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Post Post #2905 (isolation #200) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:07 am

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or he can wipe out the scum team, like I did on See Nine Plus Plus.

P-Edit: Totally ignoring scumjiffy's posts from now on, he can replace out for all I care.
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Post Post #2911 (isolation #201) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:19 am

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In post 2909, Titus wrote:Sakura, step away from the possible and look at the likely. Create a plan as if Pie will be lynched.
Why cant we lynch scumjiffy?
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Post Post #2915 (isolation #202) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:26 am

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Ok fine
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Post Post #2918 (isolation #203) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:30 am

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>_______________>

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Post Post #2924 (isolation #204) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:22 am

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In post 2923, Titus wrote:Pyro, pick a side. Levi or Pyro.
I giggled, but i supposed it was a typo. :lol:
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Post Post #2931 (isolation #205) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:08 am

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Who else would you vote if pieguyn didnt exist?
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Post Post #2932 (isolation #206) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:10 am

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Oh wait, you said Nacho in the QT, since you were pretty much parroting what i was saying with a "Yeah i agree"
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Post Post #2934 (isolation #207) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:14 am

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Neighborhood QT.
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Post Post #2937 (isolation #208) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:16 am

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In post 2936, leviathan93 wrote:I also keep forgetting that I have a QT sorry Sakura!
You certainly forgot last night... until right before thread opened. Where you went and "Oh i agree with you that nacho might be scum".
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Post Post #2938 (isolation #209) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:16 am

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I would think if you really "Kept forgetting" you wouldnt even have said anything until now in the QT.
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Post Post #2941 (isolation #210) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:19 am

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Also when i questioned his scum claim he said "I'm trying to cause a scum slip" that's when my townread on levi started falling. And then says he was only "slighly leaning scum" on him.
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Post Post #2942 (isolation #211) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:19 am

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My previous post was wrt waynegg
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Post Post #2943 (isolation #212) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:23 am

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In post 2940, Wake1 wrote:If pie flips Mafia, I'm coming after one of a small group of people.
And if pie flips SK im going after you, Majiffy and waynegg. Levi's also a strong scumread but unrelated to the flip, he's just playing survival there.
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Post Post #2949 (isolation #213) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:44 am

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In post 2945, Svenskt Stål wrote:first time ever that A lynches B for pushing a NON town lynch
Except scum has to kill the SK too, by whatever means necessary.
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Post Post #2953 (isolation #214) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:50 am

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the SK also needs to die for Scum to win.
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Post Post #2955 (isolation #215) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:52 am

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I've already done scumhunting I've pointed out 4 scum.
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Post Post #2956 (isolation #216) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:54 am

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Like seriously... think about it, what is the most common thing to give to an SK in most setups?... Bulletproof, limited shot obv. And what happened last night? only the kill from the SK!
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Post Post #2959 (isolation #217) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:01 am

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I'm NOT hammering pie. He's a valuable asset to town.

P-Edit: Yeah I'm thinking scum actually wanted to kill pie last night but encountered a bulletproof vest.
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Post Post #2979 (isolation #218) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:20 am

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In post 2978, Svenskt Stål wrote:urrently, i fear the number of village idiots more than i fear scum.

village idiots, strongest faction arround
For instance those voting pie.

If they were smart they would scumhunt so we give pie a decent pool of people to shoot at.
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Post Post #2981 (isolation #219) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:26 am

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In post 2980, Svenskt Stål wrote:you assume that pie is SK 100%

pie is not SK 100% of the time
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Post Post #2985 (isolation #220) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:36 am

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Apparently, she doesn't but If that responsibility is gonna fall on me I rather we all scumhunt so I can have a clearer view of where everyone stands.
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Post Post #2988 (isolation #221) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:42 am

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Levi, Majiffy, Waynegg, Sven, Empking, Wake.

Are the people I've scumread throughout the game to the most extent, I'm not so sure on Sven anymore, and I don't wanna kill a soft-claimed unlimited tracker. So

Levi, Majiffy, Waynegg, Empking.
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Post Post #2999 (isolation #222) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:57 am

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Majiffy's 1-shot watcher tho.

And that doesnt mean he can't be scum.
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Post Post #3006 (isolation #223) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:01 am

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Wake, did you realize that majiffy is accusing you of busing pie?
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Post Post #3028 (isolation #224) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:12 am

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In post 3022, kanyeknowsbest wrote:i dont care hes more harmful to this town than the benefit he brings through his pr. someone could claim factional scum right now and i would still want to lynch wake over them.
Him, Majiffy and Waynegg, tho Majiffy to a bigger extent, waynegg was too but he has stayed silent for a while.
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Post Post #3039 (isolation #225) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:18 am

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When majiffy stops tunneling i'll prob. stop scumreading him.

