Link it.In post 3805, Tierce wrote:I am NOT voting Benmage at this point. And before anyone pulls the majorly idiotic move and calls me scum for not countervoting, I was Town in Maf.Xenologue and didn't vote the blundering idiot who voted my slot in MyLo, even though I thought he was scum.
So.
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So you wanted to lynch me so badly... but couldnt deduce the obvious answers I just gave youIn post 3803, Tierce wrote:
Sure, saving it from the scum QT! Or perhaps I just went through the game to see Reck's tracks and hit upon some things that at the time didn't seem relevant. Good job on pointless mudslinging, though!In post 3800, Benmage wrote:
Mafia is typically shot....In post 3798, Tierce wrote:
Because the guys who roleblocked Fate are scum, and they have Daytalk, and they chose to roleblock him again the following Night which meant that they suspected they got it right, and that post was made after Magua claimed the kill but before he claimed the flavor, so how did you even know that the missing one was the SK shot?In post 3795, Benmage wrote:
Why?In post 3793, Tierce wrote:
I want to lynch you so badly for this one, Ben.In post 1599, Benmage wrote:Food for thought... we're missing an SK shot no?
You think I thought Magua was the SK, claiming killing cred D2
I said, "no" with a "?" to illustrate plausible shenanigans....
How are u remembering this? So long ago?/Bringing it up now??? Saving ammo in the scumqt for final days? Got it.
Does 2+2 still = 4, or has something changed today?
I know its opposite day with Bulb, anything else random I'm missing?"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Where did Tierce run and hide to?
Scumqt? Sees ship sinking?
You still got a 3rd partner... comeback and play."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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HAHAHAHAHH blacklist me for quickvoting lylo.In post 3810, Tierce wrote:Oh, believe me that I am beyond pissed off if you are Town. But I am past throwing a tantrum. I have better things to do with my life than expect you to be a good player, so.
On the other hand, I get the perfectly legitimate reason for never playing with you again if you're Town, because screw you for quickvoting in LyLo if you're Town~
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p5277640
YOU"VE PLAYED YOUR SCUM META TO A T.
Go fuckurself and cry to someone else, you whiney bitch.
WAHHHH blacklisting for quick voting.
YOUVE DONE SHIT ALL GAME.
FUCK U
(not u the person, you the player in the game BECAUSE IT FCUKING BLOWS)
die bitch"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Yes, Never in the history of this site has pedits ever not failed.In post 3813, Tierce wrote:
Fascinating on how you still post this after you have certainly seen me post in preview-edits.In post 3811, Benmage wrote:Where did Tierce run and hide to?
Scumqt? Sees ship sinking?
You still got a 3rd partner... comeback and play.
Oh wait."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Coming from the person who blacklisted me.In post 3817, Tierce wrote:I'm done talking with Benmage. So!
Scum, if Benmage is Town, do us all a favor and end the game already so I don't need to play with someone who calls me "bitch" anymore. Between Benmages and Oversouls, this game's a real joy.
I didnt call u a bitch... You the person might be lovely.
But the playerTierce in this game is a bitch for blacklisting me for quickvoting in lylo.
Tell me, did you blacklist Saki when she quickvoted you?
DO you blacklist everyone who has ever quickvoted in Lylo?
You recognize you played your scum Meta to a T this game.
This is the same shit I've seen from Reck a million times and I hope he's reading in the deadqt.***HEY RECK!!This is where I forgive Tierce postgame when she flips scum."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Where have I been toxic???In post 3816, Tierce wrote:
Mhmm. Sure I have. Who caught Fate? With actual stuff, not with scum's roleblocks?In post 3814, Benmage wrote:
HAHAHAHAHH blacklist me for quickvoting lylo.In post 3810, Tierce wrote:Oh, believe me that I am beyond pissed off if you are Town. But I am past throwing a tantrum. I have better things to do with my life than expect you to be a good player, so.
On the other hand, I get the perfectly legitimate reason for never playing with you again if you're Town, because screw you for quickvoting in LyLo if you're Town~
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p5277640
YOU"VE PLAYED YOUR SCUM META TO A T.
Go fuckurself and cry to someone else, you whiney bitch.
WAHHHH blacklisting for quick voting.
YOUVE DONE SHIT ALL GAME.
FUCK U
(not u the person, you the player in the game BECAUSE IT FCUKING BLOWS)
die bitch
Who didn't quickhammer hito?
Who didn't vote Johhog?
Come talk to me about "doing nothing" in the game, because you've been toxic. My reads have been fine and your high horse is real cute.
After queen Wahmbulance complains SELECTIVELY about me quickvoting in lylo. Got it.
You've lurked this whole game. You've admitted... Oh NOW in lylo to save face you suddenly played a good game... got it."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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***And the game you just linked xenomafia post 1292 isn't the same as you didn't know how many scum remained.
We know exactly how many scum remain."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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What a classic excuse.In post 3822, Tierce wrote:Yeah, fuck off. I'm done. Vote me if you want, I have better ways to spend my night than deal with your bullshit.
