a backup (which would imply thereisa doctor)
which seems like a pretty vital piece of information to leave out of your claim
and seems stranger because if you know you're a backup, then you should know why your role might not work without a doctor dying. . .It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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maybe it would be implied in a normal game, but not in this game. because doctor isn't a N word. i think. last time i checked it wasn't.
still, i don't see why you wouldn't claim everything about your role when you claimed, in the interests of full disclosure.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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dittobb wrote:Varsoon's role stresses me out.
go on...peace wrote:It does appear Shadow, that you are looking scumish as well given what you specified.
apart from this being borderline retarded, there have been two VT flips, so technically both of us could be lying.peace wrote:mod said there is at least one Townie. So my guess is one of rail and dante is the liar there.
but yeah, this is borderline retarded logic.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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votecounts coloured in, no analysis yet. going to come back to it later after a break. or tomorrow if i cbf.
D1 votecounts suggest to me that peace has a decent chance of being scum. luna maybe as well. there's a lot of wagons that sprouted that i want to look at a bit more.
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welllll, at least you're so naive that i don't think you can be scum.RC wrote:Luna is town or SK. Either way, let Mafia deal with it.
no, it isn't. i'm not worried about varsoon being hated scum. i'm worried about him being NOT-hated scum. 'coz, you know, the only way to actually test it is to try to lynch him.mit wrote:Varsoon's alignment is irrelevant.
plus if varsoon is scum, as SP said, if we mislynch today then we either have to lynch varsoon tomorrow and hope he's scum, or hope to dear god he's town.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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btw, i think everyone should at least have a look over the vote counts i posted in #1655 and pay particular attention to the people on the peacebringer wagon at all stages of the game, and where peacebringer's vote is at all stages of the game.
i think it strongly suggests peacebringer scum. plus i really want to cut off scum day talk.
i wanna do some ISO stuff before i commit to anything, but i'm thinking peacebringer is the play today.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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logic101. all A have property B doesn't imply anything with property B is A.mit wrote:I am a banana. That is a lie. Am I scum for saying it? No.
because he needed to claimmit wrote:The thing about scum lying is that they do it when there is a tangible benefit to them. They don't just go "MUST LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING!".
What benefit would Varsoon gain from claiming hated?some sort of negative utilityto go along with his double-voting ability or we'd lynch him on the spot.
he may actually be hated, or he could have some other negative utility aspect attached to his role and be lying about being hated because they're 1 mislynch away from a win, orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr he might not have negative utility attached to his role.
that's because every player in his slot, him included, have been a useless pile of null.mit wrote:The thing is, people have been attacking him for his role, instead of his alignment.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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i think it is related to the block. i think PV was targeted N1 (i remember him specifically talking about being N-blocked - i'm guessing this meant nagged).
only thing i don't get is how the message you got related to your role, whereas the message i got was just along the lines of needing to know i'm not naughty and using the word nice in my first post.
obviously it was a troll message but it's weird that you got one relating to your role.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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i don't get it. you think there's scum in RC/BB, but the last part of this paragraph makes it seem like this is something you're uncertain about, and you're talking to RC as though you don't even think he's scum.mit wrote:@RC: Your behaviour in a single newbie game doesn't absolutely mean you're scum in this. I'd rather get some actual scum, before considering you and BB, since I'm fairly certain at least one of you is town.
if theremit wrote:I don't have three names. If there had been a scum flip, I might.hadbeen a scum flip, i'd be pretty fine with you not having three names, but there hasn't been one so there's still (probably) 4 alive, and you can only name maybe 1, and maybe another in two people, but you're not sure which.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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you're clearly not reading, since i think you're scum with luna. plus me being in "get a lynch" mode would imply i'm actually pushing a lynch. and i'm not. although i did urge people to look through the votecounts i posted and make their own conclusions.
although you're right that i'm steering away from SP, but that's mainly because i believe his claim, i like the way he pushed mitillos after mitillos's claim, and he was nagged like i was.
plus i don't give two shits that you happened to be right about some scum in one game you played. iknowyou're either wrong or scum here, so there's that.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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i would be lying if i didn't say i'm probably going to end up voting you today unless i see reason to vote someone else
you don't look town. VCA suggests you're scum. the only reason i'm not currently voting you is because i want to take some time to properly read through ISOs before i commit to a vote today
if i really wanted to break down the reads you gave on the previous page and show why they're completely wrong, i could, but i don't really see a point unless people are foolish enough to take your seriously. maybe i will anyway, just as something to doIt's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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the peak of your D1 wagon had 4 now-dead townies and sleepykrew(majiffy)peacebringer wrote:well seeing how we only have dead confirmed town players, how would you know if scum did or did not vote me?
outside of that there have been a couple random votes here and there from unconfirmed players, but mostly dead confirmed town players voting youIt's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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ok. it's been fun chatting with you, but i honestly don't see the point anymore.
you're either wrong or scum, and since you show no inclination to reconsider your read on me, and i'm probably not going to change my mind about you, it's pointless to clutter up the thread anymore talking to you.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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i'm also beginning to think peacebringer could just be really, really dumb and not necessarily scum.