I do want to move the wagon towards wake tho as I intended before.

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P-Edit: Titus: Then ignore the super vocal guys that only know how to talk crap about lynching the SK and scumhunt together with town.
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Post Post #3044 (isolation #226) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:22 am

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In post 3043, Wake1 wrote:Your vote makes no sense, and is yet another desperate distraction to protect the Serial Killer.
If anything it's a counterwagon to levi.

Which makes no sense either, but why did you focus on the SK and not on my other scumread?
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Post Post #3050 (isolation #227) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:27 am

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Agar unvoted so he's at L-2 right now, and you totally ignored the fact that I proved you're tunneling and not scumhunting.

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Post Post #3054 (isolation #228) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:31 am

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See the thing is...

I moved from Levi to wake. I didnt touch pie's wagon.
Which means I'm making a 3rd wagon on Wake to counter Levi's wagon who is my scumread.

Yet wake ignores this and continues focusing on the SK.
Ergo: Wake is either scum who knows i'm town or is just tunneling and is useless.
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Post Post #3057 (isolation #229) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:33 am

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In post 3055, Natirasha wrote:I can't fucking wait for pie to shoot two scum and win us the game.
Like that one see nine plus plus game where I shoot the remaining scum during N2 and won town the game.
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Post Post #3058 (isolation #230) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:33 am

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In post 3056, Wake1 wrote:
It's both incredibly frustrating and extremely intriguing when Townies refuse to lynch Scum.
what part of

LEASHING THE SK


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Post Post #3061 (isolation #231) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:36 am

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I wasn't, If it wasn't obvious I was reaction testing. And I just said what I noticed from it already.

Both are my scumreads and either of them can go die.

P-Edit: If you really thought I was scum and you were scumhunting you'd be paying attention to my actions.
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Post Post #3066 (isolation #232) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:38 am

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I'm obviously not giving the leash of the SK to scum.
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Post Post #3073 (isolation #233) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:42 am

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Even if AA9 was town it was still a suboptimal kill for scum because she was mislynchable from a scum PoV.

So you rather SK dies and scum would have shot a PR? one of the multiple claimed ones?
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Post Post #3076 (isolation #234) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:42 am

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In post 3074, Wake1 wrote:If I were Scum I'd have tried to kill him last Night.
Because SK's obviously come unprotected.
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Post Post #3084 (isolation #235) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:44 am

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In post 3077, Wake1 wrote:Kay, who's this aimed at?
Waynegg.

PEd: Sorry but he doesnt have investigation immunity.

PEd2: Sure.
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Post Post #3092 (isolation #236) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:47 am

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In post 3087, Natirasha wrote:
In post 3085, Titus wrote:This may come down to Kanye and Pyro.
I'm not lynching Kanye.
I think she meant as the ones deciding who to lynch.

I'm totally up for a lynch of anyone on my pool of 6 from before.
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Post Post #3093 (isolation #237) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 9:47 am

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ftr, titus is a she.
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Post Post #3113 (isolation #238) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:06 am

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In post 3112, waynegg wrote:wrt isn't a word
You're right, it's not a word, it's 3 words.
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Post Post #3117 (isolation #239) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:07 am

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I love how all my scumreads are jumping into the pool by themselves.
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Post Post #3120 (isolation #240) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:08 am

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In post 3118, Wake1 wrote:but even then it's so tough to garner unity.
It's obviously not thanks to you.
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Post Post #3148 (isolation #241) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:32 am

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Wake, So i take it you no longer want to lynch pie but leash him with the rest of the town?

P-Edit: OMFG
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Post Post #3160 (isolation #242) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:41 am

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My nominations are: Majiffy, Waynegg, Empking/Levi (depending on if Levi survives or not)

Leaving wake out since he already put himself on the list.

I still don't see why wake wants to leash the SK and is still voting him.