Can we lynch this yet?
Its gonna happen, so just do it now."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Go fuckurself.
You want to avoid playing with me. Don't ever play a faraday game again, as they constitute probably 90% of my games these days. I'll be more than happy with you avoiding me."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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^I hope this means Tierce is still blacklisting me... Ihave no interest in playing with such a whiner ever again."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Oh wait, is Matias blacklisted for how he opened the day??
Tierce's logic is so amazingly sound, I lovesssss it!!!!"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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She's lurked and been disconnected the entire game... never seen town tierce like that.In post 3834, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I'm happy you think Tierce is town now.
I'm less thrilled at how willing you were to vote her in LYLO.
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WOAH the sitemust've done a time warp again.
I apologized before Tierce DID!!
YOU ALL SAW THAT *waves hand like a jedi*"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Well atleast I read you town now.
I remember one time I faked a guilty on Faraday. He wasn't very happy. But I ended with a townread on him.
So there's usually a method."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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In post 3843, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Or is it a madness, Benmage. We'll never know.
Anyways bro, don't second guess yourself.
You, me OS, Tierce...
You were right.... It must be Matias, singer, bulb.
How cray cray."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Yes, well... you don't have a choice now.In post 3844, Bulbazak wrote:And I think I've figured it out. I'll wait until Singer posts, but I'm probably going to vote Ben."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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OHHH THIS IS A GEM!!!
Bulb lynches me over the confirmed Matais....
WHere BULB gets to become a DOCTOR!!
WHERE LLD GETS TO LIVE!!
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
LLD!! You get to live to tomorrow!!!!! you can gun singer. We get to win!"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Bulb, wants the game to end today.
The most logical NK is LLD.
It sin't as gemful as I orignally thought because singer is the obvious last partner anyways.
BUTTTTTT LLD gets to lvie nevertheless.
Bulb is the backup doc!
He can't shoot LLD... HE MUST protect LLD!!! anything else is a scum claim.
And bulb is going to try and wine n dine everyone tomorrow that I am scum... or wine n dine them today, but etc"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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LLD has dropped a gagillion towntells.... If LLD is scum, I want him to win.
Is anyone losing sleep with OS being NK'd?
LLD gets to live! Get your party hat!"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Plus LLD wants to lynch Bulb, and Bulb knows this.
I can feel the steam rising off his head.
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You, me, LLD, OS... If LLD is lying, LLD gets to win.In post 3857, Tierce wrote:Benmage, please unvote. The only people who should be voting at this point, if any, are LLD and Matias. You're opening the door to a quickhammer.
You should vote with me."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Come on Tierce... its more fun livin on the edge.
PEDIT: HELLZ YA I DO"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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He must've with the way Singers backup shit worked....In post 3865, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:In post 3862, Bulbazak wrote:
CES had a 1-shot ability, which he used. Since it's already used up, I don't inherit it. Hence why I'm convinced there's a scum doc.In post 3860, Benmage wrote:Bulb, you don't have CES's doc?
Did he just claim scum?"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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He must've with the way Singers backup shit worked....In post 3865, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:In post 3862, Bulbazak wrote:
CES had a 1-shot ability, which he used. Since it's already used up, I don't inherit it. Hence why I'm convinced there's a scum doc.In post 3860, Benmage wrote:Bulb, you don't have CES's doc?
Did he just claim scum?"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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I've never heard of that.In post 3868, Bulbazak wrote:
Where do you get that? If X-shots are already used up, I don't get them.In post 3865, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:In post 3862, Bulbazak wrote:
CES had a 1-shot ability, which he used. Since it's already used up, I don't inherit it. Hence why I'm convinced there's a scum doc.In post 3860, Benmage wrote:Bulb, you don't have CES's doc?
Did he just claim scum?"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Fair enough, neither bulb nor I was both making it to endgame.
LLD, claiming on partner for credability... cray cray.
You 2 totes deserve this.
Singer, you got carried."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Tell me how I am scum again.In post 3882, Bulbazak wrote:You guys are idiots..."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Damn claims! Scum have such advantages in mafia...post 2602
How the hell was 5 scum balanced again?
What power did you have?"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Is your town meta good?In post 3887, singersigner wrote:No you fucking don't you mother fucker. You guys had every opportunity to lynch me four days in a row and didn't because I played to my town as fuck meta. I never once lied about what I was doing or what I knew, except for Nacho, which caused at least three people to town read the shit out of me so you're not taking this away from me, no sir.
Just because you sign up for a game, and exist in it whatever the ending is doesn't mean you did well.
Outside of your claim Shenanigans... I don't remember one memorable point you made.
To close.
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Yes, singer tho.... You played your style of game very well.
Which is not a LEADER style. Therefore you were mainly an after-thought throughout the game.
LLD's gunsmith claim + mad genuine shit, and faking a guilty on a partner... Straight A's.
Matias played full town mode all throughout save the end, which is almost a necessity considering the other option is busing.