those reads are just plain awful, but i'm not entirely sure scum-pb looks at the gamestate and goes, "oh attacking RT and SP will work!" especially since if he's scum, he'd know we were roleblocked by the nagger.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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yeah. maybe. or he could be town who has insanely bad reads.sp wrote:They've probably already gameplanned for his lynch and they just told him to make a list without making any waves, and no one is going to take that rambling BS seriously, so no harm/no foul.
i'll get around to reading probably after a nap then make a decision. or waffle on about stuff for a bit more. i dunno. back later.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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i dunno. i wouldn't put anything beyond majiffy. i don't see what you think he has to gain by playing dumb about that, though.ooba wrote:Maj's 1670 is an attempt to play dumb. I can't believe anybody won't know who the double voter is.
doesn't look well-thought out altogetherooba wrote:Doesn't look like well thought out scum posturing
i'm almost certain they're town. if my theory about the nagger is correct (non-consecutive on the same target, would explain why PV was killed isntead of roleblocked N2, and would explain why the same target hasn't been nagged twice yet) then i think it's soooo much more likely they're town who was nagged over scum lying about it.ooba wrote:I don't know why but I'm also getting increasingly paranoid about Shadow.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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the bolded didn't happen but you clearly stated intentvarsoon wrote:The bolded never happened,
The info from a Peace flip will be helpful in the following -days-, regardless of if I'm alive or not,
But the biggest thing is that I'm not scum.
and i don't see why you'd vote based on information when we're most likely one mislynch away from lylo. like yeah, i get that you think one of peace/ooba is scum, but meh.
who are your other scum reads, again?
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maybe majiffy too, but he's being so very, very useless that i dunno
i'm pretty sure i could close my eyes and throw a dart at the rest of the playerlist and have a decent chance of hitting scum
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i actually want to sit down today and read through ISOs and work out who is actually scum.
i'm just finding it so hard to put any effort into this game when it feels like nobody else is.
might go get lunch and force myself to go through ISOs.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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pfffttitus wrote:RC was acting in a highly illogical manner
what do you know?
i think his repeated votes on BB without even trying to seriously push for that lynch was a clear sign of someone who was playing a highly logical, well-thought-out game. the self vote was just an example of next-level thinking.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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hey nacho
why was mnem your N1 target?
before you had any idea that your role was useless, you targeted mnem. last thing you said about mnem D1 was
also what changed between the above and your first post D2?In post 769, Luna Lovegood wrote:This makes me think mem is more town than scum. Generally drifting around with absolutely no purpose, no posturing, nothing is better than opportunism and all that crap. Obviously just a lean, but.
any particular reason for kid A as your N2 target?In post 814, Luna Lovegood wrote:Mnemonic was my other good option for the day, but for obvious reasons it probably isn't the best choice.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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you think too much of yourself.sp wrote:there has to be a reason for scum to be keeping us alive at this point.
N1 killing neromollie over you isn't too much of a surprise. N2 killing PV over you makes sense if the roleblocker couldn't target him two nights in a row and they were worried what sort of confirmable role he had. N3 also makes sense if they were worried about whatever role DV had, as well.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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no hammers before this plxIn post 1857, Rail Tracer wrote:hey nacho
why was mnem your N1 target?
before you had any idea that your role was useless, you targeted mnem. last thing you said about mnem D1 was
also what changed between the above and your first post D2?In post 769, Luna Lovegood wrote:This makes me think mem is more town than scum. Generally drifting around with absolutely no purpose, no posturing, nothing is better than opportunism and all that crap. Obviously just a lean, but.
any particular reason for kid A as your N2 target?In post 814, Luna Lovegood wrote:Mnemonic was my other good option for the day, but for obvious reasons it probably isn't the best choice.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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why ooba?luna wrote:Varsoon/Dante/Mitillos/ooba is where I sit right now
i had doubts about ooba before i went over his ISO but i'm thinking ooba-town seems much more likely here. didn't you think treestump=autotownclaim earlier?
i want at least 5 pizzas from you if this is the case. agreed? i'll be sure to take you up on it postgame, too, so you better be serious if you agree to this.varsoon wrote:If one of Rail Tracer, BBmolla, and PeaceBringer aren't scum, then I'll buy you a pizza.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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i actually think there's a decent chance dante could be being bussed here.
i still think a luna lynch isn't a bad idea.
i am not sure what to make of varsoon's hop off the dante wagon. ooba vote is kind of meh, and the reasoning is rather weak. anyone who isn't connection hunting at this point is probably scum, which is why i don't mind the dante lynch (when the only thing he has to say is, "lynch varsoon!!!!")
i know i'm being indecisive here, but meh. i'll end up voting either dante or luna today.It's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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is this still where you're at?luna wrote:Varsoon/Dante/Mitillos/ooba is where I sit right now
because the way you talked to varsoon in 1952 doesn't look like something i'd expect you to say to a scum read about a scum readIt's begun. It's too late now. There's no going back. I have become the Rail Tracer!-
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