PEd: Looks like he wants to act like town now that he started getting flac for it.
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Post Post #3165 (isolation #243) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:43 am

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In post 3164, Natirasha wrote:Who said anything about Wake being scum?
I did. And still do.
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Post Post #3170 (isolation #244) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:46 am

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In post 3166, waynegg wrote:look at who all hasn't posted for the most part this game day to weigh in on anything...
Empking, Agar, Belisarious, NachoKoopa, Pyro, talah.
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Post Post #3174 (isolation #245) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:48 am

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In post 3171, Wake1 wrote:Sakura, we need your current top 3, not 2 and either/or: that brings the nominations out of sync.
In post 3160, Sakura Hana wrote:My nominations are: Majiffy, Waynegg, Empking/Levi (
depending on if Levi survives or not
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Post Post #3175 (isolation #246) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:48 am

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By that it means that it's most likely empking unless levi survives.
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Post Post #3177 (isolation #247) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:49 am

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Also I'm glad we're finally seeing process, how much does one have to yell at people to start thinking together like town instead of breathing fire at the claimed and leashed SK.
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Post Post #3181 (isolation #248) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:51 am

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In post 3175, Sakura Hana wrote:By that it means that it's most likely empking unless levi survives.
If levi is lynched, Empking
Otherwise, Levi.
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Post Post #3184 (isolation #249) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:51 am

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In post 3182, Majiffy wrote:I'm not getting involved in this "lets kill more fucking townies instead of the claimed scum" fest.
Will you dance for me if pie shoots scum tonight?
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Post Post #3214 (isolation #250) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:19 am

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I think 4 people is enough of a vig pool.
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Post Post #3233 (isolation #251) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:44 am

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In post 3231, Wake1 wrote:
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a: Majiffy, Waynegg, Empking/Majiffy,
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Post Post #3237 (isolation #252) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:47 am

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In post 3235, Natirasha wrote:Curious: Do any of the non-deathtunnelers mind swinging onto Empking?
Ehhh, if only for seeing what levi does tonight on the QT but i doubt it since he's done nothing during today either.

Empking has been my suspicion since D1.
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Post Post #3239 (isolation #253) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:48 am

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In post 3236, Wake1 wrote:What does everyone else think of this? Do you think I should go ahead and do as Titus says?
Yes
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Post Post #3244 (isolation #254) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:53 am

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4 targets is enough, if not too much (I'd rather have 3)

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Also pyro suddenly appears, now you think we're being more productive now for you to want to come in?
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Post Post #3247 (isolation #255) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:54 am

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In post 3243, Titus wrote:This day needs to end. Bad.
Really?
In post 2925, Kdub wrote:Deadline: 17 days, 7 hours, 4 minutes
Don't think so.
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Post Post #3305 (isolation #256) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:10 pm

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In post 3300, Wake1 wrote:1) It is in Town's win condition to kill Scum.
Since when did you start thinking that we werent lynching the SK ever?
In post 3300, Wake1 wrote:2) Town does not need help from Scum.
If we have a town vig, i'd accept this, but a Leashed SK is good enough.
In post 3300, Wake1 wrote:3) The existence of claimed SK has caused much division and drama.
That's your own guys fault for not wanting to compromise
In post 3300, Wake1 wrote:4) Claimed SK can hit and kill Townies at Night.
He can also hit and kill Scum at night.
In post 3300, Wake1 wrote:5) It has done so last Night.
So did the vig during the day, on a more towny target than the SK.
In post 3300, Wake1 wrote:6) We can end up lynching Townies over SK.
We can also end up lynching scum over the SK.
In post 3300, Wake1 wrote:7) Game does not say if dead Townies has PRs; we could have lost PRs.
Same happened with Mastin when he was killed yesterday, and scum will kill townies too.
In post 3300, Wake1 wrote:8) Claimed SK could be Mafia Goon.
Appeal to probability? not to mention how highly unlikely this is.
In post 3300, Wake1 wrote:9) If fakeclaiming Goon, it could be using fakeclaim material provided by mod.
Same as above.
In post 3300, Wake1 wrote:10) Two Townies with possible PRs have already been lost.
Would you rather have had AA9 lynched instead? she was the easiest mislynch for scum to achieve.
In post 3300, Wake1 wrote:11) Another Town (PR?) can be lynched/Shot before it.
So can Scum?
In post 3300, Wake1 wrote:12) It could kill Cop, Doc, Tracker, Watcher,
Neighbor
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Yet you want him to shoot me.
In post 3300, Wake1 wrote:13) Town is hopelessly divided over its fate.
Again that's your own fault for helping divide town.
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Post Post #3312 (isolation #257) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:12 pm

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So pie shot AA9 a player that would've been lynched otherwise if pie hadn't claimed SK, yet you say nothing about Kalimar (Titus' predecessor) who Day killed one of the most valuable town members yesterday?
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Post Post #3319 (isolation #258) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:18 pm

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Oh almost forgot one question
@Pyro: wrt levi i'm scumreading him because of QT interactions (or lach thereof) plus some stuff that left me uneasy on D1.
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Post Post #3320 (isolation #259) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:18 pm

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*lack
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Post Post #3325 (isolation #260) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:24 pm