The setup... ehhh
DV, OS... MYSELF... MevBulb = a town loss no matter which way you cut it."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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The scum all played very well.
The town helped loss... Hell at one point I self voted with CES and Hito voting me, cause defeat was eminent."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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I didn't mean that as a DIg... 2nd reading it, does read that way... I meant her playstyle as town and or scum is just not the leader-like driver style.In post 3903, Tierce wrote:Benmage, singer, please stop. You're right, Benmage--she's not a leader, but she doesn't need to be. We've seen Towns and scumteams made of leaders only and they are unbearable.
Way to many TvT... Ferei and Bulb.
Ya GG.
TY zor???
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Ya, but had amazing claimsthemselves.In post 3907, Tierce wrote:
We were told in advance. This is a Scummies invitational, after all--we're expected to put on a good show, and the scum were not immune to investigations or to crosskills.In post 3904, Benmage wrote:ZOR 5 SCUM!!!! Da faq?
I don't think I've ever seen a 5 scum in 20 game before... let alone 6 nontown vs 14 town.
Swing mechanics for sure.
Good players on town, scummies.. okay... good players on scum equally so. And scum game is easy they have the inside info.
Zor has the statistics that 20% of Large Themes town win. 20%%%%%%%%% Town win. They also obviously had Day talk..
Come the fuck on.
I don't care about wins or losses, as town because its so far from your individual hands its ridic... But I atleast want to know the game was balanced."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Fair enough.In post 3911, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:depends if Oversoul is a 1 shot vig like we think he is.
I think it's a little town sided, but balanced.
Ok.
Personally, I'd call this one of the worst balanced games I've seen in a while. I felt so way back in D1... and I think it holds true. Lots of town power... Great its bound to die at/die without revealing results/aide scum (if sk's help town, vigs typically help scum)/+scum numbers(sum have way more knowledge of how to manipulate and bend a game)/+scum powerroles and their ability to easily hide amongst all the town power causing tons of wtf/+daytalk.
One of the worst balanced gamed I've seen in a while. But hey thats just my opinion, So to each their own
I mean... to conclude the sheer swingy-ness of the mechanics of this game. I don't know how you can call it balanced... If anything call it a bastard game with all the mechanics going on. Again... just my opinion."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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If anyone knows, out of sheer curiosity, a game on this site which featured a 5 man scum team and only 14 townies??"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Not unlycnhable..and you control 5 votes!! 5 VOTES WITH DAYTALK~!!
Yes swingy-ness... Thats my point. Imagine the SK doulbe shot town before we found out who he was/you found out via RBs/ we lynched the SK. I mean helloooo swingyness
I don't want this to sound SOUR. As I don't ever care about town losses, like I said individually you makeup significantly less of an impact, and there's the site wide LG theme stat of 20% win rate.. so it is what it is.
Mini soap box:
I wanted to make a MD-thread on winrates in general as I think town in some version win 40%, and scum 60% (mini normals I think, maybe in general I forget).. Anyways this is accepted as being acceptable. I'm leaning to it being unacceptable, and that the reverse shoudl be true. 75% of a game should be winning more often than not. How much happier would the site be in general if 75% of the player base in a game statistically won 60% v 40% of the time.. MAKE scum the challenge.. let alone the 20% large theme... I digress"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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His attempt to lure a scum shot, was BRILLIANTIn post 3916, Tierce wrote:Can I mention again how hilarious (and skillful!) Magua's flavor trick was?"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Statistically you could've won with 3.5/D4.In post 3914, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:And we had to lynch 6 townies and the SK to win?"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Isn't there a MD-thread, or some known ideology that says too many roles are bad for town? (im blanking, about to crash)"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Oversoul, you make one solid reads list in the 10th hour of the game where you yourself admit it could be anyone/look at it through a different angle...yet you're gloating????
Let's look at it like this: You were confirmed town after N1, and were endgammed because??? You weren't deemed a threat. My sentiment reflects LLD's."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Okay?In post 3939, Oversoul wrote:
You voted before I had a chance to post the final day, which was going to be a vote on Matias.In post 3929, Benmage wrote:Oversoul, you make one solid reads list in the 10th hour of the game where you yourself admit it could be anyone/look at it through a different angle...yet you're gloating????
Let's look at it like this: You were confirmed town after N1, and were endgammed because??? You weren't deemed a threat. My sentiment reflects LLD's.
We still would've lost.... if not this day, someday, to LLD..."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Lol, so true.In post 3983, zoraster wrote:I don't want to badmouth my player list or anything, but there's kind of a difference between Scummies Winners and Mafia All-Stars.
For what it's worth, I think having lots of strong mafia players is good, but having a lot of strong mafia players who are strong in the same way is bad.
And I've always assumed SK's, like scum can choose if they wish to kill or not."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Also, I really don't think the issue for town was too many All-Stars.In post 3984, BBmolla wrote:Too many carries, not enough support, no farm, gg
This town was no stronger than many popular modded games, like Faradays."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
"If i must blantantly follow somone a player cannot do better than blindly following benmage" - tubby216
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