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Anyway im off for now, this game has been giving me a headache.
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Post Post #3367 (isolation #261) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:58 pm

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In post 3365, waynegg wrote:I feel it's legit. How can you expect someone to have the capability to read between the lines to find the nuanced differences between scum and town when they lack the capability to spell even simple words? If you can't handle the basics if English, hou are you going to interpret the complexities?
Well dang i'm not a native english speaker, guess i shouldnt be in MS then :V
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Post Post #3369 (isolation #262) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:03 pm

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No, it was sarcasm.
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Post Post #3388 (isolation #263) » Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:59 pm

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If anything the risk takers are more likely to be town than the careful ones.
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Post Post #3485 (isolation #264) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:07 am

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Can you please imagine pie as Town vig, where we direct his shots for the night and go back to scumhunting.
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Post Post #3489 (isolation #265) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:12 am

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@Titus:
Solid Town: kanye, Nati.
Leaning Town: Agar, talah.
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Post Post #3490 (isolation #266) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:13 am

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In post 3488, talah wrote:
In post 3482, Wake1 wrote:What happens if we lynch Empking and he flips Town, and then pieguyn kills another Townie?
Well, who's your strongest scumread after pie?
Maybe we could lynch them instead.
Why. Dont. We. Just. Do. This:
In post 3485, Sakura Hana wrote:Can you please imagine pie as Town vig, where we direct his shots for the night and go back to scumhunting.
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Post Post #3494 (isolation #267) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:18 am

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In post 3491, Empking wrote:Keeping Pie alive means a destruction of days, or less discussion. What ever you believe theres no town motivation for wanting that.
It doesnt, if anything doing my proposal will stop all the drama and arguing over his lynch and town should go back to normal scumhunting, he will eventually be lynched, just not yet.

If anything, you're about to quicklynch quickly wasting D2 and sending it into night, where's the town motivation behind that?

PEd: wayne is one of my scumreads, so no.
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Post Post #3497 (isolation #268) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:22 am

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In post 3495, Wake1 wrote:NO. He is claimed SK. HOWEVER, he could also be a Mafia Goon pretending to be a helpful SK. How many times have you ever seen a Serial Killer willingly out himself and decide to help Town?
More than once.
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Post Post #3509 (isolation #269) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:48 am

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In post 3502, Titus wrote:You and Sakura would have to convince me that Pie is trustworthy.
Given how See Nine Plus Plus had us vigging you D1 due to how you buddy'd Varsoon and wanted us (The town vig) dead, what makes you think i'd be able to convince you here to trust an actual SK?
In post 3503, leviathan93 wrote:Also, I'd prefer to be lynched then vigged. so if I'm going to die within the day, then that one works out really well for me. =)
So you would rather not talk with me tonight?
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Post Post #3542 (isolation #270) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:20 am

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OK wake, let's assume you're right and we would should've lynched pie yesterday, assume some town PR (if he's town) like Majiffy dies by NK, dont you think we would be lynching AA9 today like you were doing yesterday?:
In post 1783, Kdub wrote:ArcAngel9 (9) - NachoKoopa, Natirasha, Sakura Hana, talah, Pyrotechnics, pieguyn, Svenskt Stål, PeregrineV,
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So, you're mad the SK shoot someone YOU wanted dead yesterday?
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Post Post #3558 (isolation #271) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:31 am

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Re: Agar:
I have just a slight town lean on him, his actions D1 seemed town motivated to me.
In post 3546, Wake1 wrote:Remember, right when I replaced in I said I joined the wagon on AA9 because time was running short.

And, I do note you grasping at old straws.
Yeah, ok, except you were on AA9 for at least 4-5 vote counts.
I'm not grasping at straws, but you yourself wanted to see her dead otherwise you wouldn't have voted her, in fact, your entrance indicated that you joined the wagon without knowing what you were doing, and you decided to just sit there for the rest of the day until the SK was revealed.

If you dont want someone dead why would you vote them?

Don't try to shift responsibility just because AA9 flipped town, if she wasn't killed what do you think would have been today's wagon? maybe.... AA9?

PEd: Now, pieguy already claimed investigation immunity, so you think he's a godfather?
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Post Post #3560 (isolation #272) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:32 am

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Titus, you dont trust pieguy to choose among a pool right? what do you think of this pool

1) Wake88


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Post Post #3562 (isolation #273) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:35 am

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And even in the given case that you think pie is mafia goon instead of SK.

Under what circumstances would scum kill AA9 seeing as all town wanted her dead yesterday, and that was unlikely to change today? Seemed like something they could've pushed for a mislynch while shooting a tracker or a watcher.
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Post Post #3565 (isolation #274) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:36 am

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In post 3563, Wake1 wrote:I'm not psychic, Sakura, and the beginning of a brand new Day serves as a way to orient myself to the game in order to start forming reads/opinions.
Yeah exactly, you thought AA9 was scum as much as everyone else in here did. What's the scum motivation behind AA9 kill and i'll concede.
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Post Post #3577 (isolation #275) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:44 am

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In post 3572, Titus wrote:Do you have any control on who you neighborize?
I'm not a Neighborizer and never claimed as such, im just neighbor with levi from the get go.
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Post Post #3588 (isolation #276) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:03 am

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In post 3587, Titus wrote:Is there any chance Natirasha that I can convince you to lynch Pie?
We are NOT lynching pie.
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Post Post #3610 (isolation #277) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:35 am

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Wake im still waiting for that scum motivation behind killing AA9.
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Post Post #3616 (isolation #278) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:39 am

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It's simple.

Wake and wayne already know he's town.
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Post Post #3625 (isolation #279) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:49 am

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In post 3624, Wake1 wrote:Well, Sakura is manipulative Scum based on her deliberate feigning of ignorance. Yet again, Sakura, a motivation for Scum to join the AA9 wagon is because it seemed to be an easy lynch according to general opinion (not mine).
I didnt mean the wagon, I meant during the night.
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Post Post #3626 (isolation #280) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:50 am

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And now that you said AA9 was an easy lynch scum should have even LESS reason to kill AA9 from your PoV
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Post Post #3630 (isolation #281) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:58 am

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Simple, wake is blind and cannot see elsewhere other than pie, to him, everything other than pie is town, and has lost any sense of reasoning or scumhunting.
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Post Post #3632 (isolation #282) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:42 am

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In post 3631, Titus wrote:Wake has vanished entirely.
What do you mean?
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Post Post #3636 (isolation #283) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:51 am

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Not only that, he avoided my question regarding the nightkill on AA9 and transformed it into a question regarding the lynch of AA9.
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Post Post #3637 (isolation #284) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:52 am

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In post 3565, Sakura Hana wrote:What's the scum motivation behind AA9 kill and i'll concede.
In post 3610, Sakura Hana wrote:Wake im still waiting for that scum motivation behind killing AA9.
After these he went and said the scum motivation behind the AA9 lynch.

When i think it was pretty obvious i was referring to the night kill, he misrepped the question... whether on purpose or not, idk, but when i rephrased it, he poof'd...
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Post Post #3640 (isolation #285) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:57 am

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In post 3638, Titus wrote:Sakura, on a random note, how often do you crumb?
Not often, but i fakecrumbed a cop inno on my strongest townread once, i sux at crumbs anyway.
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Post Post #3658 (isolation #286) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:47 pm

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Wake avoiding my question by answering something else for the SECOND time has been noted.

@Titus: If we lose 2 more townies, then yes. If one of them is a scum flip then no.
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Post Post #3659 (isolation #287) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:47 pm

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In post 3658, Sakura Hana wrote:@Titus: If we lose 2 more townies, then yes. If one of them is a scum flip then no.
This should be motivation enough for pie to hit correctly
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Post Post #3662 (isolation #288) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:51 pm

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Click on the ISO buttong, i've clarified my question countless times.
In post 3637, Sakura Hana wrote:When i think it was pretty obvious i was referring to the night kill, he misrepped the question... whether on purpose or not, idk, but when i rephrased it, he poof'd..
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Post Post #3663 (isolation #289) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:52 pm

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If the SK is dying tomorrow for certain what motivation does he have to even help the town? I already said, if 1 mafia dies either by lynch or NK today, then he wont be lynched.
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Post Post #3666 (isolation #290) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:56 pm

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So seems like Wake isn't interested in giving me a scum motive for killing AA9
last night
to which I would concede and lynch pie, seems like he's not that interested on getting me to vote pie, and is just avoiding my question. I'm from here on ignoring all of Wake's posts unless he decides to reply or admit that there's no scum motivation on it.

Bolded for enphasis.
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Post Post #3672 (isolation #291) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:04 pm

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@pie: It's called partial reveal.
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Post Post #3674 (isolation #292) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:06 pm

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Meanwhile, Wake continues to offer scum motivation for the AA9 night kill, henceforth im going to call him a hypocrite because it's obvious it wasn't commited by scum, but by the SK, and it was within the pool, hence town motivated.

Not lynching pie ever after this, even if he kills all the town.
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Post Post #3676 (isolation #293) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:06 pm

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EBWOP: to not offer*
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Post Post #3678 (isolation #294) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:09 pm

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Wake continues to claim that pieguy is mafia.
But doesnt offer scum motivation behind the AA9 kill.
Yet admits that AA9 was the easy lynch.
So there's even less scum motivation to kill AA9 since leaving her alive would have earned town an easy mislynch.

Go through the head of what motivation would kill AA9 during the night... oh right a town vig, who eliminates scum, easy mislynches, hindrances.

If you still wanna kill pie after it's been proven he wants to work with town idk what's wrong with you.
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Post Post #3681 (isolation #295) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:10 pm

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Just vig wake tonight.
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Post Post #3684 (isolation #296) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:11 pm

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Oh for the love of im tired of this

Suicide bomb on Wake
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Post Post #3692 (isolation #297) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:15 pm

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I'd gladiator right now Wake if I could, He's being the strong voice of discontent now that Majiffy doesnt want to bother, I've already provided enough town motivation behind the AA9 night kill, yet Wake doesn't provide scum motivation behind the AA9 night kill, if town won't listen to reason and start scum hunting
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NO ONE has provided any scum motivation for the AA9 night kill... NO ONE.

And i have provided town motivation.

Like... what in the fricken hell.
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Post Post #3693 (isolation #298) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:16 pm

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Also Nat wanting to lynch Pie tomorrow is making me lose what townread i had of him... sigh... this game.
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Post Post #3695 (isolation #299) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:18 pm

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Yes it was, kinda wanted to reaction test a bit, but the mod posted way too soon...

If I could gladiator wake right now i would so do it.
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Post Post #3698 (isolation #300) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:22 pm

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In post 3697, Wake1 wrote:*I can offer to anyone who joins SK wagon the ability to choose who I track Night 3.
*I'm also willing to agree to almost any other condition if it gets the Serial Killer lynched
Now that's playing cheap, and you still haven't acknowledge my counter case on pie.
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Post Post #3699 (isolation #301) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:23 pm

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actually
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Post Post #3700 (isolation #302) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:23 pm

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idc if this lynch never gets through, im sticking to this, it's him or me, I want him dead... and fast.
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Post Post #3709 (isolation #303) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:26 pm

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Best post made by waynegg ever.

Titus: the fact that you guys want pie lynched tomorrow regardless of if he hits scum tonight or not is what's making me go through with this. I don't wanna be alive in here.

also Bomb is a player that suicides to kill another player

gladiator is an ability in which only the user and the target can be voted for the rest of the day.
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Post Post #3711 (isolation #304) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:27 pm

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In post 3710, Natirasha wrote:Yeah, I'll agree to these conditions.
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Post Post #3716 (isolation #305) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:30 pm

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In post 3713, Natirasha wrote:Sakura, at the end of the day, you sometimes have to compromise. We're getting one more night of vigging.
I'm NOT LYNCHING SOMEONE THAT HAS SHOWN TOWN MOTIVATION THROUGHOUT HIS ACTIONS.

Compromise or not idc, this is not town play, this is letting scum manipulate you.
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Post Post #3719 (isolation #306) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:31 pm

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my bombing was a reaction test titus.... i didnt actually bomb nor use any gladiator ability.
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Post Post #3721 (isolation #307) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:32 pm

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Basically pie... they want you dead tomorrow, regardless of whether you hit correctly or not. NICE REWARD!

If i was pie right now i'd totally be vigging the towniest town tonight in spite for such a compromise.

Like seriously, you arent even giving him motivation to shoot correctly.
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Post Post #3725 (isolation #308) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:33 pm

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In post 3722, Wake1 wrote:Yeah, kill suspected Scum over confScum.
SK != Scum

How many times do I have to repeat myself...
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Post Post #3728 (isolation #309) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:36 pm

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Better plan, pie shoots whoever the heck he wants tonight, but if he hits town then he gets lynched tomorrow.
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Post Post #3730 (isolation #310) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:38 pm

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If i could that would have actually counted... are you even reading.
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Post Post #3735 (isolation #311) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:40 pm

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Maybe i should put it in higher font size since people seems to have missed it.
In post 3678, Sakura Hana wrote:
Wake continues to claim that pieguy is mafia.
But doesnt offer scum motivation behind the AA9 kill.
Yet admits that AA9 was the easy lynch.
So there's even less scum motivation to kill AA9 since leaving her alive would have earned town an easy mislynch.

Go through the head of what motivation would kill AA9 during the night... oh right a town vig, who eliminates scum, easy mislynches, hindrances.

If you still wanna kill pie after it's been proven he wants to work with town idk what's wrong with you.
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Post Post #3744 (isolation #312) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:44 pm

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In post 3738, AGar wrote:Serious question: Did Wake ever accuse Pie of being groupscum? I've always read it as "Pie is the SK, why aren't we lynching the SK?" But I'm also half-reading Wake after his huge ego outburst because it rubbed me an awful way.
I think so, its possible i misrepped it because of all the noise that Wake is creating, and i don't like his cheap offers just to get pie lynched at all, it sounds like manipulative scum to me.
I'll ISO him anyway and see what i find.

PEd: @Titus: he gets lynched obv.
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Post Post #3748 (isolation #313) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:47 pm

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nvm, that wasnt too hard to find:
In post 3540, Wake1 wrote:And if pie is groupsScum, the rest of the Scum have every damned reason to get as much mileage out of that gambit as possible.
In post 3552, Wake1 wrote:It is NOT a long stretch for groupscum, already committed to this gambit, to also have their member claim some sort of BP status.
In post 3553, Wake1 wrote:If part of groupscum, it could be a lie.
In post 3532, Wake1 wrote:Pie could be groupscum. At least you two should admit the possibility.
It's possibly a stretch to say he's been advocating, but still he hasn't provided scum motivation behind last night's NK, and i've provided town motivation, why is he being more convincing after i've proved it differently?
Unless anyone wants to prove to me the scum motivation behind the AA9 kill?
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Post Post #3750 (isolation #314) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:50 pm

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In post 3749, Titus wrote:Sakura, if I have your guarantee that if Pie hits town any town, we lynch him, period. I will vote Wake. Otherwise, my vote stays.
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Post Post #3755 (isolation #315) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:52 pm

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Oh but i already provided a legitimate town motivation behind killing AA9.
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Post Post #3760 (isolation #316) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:56 pm

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because obviously a tracker cannot be scum in a game that's most probably role madness.
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Post Post #3761 (isolation #317) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:56 pm

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In post 3757, Wake1 wrote:Should you be successful in convincing 10 people to lynch claimed nonconsecutive Tracker over claimed Serial Killer
You got 2 votes on you, so you mean 9 right?
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Post Post #3766 (isolation #318) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:59 pm

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In post 3763, Titus wrote:Oh shit. I've never played role madness. That might throw off my calculations. What's that?
Role madness means every player is a PR, incl. scum.
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Post Post #3768 (isolation #319) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:01 pm

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Which means, scum unconsecutive tracker is very likely. I even had once a role madness multiball where 1 scum team had watcher and tracker.
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Post Post #3769 (isolation #320) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:02 pm

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anyways im off for now, either lynch wake or lynch me, those are your 2 options.

GO!
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Post Post #3794 (isolation #321) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:56 pm

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4 on Wake, 6 to go.
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Post Post #3795 (isolation #322) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:57 pm

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I'm surprised pie isnt voting wake yet :P
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Post Post #3811 (isolation #323) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:02 pm

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In post 3809, Pyrotechnics wrote:Why is there a wagon on Wake?
Because he's scum, he keeps pushing that the SK isnt helping town even after i pointed out Town motivation in the night kill, yet he keeps saying he's helping scum instead, and cant come up with scum motivation behind the night kill.
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Post Post #3813 (isolation #324) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:04 pm

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pieguy hitting scum tonight will end the debate, you are opposed to let that happen, ergo you're scum.
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Post Post #3820 (isolation #325) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:12 pm

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In post 3815, Wake1 wrote:The Serial Killer dying ends the debate.
The serial killer is doing pro-town actions, so he's not gonna try to hit town on purpose.
But since you guys are paranoid over it, He can live only if he hits scum tonight.
You are defending too much the scummy person that got vig'd over scum, just because they were town.

Titus, was I scum in See Nine Plus Plus for vigging you when you were town?
Tammy, was I scummy on Stacking the deck of power for hitting only town with my vig shots?
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Post Post #3825 (isolation #326) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:15 pm

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In reality tho, I actually dont think he's scum either, but I want to get rid of the one guy that's the responsible for all this noise that isn't helping scumhunting get anywhere.
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Post Post #3828 (isolation #327) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:17 pm

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That's what I said.
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Post Post #3831 (isolation #328) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:18 pm

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If only he had admitted that there was no scum motivation behind AA9's nightkill, but Town motivation and had decided to leash the SK or at least agree to the compromise I offered this wouldn't be happening, but I rather die than let the SK get lynched without giving him another chance, or Wake dies.
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Post Post #3836 (isolation #329) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:20 pm

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In post 3829, Pyrotechnics wrote:No you weren't. Vigs aren't scummy when they make sound vig choices.
And pie made a vig sound choice.
So I don't see what people are so mad about.
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Post Post #3841 (isolation #330) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:22 pm

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but also requires him to kill scum!
He made the right kill last night otherwise we'd be WIFOMing all over AA9 today.
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Post Post #3846 (isolation #331) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:24 pm

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"From a scum target" So you have information wrt Empking's alignment?
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Post Post #3847 (isolation #332) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:25 pm

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And here we are going in circle's again, All wake's fault in the end.
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Post Post #3852 (isolation #333) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:27 pm

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So what if i wanna keep an SK with town motivation alive?
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Post Post #3862 (isolation #334) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:32 pm

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Well pie, lesson learned, next time keep pretending you're a vig, you see that hell breaks loose with these stupid debates.

As for me i'm done with this, I don't see an inch of town motivation on wanting to lynch someone with town motivation. Also I'm tired of arguing and people ignoring my one post where I explained why pie has town motivation.

People don't listen, they dont wanna unite, and everyone's after their own goals... ironically the only person that wants to unite is the one that is third party LOLOLOL the irony.

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Post Post #3865 (isolation #335) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:35 pm

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Well I guess pyro, kanye and nacho too... too bad they arent here to shed some light on the darkness and im left alone here fighting an uphill battle.

PEd: Lol trust tells now?
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Post Post #3873 (isolation #336) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:44 pm

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Wake, you're the worst kind of player I've ever seen, you use the cheapest tactics on the book to get your way, and I can't see town motivation behind that, dunno why i even think you're town all you're doing is trying to take control over town by self-proclaiming yourself the one that has to shackle the SK and stuff, yet I never had a need to do that, and yet people still followed me somewhat, Good fricken luck finding the scum team without the vig tho, I hope you dont end up finding it difficult to lynch them because they might be the most vocal people in the town. But if you're scum... keep going, you're doing fine, and you'll probably earn the win for your team anyways.

I'm too tired of arguing here and I just met a new person to add to my book of people i dont wanna play with.

PEd: Trust tell or not, that was a very cheap way of doing things, and doing things like "I'LL DO WHATEVER YOU WANT IF YOU VOTE PIE!" are cheap too, like, if you had any reasoning to support pie's lynch you wouldn't need to resort to such tactics, I've shown reasoning behind pie's motives and no one gave a counter argument nor counter reason. Yet they still wanna lynch him just because he's third party. A third party that has agreed to help town and has SHOWN that he wants to help town. But no, of course, motive has nothing to do in this game, it's just something to be swept under the table because we're too blind to see further away.

Even if in the end pie gets lynched I've done my job here, I've unmasked Wake's true motives and managed to show the town motivation behind pie's actions... but you see the fact that people are still voting him, means my words mean nothing. Thanks to everyone except Majiffy, Wake and waynegg for the game tho, it was fun until all this BS started and everyone just became blind.
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Post Post #3875 (isolation #337) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:45 pm

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Oh yeah almost forgot
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Post Post #3880 (isolation #338) » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:48 pm

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In post 3879, Natirasha wrote:NO YOU TAKE THAT SHIT BACK RIGHT NOW SAKURA
I really meant it when i said it was either Wake or me, and I already summarized my feelings, replace out stays, im not putting up for his cheap tactics anymore.
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Post Post #3984 (isolation #339) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:13 am

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@Natirasha: Stop it please, I don't like being innocent child'd just because I replace out or of my AtE, I hate trust tells and I wanted to replace out to avoid ruining the game with my discussion with Wake and because Wake was annoying me, and now your meta of me is IC'ing me and I don't like that either.

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Post Post #3989 (isolation #340) » Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:25 am

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I was replacing out because of rage, the mod noticed this and asked me to reconsider, but seeing you were IC'ing me again just because of it is what made me not want to come back. I'm tired of this IC status I get everytime it happens, it just ruins games for others and if i cant avoid you guys from using my meta in this way im just gonna stop playing overall. In fact I rather let the mod modkill me than pie shooting me but i doubt the mod would give me that request.
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Post Post #7134 (isolation #341) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:56 pm

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That Vengekill.
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Post Post #7142 (isolation #342) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:11 pm

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In post 7139, Kdub wrote:AGar kills kanyeknowsbest (protected - Pyrotechnics dies instead)
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Post Post #7157 (isolation #343) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:13 pm

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Oh hey mastin, any words for me?
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Post Post #7161 (isolation #344) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:31 pm

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I really apologize for replacing out tho, and im working on improving both in not being so overly emotional and overreactive and also in handling situations like the one presented here as well.
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Post Post #7164 (isolation #345) » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:34 pm

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In post 7163, Kdub wrote:Wing
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